We're constantly told to earn more, save more and somehow become better at money. But what if feeling financially secure isn't just about the numbers?

In this episode of Biz, Lisa Lie and Em Vernam sit down with financial educator Jess Brady to unpack the emotional side of money, and how the way we think about it can shape the choices we make.

Jess explains what your "money monster" is, and how to stop it quietly sabotaging your financial goals.

We also get practical: how to automate your money so you can stop wasting time online banking, what a "fruit tree" goal is and why having one can change the way you think about your financial future.

In this episode you'll learn
How childhood experiences around money can create "money monsters" which subconsciously sabotage your relationship with money
How to eliminate those emotional barriers to create financial freedom
How to automate your finances and stop constantly checking your bank account
What a "fruit tree" goal is and why you need one

THE END BITS

READ OR LISTEN to Jessica's Book "Get Growing: A No-Nonsense Guide to Cultivating Wealth and Financial Freedom"

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HOSTS: Lisa Lie and Em Vernem

GUEST: Jessica Brady - Money Educator 

EXECUTIVE PRODUCER: Courtney Ammenhauser

SENIOR PRODUCER: Thom Lion
VIDEO PRODUCER: Marlena Cacciotti

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

We're constantly told to earn more, save more and somehow become better at money. But what if feeling financially secure isn't just about the numbers?
In this episode of Biz, Lisa Lie and Em Vernam sit down with financial educator Jess Brady to unpack the emotional side of money, and how the way we think about it can shape the choices we make.
Jess explains what your "money monster" is, and how to stop it quietly sabotaging your financial goals.
We also get practical: how to automate your money so you can stop wasting time online banking, what a "fruit tree" goal is and why having one can change the way you think about your financial future.
In this episode you'll learn
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THE END BITS
READ OR LISTEN to Jessica's Book <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Get-Growing-No-Nonsense-Cultivating-Freedom/dp/1394352662">"Get Growing: A No-Nonsense Guide to Cultivating Wealth and Financial Freedom"</a>
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HOSTS:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/lisa.lie_learna/?hl=en">Lisa Lie</a> and<a href="https://www.instagram.com/emilyvernem/?hl=en"> Em Vernem</a>
GUEST: <a href="https://jessicabrady.com.au/">Jessica Brady</a> - Money Educator&nbsp;
EXECUTIVE PRODUCER: Courtney Ammenhauser
SENIOR PRODUCER: Thom Lion VIDEO PRODUCER: Marlena Cacciotti
Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

BIZ is a podcast about work and how to make it work for you.

This season, we're promising new wisdom, fresh energy, and zero fluff. Co-hosts Em Vernem (ambitious but efficient) and Lisa Lie (founder of Learna) bring real talk, real hacks, and real experience. No vague inspo, no recycled advice—just smart, straight-up strategies that actually work. Because work is hard enough without having to figure it all out yourself.

Because work is hard enough without having to figure it all out yourself.

BIZ is a podcast about work and how to make it work for you.
This season, we're promising new wisdom, fresh energy, and zero fluff. Co-hosts Em Vernem (ambitious but efficient) and Lisa Lie (founder of Learna) bring real talk, real hacks, and real experience. No vague inspo, no recycled advice&mdash;just smart, straight-up strategies that actually work. Because work is hard enough without having to figure it all out yourself.
Because work is hard enough without having to figure it all out yourself.

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How Much Money Do You Actually Need To Feel Free?

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