Welcome to episode 158 with my good friend Sarah Derry!

Sarah is an experienced Chief Executive Officer Director, Board Advisor, Coach and Speaker. Sarah is a leader who is passionate about shaping high performing cultures, growing business, building talent and making a difference.

Dive into our inspiring conversation as we explore “Heartfelt Leadership: Embracing Indigenous Wisdom and Authenticity in Modern Organisations.” 🌏✨

In this episode we also share invaluable insights on:
Personal growth and deep listening for meaningful change
Building long-term relationships with Indigenous communities
Authentic cultural acknowledgments vs. tokenistic gestures
The power of starting small with resources like “Dark Emu” by Uncle Bruce Pascoe

Listen to episode 158 to learn about heart-led leadership, authenticity, and the importance of mutual learning and mentorship.

Recommendations throughout this episode: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarah-derry-6a8b3725/

Website: www.blackmagicwoman.com.au

Follow us on Instagram - @blackmagicwomanpodcast

The Black Magic Woman Podcast is hosted by Mundanara Bayles and is an uplifting conversational style program featuring mainly Aboriginal guests and explores issues of importance to Aboriginal people and communities.

Mundanara is guided by Aboriginal Terms of Reference and focusses more on who people are rather than on what they do. If you enjoyed this episode, please ‘Subscribe’ on Apple Podcasts or ‘Follow’ on your Spotify app and tell your friends and family about us! If you’d like to contact us, please email, info@blackmagicwoman.com.au

Welcome to episode 158 with my good friend Sarah Derry!
Sarah is an experienced Chief Executive Officer Director, Board Advisor, Coach and Speaker. Sarah is a leader who is passionate about shaping high performing cultures, growing business, building talent and making a difference.
Dive into our inspiring conversation as we explore “Heartfelt Leadership: Embracing Indigenous Wisdom and Authenticity in Modern Organisations.” 🌏✨
In this episode we also share invaluable insights on:
<ul>
<li>Personal growth and deep listening for meaningful change</li>
<li>Building long-term relationships with Indigenous communities</li>
<li>Authentic cultural acknowledgments vs. tokenistic gestures</li>
<li>The power of starting small with resources like “Dark Emu” by Uncle Bruce Pascoe</li>
</ul>
Listen to episode 158 to learn about heart-led leadership, authenticity, and the importance of mutual learning and mentorship.
Recommendations throughout this episode: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarah-derry-6a8b3725/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarah-derry-6a8b3725/</a>
Website: <a href="https://www.blackmagicwoman.com.au">www.blackmagicwoman.com.au</a>
Follow us on Instagram - @blackmagicwomanpodcast
The Black Magic Woman Podcast is hosted by Mundanara Bayles and is an uplifting conversational style program featuring mainly Aboriginal guests and explores issues of importance to Aboriginal people and communities.
Mundanara is guided by Aboriginal Terms of Reference and focusses more on who people are rather than on what they do. If you enjoyed this episode, please ‘Subscribe’ on Apple Podcasts or ‘Follow’ on your Spotify app and tell your friends and family about us! If you’d like to contact us, please email, info@blackmagicwoman.com.au

Hosted by Mundanara Bayles who was born and raised in Redfern (Sydney) Australia and currently lives in Queensland. The Black Magic Woman Podcast is an uplifting conversational style program featuring mainly First Nations people from Australia and around the world sharing their stories about their journey to highlight the diversity amongst First Nations peoples and the resilience of her people. She hopes these stories inspire her listeners and also create a better understanding of what First Nations Peoples culture and history.



Mundanara is guided by Aboriginal Terms of Reference and focusses more on who people are rather than on what they do. Mundanara makes people feel relaxed and comfortable as if they were sitting around the kitchen table just having a yarn. It’s the way First Nations people have been building relationships and getting to know each other for tens of thousands of years. She draws from a long family history in the media industry and has grown up in culturally strong, politically active family who have been at the forefront of the Aboriginal Rights movement since the 1960’s.



Mundanara sees this platform as an opportunity to share her cultural knowledge and insights to her audience in a non confrontational way that brings people along with her to create change for a better Australia. To connect more with Mundanara check out the work she does with her elders at www.theblackcard.com.au.



If you'd like to support the show by making a financial contribution, visit https://www.theblackcard.com.au./ Any help is appreciated and goes a long way. I encourage to get behind any First Nations media, contribute, share and be apart of positive change that Australia needs.

Hosted by Mundanara Bayles who was born and raised in Redfern (Sydney) Australia and currently lives in Queensland. The Black Magic Woman Podcast is an uplifting conversational style program featuring mainly First Nations people from Australia and around the world sharing their stories about their journey to highlight the diversity amongst First Nations peoples and the resilience of her people. She hopes these stories inspire her listeners and also create a better understanding of what First Nations Peoples culture and history.
 
