Now President Biden is expected to visit Israel, Jordan and others tomorrow as we continue to watch the fighting the conflict between Israel and Hamas. US Sexual of State Anthony Blincoln, we know has been there and held hours of talks with Israel ahead of the visit by President Biden. This is a trip that's meant to show us support. It comes at an absolutely fraught time, just ahead potentially of what we expect to be some kind of ground operation by the Israelis in Gaza.

Now President Biden is expected to visit Israel, Jordan and others tomorrow as we continue to watch the fighting the conflict between Israel and Hamas. US Sexual of State Anthony Blincoln, we know has been there and held hours of talks with Israel ahead of the visit by President Biden. This is a trip that's meant to show us support. It comes at an absolutely fraught time, just ahead potentially of what we expect to be some kind of ground operation by the Israelis in Gaza.

Yes, and so we got a chance to speak to somebody who advises the Israeli government and with that in mind, important to ask questions about what they're trying to achieve, the loss of life on both sides here, what happened on October the seventh, and then also what's happened in Gaza since then, important to ask about that and indeed the possibility of getting humanitarian aid in Yeah.

Yes, and so we got a chance to speak to somebody who advises the Israeli government and with that in mind, important to ask questions about what they're trying to achieve, the loss of life on both sides here, what happened on October the seventh, and then also what's happened in Gaza since then, important to ask about that and indeed the possibility of getting humanitarian aid in Yeah.

So we spoke to Mark Regev, the senior advisor to the Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanya, who just at the point that we had some reports out that these southern part of Gaza was also being hit by missiles by fire from Israel. Of course Mark Regev also the former Israeli ambassador to the UK. We began by that Associated Press report of Israeli's air force striking southern Gaza and what Mark Regev thinks about it.

So we spoke to Mark Regev, the senior advisor to the Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanya, who just at the point that we had some reports out that these southern part of Gaza was also being hit by missiles by fire from Israel. Of course Mark Regev also the former Israeli ambassador to the UK. We began by that Associated Press report of Israeli's air force striking southern Gaza and what Mark Regev thinks about it.

So of course we target Hamas. We want to destroy hamasa's military machine and dismantle its political structure in Gaza. That's our goal. And at the same time, in parallel, we want to do what can be done to safeguard the life of the innocent civilian population of the Gaza strip. So it's quite possible we are targeting HAMAS facilities in the south, but we're doing so in a way that we are making every effort possible not to see any collateral damage. In every war, unfortunately, in recent history civilians have been caught up and there have been civilian casualties. We know that, but as a democratic country that abides by the rules of war, we are making a maximum effort to target civilian to target the commas, terrorists and and and safeguard civilians. And that's why we've asked people to vacate the north, where we know there will be very complex and vicious fighting.

So of course we target Hamas. We want to destroy hamasa's military machine and dismantle its political structure in Gaza. That's our goal. And at the same time, in parallel, we want to do what can be done to safeguard the life of the innocent civilian population of the Gaza strip. So it's quite possible we are targeting HAMAS facilities in the south, but we're doing so in a way that we are making every effort possible not to see any collateral damage. In every war, unfortunately, in recent history civilians have been caught up and there have been civilian casualties. We know that, but as a democratic country that abides by the rules of war, we are making a maximum effort to target civilian to target the commas, terrorists and and and safeguard civilians. And that's why we've asked people to vacate the north, where we know there will be very complex and vicious fighting.

We want them out of harm's way.

We want them out of harm's way.

We don't want them caught up in the crossfire between us and come us.

We don't want them caught up in the crossfire between us and come us.

Okay and Joe, you've called for them to move to the south. That's been controversial in itself, and we've seen you and and other.

Okay and Joe, you've called for them to move to the south. That's been controversial in itself, and we've seen you and and other.

Aagets well from that COMMAS is active in the south, we will strike comas.

Aagets well from that COMMAS is active in the south, we will strike comas.

What I should what I should say is many aid groups have suggested that it was going to be very challenging, and they've used more extreme words than that to move people to the south. But having moved to the south, many people in Guars might have thought that they would be safe, but you're suggesting that they are not safe from from becoming as you describe, collateral damage in the south.

What I should what I should say is many aid groups have suggested that it was going to be very challenging, and they've used more extreme words than that to move people to the south. But having moved to the south, many people in Guars might have thought that they would be safe, but you're suggesting that they are not safe from from becoming as you describe, collateral damage in the south.

