The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. You're listening to Big Facts with Big bank and DJ Scream. You know who it is. DJ Spream my dog Big Banker Shious. Time for another episode of that Big Facts. We've got a special guests up in the building. Our dog money Man is here on Big Facts. What's up? What's up? Bro? What's happening. I'm a fan of the show. Hey, we heard you give us a shout out. We already give us a shout out of one of the records. Man, I'm appreciate that ship. Yeah, Joe, I appreciate that. Man. We was asking everybody like who didn't want to see on Big Facts, and by faring on a lot like or your fans came from everywhere. We want money Man, while y'all want sunk with money Man, money Man, money Man. Yeah, they're roight with me not yeah. Yeah. But it was just I think he was gonna road us some ship and you bold have been got this ship in or something. Yeah, for so I was on the road. I ain't been to the eighties year. I'm but I'm gonna come back in like two weeks, but I ain't been able to get back how did how you holding up on this Corona ship? I'm good, said he? Why you feel me I stayed healthy anyway? Talks about far the business and ship like that? Oh um, I mean she it really don't affect me because you know, I doubt you feel be like like, um, if if one if the water dries somewhere else, I'm gonna find the wheels somewhere else and blank. And they say you'd be you be, You'll be growing your own making your own food and ship. Yeah yeah, I grow my own ship. You've been like, so your own vegetabral and like you got a gardeners on Yeah, yeah, I got a few, like I got one out here and tests I got one in the eight bit, I got one in Hawaii. Like when whenever I go somewhere, you feel I like to eat my own ship And it's crazy. What made you start doing that? Um? I just found out. I just found out how how what kind of chemicals that ship was in the food. So I was like, damn, it's easy to grow your own ship. You get some seeds and you clamping them off and it's easy to grow, you feel. I ain't never even thought of no ship like that. Yeah, it's it's it's it's just being self reliant. You feel me like I could just walk in the backyard and go get some food. I ain't gotta go to the show. I ain't gotta go through a drive or not. Who who um, how you get into that? Who talks you how to do growing ship? But you just touch use up? Um? Now, I just I used to be on YouTube and I see some like doctor saidy type you see it and some other folks, and um, once I've seen that, I would like, damn, it's that easy, and I just went ahead and did it. Mm hmm. Hey bro, you've been at it for a minute. You've been at it for a minute. I want to talk a little bit about the history man money Man, because you know, to some people, some people, they might not know how long you you've been at it for, Like how how long would you say, uh, successfully, probably like for five years. Like like when I dropped my first official mix tape, it took off. How long how long you've been money man? Because before you were money Man, you was I had a few names, like I had jay maney Jado money Man. I kind of ship okay, yeah, yeah, yeah that too. But Um, it really wanted no push. You feel me like it was just stagnant. But I really wasn't focused like that on route line was good bound. Yeah, I see you got the empire with your campaign. Real hard man, You're a long way we locked being to get them chance going boy. Yeah for sure. He do eighty one business only. I only folk with with nias who do a one business in the music industry. That's why that's why you don't see me bouncing around too much, because I just like, I just like to do good business. You know what you say? What you say was your busy biggest obstacle in this ship you know what to get to the point where you are now? Um, damn, my biggest obstacle. It was a lot on because because you know, I had to do everything myself, Like when I when I started popping, it was hard because I had to do all the promotions um and ship like that. Um. When I signed with Stunted off had I had to deal with cash money though, But it wasn't no ospitle because because I had the money by that time, I had the money to pay my way out to deal. So it really wasn't it really want nothing, you know, what I'm saying. It took like a month work from the negotiations and that ship was done. But the biggest negotiation, I mean, Ospitcle probably was what was getting a fan back and feeling like, you gotta get a fan base. Once you get a fan base's great. What made you? What made you feel like, uh, you had to get out to deal with uh? Slim and maybe No I fought were both of them? I just thought with Stunner and Schlim mi asset. But but I had called them one day. I had because I was thinking. I was sitting and smoking and I was thinking, I was like, damn, all I all need to get get in bed with who they was working with Universal, No, it was somebody else. It was um whoever draped them with, you know what I'm saying. And I was like, damn, because because you know, once you get once you get in bed with folks like that, you can't sleet on folks like you. You're never gonna meet you really ever gonna meet the head of universe or the board, you know what I'm saying. So they fucking they're sucking your money up. You don't even know who to go see. You get what I'm saying, So I'm not. I don't want to never tie my money up and see it like that. So I called Stun him before they started really promoting me, and I was like, seeing Stunning, I want to go back independent. And he was like, on, nephew, I fought with you. He was, I want you to stay with the label, but I respect that if you want to do that, just give me what I gave you back. You know what I'm saying too. But that but Stunning funk with me. It was it was respect like he's when he signed me. He told me with me was look, you know what I'm saying, what you think of what you think a bad record deal is because a lot of artists he's saying, Man, it's a bad deal. That's a bad deal, like what you think make up a make a bad deal or it's every deal bad. A bad deal is a deal that leave you broke. You know what I'm saying, Like, like, you can have a good record deal like Drake, Drake record deal good he's gonna eat regardless no matter what they know what's saying. You know what I'm saying. But but like, um, it's a lot of folks who signed for the record deals, but independent ain't for everybody, like this ship works. So if you don't want to do the work, like do some folks this ship to Julie. You know what I'm saying, Like I don't want to get me a quick two ft or five hundred or m. You know what I'm saying, Like rap I ain't no rapple. But that's how a lot of niggas think about it. Some nigga. Some nigga this ship their livelihood, Like that's what they do their artists, you know what I'm saying. So it's whatever flows your boat. Like like me, I make my own deals, like when I go when I go to a to a person who I want to do a deal with, like I tell them my terms and then we drawed up, like they let me let my lawyer draw the ship up. You know what I'm saying, Like they said the paperwork and its feet, the pages. I don't even read that ship, you ge know what I'm saying, Because if you give me fee the pages, like there's too many pages, you're hiding something, you know what I'm saying, Like I