Are you, or someone you work with, a perfectionist?

If you have perfectionist tendencies, it can be frustrating to work alongside people who don't because you feel like they don't care enough about the work. And if you don't identify as a perfectionist but have to work with someone who is? Well, it can be equally challenging because things can be overworked, delayed, or shared way too late for fear of things not being 'good enough'.

In this episode, Em and Lisa unpack how to work with perfectionists, how to manage your own perfectionist traits, and how to give feedback to people who might not be the best at receiving it. 

Plus, Lisa shares another one of her go-to frameworks that can help you let go of 'perfect' and move forward faster. 

Our BIZ hosts are Lisa Lie - a former Head of People & Culture and Organisational Coach - and Mamamia’s Em Vernem.

Book recommendation: The Trusted Advisor by Charles Green 

And if you want some fast skills fromLearna:
Check out 'Build trust fast' in Learna.
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Or check out 'Naming your value at work' in Learna.
Click the link below on mobile to get into it:
https://www.learna-app.com?id=l-lSlExM4482 

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HOSTS: Lisa Lie and Em Vernem

EXECUTIVE PRODUCER: Courtney Ammenhauser

SENIOR PRODUCER: Thom Lion
VIDEO PRODUCER: Marlena Cacciotti

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Are you, or someone you work with, a perfectionist?
If you have perfectionist tendencies, it can be frustrating to work alongside people who don't because you feel like they don't care enough about the work. And if you don't identify as a perfectionist but have to work with someone who is? Well, it can be equally challenging because things can be overworked, delayed, or shared way too late for fear of things not being 'good enough'.
In this episode, Em and Lisa unpack how to work with perfectionists, how to manage your own perfectionist traits, and how to give feedback to people who might not be the best at receiving it.&nbsp;
Plus, Lisa shares another one of her go-to frameworks that can help you let go of 'perfect' and move forward faster.&nbsp;
Our BIZ hosts are&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisa-lie-42b705a1/?originalSubdomain=au">Lisa Lie</a> - a former Head of People &amp; Culture and Organisational Coach - and Mamamia&rsquo;s <a href="https://www.instagram.com/emilyvernem/?hl=en">Em Vernem</a>.
Book recommendation:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.booktopia.com.au/the-trusted-advisor-charles-green/book/9781982157104.html?source=pla&amp;gad_source=1&amp;gad_campaignid=22225225579&amp;gbraid=0AAAAA-Ia9hPQxvzl-lQkc5Qat5vP_5vta&amp;gclid=CjwKCAjw5ZXQBhBdEiwAI5XVWaZaaNEqRdQ2xMrg4zNOOKITKi_KZGJRERAq0UdMu-7ybHkVz5joWhoCO2kQAvD_BwE">The Trusted Advisor by Charles Green </a> And if you want some fast skills from <a href="https://www.learna-app.com">Learna</a>: Check out 'Build trust fast' in Learna. Click the link below on mobile to get into it: <a href="https://www.learna-app.com?id=l-aSenXj6878">https://www.learna-app.com?id=l-aSenXj6878</a> Or check out 'Naming your value at work' in Learna. Click the link below on mobile to get into it: <a href="https://www.learna-app.com?id=l-lSlExM4482">https://www.learna-app.com?id=l-lSlExM4482</a>&nbsp; <a href="https://www.instagram.com/reel/DKymlmzzCYg/?igsh=aXR6ZGN4emQ4bmdk"> </a><a href="https://mamamia.au/3Eli0BR">Sign up to the BIZ newsletter here</a><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/biz/ep-1-pay-rise"> </a><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/biz/ep-1-pay-rise"> </a>THE END BITS <a href="https://mamamia.com.au/subscribe/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=quicky&amp;utm_content=mm-birthday&amp;code=TQBIRTHDAY">Support independent women's media</a>. Got a work life dilemma? Send us all the questions you definitely can't ask your boss for our Biz Inbox episodes -<a href="https://help.mamamia.com.au/en-US/send-a-podcast-voice-note-467960"> send us a voice note</a> or email us at podcast@mamamia.com.au. You can remain anon!&nbsp;
HOSTS:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/lisa.lie_learna/?hl=en">Lisa Lie</a> and<a href="https://www.instagram.com/emilyvernem/?hl=en"> Em Vernem</a>
EXECUTIVE PRODUCER: Courtney Ammenhauser
SENIOR PRODUCER: Thom Lion VIDEO PRODUCER: Marlena Cacciotti
Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

BIZ is a podcast about work and how to make it work for you.

This season, we're promising new wisdom, fresh energy, and zero fluff. Co-hosts Em Vernem (ambitious but efficient) and Lisa Lie (founder of Learna) bring real talk, real hacks, and real experience. No vague inspo, no recycled advice—just smart, straight-up strategies that actually work. Because work is hard enough without having to figure it all out yourself.

Because work is hard enough without having to figure it all out yourself.

BIZ is a podcast about work and how to make it work for you.
This season, we're promising new wisdom, fresh energy, and zero fluff. Co-hosts Em Vernem (ambitious but efficient) and Lisa Lie (founder of Learna) bring real talk, real hacks, and real experience. No vague inspo, no recycled advice&mdash;just smart, straight-up strategies that actually work. Because work is hard enough without having to figure it all out yourself.
Because work is hard enough without having to figure it all out yourself.

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How To Work With Perfectionists (Even If You Are One)

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