So i'd stress we've asked them to leave the north because that where we know there is vicious there is terrible fighting ahead of us. We're going to send in ground forces quite possibly, and they will face house to house fighting. KAMAS is built in there in the north, especially in Gaza City, where they have their military infrastructure under civilian neighborhods, their tunnels, their bunkers, their command and control, their arms depots, their rocket launchers, that's all there, and we have to destroy that, and that's why we've asked civilians to vacate in the south.

So i'd stress we've asked them to leave the north because that where we know there is vicious there is terrible fighting ahead of us. We're going to send in ground forces quite possibly, and they will face house to house fighting. KAMAS is built in there in the north, especially in Gaza City, where they have their military infrastructure under civilian neighborhods, their tunnels, their bunkers, their command and control, their arms depots, their rocket launchers, that's all there, and we have to destroy that, and that's why we've asked civilians to vacate in the south.

If there are specific Cramas.

If there are specific Cramas.

Targets that need to be targeted, we will target them. Hamas cannot have immunity anywhere, not in Gaza, not outside Gas. But we are not targeting civilians in the south, and it's most safer for them to be in the south than in the north. Can I guarantee to you that no civilian will be hurt in southern Gaza. I'd like to be able to, but unfortunately the realities of modern war make that impossible. But I can guarantee that we will make a maximum effort to avoid that happening. At the same time, Hamas has a deliberate policy of keeping people in arms way when we ask people to evacuate future So then.

Targets that need to be targeted, we will target them. Hamas cannot have immunity anywhere, not in Gaza, not outside Gas. But we are not targeting civilians in the south, and it's most safer for them to be in the south than in the north. Can I guarantee to you that no civilian will be hurt in southern Gaza. I'd like to be able to, but unfortunately the realities of modern war make that impossible. But I can guarantee that we will make a maximum effort to avoid that happening. At the same time, Hamas has a deliberate policy of keeping people in arms way when we ask people to evacuate future So then.

Why not why not allow the Raa the Rafa crossing to open into Egypt. There seems to be all sides, but blaming each other for that board and not being allowed to open, is there going to be any change? Some some view that there would be a period of time when the Rafa crossing would be open, and that's happened in several days in a row. Is that going to.

Why not why not allow the Raa the Rafa crossing to open into Egypt. There seems to be all sides, but blaming each other for that board and not being allowed to open, is there going to be any change? Some some view that there would be a period of time when the Rafa crossing would be open, and that's happened in several days in a row. Is that going to.

Happen now, Well, it was supposed to happen yesterday.

Happen now, Well, it was supposed to happen yesterday.

We worked with the relevant international partners to make it happen yesterday, and we expected yesterday already there was supposed to be an exod of foreign nationals. Unfortunately Hamas prevented that from happening. They closed their side of the crossing. And this is another example of Hamas doesn't give a hoot about innocent civil Your life not is really and in this case not Palestinian.

We worked with the relevant international partners to make it happen yesterday, and we expected yesterday already there was supposed to be an exod of foreign nationals. Unfortunately Hamas prevented that from happening. They closed their side of the crossing. And this is another example of Hamas doesn't give a hoot about innocent civil Your life not is really and in this case not Palestinian.

Will it be attempted again today? Will you be attempting to open the Raffa crossing again?

Will it be attempted again today? Will you be attempting to open the Raffa crossing again?

We are working with foreign governments to facilitate the exit of civilians through the Rafa crossing. And your questions it should have happened yesterday, must prevented it from happening. They are holding Look, they're holding some two hundred Israelis hostage inside Gaza. They are using Gaza's Palestinian civilians as a human shield for their war machine. And now as of yesterday they started using the foreign nationals also as hostages, refusing to allow them to leave.

We are working with foreign governments to facilitate the exit of civilians through the Rafa crossing. And your questions it should have happened yesterday, must prevented it from happening. They are holding Look, they're holding some two hundred Israelis hostage inside Gaza. They are using Gaza's Palestinian civilians as a human shield for their war machine. And now as of yesterday they started using the foreign nationals also as hostages, refusing to allow them to leave.

That's the truth, Ambassador Ambassadora. According to your public comments, you've been present in meetings recently between Anthony Blincoln and Netanya Who the Israeli Prime minister, what is and his war cabinet thinking now about pursuing harmus. Does Israel need President Biden's approval support? How would you characterize that?

That's the truth, Ambassador Ambassadora. According to your public comments, you've been present in meetings recently between Anthony Blincoln and Netanya Who the Israeli Prime minister, what is and his war cabinet thinking now about pursuing harmus. Does Israel need President Biden's approval support? How would you characterize that?