like my ship fortified pages really one page, you know what I'm saying, and I don't. I don't talk to every label, every label in the game that tried to sign me. But it's kind of like all that feet page, ship, don't be going for that. He don't take one page. I wrapped and payte got them when it page. You know what I'm saying, because it's like all these pages, what you're trying to have, all these closet and that, like what's going on? So that's I don't That's why I don't quote with that type. Yeah, what's your Like the moment was in the streets when you start taking the music seriously, Like was it a particular moment like some legal ships, some other ship that that made you say, Man, I'm gonna really get on this rap ship. I always could wrap like I could. I could. I probably was going talented, like I just had a gift, you know what I'm sounding. I can put words together and ship like that. But when I started making money in the streets, it kind of was like I don't even need to rap because I'm making so much doing this. Then I caught it ill Like I caught it. I caught a big ill and I was like, you know what, ship, I need to make some money happened and I made Black Circle. When I made Black Circle, I put it out. It was out for three months. Then Mississippi put me for forty five Hunt. And you know, once you get that first show, you're like, ship, we gotta keep me ship going for forty five Hunted for a Saturday night. Yeah, yeah, saying them the street money was good. That was always as every Hardy's just like that ship can hurt you knowing how to get money before wrap, you know, definitely, because you get lazy with the rount like you like that. I had got to the point where oh I was like fuck round, I'm eating Why I beat the round? You know what I'm saying. Yeah, but got there cut putting the good position to take an ill and then you come back your first take this ship go up. Yeah it went off to like um how like you came out. It was like you came out of nowhere, like who the fuck is this needle going crazy like this? You have for show? Because I put it on the internet and uh, Memphis, Memphis, Mississippi. Ship like that figured up first. It didn't it hit the height because I didn't do no all right, So I didn't want to promote in the ad because I didn't want to get I didn't want to get popping in the neighborhood I was living in. You feel me there, Everybody be like, oh that shouting, you know what I'm saying, And I still want to stay where I wanted to stay that so I just promoted it on the internet and it started getting popping. But I started getting too big to live in that neighborhood, so I had to move anyway. What you think? What you think? Um? Like, did you lose a lot of friends and homers on the way up through this ship? So I lost a bunch of them. You feel me because it's like it was like niggas was saying I would change it, but I'm the same, like everybody else was changing. Like I'm the same person, Like I don't really care about failing or none of that. Like niggas. You know, niggas get around you and they won't. They see all the holes coming and ship like that, and their head get big and I'm like, ship, we're gonna make the money. Know what I'm saying. We're gonna get the money and we're going at home. So yeah, you're talking, we're badly see you talking though, Man, y'all talk that much because it ain't no point. Like I get my money and I go, I go home. You know what I'm saying, You're gonna be posting it or nothing? Man, you need let you're dropped, gonna be posting in a nothing now, you know now because you know I just should I be living. You know what I'm saying, Like I don't even got a post did how's it being? How is it being like a rapper from the Cator? Man? Like you're from the Caator? You came up in Decata? Right? When's the childbum Cameroon? Now that ship? You think it's harder? Now you just tell nigga like affect your crab like maybe with the practice every day. That's why he's so fat. I'm gonna make songs every day and get five like needle to be waiting on the weight on somebody to give them me here this ship like that here now, if I can't sing, I might go take some singing lessons and feeling in same my own hook like I just do it myself. I don't wait on nobody. I just do what I gotta do for real. That's true. But the Carya. How you know, it's a lot of it's a lot of artists from the case, it's a lot of it's a lot of artists from the eacht side. That's your typing. Yeah for sure, for sure, ohead, go ahead, go ahead. How did um like the fame change you? For like with females, like when you're married single with like I got a girlfriend, you feeling like but if you had before, yeah, before after this, now I had a okay, well yeah, when you gotta speak on that, then if you still gotta know that stuff, you know what I'm like, Yeah, for sure you're smoking, Yeah, for sure. I saw some silly ship on the endnet. This for both of y'all. If nigga bring you a pack when you say it's smoking, and but they called a pack the runa, y'all gonna smoke that ship and neither smoked my pot up, my partner Joe Joe by the strain out called corona already Yeah, two three out there already two three of the others that without saying and niggas go smoke too. Niggas don't get of that ship. Say deep nis, Donna smoke that weed which show now see you going through you ain't got now started growing on that ship. Yeah, yeah here, Yeah, that's why I was just living it. Before this ship started, I was living in San Francisco, but I ain't gonna call. I had to get the fun because you know, it's the virus came right over there. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, I would standing out there. I was pushing strains together. I got ten fut teens. Strange coming out career. That's hard. Yeah, and we're working on We're trying to get a dispassery. Uh, but you know it's a lot of hoops. You gotta jo fo to get dispiscaries out there. But that's what I moved up for. I was. I was living in his wife for for a minute. Then I moved to San Francisco and I was putting together again a dispissary and growing on strange. Bro, you gotta be a different type of negative think and say I'm gonna get up and move to Hawaii. Like what what what made you say I'm moving to Hawaii. I'd be faster, Like like, when I be faster, I'll be trying to go where everything clean. That so you know, Hawaiians are temple with surring islands out there, so it ain't all the extra ship going on. So I just go out there and I do like two or three day fast cleanses and ship like that. And um, and I stayed out there. I had got a cree about that. It was like it was like a house right on the ocean. It was like a tree house. And then I had a garden out there for fruits and veggies, and I was growing weed out there. You feel, yeah, exactly, it's organic. We like, I don't like to smoke a lot of this ship. I don't like to smoke a lot of the ship that'll be coming around because you know that you don't know what they put in that ship, like you don't know who grew it. So I like to do my own ship. You got them mindful what you put in your body? That's really I need to get like that. Yeah here, yeah, you know you feel better like ship. I work out three hours a day now, you know what I'm saying. So that would I be all what made you just snapped? They snapped into that