The legend Too Short joins BIG FACTS to discuss his longevity in the game, females, the new generation of rappers, his career timeline and more.
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Big Man and DJ Scream bring you Big Facts hottest podcast in the streets. Visit the new website today www dot Big Facts pot dot com live for first class sounds. You know who it is, DJ Screen, Big Bang Baby Ja. Then today we have a special special legendary guests on Big Facts Show. Mr what's my favorite word? To short this head? Mr what's my favorite word? Might get that T shirt made? There you go, there you go, Welcome the Big Facts Soljee. How you feeling to day? I'm good, man, I'm good. It's always good when I get back to the A man always good. You lived here? How long did you live here? I was said, from ninety three to eight ninety eight years? And what made you? I wouldn't say at the peak, but you were just like popping popping? What made you up? And say? I'm going from the bay today. Freak Nike, Freak Nick. There you go. I came to Freak Nick ninety three. I heard about Freak Nick ninety two. Yeah, I was like, all right, I'm gonna go to it the next year. So I went to Freak Nick ninety three. I came here for the weekend. I stayed for two weeks and then uh, I was. I was about to buy a house in Oakland and my homeboy from Oakland lived out here already, my homeboy, um my hombie tone and he um. He fucking was like, what kind of how is she gonna buy something I've probably spent like about, you know, half a million, get a little something up in the hills. He was, let let me show you what's good for half of men in Atlanta. So it's freak. Nick were like riding around looking at a couple of properties and ship. I came back for Jack the Rapper a few months later, and I didn't even tell nobody what I was doing. I just kind of left the convention and I went and bought a house, and I just I just came out of here. Man, I don't know. I felt like, I don't know. It just called me. Man. It was the colleges, it was the strip clubs, it was the you know, I was looking at young Dallas, Austin and Jermaine and it was you know, it was the Face records. I'm like, I'm had to come get down with this ship. So I pulled up. Yeah yeah, And Atlanta is always like I don't think you had to fit in and those ships. Like when you got here, it was like people were just like short here and you just fit in, you know what I'm saying. But you know, like ninety three it was a little different than this Atlanta that was the Olympics, and it was like it was a different vibe and it's kind of like school Days the movie or something, you know it was. It was it was the streets tech what all that ship was. It was little, but then it was the colleges and it was that vibe and I was like, man, I'm supposed to be here, so uh, I don't know, man, it just you niggas don't know this. Though I lived in Atlanta in the seventies, I got one year in. I finished my seventh grade year, I started my eighth grade year. I lived on old National Highway Camelot outside. I lived in the camera while. Yeah that's probably like Dwayne Williams years. And then uh I went to M. D. Collins. I even went with seventh grade. I went to the meadows like people people in college plunking know these schools. But but yeah, man, I was I was out here. So my mama moved out here, and then I guess I don't know. She didn't tell me, but I'm assuming she was like Jane Williams, I'm getting out of hell out of here. I don't even I don't necessarily believe Lane will it was did all the murders. But at the same time, you know, it was in the air, and and we did back to Kelly. So when I got to Atlanta ninety three, I knew people. I knew certain people in school with I just kind of fit in a little bit. So, you know, with being a legend and the poneer of the game, what you think you brought to the game that's yet to be duplicated, Well, you know, I feel like, for one, every time you get a rapper with a dope style and a voice, people are always still it. Nobody never really stole two short voice, but nobody tried to mimic it and nothing. And then on the other side, my blueprint is all always been funky music with a lot of bass, and then just spent a lot of game. And then I could name you the few that figured it out. But people try to do certain things, and they had like the beats, but they don't have a game. They might have a game, but they don't have the beats, and it's like it takes both and you wanted to Like you're like, man, this nigger can't really wrap, but I'm spending a lot of game and the beats sounds so damn good in your car and people don't know that. That's how we was cheating the game, Like we literally, like you mixed your song in the studio, I mixed my songs in the car, like I I go to the guy and get the best goddamn stereo I can get. I'm like, okay, this one sound good, and I just put everything to the test in that car. If you don't pass the car test and they don't get mixed it master. So literally my ship was customized for your expensive as stereo in your car. How did you how did you deal with that? Then? Oh, coming into the game and that you know what I'm saying, that you're having a hold on it, and I know you ustill always hear like the short can't rap, short can't wrap it. In Atlanta, We're like, you the best rapper because we can relate to it. But they were like, he's not lyrical, he's not all this other bullshit, Like how did you go from that space to them saying people wanted to do music with you. Well, first and foremost, um the guys I was working when we used to have a strict policy. Let's let's do everything that they don't do, whatever they do when I do that, and let's do some ship they ain't doing. So that was first and foremost to just be not not trying to be like New York. And then I like New York Wrap. I love it, but I'm saying I didn't want to be it. So they're on top of that. Like the first reviews I got when I signed a Jive and I'm like, on the national scale, national level, I want to review the shitty. They was like, I can't wrap be swag. I'm like cool. The first whack review I got, it kind of hurt because it was a major publication. I'm reading them like damn. I thought, you know, when I do shows, they love me. And then I started making that money. So the next cycle when they gave me the bad reviews, I don't like ship, I gonna swimming pool at the house around like so it didn't it didn't really bother me. And then I started embracing it to where I was like they don't understand it, because if you got on the walk man, and you're on the train, you ain't gonna get it, you know what I'm saying, vice ab versa. If I'm if I'm in my car, I just spent twelve thousand on the sound system and you put in um some boom bath or something you know, with no with no real base, and it's intense, and it's you know, it's a certain energy like like the ship sound good in your headphones. You got your walk man, You're on the train, people stressing you out and ship and you're like trying to shut out the world