You know that feeling when someone joins a project and you instantly relax?

And then there are the people who somehow create more meetings, more emails, more confusion and more work for everyone around them.

In this episode, Em and Lisa unpack the small workplace habits that make people easy to work with, and the ones that quietly make things harder.

They share practical ways to reduce friction, improve collaboration and become the colleague everyone wants on their team.

Plus, Lisa shares a simple meeting framework that could save you hours every week. If you've ever wondered why some people seem to make work feel effortless, this episode is for you.

Our BIZ hosts are Lisa Lie - a former Head of People & Culture and Organisational Coach - and Mamamia’s Em Vernem.

Book recommendation: The Trusted Advisor by Charles Green 

And if you want some fast skills fromLearna:
Check out 'Build trust fast' in Learna.
Click the link below on mobile to get into it:
https://www.learna-app.com?id=l-aSenXj6878

Or check out 'Naming your value at work' in Learna.
Click the link below on mobile to get into it:
https://www.learna-app.com?id=l-lSlExM4482 

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Got a work life dilemma? Send us all the questions you definitely can't ask your boss for our Biz Inbox episodes - send us a voice note or email us at podcast@mamamia.com.au. You can remain anon! 

HOSTS: Lisa Lie and Em Vernem

EXECUTIVE PRODUCER: Courtney Ammenhauser

SENIOR PRODUCER: Thom Lion
VIDEO PRODUCER: Marlena Cacciotti

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

You know that feeling when someone joins a project and you instantly relax?
And then there are the people who somehow create more meetings, more emails, more confusion and more work for everyone around them.
In this episode, Em and Lisa unpack the small workplace habits that make people easy to work with, and the ones that quietly make things harder.
They share practical ways to reduce friction, improve collaboration and become the colleague everyone wants on their team.
Plus, Lisa shares a simple meeting framework that could save you hours every week.&nbsp;If you've ever wondered why some people seem to make work feel effortless, this episode is for you.
Our BIZ hosts are&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisa-lie-42b705a1/?originalSubdomain=au">Lisa Lie</a> - a former Head of People &amp; Culture and Organisational Coach - and Mamamia&rsquo;s <a href="https://www.instagram.com/emilyvernem/?hl=en">Em Vernem</a>.
Book recommendation:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.booktopia.com.au/the-trusted-advisor-charles-green/book/9781982157104.html?source=pla&amp;gad_source=1&amp;gad_campaignid=22225225579&amp;gbraid=0AAAAA-Ia9hPQxvzl-lQkc5Qat5vP_5vta&amp;gclid=CjwKCAjw5ZXQBhBdEiwAI5XVWaZaaNEqRdQ2xMrg4zNOOKITKi_KZGJRERAq0UdMu-7ybHkVz5joWhoCO2kQAvD_BwE">The Trusted Advisor by Charles Green </a> And if you want some fast skills from <a href="https://www.learna-app.com">Learna</a>: Check out 'Build trust fast' in Learna. Click the link below on mobile to get into it: <a href="https://www.learna-app.com?id=l-aSenXj6878">https://www.learna-app.com?id=l-aSenXj6878</a> Or check out 'Naming your value at work' in Learna. Click the link below on mobile to get into it: <a href="https://www.learna-app.com?id=l-lSlExM4482">https://www.learna-app.com?id=l-lSlExM4482</a>&nbsp; <a href="https://www.instagram.com/reel/DKymlmzzCYg/?igsh=aXR6ZGN4emQ4bmdk"> </a><a href="https://mamamia.au/3Eli0BR">Sign up to the BIZ newsletter here</a><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/biz/ep-1-pay-rise"> </a><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/biz/ep-1-pay-rise"> </a>THE END BITS <a href="https://mamamia.com.au/subscribe/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=quicky&amp;utm_content=mm-birthday&amp;code=TQBIRTHDAY">Support independent women's media</a>. Got a work life dilemma? Send us all the questions you definitely can't ask your boss for our Biz Inbox episodes -<a href="https://help.mamamia.com.au/en-US/send-a-podcast-voice-note-467960"> send us a voice note</a> or email us at podcast@mamamia.com.au. You can remain anon!&nbsp;
HOSTS:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/lisa.lie_learna/?hl=en">Lisa Lie</a> and<a href="https://www.instagram.com/emilyvernem/?hl=en"> Em Vernem</a>
EXECUTIVE PRODUCER: Courtney Ammenhauser
SENIOR PRODUCER: Thom Lion VIDEO PRODUCER: Marlena Cacciotti
Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

BIZ is a podcast about work and how to make it work for you.

This season, we're promising new wisdom, fresh energy, and zero fluff. Co-hosts Em Vernem (ambitious but efficient) and Lisa Lie (founder of Learna) bring real talk, real hacks, and real experience. No vague inspo, no recycled advice—just smart, straight-up strategies that actually work. Because work is hard enough without having to figure it all out yourself.

Because work is hard enough without having to figure it all out yourself.

BIZ is a podcast about work and how to make it work for you.
This season, we're promising new wisdom, fresh energy, and zero fluff. Co-hosts Em Vernem (ambitious but efficient) and Lisa Lie (founder of Learna) bring real talk, real hacks, and real experience. No vague inspo, no recycled advice&mdash;just smart, straight-up strategies that actually work. Because work is hard enough without having to figure it all out yourself.
Because work is hard enough without having to figure it all out yourself.

Biz 

People Don't Remember How Hard You Worked. They Remember This Instead

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