like, um, man, I don't know, man, I I just get I get um compulsive with ship. Like once I do something, I just do it too much. So once I start working out, I do it too much. I start growing vegetables. I do it too much because you know I win't vegan. I only eat fruits and vegetables. I ain't perfect, like I eat some sugar like ship with sugar and all that type of ship. But for the main part, I eat fruits and vegetables because I know that's what we're supposed to eat. Once I heard O this ship right here, fuck you up, I was like, oh, I can't eat that no more because I know it sucked me up. So I ain't gonna keep doing something that keep sucking me up. I know better now what I'm saying. Do you have the same you you don't have the same energy, then food them some ship, dude, I got more energies. Light on my feet. See all the other thing be slowing me down, you know what I'm saying, Like all that meeting, all that extra ship, it makes you sluggings and slow your body down Like I do a twenty four hour fast. I hit the tread man. I running on a seven miles an hour for an hour, You feel me some point five for an hour real quick? Because there ain't nothing in me slowing me down. But at first when she started that, he was a little funked up though, right when you die, so you just stick fast and cleansing nothing. You always it's been good because I tried this, I got sick as fun now you see that. But then your body just out of a jud like fast and give me a hot like I smoked. You know what I'm saying, Like if I do a draft fas for two days, I get high like I smoked. Mhmm, that's crazy. I don't I don't know. I don't think I can do it. I tried. I tried for two hours. It's just my steps for real, me like you gotta do eight hours in sixteen hours, that twenty four. But I don't push it, don't nobody. It's just something I do. Feeling me like, no, no, neigle, bro You think you think everybody don't want that discipline. Nigga, everybody want that discipline. Broe that it's photo discipline like I studied gooding religion, you feel me, Like every religions somebody fast and they're doing it for a reason. Jesus fast and booted fast, and this nigga fast. You get what I'm saying, yeah, m that's hard, bro, that's hard. What on't what's your what's your create what's your creative process? Like like how much you put out a lot of music? You know what I'm saying. You already got two in this this this year so far, So what's your creative process? Like, like how you like the studio to being shoot ah, I see I record on the I record myself like, I don't hand no engineer and nothing, like I just got a wrong a Mac computer. I use my map on my laptop. I hook up a little cheap ass mixer to it. I get a decent mic, and I just record, like I don't know why. I say, like Niga be having the two hundred thousand dollar studios making bullshit like I just I just get a little set up and I go crazy, like and then all my ship is like past stories and ship out. I'm been through or like when I went to Hawaiian Like if you listen to State of Emergency, it's a lot of places I'm naming. Niggas. Don't catch it. I say like, hey, no, I say, why layer, you know thats THESS cities over there and I'm moving around you know I'm checking out or do a business in you give what I'm saying. Frisco, I recorded, uh pandemic and I mean academic and Frisco. You know what I'm saying. And that's all Frisco ain't go. That's all flavors that niggas said a lot of a lot of folks where we ain't never gonna get the smoke in flavor, like they ain't never gonna taste but now the cream cake or they ain't gonna smoke uh ship like that. It's thousands of flavors out here. You know what I'm saying. And I just begin Nigga's hill. What made you like? Oh? Like so so the ship that you're talking about, Like you get a lot of your ship from like reading or like chopping it over other people building? Or how how did you become more smarter and more intelligent than the average I hate to say average rapper, but it's just the truth than the average rapper. I just soak an info. Like anything I see, I soak it up. She don't like a fun Like if I see some online and it sounds interesting to me, I soak it up because you know, I'm always trying to see where money going, Like like right now, I want to know where the money going so I can make something with it. You know what I'm saying. You hit on that bitcoin too, Yeah, yeah, I hit on bitcoin. I hit big on bitcoin. I get you caught what you call this ship? Yeah, I caught. I caught this when it was three hundred dollars that ship. Um send me three hundred right now. But when I saw a man, it was up and I bought it for three hundred dollars. That's uh. And then you can buy I might buy something. If they go back down the thirty nine of folk, I'm gonna buy someth wait un till they go up the ten twenty again and sell that motherfucker eat again. But but my thing is I try and stay ahead of the curve. That's why I'm not there a Frisco too. I ain't. I ain't in northern California just because of just color Weed. But that's the tech capital, so all the money and tech. So I'm gonna be where the money at. You give what I'm saying. I'm gonna go out there and I'm gonna stay six months, and I'm a mingle with them folks. Yeah, yeah, that's real because look this because old money like really stay oh manny, that's what that's what the old biggings used to have. The new the new trillion. Now they're doing tech. It ain't billion now no more. They trillion nows mm hmm. They take ship. That's where that money. Uh yeah, and you run it off fast. You know the Internet. Let you run it off fast like you ain't gotta wait like like all the others. Ships slow money, the Internet fast money. So I'm trying to get the fast money like you can get rich overnight or you get rich in a month, two months, three months. You know what I'm saying. I need to get on your line. You text you gotta plays bro we with it? Yeah, you said what you gotta when you gotta money, play we with it. Just send us a text. We all in. Yeah, I'll be all all type of money like like down here, tests about some land, and I got some cattle because you know cattle like cond like flipping flipping dope is all like you buy. You can buy a calf for five hundred dollars you can hold on to and fatten it up. They're selling for eleven hundred dollars. You get what I'm saying for eight hundred dollars, But I don't eat meat, so i'd be having a struggle with it. I don't eat meat, but you know I still can't pass up on the money back. Yeah, I mean I couldn't little bit of money at Like I'd be like, oh, ship, nigga's gotta eat food so you can. You can make money with food, that's a necesson. Yeah. So you when you're gonna cook around and get your old your own store some ship like yeall want one? Cause right now i'd be eating, I'll be swimming, and why that's the only thing open mm hmm the grocery storees. You canna go get whatever you want from the grocery store right now till eight o'clock. Yeah, yeah, that's true. We saw you were sitting all your all the fans and ship of cash afs. That was that was pretty hard. We made you decide to do that. I stayed doing like, I stayed doing charity work, like I just fought with the people because you know, the people is who putting me on, Like I didn't get put on by nobody like another rapper. Then