Everyone seems to have an opinion about the "right" way to work.

Get a secure job.
Start a business.
Build a side hustle.
Work remotely.
Be your own boss.

But once you strip away the Instagram reels and LinkedIn success stories... which path actually leads to more freedom, more money and less stress?

In this episode of Biz, Lisa Lie and Em Vernem unpack the biggest myths about modern work with with a peek behind the curtain to see how Australians on either side of the ledger feel about employment, freelancing and self-employment.

Together, they explore the trade-offs that rarely make it into the conversation, from flexibility and financial security to purpose, pressure and everything in between.

Whether you're climbing the corporate ladder, thinking about starting a side hustle or wondering if self-employment is really worth it, this episode will help you think more clearly about the career that's right for you.

In this episode you'll learn:
Why social media has distorted the way we think about work.
The biggest myths about being your own boss.
What employees secretly envy about sole traders... and vice versa.
Whether flexibility really leads to greater happiness.
The hidden costs and hidden benefits of working for yourself.
Practical questions to ask before making your next career move.

If you're standing at a career crossroads, this episode is the reality check you've been looking for.

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Support independent women's media.
Got a work life dilemma? Send us all the questions you definitely can't ask your boss for our Biz Inbox episodes - send us a voice note or email us at podcast@mamamia.com.au. You can remain anon! 

HOSTS: Lisa Lie and Em Vernem

EXECUTIVE PRODUCER: Courtney Ammenhauser

SENIOR PRODUCER: Thom Lion
VIDEO PRODUCER: Marlena Cacciotti

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Everyone seems to have an opinion about the "right" way to work.
Get a secure job. Start a business. Build a side hustle. Work remotely. Be your own boss.
But once you strip away the Instagram reels and LinkedIn success stories... which path actually leads to more freedom, more money and less stress?
In this episode of Biz, Lisa Lie and Em Vernem unpack the biggest myths about modern work with with a peek behind the curtain to see how Australians on either side of the ledger feel about employment, freelancing and self-employment.
Together, they explore the trade-offs that rarely make it into the conversation, from flexibility and financial security to purpose, pressure and everything in between.
Whether you're climbing the corporate ladder, thinking about starting a side hustle or wondering if self-employment is really worth it, this episode will help you think more clearly about the career that's right for you.
In this episode you'll learn:
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<li data-section-id="1qp2lw1" data-start="2060" data-end="2125">Practical questions to ask before making your next career move.</li>
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If you're standing at a career crossroads, this episode is the reality check you've been looking for.
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EXECUTIVE PRODUCER: Courtney Ammenhauser
SENIOR PRODUCER: Thom Lion VIDEO PRODUCER: Marlena Cacciotti
Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

BIZ is a podcast about work and how to make it work for you.

This season, we're promising new wisdom, fresh energy, and zero fluff. Co-hosts Em Vernem (ambitious but efficient) and Lisa Lie (founder of Learna) bring real talk, real hacks, and real experience. No vague inspo, no recycled advice—just smart, straight-up strategies that actually work. Because work is hard enough without having to figure it all out yourself.

Because work is hard enough without having to figure it all out yourself.

BIZ is a podcast about work and how to make it work for you.
This season, we're promising new wisdom, fresh energy, and zero fluff. Co-hosts Em Vernem (ambitious but efficient) and Lisa Lie (founder of Learna) bring real talk, real hacks, and real experience. No vague inspo, no recycled advice&mdash;just smart, straight-up strategies that actually work. Because work is hard enough without having to figure it all out yourself.
Because work is hard enough without having to figure it all out yourself.

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Employees vs Sole Traders: Who's Actually Winning?

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