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Some people have been taught that success comes from careful planning, learning the ropes, and earning one promotion at a time. But what about the people who seem to skip all that? In "You Can Just Do Things", Cate Hall argues that the so-called “rules” of success aren’t rules at all — they’re productivity guidelines for low-agency people. Hall shows readers how to live with agency and take control of your future

For more, Carol Massar and Tim Stenovec speak with Cate Hall, author of the book “You Can Just Do Things: How High-Agency People Get What They Want Out of Life”