valt for me none of that type ship. The people did so so I always do charity work like I did. By thirty shows, I was giving out designer shoes to the crowd, like I get, I get a purse, I get like a three thousand dollar perch for a female, get some twelve hundred dollars shoes for h for a nigga, and give them out to the crowd every show. And U paid for what Like I was doing Ship. I was doing three shows, three shows a week for twenty rats of peace for three years. You feel me on the low. So niggas don't even know what be going on, and they got you in the running up and then then they're gonna be on all the instra and ship trying to keep up with the negles and be trying to keep up with the bag. I respect that, but that's how you go broke. Look, look, I don't be on other nigga page that. I don't get jealous. I don't care what's going on. I just stapped my right. So thanks money man. Money man, what's the what's the biggest problem you don't probably have with another rapper, Like maybe maybe a disagreement by the feature or somebody hating. I don't had niggas hate with folks like, but I don't pay it no man like because you know, like we're not worried about that. You feel me like, as long as than I ain't a threat to my life for the circle, willn't give a funk, you know what I'm saying, Like nigga's gonna hate, That's just what niggas do. It's in the Bible feeling can hate it on able, you know what I'm saying. So we don't give a funk about it. So what you want? What you want out of this ship? Now that now that you're getting the money independently, which is which is super dope. We salute that, you know, saying you've got your other businesses? Like what else you want out of this ship? Oh? Like my career just starting. You feel me like I'm just now even though even though my ship being gone, my ship was gone already, it's just starting. You feel me like I'm just now getting mainstream. I just hit bill or um. So I just want to keep making good music and giving it to the folks, like I don't want to be putting no box, like like I only made this type of music so I stayed perfecting my crab feel like I said, I'm trying to be like Maywell Mayweather practice relentlessly. So I'm gonna be in that studio relentlessly and I'm trying to and I ain't gonna lie like I'm trying to get that like I'm trying to get my ship at the top, you know what I'm saying. But I'm trying to do it independently. Ain't nobody ever did it independently like that, Like everybody be saying they're independent, but they're not independent, you know what I'm saying. And their gold number though, like somebody came with a particular number with it with it make you sean yeah for y'all. But but I thought with guys, and so we're gonna get there anyway, Like like I try to make the music like good Gas to sell itself and now your ship out, bro, don't care. Yeah, I just put it out. I just put it out in the universe. I don't even promote it like that. I just I just put it out. I dropped a CD call no promo. I ain't even promote this ship and it did almost I got Gold records. I ain't never when it got the platform because I don't care about it. Um, I got all kind of see it going on. I just don't pay attention to it. I try and keep myself humbling, grounded, you know what I'm saying, because you know, trying not letting none of that ship madical. When the ship started mattering stuff, you know they out of charing. You get what I'm saying. So I try and keep myself grounded because because it's all kind of successful things that happened. But like I said, I try to keep myself disciplined and grounded. Get my young nigga. I want I want to make some of my young niggas don't make mistakes and ship like that. Like I just want to be a good example for because I can't be telling them ship and there I ain't doing it like like I don't want to make sure they follow my lead rights on right, Yeah, what's the ship you'd be on? People not know about? Like, I don't know if it's a just some ship, you're just doing some fun ship. I don't know, you're like you who anything that time? Who I got? I got a t v S. I be on a t v S every day, Um, ride horses. I got horses. I ride horses almost every day. Um, I don't know ship I live, but you know I live like I live like the old days, like I burned my own track. You feel me, you made bread first scratch. We live like in eighteen feet. So this ship ain't nothing for you. You get on this ship, you yeah, yeah, yeah, this it ain't nothing. This ship ain't okay. I got you ain't living like Yeah, we are living like that, like we stayed like the land. We stayed like. But you gotta do everything yourself. You know what I'm saying, Like everything yourself. That's crazy, bro. Let's think a discipline though. You got hip you with that. Oh, I got a few folks helping me. It's all family though, you know what I'm saying, Like, because I only funk with family. If in a family, I ain't, I ain't trying to be around if that family or the circle there, you're gonna see me a real ship. Gotta gotta separate the elevator. Yeah, definitely, everything else a distraction. Man, like we got we're trying to I ain't gonna lie like I'm trying to be a big and you know what I'm saying like I'm trying to be a big enough for show ship. Put everybody on some game bro like it us two three books you might funk with, or some movie like everybody and shot trying to like, you know, be entertained. Right now, what's the ship you put some people on? Um, I ain't. I don't. I really read no books in a long time. And then the movies I see, they just go through my head because because you know, a lot of times I'll just be sitting and i'd be I'd be thanking or I'd be like on the strology and numerology and ship like that. But um, but some game, this is the best game I can give, like young niggas and every everybody. You know what I'm saying, Like it's a it's an internet world, so you gotta catch up. All the money's on. All the money is going to online, Like if you want to make some good money, you need to computers. You know what I'm saying. That's why all the money yet, like in what lane though, You're saying, like any lane you're anything? Like all right, so if you're a street nigga, Oh, but you know what I mean, you get what I'm saying like it's it's it's money over there, like like you can convert. And then if you if you're in college, then you need to be doing something computer. You need to be doing something like if you if you ain't being on nurse and no ship like that, then you need to be major in the salthing computers because that's why all the money and white folks is on that ship. You know what I'm saying, like white folks ahead of the game, niggers, ain't. I think we like two or three center some ship like that in computers, and that's why all the jaws going to but even on the street side, like everything, that's that's how That's how nigga is running it up. And feel like getting real paper with paperwork, yeah, for show for show for show. So I when they got a thousand dollars and you're trying to flip, what would you tell them like it was your little naked If it's a thousand dollars and they're trying to flip it, I don't know, man, Like it's kind of hard because I mean I know a way, but I think can't be saying ways gonna hear you feel me like a dolland to get you in