First of all, worry thankful and appreciative of American support. And American support has been in diplomacy, in their moral clarity, in the way they've described Tramas as an Isis organization. On the Sunday night, President Biden even made a comparison with the Nazis, and he's correct because the attack by Tramash, the massacre of October seventh, was the greatest single act of anti Semitic violence since nineteen forty five, since the terrible years.

First of all, worry thankful and appreciative of American support. And American support has been in diplomacy, in their moral clarity, in the way they've described Tramas as an Isis organization. On the Sunday night, President Biden even made a comparison with the Nazis, and he's correct because the attack by Tramash, the massacre of October seventh, was the greatest single act of anti Semitic violence since nineteen forty five, since the terrible years.

Of the Holocaust.

Of the Holocaust.

And so we're thankful, We're thankful for that verbal support, for that diplomatic support. But also they've given us material support. They are helping replenish our stockpiles of weaponry, and they've of course moved their two aircraft carrier groups to the eastern Mediterranean. I think that's a deterrence to other dangerous actors in the region not to think that this is a time to attack Israel that I think they've been playing a very positive role. And when the president here is arriving tomorrow in Israel, we will welcome him as a friend, as an ally, and we look forward to rolling out the red garbet.

And so we're thankful, We're thankful for that verbal support, for that diplomatic support. But also they've given us material support. They are helping replenish our stockpiles of weaponry, and they've of course moved their two aircraft carrier groups to the eastern Mediterranean. I think that's a deterrence to other dangerous actors in the region not to think that this is a time to attack Israel that I think they've been playing a very positive role. And when the president here is arriving tomorrow in Israel, we will welcome him as a friend, as an ally, and we look forward to rolling out the red garbet.

When you talk about foreign nationals and the UK, the Prime Minister of Vishasinak talked about ten missing UK nationals. Are you saying that foreign nationals are being held hostage in Gaza now? Also if they're not being allowed to cross the Rapha crossing into Egypt? Is that what you're saying.

When you talk about foreign nationals and the UK, the Prime Minister of Vishasinak talked about ten missing UK nationals. Are you saying that foreign nationals are being held hostage in Gaza now? Also if they're not being allowed to cross the Rapha crossing into Egypt? Is that what you're saying.

I'm saying that yesterday people were supposed to leave and Hamas prevented them from doing so. Their exit was coordinated with Israel, with the relevant foreign governments, and Hamas prevented that from happening.

I'm saying that yesterday people were supposed to leave and Hamas prevented them from doing so. Their exit was coordinated with Israel, with the relevant foreign governments, and Hamas prevented that from happening.

I can say that for a fact.

I can say that for a fact.

Is that how does one explain that? What words would you use? I would say that.

Is that how does one explain that? What words would you use? I would say that.

Using foreign nationals as hostages as well?

Using foreign nationals as hostages as well?

What does a long and costly war mean to you? Israel's defense sector, you of Galant saying and telling the US Sector of State Blincoln that Israeli forces are preparing for a long and costly war. How long? What does that mean?

What does a long and costly war mean to you? Israel's defense sector, you of Galant saying and telling the US Sector of State Blincoln that Israeli forces are preparing for a long and costly war. How long? What does that mean?

I think it's important to understand that this is not another round of Israel Kamas fighting. You know, since Kamas took over the Gaza Strip sixteen years ago, we've had numerous rounds of fighting where they shot rockets into Israel and we responded and so forth.

I think it's important to understand that this is not another round of Israel Kamas fighting. You know, since Kamas took over the Gaza Strip sixteen years ago, we've had numerous rounds of fighting where they shot rockets into Israel and we responded and so forth.

That's no longer the case. This is war.

That's no longer the case. This is war.

What they did on October seventh, they're massacre of our people. Oney three hundred Israeli deaths and about two hundred people.

What they did on October seventh, they're massacre of our people. Oney three hundred Israeli deaths and about two hundred people.

Held hostage in Gaza.

Held hostage in Gaza.

This isis type behavior, these atrocities. The status quo that was before October senth is unsustainable. Israelis will not stand for it anymore. We are acting now to change the political realities in the Gaza Strip, and when this is over, there will be a different reality there.

This isis type behavior, these atrocities. The status quo that was before October senth is unsustainable. Israelis will not stand for it anymore. We are acting now to change the political realities in the Gaza Strip, and when this is over, there will be a different reality there.

We didn't want this war.

We didn't want this war.

It was forced upon us, and though we didn't start it, we will finish it. And when we finish it, we will do so on our terms.