Mundanara is guided by Aboriginal Terms of Reference and focusses more on who people are rather than on what they do. Mundanara makes people feel relaxed and comfortable as if they were sitting around the kitchen table just having a yarn. It’s the way First Nations people have been building relationships and getting to know each other for tens of thousands of years. She draws from a long family history in the media industry and has grown up in culturally strong, politically active family who have been at the forefront of the Aboriginal Rights movement since the 1960’s.
 
Mundanara sees this platform as an opportunity to share her cultural knowledge and insights to her audience in a non confrontational way that brings people along with her to create change for a better Australia. To connect more with Mundanara check out the work she does with her elders at www.theblackcard.com.au.
 
If you'd like to support the show by making a financial contribution, visit https://www.theblackcard.com.au./ Any help is appreciated and goes a long way. I encourage to get behind any First Nations media, contribute, share and be apart of positive change that Australia needs.

Black Magic Woman with Mundanara Bayles

Hosted by Mundanara Bayles who was born and raised in Redfern (Sydney) Australia and currently lives in Queensland. The Black Magic Woman Podcast is an uplifting conversational style program featuring mainly First Nations people from Australia and around the world sharing their stories about their journey to highlight the diversity amongst First Nations peoples and the resilience of her people. She hopes these stories inspire her listeners and also create a better understanding of what First Nations Peoples culture and history.
 
Mundanara is guided by Aboriginal Terms of Reference and focusses more on who people are rather than on what they do. Mundanara makes people feel relaxed and comfortable as if they were sitting around the kitchen table just having a yarn. It’s the way First Nations people have been building relationships and getting to know each other for tens of thousands of years. She draws from a long family history in the media industry and has grown up in culturally strong, politically active family who have been at the forefront of the Aboriginal Rights movement since the 1960’s.
 
Mundanara sees this platform as an opportunity to share her cultural knowledge and insights to her audience in a non confrontational way that brings people along with her to create change for a better Australia. To connect more with Mundanara check out the work she does with her elders at www.theblackcard.com.au.
 
If you'd like to support the show by making a financial contribution, visit https://www.theblackcard.com.au./ Any help is appreciated and goes a long way. I encourage to get behind any First Nations media, contribute, share and be apart of positive change that Australia needs.

Black Magic Woman

Heartfelt Leadership: Embracing Indigenous Wisdom and Authenticity in Modern Organisations

This episode is proudly brought to you by ANZ. A new series of conversations with different mob around the country to yarn about, meaningful career opportunities within ANZ, building the capacity of Indigenous businesses and organisations, and helping individuals in the broader community to achieve financial wellbeing and resilience. If you’d like to know more about how ANZ can help improve your financial wellbeing, or help you start, run or grow your business, visit anz.com or call 13 13 14.  

Welcome to the next instalment of the ANZ Partnership series! In this inspiring yarn, our host Mundanara Bales sits down with Cameron Bunker, Managing Director of MIB Projects, to explore his remarkable personal and professional journey in business. 

We delve into Cameron’s early life in Tasmania, his studies in environmental science, and the eclectic mix of jobs that led him to a fateful motorcycle trip to the Pilbara. 

A truly fascinating and inspiring story, particularly for non-Indigenous people in business, looking to engage and do business with First Nations peoples. 

Recommendations throughout this episode: 

Indigenous small business banking services: https://www.anz.com.au/business/indigenous-banking/

https://mibprojects.com/

Call ANZ’s dedicated Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander customer support line on 1800 037 366 https://www.anz.com.au/support/contact-us/customer-support-line/ 

Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Opportunities https://www.anz.com.au/careers/programs/aboriginal-and-torres-strait-islander-opportunities/ 

For general enquiries visit anz.com or call 13 13 14 

When we reference ANZ in this episode, we are referring to Australia and New Zealand Banking Group operating in Australia and New Zealand. 

Given the nature of this podcast, all comments are general in nature and do not take into account the listeners’ financial circumstances, goals or objectives. Please think about what is right for you and seek independent advice. 

Website: www.blackmagicwoman.com.au 

Follow us on Instagram - @blackmagicwomanpodcast 

The Black Magic Woman Podcast is hosted by Mundanara Bayles and is an uplifting conversational style program featuring mainly Aboriginal guests and explores issues of importance to Aboriginal people and communities. Mundanara is guided by Aboriginal Terms of Reference and focusses more on who people are rather than on what they do. 