the dough. But I don't like in my music. It's say you know what I'm saying, Like like a rack or gets you te in easy tooper easy, you gotta wrack even you probably can get a dub if you got a little patience. Facts that's easy. That would I be on, Like that's why nigga, That's why nigga listen to my music because I swell like you begetting to the nigga play by play like up to my getting a real goddamn I can took the course. But I said, it isn't neigga money crazy and keep keep I just spied up and they go. But I don't made a millionaires like like ship, I go to different cities and it's millionaires out of made it's thousands everything. You know what I'm saying. Because they listened to it like it's gospel. And then it's your niggas who live by this ship like they live by the certain principles I live by. It's a lot of niggas who don't win vegan all my music, you know what I'm saying. I said, it's just it's like a colt. You feeling like you win, you win. If you ain't, you ain't. We ain't tripping though it's real. Sorry it's still black Black Circle, still the label right who who who? You gotta funder you or with you? I got Shooter, I got Junior, I got Savage, I got on Young and um who else? It's a it's a bunch of artists. We gotta fund to us. Um. But like I said, they perfected they sound, and whenever they ready, you feeling me because they'll be on the street ship too, like, but whenever they're ready, I got them, like I put them on songs. I put them on on a lot of them are my older mixed tastes, but my new ship. I was out of town, so I ain't had time to you know what I'm saying, send them songs and ship like that. Like when I make a song and all for that out the next two minutes, I might not even mix that motherfucker. I might just uploaded the youth too. So I try to get fans all music at real time, like like like niggas who funk when I see it happy because they always get new music. I'm always dropping off, you know what I'm saying to state emergency. Man. That ship took three days. Mhm, standing emergency took three days. Uh, epidemic took eight hours. UM Epidemic went number number Epidemic went number ten on Apple Music with eight songs. So I should have made that motherfucker's sixteen songs and they would have went number one because you know, let's they go by Alga River, like if you got twenty songs, you might go number one. So I just but I I don't be for the for the noble player. I just be for trying to get on good music, like all this ship coming upside and then mesh will all my big exaes I make within a certain time period like paranoia, paranoia. I probably made that ship like two days. But I don't make miss tape. I can make a miss tape and see it's over that. Now, well that's hard. It's hard. So so you say you even let nobody out rook you up. Now, I'm not working there, but I'm i'm I'm I'm not I work whoever. Like that'd be my mottos, like I gotta out work whoever. You know, it's I don't care what's going on. I get in that mode. I might I might turn my phone off for three days. Just the guy. Now think about what's gonna go on. And then I insecuted, like I'm gonna turn my phone off. I'm gonna get into my girl and be like put that in your purse. And then I'm just gonna be in my room fast for three days, and then I'm gonna drop a mix tape. You know what I'm saying, Like that's how I did six hours. I dropped the mix tape a six hour. Um, I just I just went on a fast. I was that I was in l A. I did a fast. Then I came back to the A and I dropped the tape. Then I dropped six hours too. I did that at six and I probably did that in five hours. And I just dropped the tape. But it's like, I don't know, It's like something just come in me and I can just put that ship out there. I don't know what it is. But I can't do that all the time. Like it's only certain times I can do that. You feel me like, yeah, I gotta be the zone. Yeah I can't, Like I'll be saying some nigga, some nigga can just go go go drop a burrd like when I did that take with A long Way, Long Way until going there And it don't matter where it's at what time it is, he's gonna go crazy. Be an issue on too long and your A long Way go Craig long Way of Beasts, A Long Way wanted the best niggas it did m hm. He wanted five niggas and the eight of me. Yeah, me too. That's hard. Is anybody get the lucky in the way yet that you want to? Um? I got some ship coming with Gates, um who else? I don't know. I don't be doing too many pieceas if it's the song. But I do a features, but I don't be doing too many um but I lock in with whoever. It don't matter to me. I just don't be doing too many features. We just feel like it's not needing. Yeah, I don't be trying to. I don't think neigga do featas they fall out and they beef and out. I don't be feeling like being mixed up with all this ship and then honestly like I don't really care how big and it is like Jack cut this, Nigga this and nig I don't care as long as the mutic I'll be trying to make good music. I don't care about. I know there's a lot of nigga do songs just because like I'm pipping you popping, let's do a song. I like that ship that sounds good and man that all my ships, all my ships streamed like crazy because I I care about the music. So all my ship gonna stream and then my ship catch up later, like like I don't need a hit song. Like if you look at most niggas catalog, it's one of hit song to everything else. Nobody really listened to. All my ship stream even I ain't really got no stand out here like that. I had boss Up and how I feel at first, but she trying me did the same numbers as bossed Up and half feel really step on this ship like that. But I'm my new ship. I'll do the same nomals. That's hard. That's that's called a solid fan badge right now. Yeah, for sure. I I just try and add to it every year and then like I said, like I try and make it Like now, I'm trying to get niggas some games. I'm trying to. If you listen to my ship and ship, you might and you like and got that w money of the triple your money up and you're gonna fute with me for life. That's hard, man, that's hard. Now it's inspirational, bro. You definitely got it together on all levels. Man. What is there anything you say you need to work on. Oh I'm kind of anti social, so I might need to work on that networking because I don't network that much like they could be. I don't do interviews that much. I don't network that much, so I probably people tell me, like money, you probably can't be bigger if you did this and you did that or you did that. But I really don't get it, feel like that would be you don't like if you start doing it that ain't you, then it's gonna crumble all of it. It's gonna fall apart. Like yeah, that's I don't really listen to. I don't really listen to what folks gotta say because because I don't want their opinion to start getting to me. I'd be like, ship, maybe I should get what I'm saying, because when when a bunch of people tell you the same thing and start getting to you, you start thinking like that, maybe I should go through breakfast club, or like the reason I did y'all y'all ship because I fought with y'all, I thought, and I thought, with you, I just love with people like I just y'all the type of people I kind of fought with you feel me. So I was like, damn, I want to do the podcast. I thought with put