It was forced upon us, and though we didn't start it, we will finish it. And when we finish it, we will do so on our terms.

So what is the mood then, if you have been in those meetings between Benjamin Netanyahu and Anthony Blinkett, and you're expecting the US president now tomorrow, the German chance also today, what is the mood in those meetings? Now? Ten days after the her mass attack.

So what is the mood then, if you have been in those meetings between Benjamin Netanyahu and Anthony Blinkett, and you're expecting the US president now tomorrow, the German chance also today, what is the mood in those meetings? Now? Ten days after the her mass attack.

So there's first of all, we're receiving amazing solidarity from friends and allies in North America and in Europe, and Israel is appreciative of that support. And I think there's a determination in Israel to win this. We have no choice. We have to win and win decisively, and we will win, and we might pay our price. As our Defense minister said, this could take This could take time, and many young Israeli soldiers who are going into battle might not come home. I myself have a daughter who's a reserve officer and she was called up and she's in the South, and like hundreds and thousands of Israeli parents, I of course I am concerned. But when speaking to my they are determined to fight to protect their country from these brutal killers. We all saw what they did in the massacre of October seventh. We know what they're capable of. This is a threat that no people on this planet should have to live with, and we are eliminating the threat.

So there's first of all, we're receiving amazing solidarity from friends and allies in North America and in Europe, and Israel is appreciative of that support. And I think there's a determination in Israel to win this. We have no choice. We have to win and win decisively, and we will win, and we might pay our price. As our Defense minister said, this could take This could take time, and many young Israeli soldiers who are going into battle might not come home. I myself have a daughter who's a reserve officer and she was called up and she's in the South, and like hundreds and thousands of Israeli parents, I of course I am concerned. But when speaking to my they are determined to fight to protect their country from these brutal killers. We all saw what they did in the massacre of October seventh. We know what they're capable of. This is a threat that no people on this planet should have to live with, and we are eliminating the threat.

Can I ask you reference October seventh, and of course, and that the loss of life and the tactics used and the indiscriminate nature of the killing Kearley coming as a huge shock to Israel and around the world. But now we're in a situation where more Palestinians have died since then in Gaza. I wonder what that means in Israel.

Can I ask you reference October seventh, and of course, and that the loss of life and the tactics used and the indiscriminate nature of the killing Kearley coming as a huge shock to Israel and around the world. But now we're in a situation where more Palestinians have died since then in Gaza. I wonder what that means in Israel.

So, of course, we don't want to see civilian casualties, and we're making an effort, as I said a moment ago, to keep those as low as are.

So, of course, we don't want to see civilian casualties, and we're making an effort, as I said a moment ago, to keep those as low as are.

Are you making enough effort though, because you say the West supports you, and there's been plenty of calls for support, but also calls for restraint.

Are you making enough effort though, because you say the West supports you, and there's been plenty of calls for support, but also calls for restraint.

So we will act within the rules of war or the recognized international rules of war. I'd remind you if I can use a historic example, when Molossovich was committing war crimes against the people of Kosovo, there was a bombing campaign by NATO against Belgrade. It was a just campaign. It was a struggle to save lives. Innocent Serbs were killed. Now that's a sad fact of war. We don't want to see it. We will act to minimize it. But if you say to me, and I'm not saying you're saying it, but maybe other people are. If you say to me that, because there will be civilian casualties Israel is not entitled to defend itself, to protect itself from this horrific terrorist group who ISIS type behavior was on display for everyone to see.

So we will act within the rules of war or the recognized international rules of war. I'd remind you if I can use a historic example, when Molossovich was committing war crimes against the people of Kosovo, there was a bombing campaign by NATO against Belgrade. It was a just campaign. It was a struggle to save lives. Innocent Serbs were killed. Now that's a sad fact of war. We don't want to see it. We will act to minimize it. But if you say to me, and I'm not saying you're saying it, but maybe other people are. If you say to me that, because there will be civilian casualties Israel is not entitled to defend itself, to protect itself from this horrific terrorist group who ISIS type behavior was on display for everyone to see.

That's not serious.

That's not serious.

Israel has the right to defend ourselves and we will do so within the framework of international law and the international rules of ARMKORNG.

Israel has the right to defend ourselves and we will do so within the framework of international law and the international rules of ARMKORNG.

Yes, international law and the rules of international armed conflict. But you say that you will end this on your terms. What are your terms? What does victory look like? What does Gaza? What does Israel look like? If you want to end this conflict on your own terms.