If you enjoyed this episode, please ‘Subscribe’ on Apple Podcasts or ‘Follow’ on your Spotify app and tell your friends and family about us! If you’d like to contact us, please email, info@blackmagicwoman.com.au 

This episode is proudly brought to you by ANZ. A new series of conversations with different mob around the country to yarn about, meaningful career opportunities within ANZ, building the capacity of Indigenous businesses and organisations, and helping individuals in the broader community to achieve financial wellbeing and resilience. If you’d like to know more about how ANZ can help improve your financial wellbeing, or help you start, run or grow your business, visit anz.com or call 13 13 14.  
Welcome to the next instalment of the ANZ Partnership series! In this inspiring yarn, our host Mundanara Bales sits down with Cameron Bunker, Managing Director of MIB Projects, to explore his remarkable personal and professional journey in business. 
We delve into Cameron’s early life in Tasmania, his studies in environmental science, and the eclectic mix of jobs that led him to a fateful motorcycle trip to the Pilbara. 
A truly fascinating and inspiring story, particularly for non-Indigenous people in business, looking to engage and do business with First Nations peoples. 
Recommendations throughout this episode: 
Indigenous small business banking services: <a href="https://www.anz.com.au/business/indigenous-banking/">https://www.anz.com.au/business/indigenous-banking/</a> 
https://mibprojects.com/
Call ANZ’s dedicated Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander customer support line on 1800 037 366 https://www.anz.com.au/support/contact-us/customer-support-line/ 
Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Opportunities https://www.anz.com.au/careers/programs/aboriginal-and-torres-strait-islander-opportunities/ 
For general enquiries visit anz.com or call 13 13 14 
When we reference ANZ in this episode, we are referring to Australia and New Zealand Banking Group operating in Australia and New Zealand. 
Given the nature of this podcast, all comments are general in nature and do not take into account the listeners’ financial circumstances, goals or objectives. Please think about what is right for you and seek independent advice. 
Website: www.blackmagicwoman.com.au 
Follow us on Instagram - @blackmagicwomanpodcast 
The Black Magic Woman Podcast is hosted by Mundanara Bayles and is an uplifting conversational style program featuring mainly Aboriginal guests and explores issues of importance to Aboriginal people and communities. Mundanara is guided by Aboriginal Terms of Reference and focusses more on who people are rather than on what they do. 
If you enjoyed this episode, please ‘Subscribe’ on Apple Podcasts or ‘Follow’ on your Spotify app and tell your friends and family about us! If you’d like to contact us, please email, info@blackmagicwoman.com.au

Leading the Way: A Vision for Workforce Empowerment in the Pilbara

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Join us this week as my deadly tidda Ginny Jones (Unapologetically Blak & Ginnys Girl Gang) steps in on the mic as I recover from my operation.

Recorded live from the Supply Nation Connect trade show, Ginny captures a variety of powerful stories from trailblazing Indigenous business owners. Hear from:

🔸 Uncle Kim Collard, National Naidoc Elder of the Year
🔸 Jasmine Newman from Killara Services
🔸 Steve Ella, the visionary behind a community-driven coffee company, Zipella
🔸 Shaun Edwards, founder of Wild Barra, bringing Aboriginal culture to fashion
🔸 BJ Wehrman of Fast Scaff, championing growth and family legacy

From eco-friendly fragrances to a thriving cleaning empire, these leaders are making waves and paving the way for future generations. 🌊💼

Tune in to celebrate their journeys, challenges, and incredible successes. Let’s honour and support the flourishing of over 5,000 Aboriginal businesses. 🌱🏅

Listen to episode 157 now and be inspired! 

Recommendations throughout this episode:  https://supplynation.org.au/

Website: www.blackmagicwoman.com.au

Follow us on Instagram - @blackmagicwomanpodcast T

he Black Magic Woman Podcast is hosted by Mundanara Bayles and is an uplifting conversational style program featuring mainly Aboriginal guests and explores issues of importance to Aboriginal people and communities.  

Mundanara is guided by Aboriginal Terms of Reference and focusses more on who people are rather than on what they do. If you enjoyed this episode, please ‘Subscribe’ on Apple Podcasts or ‘Follow’ on your Spotify app and tell your friends and family about us! If you’d like to contact us, please email, info@blackmagicwoman.com.au