cast too, like I'll be looking at all um different podcasts, and I was telling them, like podcasts the future, that's the future of this ship. Yeah, I'm glad, shut up. Yeah, hell yeah, like just the wave right here to ship. You'all doing the wave? Oh so you so you'll be watching the motherfucker every single one he has love he put up, he put early, he had to. Yeah, like when I look when i'd be running, I'd be hoping y'all got a new podcast out because I need something to listen to while I'm jobbing to and love bro Like today I listened to the one where We'll Walk, Yeah, the old one, the one with Russ I ain't see the one with Russ mm hmm okay, yeah Rus, I like russ Man. Yeah yeah, for Rest, I think you know not my Paris think you should do music with different niggas. Though not you know what IM saying, selecting nigga because you can kept into a different fan basic like that. You know what I'm saying, Yeah here, yeah, now I will, I will, should, I mentioned may and do ship like that. It's just for some reason, I'd be traveling so much like before this ship, like I was, I was just going. I was the air. I was gonna go to Japan, Like when I was in Hawaii. Hawaiian got flights to Japan. I was like, Oh, you can go to Japan from here and then only take a few hours. I was. I was like, what, I'm gonna go to Japan real quick, just to see what's going on. Then um, guys, he hit me. So I was like, fucking I need to go to San Francisco, get me stranged together and what with the text hit. But I had a whole plan before the quarantine ship. I was gonna go to San Francisco. I was gonna sit there and I was gonna I was gonna meet somebody from one of these tech companies, catch your out, put a little money into it, and go crazy. They got coming up with shooting every day to make bigans out for a little every day because nigga mate out there, whoever put some many in uber eating right now? Lift um um uber eats all that ship? Whoever putting money in that eating? Yeah, So I just be kind of catching lit you feel me like, like I don't be trying to act like I'm too I'm too cool to know what this is and what that is. Like I'm trying to know what everything is. That how you do That's when you get diverse, That's how you make more many great ship. Hey, what's you say that like niggas that there's there's a lot of niggas out there that make excuses and you know what I'm saying, You don't spoke about having having it before, going broke, getting it up again and all that ship? Like what you say to that nigga that just always just making excuses for why they ain't getting there. I don't listen to excuse me because you know, my god, damn, my pots didn't listen to no excuses. So I just can't even listen to it. Like when the nigga tell me excuse, I tune them out, you know what I'm saying, Like I I automatically lose respect, Like damn, I don't want to hear that ship because I don't make excuse me. You know what I'm saying, Like, I don't make them. I just I get it done. I tell people that all the time, like I don't make excuses that I got people I gotta take care of. I can't make excuses to them when they can't pay their bills. Ship, I don't want no nigger to tell me no, it's cute. Mm hmm. That's come fromt uh what I was I was about to say, I said, come from the streets. What you say you brought from the streets to the industry with you just the hustle, cause because you know, like when when you come from the trout and then you treat you kind of treat raut like that, like damn, um um, I can make this many songs and they make this much money per mncy. That how I think, Like, Damn, if I can drop three mixtapes, I'm gonna make this much money. I'll be having the number in my head. So I need to drop ten and I'll make this much money. And and a lot of niggas don't think like that. That's how I think, though, Like I need to keep dropping it. I make sure a quality though. If you if you got quality of music, you can do that. But U ship, I'd be like ship this year I need to drop ten mixtape ibody may six million dollars. That's how I be thin. That's I keep going and you feel me like I'm gonna keep going and going and going. Now that were I'm glad we got somebody pheenie hustlers ears. You know what I'm saying, The future hustlers you think is one who be hustlers and ship. They need somebody to feed their hears because lovely ship just to be watered down. You know what I'm saying. You're like, like right now, it ain't it ain't really too much. I listened to everybody. I listened to everybody's ship. Um and um, it don't be too much new ship to listen to. Like that, you feel me like I listened to's some little baby ships, some ghana ship, some third ship or future ship. But um as far at you like solid solid ship to listen to. I'm always looking for some new ship. If I ain't listening to my shoot, you know it? M who who is? Who is? Who is? Money? Man? Go? Like coming up? Like who was the goat like when you when you was when you was trying to get there. Like niggatives you say inspired you the most, it's a few like you got what at first? Like when I was growing up, I was listening to the world, but then the future took over. Future took over. That ain't for a good something a year, that's all niggas were listening to by some years you feel me to a thug and rich homie and all them came. But but like I listened to everybody, I don't. I don't got some inspiration from some of the everybody every town room country music. I'll kind of see you know what I'm saying, Like I ain't got just one one goat, But I say, like what future. I listened to both of them a lot, and given the opportunity, you would funk around with them with some music. Though, Yeah, yeah, definitely. I did a song with Goocy before before the last time he got locked up on my first next Change, but I ain't never did one after that. But like I said, it's I'm all about energy, like if it's organic and cool, but I ain't. I ain't really trying to force now, I don't really force me for real, that's real. What's next for you? Bro? Um, I'm gonna keep dropping takes. Um. I don't know if I'm gonna do it tour. I said, I don't want to do a tour for this ship over, but I got I'm gonna do a toy. I might not do no my show like I might do all my ships there from the house rights not here now I might not you. I don't want to give the Corona that like it. Ain't got nothing to do with Corona. Like before last year, I'll tell them my little brother, my little brother do all my my book. And I was like, Ship, I ain't gonna do no more shows. I don't feel like doing no more shows. I didn't want to. I got some other shit on. You don't like doing shows, um Man, I ain't gonna chot like man. I make so many song I don't even be knowing the words of my ship. I don't know the words and nothing when I go out there before, I just be up there because I make so much music that I'm on to the next song. Yeah, like right now, everybody listening to to a state of emergency and epidemic. I'm old ship. I got a new Hole, new CD I'm listening to. Then I mnna have another one that I make I'm listening to. I don't even I don't get a test to remember no words and you're writing it down or you're just going just be going. I just free style there thing. Okay, that makes sense, So I don't get a test to memorize and let you know what I'm saying, Like