Yes, international law and the rules of international armed conflict. But you say that you will end this on your terms. What are your terms? What does victory look like? What does Gaza? What does Israel look like? If you want to end this conflict on your own terms.

As you say so, we will destroy Hamasa's military capabilities, and we will dismantle its political structure inside the Gaza strip.

As you say so, we will destroy Hamasa's military capabilities, and we will dismantle its political structure inside the Gaza strip.

And what is left of any cities and towns in Gaza at the end of.

And what is left of any cities and towns in Gaza at the end of.

That well, obviously the Kamas targets will be destroyed, but we are not targeting Gaza's civilian population. I repeat, But if I can use a comparison, I mean the American president and European leaders have made a comparison with ISIS. Yes, when the West, when the coalition, the International Coalition defeated ISIS, ISIS had a few cities.

That well, obviously the Kamas targets will be destroyed, but we are not targeting Gaza's civilian population. I repeat, But if I can use a comparison, I mean the American president and European leaders have made a comparison with ISIS. Yes, when the West, when the coalition, the International Coalition defeated ISIS, ISIS had a few cities.

There was destruction there too.

There was destruction there too.

Sometimes when you are fighting a brutal enemy, that enemy implants itself in a civilian population. We don't want to hurt civilians, but in many ways that is inevitable. We will make a maximum effort to keep that number to a minimum. But once again, we can't allow Hamas to have immunity. We can't allow them to successfully use Gaza civilian population as a human shield for their terror machine.

Sometimes when you are fighting a brutal enemy, that enemy implants itself in a civilian population. We don't want to hurt civilians, but in many ways that is inevitable. We will make a maximum effort to keep that number to a minimum. But once again, we can't allow Hamas to have immunity. We can't allow them to successfully use Gaza civilian population as a human shield for their terror machine.

Anthony Blincn has said that Israel has agreed a plan with the US to enable humanitarian aid to reach civilians in Gaza. I wonder if you have any more details of how that can be done, what that means for water, for medical supplies, and the rest.

Anthony Blincn has said that Israel has agreed a plan with the US to enable humanitarian aid to reach civilians in Gaza. I wonder if you have any more details of how that can be done, what that means for water, for medical supplies, and the rest.

We're working very closely with the Americans on that. We had extensive meetings yesterday with the Secretary.

We're working very closely with the Americans on that. We had extensive meetings yesterday with the Secretary.

How soon can we expect those supplies to be allowed in because we've seen the pictures of the trucks waiting.

How soon can we expect those supplies to be allowed in because we've seen the pictures of the trucks waiting.

From my point of view that we want humanitarian relief for the people of Gaza, but there are questions that need to be answered. Anthony Blincoln said specifically that we have to be able to quoting by memory, but he talked about to make sure that these supplies reach the civilian population of Gaza. And why does that need to be said, Because Caamas are the only people on the ground inside the Gaza strip with weapons and they have the ability to hijack supplies. They have the ability to take it away from the civilian population.

From my point of view that we want humanitarian relief for the people of Gaza, but there are questions that need to be answered. Anthony Blincoln said specifically that we have to be able to quoting by memory, but he talked about to make sure that these supplies reach the civilian population of Gaza. And why does that need to be said, Because Caamas are the only people on the ground inside the Gaza strip with weapons and they have the ability to hijack supplies. They have the ability to take it away from the civilian population.

They have done so in the past.

They have done so in the past.

So does that mean you can't send in any so you won't send it with Is it possible to send in aid then before you are on the ground, before Israel is on the ground.

So does that mean you can't send in any so you won't send it with Is it possible to send in aid then before you are on the ground, before Israel is on the ground.

We believe it's possible, but we have to find safeguards in the mechanisms we use. We don't want fuel for Ramas rockets, we want fuel for generators in hospitals. And I think that's something that all the donors in the international community who want to send aid, they have to be assured that the aid is reaching the people of Gaza and not Ramas's terrorist machine.

We believe it's possible, but we have to find safeguards in the mechanisms we use. We don't want fuel for Ramas rockets, we want fuel for generators in hospitals. And I think that's something that all the donors in the international community who want to send aid, they have to be assured that the aid is reaching the people of Gaza and not Ramas's terrorist machine.

Can an escalation be prevented with Hesperala and Lebanon Leatnia, who has warned not to test Israel in the North, that testing does seem to be taking place.

Can an escalation be prevented with Hesperala and Lebanon Leatnia, who has warned not to test Israel in the North, that testing does seem to be taking place.