Join us this week as my deadly tidda Ginny Jones (Unapologetically Blak &amp; Ginnys Girl Gang) steps in on the mic as I recover from my operation.
Recorded live from the Supply Nation Connect trade show, Ginny captures a variety of powerful stories from trailblazing Indigenous business owners. Hear from:
🔸 Uncle Kim Collard, National Naidoc Elder of the Year 🔸 Jasmine Newman from Killara Services 🔸 Steve Ella, the visionary behind a community-driven coffee company, Zipella 🔸 Shaun Edwards, founder of Wild Barra, bringing Aboriginal culture to fashion 🔸 BJ Wehrman of Fast Scaff, championing growth and family legacy
From eco-friendly fragrances to a thriving cleaning empire, these leaders are making waves and paving the way for future generations. 🌊💼
Tune in to celebrate their journeys, challenges, and incredible successes. Let’s honour and support the flourishing of over 5,000 Aboriginal businesses. 🌱🏅
Listen to episode 157 now and be inspired! 
Recommendations throughout this episode:  <a href="https://supplynation.org.au/">https://supplynation.org.au/</a>
Website: <a href="https://www.blackmagicwoman.com.au">www.blackmagicwoman.com.au</a>
Follow us on Instagram - @blackmagicwomanpodcast T
he Black Magic Woman Podcast is hosted by Mundanara Bayles and is an uplifting conversational style program featuring mainly Aboriginal guests and explores issues of importance to Aboriginal people and communities.  
Mundanara is guided by Aboriginal Terms of Reference and focusses more on who people are rather than on what they do. If you enjoyed this episode, please ‘Subscribe’ on Apple Podcasts or ‘Follow’ on your Spotify app and tell your friends and family about us! If you’d like to contact us, please email, info@blackmagicwoman.com.au

Empowering Voices: Celebrating Indigenous Entrepreneurship at Supply Nation Connect

🌟 "Emily Wurramara is a musical artist who can't be contained in any one genre" - SBS & NITV Living Black with Karla Grant 🌟

In this week’s episode I yarn with Emily Wurramara!!!

In case you didn’t already know, Emily is a phenomenal Warnindhilyagwa woman, singer, songwriter, producer, and author. Emily opens up about her 14-year career, the release of her second album “Nara,” (out now!) and the advocacy for safe spaces for women in the music industry. 🎶

From overcoming racism, misogyny, and homophobia to balancing motherhood and career, Emily’s story is one of resilience and authenticity. After losing her home, she found a new appreciation for life’s small moments, which beautifully inspired her latest album. 🌺

Tune in to hear about the healing power of music, the importance of community, and Emily’s reflections on identity.

Tickets for Emily Wurramara's national album tour, including a newly announced appearance at Queenscliff Music Festival are available for purchase HERE

Listen now and connect with Emily’s music on all platforms! Don’t miss out! 🎧

Recommendations throughout this episode: 

Stream 'Nara' - https://snd.click/nara
Watch 'STFAFM' ft. Arringarri (Official Music Video) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hI4kovLxjw

Website: www.blackmagicwoman.com.au

Follow us on Instagram - @blackmagicwomanpodcast

The Black Magic Woman Podcast is hosted by Mundanara Bayles and is an uplifting conversational style program featuring mainly Aboriginal guests and explores issues of importance to Aboriginal people and communities.  Mundanara is guided by Aboriginal Terms of Reference and focusses more on who people are rather than on what they do.

If you enjoyed this episode, please ‘Subscribe’ on Apple Podcasts or ‘Follow’ on your Spotify app and tell your friends and family about us! If you’d like to contact us, please email, info@blackmagicwoman.com.au

🌟 "Emily Wurramara is a musical artist who can't be contained in any one genre" - SBS &amp; NITV Living Black with Karla Grant 🌟
In this week’s episode I yarn with Emily Wurramara!!!
In case you didn’t already know, Emily is a phenomenal Warnindhilyagwa woman, singer, songwriter, producer, and author. Emily opens up about her 14-year career, the release of her second album “Nara,” (out now!) and the advocacy for safe spaces for women in the music industry. 🎶
From overcoming racism, misogyny, and homophobia to balancing motherhood and career, Emily’s story is one of resilience and authenticity. After losing her home, she found a new appreciation for life’s small moments, which beautifully inspired her latest album. 🌺
Tune in to hear about the healing power of music, the importance of community, and Emily’s reflections on identity.
Tickets for Emily Wurramara's national album tour, including a newly announced appearance at Queenscliff Music Festival are available for purchase <a href="https://linktr.ee/EmilyWurramaragigs">HERE</a> 
Listen now and connect with Emily’s music on all platforms! Don’t miss out! 🎧
Recommendations throughout this episode: 
Stream 'Nara' - <a href="https://snd.click/nara">https://snd.click/nara</a> Watch 'STFAFM' ft. Arringarri (Official Music Video) - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hI4kovLxjw">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hI4kovLxjw</a>
Website: www.blackmagicwoman.com.au
Follow us on Instagram - @blackmagicwomanpodcast
The Black Magic Woman Podcast is hosted by Mundanara Bayles and is an uplifting conversational style program featuring mainly Aboriginal guests and explores issues of importance to Aboriginal people and communities.  Mundanara is guided by Aboriginal Terms of Reference and focusses more on who people are rather than on what they do.
If you enjoyed this episode, please ‘Subscribe’ on Apple Podcasts or ‘Follow’ on your Spotify app and tell your friends and family about us! If you’d like to contact us, please email, info@blackmagicwoman.com.au

Heartfelt Leadership: Embracing Indigenous Wisdom and Authenticity in Modern Organisations

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