so a money man, I'm gonna tell you, bro, you're gonna be like shot, hey man, you don't do no shows. When you pop out, they don't have to pay you for show. And then I'm trying to dry this show, take it up. I'm trying to drive that bit out to like a hunting I want to get paid a hunted k yourself. So I'm gonna keep working till I get a song that will give me a honey Ka show. Yeah. I don't do that much promotion, like like ship, I just don't do that much promotion. I feel like, put it out and it'll organically do what they do. Yeah, but when I see when you got there they did uh big but promo companyn for the Yeah yeah that guy you know doing big, I'll be telling them, don't doing so big, that ship looking good, come up my dog handles. She did. She did the part of um yeah the party with crazy what what what? The part of was um the look look yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. She had that ship looking so good. Sea that's just looking good. Yeah, you know guty probo game crazy though, like he's gonna do it big. But I'll be trying to just have my ship pop out like I'll be one nigga to catch up to it, like down he dropped another CD, I ain't even know. I always want something new for somebody, see nigga's like new ships. I always might want to have some new material out, like um Nigga's love when they'd be like, damn, it's a new song. I ain't even know he had that out, So I'd be trying to do it like that. So that was like an album on mixtape along with with long Way. That was an album that was me and Pee Wee album. We're probably do another one too. So when you when you're saying, like, uh, the last two pages you put out, you just throw them out now. You ain't trying to do now. He we did some bill boys for We had some bill boys in the eighth state of emergency. But epidemic didn't. Dude, we didn't do no promo like we We just put that motherfucker out and then went number eight uh on Apple and that millions or stream so you can hit the bean stream soon. I might be there. I don't need pay attention. I didn't look at the check that come in. I'd be like, damn, why this streaming check? Big as a motherfucker. M h check a lot of on the streaming check, That's what I was saying. Huh. Anytime I get the salute, Guys in Empire do that because it's it's unreal that, you know, you deal with a lot of niggers and don't never get paid or gotta go chase them down. You ain't gods paying you for you even asked about it. Yeah for sure. Here, Yeah, guys, you put me on game. No, you know what's that? Like? He let me know what's going on with If you do this song with this label right here, that's why you're never gonna get paid. Or if you do this song with these people over here, that's why you're never gonna get paid. You're never gonna see your leg mm hmm. What would you like, I'm what do you mean by that? Like, well, see it's a label, like you signed to a label. You I don't care if you go triple platinum, you might not never see a check because because of the way that the words is written in a contract that you gotta pay so much back. So you might you might sell. You might go triple platinum, but you ain't never gonna see no money. It might take four or five years for you to see some money. So you said, a lot of the rebel layers who look legal, you ain't really brooke. Oh, I can't speak all. I can't speak on other folks you feel, because I ain't gonna like. I ain't been around. I ain't been around nobody to really know they're packing. But I know, I know when I go to Julie, Julie, I've been a hunter rast and the judet tell me, why ain't nobody never speak this with me? And I've seen all kind of folks through there. Now, I had two two juelers tell me that, So that's your vice? Ice is your vice. I was trying to figure out what your vice was. I don't buy no but but look, I buy loose diamonds though, to get my ship made, um to get my ship made by jeweler. I got some loose diamonds right now, I want to God and then get a jeweler to make it. Because I was like, I'm buying all this guy down jewelry and spending all this money because I spend a little. I spend a hundred at a time, like three of these these old back head teams. That's that's a sixty. But what the funk am I buying? You get what I'm saying. I ain't no diamond expert, so I want to buy my diamonds loose and then I know what I'm buying because I could be buying some bullshit past sixty recks. You get what I'm saying. Yeah, And I said, you know what, this is the dumbest thing I ever did buy as something that I'm not an expert in. That's like buying the house and me and put up and go see it. M hm. You get what I'm saying. You you bought a house, but you pull up over there and go look at you can go inside and look around. So I don't want to know what I'm buying. And you get what I'm saying, so I about some loose diavers, and the jeweler who I bought them from, showed me how to know if it's cut. I mean if because you know they're doing all kind of funny ship with diavards. Now, m yeah, they got ship. They can pay the diamond touch to no kind of ships. And I'm telling you so, so Nick got to know what they buying you here, because at the end of the day, this ship wereth many I really said I wanted. Ain't wearing this ship, no man, years, I feel need it. It's just like right now with this Drona ship. Just like right now with this Drona ship. Don't knowarn this ship we got the serious ship means nothing. I'll hey, look listen that Shi don't mean name you feel me that what I say? If they got there, if they ain't showing me nothing new, I don't even want to hear to see it life and nig ain't showing me how to get on money or better my stuff. I don't give them fun what they've got going on. I don't even want to see it. That's real ship because he can get egg out here. You gotta you gotta ship the strong survival. You gotta know what you're doing. Yeah, yeah, that's real, ship man. But I don't buy so much. Jury man. I lost. I lost hundred thousand dollars worth of Jurry, and I was like, what the fuck, nigga broken my I got my car broke into you feel me left jury and the car. I kind of trying to drop reins off my finger and I lost the whole bracelet. Hey man, you put a little insurance on that bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know a little insurance on that bro. But but I lost so much. It's like, damn, you can just lose that much money in the blink overtaway, you see, right. I wasn't I was in I was in bad Roode, bad rude. The twin thousand dollar braces. Don't know whether the ship I look up the chip off my hands at the club now, I would just I probably had a hotel or something, you feel me. I don't know where I was at. I was welcome. I've been smoking. I was drinking at that time. This was in the beginning, like I don't drink no more, but I was drinking. And after that I stopped drinking. Two bracelet gone, somebody got it ten thousand dollar rain fell out my finger. I'm wrapping. I'm wrapping a hold. You feel me rang those way? Uh? Yeah, I don't locked out faux range, Nigga Nigga the V Diamond change. Then I paid twenties seven thousands. They she just fell out my neck somewhere. I don't even know what you just man, Judas used to love me, man, I used to buy so much fucking Jerry Man. I don't do that ship no more. And like I said, Ice, it's your vice