This episode is in partnership with the Australian Government.

In this yarn, I sit down with mother and daughter Karla and Lowanna Grant to talk about what legacy really means in our communities — not just in terms of money, but in culture, stories, opportunity and security. We reflect on the journeys that shaped them, from growing up in Housing Commission and witnessing sacrifice, to working hard to create stability and independence for the next generation. It’s a powerful reminder that generational wealth for First Nations people is deeply connected to identity, resilience and the responsibility to carry knowledge forward.

We also unpack the realities of home ownership, the pressures of cost of living, and the dreams many of our mob hold about creating a safe space to call their own. Karla shares what it meant to buy her first home and the security that brought her young family, while Lowanna reflects on forging her own path — following in her mother’s footsteps while building something uniquely hers. This episode is about perseverance, listening to our Elders, and creating pathways so the next generation can step forward with strength and pride.

Key Themes

06:00 Listening and learning from Elders Karla speaks about being taught to observe and listen as a young girl
15:00 Walking in your parents’ footsteps while making your own mark Lowanna reflects on finding her voice in media
22:30 What generational wealth means for First Nations families culture, language and stories as legacy
29:30 Creating security through home ownership and hard work Karla shares buying her first home
36:00 Cost of living pressures and dreaming of owning a home Lowanna on independence and responsibility
44:00 Advice for the next generation resilience, saving and setting goals

Resources

Living Black (SBS) → https://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/news-series/living-black
Access Granted podcast → https://open.spotify.com/show/37bKl1269TIB5AkDzkF9Fj?si=4eeb46e663d74285

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