Yes, and it's a worrying situation. We have no interest in an escalation in the North. We have no interest in a two front war. But Chrisbela is Kamas's twin. They are both terrorist groups. The Arab League calls Kisbela a terrorist group, and they because they're in the Iranian orbit, they could world see this as a moment of opportunity to attack Israel, and it's dangerous. But I will say the following one. Chrisbela won't take us by surprise like Hamas did. We are on guard, we are looking, and we are ready. If they force a war upon us, we will respond forcibly and decisively. And unfortunately, unfortunately for Lebanon, because chrisbel obviously controls the ground, the Lebanese government is largely irrelevant.

Yes, and it's a worrying situation. We have no interest in an escalation in the North. We have no interest in a two front war. But Chrisbela is Kamas's twin. They are both terrorist groups. The Arab League calls Kisbela a terrorist group, and they because they're in the Iranian orbit, they could world see this as a moment of opportunity to attack Israel, and it's dangerous. But I will say the following one. Chrisbela won't take us by surprise like Hamas did. We are on guard, we are looking, and we are ready. If they force a war upon us, we will respond forcibly and decisively. And unfortunately, unfortunately for Lebanon, because chrisbel obviously controls the ground, the Lebanese government is largely irrelevant.

They have no power to restrain Krisbela.

They have no power to restrain Krisbela.

But I have to be clear such a conflict, we will hit isbel A hard, and Lebanon, unfortunately, in the process, will also base a terrible price.

But I have to be clear such a conflict, we will hit isbel A hard, and Lebanon, unfortunately, in the process, will also base a terrible price.

Can I ask you about the wider geopolitics at play here? Before that the dreadful events of October seventh that were talks between Israel and the Saudis about coming to a new understanding, new relationships. Has all of that process come to an end? There is there room for any of those talks to continue.

Can I ask you about the wider geopolitics at play here? Before that the dreadful events of October seventh that were talks between Israel and the Saudis about coming to a new understanding, new relationships. Has all of that process come to an end? There is there room for any of those talks to continue.

I think yes.

I think yes.

Obviously, while the fighting's going on, that is a touch more difficult. But if we succeed, and I believe we will, in decisively defeating Ramas, that's a blow against the enemies of peace.

Obviously, while the fighting's going on, that is a touch more difficult. But if we succeed, and I believe we will, in decisively defeating Ramas, that's a blow against the enemies of peace.

That's a blow.

That's a blow.

Against the extremists, that's a blow against the Iranian coalition. That's a blow against terrorism, and that I think can create space for more moderate voices.

Against the extremists, that's a blow against the Iranian coalition. That's a blow against terrorism, and that I think can create space for more moderate voices.

And we're speaking to Arab governments.

And we're speaking to Arab governments.

They have no a love for Hamas, they have no affection for Kamas. They know exactly who Hamas is, and I think they would like to see a different reality in Gaza too. They are, of course concerned like many others, about Parestinian civilian life.

They have no a love for Hamas, they have no affection for Kamas. They know exactly who Hamas is, and I think they would like to see a different reality in Gaza too. They are, of course concerned like many others, about Parestinian civilian life.

We are doing much more and.

We are doing much more and.

It's actually I think it's interesting because Israel is perceived as being the enemy of the Palestinians and Hamas is the defender, yes, of the Palestinians, but it's rubbish. We are doing more to safeguard Palestinian life in this conflict than Hamass, which is using the civilians as a human shield, and which is actually preventing them from evacuating areas where we know there's going to be terrible combat. They you know, in Israel and in democratic countries are armed services. Our armed forces are used to protect the civilians in Gaza Hamas flips it. They use the civilians to protect the military.

It's actually I think it's interesting because Israel is perceived as being the enemy of the Palestinians and Hamas is the defender, yes, of the Palestinians, but it's rubbish. We are doing more to safeguard Palestinian life in this conflict than Hamass, which is using the civilians as a human shield, and which is actually preventing them from evacuating areas where we know there's going to be terrible combat. They you know, in Israel and in democratic countries are armed services. Our armed forces are used to protect the civilians in Gaza Hamas flips it. They use the civilians to protect the military.

Mark Gregev, thank you so much for your time this morning on Boomberg Radio. Senior advisor to the Israeli Prime Minist of Benjamin Nettnia, who also formerly Israeli Ambassador to the United Kingdom,

Mark Gregev, thank you so much for your time this morning on Boomberg Radio. Senior advisor to the Israeli Prime Minist of Benjamin Nettnia, who also formerly Israeli Ambassador to the United Kingdom,