as WiFi tripping up, your WiFi tripping out dog. Huh say your WiFi tripped for a second, what'd you say? Yeah, I don't had so many watching all kind of seeing. Now just keep I just keep like out of martch you like that. I don't really, I don't really go too much crazy with that. I go crazy other ship like I just traveling ship like that. Yeah, I get some final words to the streets and the people out there. Man, you know what I'm saying. Listen, man, it's love. Man's love over here. You feel me like com fort with the circle. Man with us, shout out to the streets. We fought with everybody and last out out to the street nigga shout out to the corporate neg Um, y'all make sure I'll go check. Got the new ship Epidemic and State of Emergency. I got some lou ship dropping probably next week too, So y'all get ready. What's her name? Now? What's her name? Hold out? What's her name? I ain't made the name. Yeah, but but once I I got all the beach together, I'm gonna with court a night like sooner. But it was crazy because before I hopped on here, I was like, damn, I want to record because I had some ship in my head. And um, what I'm gonna do is I got like ten b so I'm gonna go drop out of records and then I'm just gonna make a name whatever fits around. Really, it's, however, just how to make my names. Whatever the world going through. It's like I'd be going through the same thing. You feel me. Like That's why I name the epidemic state of emergency paranoia like that, you know what I'm saying. When I made Paring it, I was paring when I made I was hearing though, so um. But it's like it's like if you peep last year, it was a shift it was a shift in everything, like the way people think it was a shift. It wasn't like twenty nineteen one, like like twenty nineteen because this is shift and it ain't just a shift in a single person. It's a shift in the world. Yeah, yeah, I for that. Yeah, you feel you gotta peep it and you gotta doubt to it and know what's going on. And that's what I'd be doing. That's why I say I be like astrology and sere like that because because it kind of keeps me on point. Astrology really is what got my racks are um, But that's another story for the song. Real point though, what we read and we want to get a little deeper and learning ship what what we read where we go. I mean, you can look up astrology anywhere, but but it does ship like It's like like it'll tell me like, oh, you're gonna take a loss, and I don't know how we'll take that hill, you know what I'm saying. But it will say something like this. Now, let me give you a better example. It'll be like, oh, you're gonna get a big check this one, so I get a hundred and twenty right then it will be like You're not gonna make no money for the next seven months, so guess what. You gotta save at least a hundred of that or a fifty of that until your next check com But niggas will blow that one five immediately. Go get a car, get a five downtown apartment. You get what I'm saying. In fact, that the next check in the cam. But it's show you like you might not eat two six months, so you gotta take I take send me five of that, or I take a hundred of that and live all huh horse soak, yeah from a horse coat. But I read like folk different ones. I read folcus. I ain't read them lately because I'm up. But back then that's what kept me up, Like that's what that's what for some reason, like like it was on point and I get checks that month or the next month. You get what I'm saying. It always came around that time and never failed. Well, um, you say, uh, what's your sign? I'm a piscey okay, So but a pisce like we feel everybody energy. And see that's another reason I don't be around I don't be around folks like that because other folks problems become mine for some reason. You know what I'm saying, Like we just soak up folks energy. We soak up everybody energy. So like like I can tell when you when you fucked up, or when you you know what I'm saying, like when you say or when you you get what I'm saying. Yeah, the reason I can just pick up on it like damn shout it fought up, Like no shouted said at the fought right now, Like I don't be one to you get what I'm saying. So I'll be having a I really be having a I'll be having a duck off because I don't feel like feeling everybody energy. It sounds crazy, but it's just it's just for other ship, you know what it's some people don't need shaped hands. They be on that energy that deep. They don't need to shape nobody in. Yeah, so you know what I'm saying, Like I just take everybody hand, but I can tell them. I can just tell who a person is when I meet him, Like I can feel that energy. I can feel if it's bad energy, if it's good energy. I just know. I know for the something. If I can thought with you, I can't. But everybody everybody fought with me. Everybody pick up on my energy, like I don't come with bad energy. I'm not on the I'm not on the sucker ship. I'm not on the bullship. I do eight one big. I can make money with anybody. I can make money with a street nigger. I can make money with a corporate nigger. It don't matter. You know what I'm saying. To keep it, I keep at eight one. Nigga know I'm solid. Theyga know I'm genuine. Like if we sat down and we had a conversation, you're gonna know I'm jenking. You want to know. At the end of the day, I'm trying to help folks. I'm trying to help folks. Come on, I ain't trying to I ain't trying to shoot on niggles like that. Ain't what I do. For some reason, I motivated. I don't shoot on folks. I motivated. So that's just what it is. M hmmm mm hmm. Yeah. We appreciate your time in the game, but I learned a lot myself. You know what I'm saying, just sitting with you and ship now it's lords here. I'm I'm glad I did an interview. You feel, but I ain't get one in a minute. We get wet. When we get off this ship, we're gonna we're gonna, you know, I mean, we're gonna get one to get a love and ship, chopping up some more, teaching some more. Yeah yeah, yeah, I got that right. So on this ship, you bro man, so we can smoke together. Yeah. When I come back to the hey, I'm gonna bring you something because you told me to bring you something. But folk, but I got some ship, man, I got some flavors you an fun with. You know what I would be like and you'd be liking the gassy ship or you like the flavors the taste, but she's like great O G. Yeah, I know it's no that that was side like that. Yeah, I can't smoke out the flavor and I just want strong, strong as O G. But you know that that ship like runts and ship like that, you could taste you could taste the O G in it, but you could taste the flavor to you know what it's like. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like the run I like the run Yeah, like I'll be wanting some flavoring and now because I don't want to, I used to smoke number harshass O G. You feel me, no taste, no name the O G feel me. Yeah, I smoke like jelling. Ain't like jelling. Ain't got a smooth high like it's smooth. It don't hit you like O G. But it gets you high for like, get you high for all that type of ship like that. I'm gonna have all kind of flavors for you know. Sure, let me see you when you get back. Broth piece of love may be saved. My brother love y'all down. It's a little appreciate you, my nigga fellow Big Facts on social media at big Facts five five