if it works, But that ship I make you need a fucking ten thousand dollar assistant above it. And I just understood that. And I played my I played my lane, and they couldn't They couldn't figure it out. Man, I was I had like like seven six something platinum moutas before they didn't realize what I was doing. Nine months I think blamed you for Nigga not trusting relationships too. Bro. Well, you know that's another thing that people don't understand is I've been My music is really educational, Like I really, I really like put these stories in there and I give you these scenarios and I'll tell you the dudes and don't and it's just like it's like passing the game. I look at it like I'm just I'm just just one person talking to one other person, and I'm just giving you the game. Like this is how I walked. I walked around the city and the o G is giving me the game. The ogs let to get the game. So I'm like, I'm a past the game on and that's all I was doing. And and people took to that ship like it's like, don't don't let her pull up on you and tell you gotta give her give her all your money, like don't do it. And it's just like, man, I was. I was a sucker that I listen to drugs some short dog and I got the game. That was the purpose. Yeah, I feel like I feel like if Cocktails would have been a book, it would have been a best seller. That's when I first got the Atlanta. It was the first thing I made in Atlanta was a contail. I recorded the album at Dalla saw some studio. I shot the video out here. Everything see the trains in the background. So look, I want to ask you something and I want you to like just answer me, like very seriously, why didn't you ever trademark Bitch? Well, I've been asked that, and you know, early on it was just my thing. And I remember I felt like ice Cube had a record that it was a bitch is a Bitch or something and he said it at the end and then uh a MG came with uh this better have my money. It's going I think he was sapling the ice Cube song in that song and then people kind of start saying it and it was like, you know, I was, I was. I had mixed emotions, But the big picture of it is death Row comes along Snoop Doggs starts saying that death Row adopted it, like be honestly put a little twist on it. And I feel like, let's say, had I trademarked it before that, and I'm like, anybody said, you gotta pay me, I don't feel like it would have became what it what it what what what it did, But it hasn't. They didn't. Bitch wasn't actually trademarked until two thousand nine. But I'm saying, had you not given it to the world, it wouldn't have been the thing. It would have been my little thing, and I would have suppressed it and kept it right here, and it wouldn't The world couldn't have had it. So it's like it's like a contribution, man, and that's what That's what hip hop is. Hip hop. Let's see like in today's in today's music, like niggas are the opposite, like I said this first, or I made this word, or let's just look at hip hop. What if you could trademark a hairstyle or a fashion style like hip hop is is a gift like the whole When the rappers do something, the whole world does it. So it's like, that's that's what we do. We give out phrases and new looks and slick words and we give it to the world. Like that's what we do. Yeah, bitch, was my gift to the rocket short Let me get a bit, here goes, It's a gift. We got some bills about Kevin Samuel's passing the way. What's how you feel about this philosophy and the stuff that he said in the game and the well not what he what he was kicking. I don't know the whole journey. I look all I know is the recent uh clickbait. I can't get to the gist of what it, where it came from, and what it was. I don't know it was. It sounded like some pimping, but then it sounded real, like, you know, anti female. I don't know, you know, because Pepperkin was here, he called it miss pimping. I was readingly quotes and I'm like, I don't know what this, what this pimping is, but he sounded slightly angry because it was it was hate when I'm like, the last thing you want to do to get a hold of hope for you is be super hateful, you know what I mean. You gotta finesse it. So I don't know. Maybe he maybe he had a background and like some some serious gorilla pimping. You know, bitch, I'll kill you if your hope. I don't know. I don't know the stories. I can't really put an opinion. You know, over the years, how have you dealt with just like, oh, women who might be mad at you because of your music? How have you dealt with that? Uh? Well, in life, you gotta have your your balance, man, you know what I'm saying. You gotta you gotta notice so something that I always did, and you can talk to the to the women that know me, like I would get on that stage and that studio and talk a lot of ship. But then I'll get off the stage and I'll be like a gentleman And even though you know it's it's one players status, I'm still running it from like a gentleman aspect. So so when you leave the room, they don't go, oh, I don't think it came here disrespect for us, and like it was like damn, I thought he was gonna be rude and he was nice. Like it's it's a it's a balance in there. So so then when you do like um, she's like, I'm just thinking for me for two weeks and they call me no more, it's not so bad because I didn't for two weeks. I was for two weeks. I wasn't being disrespectful, you know. So it's it's a balance. But I tried never to walk through life and act like too short you know what I mean, Like I don't. It doesn't really work for me, but I know that people are influenced by me, and they tried, bitch, what's da bitch, what y'all doing? Not bitch. I don't do that myself. Yeah, I'm like, hey, ladies, what's up. How y'all doing? Which you're getting into like it's it's it's player. So um, I just kind of like, I just be myself. But would you consider too short a character? It's definitely something I made up in my room when I was in high school. Just I made the shut up. But it's real ingredients, you know what I mean. Yeah, it's not. I didn't have to go out. I never lied. I did not go out and pimp all the holes in Oakland and on the road to the game from the True Max and gave it back to the I represent the game. But at the same time, you know, hos have walked up to me and handing me all kind of money. I don't give it back. I keep it. I never was like, did you better make the quota every day? Like I had a like you were never a police pimp. Yah know, I had a whole give me money for years. I never once said what can you get off work when you're going out? She's just like, I got something for you. Okay. This girl walked up to me at a club in Las Vegas and said this, I quote her. I never get her quote. She said, nig you the reason why I'm holding and handing me a little thing of money. It was like tiny, it was tiny. It was tiny, but I looked at it was a crowded club. I looked at it later it was eighteen hundred dollar bills. I was like, okay, that's the game coming back to you. Was was if a young need pulled up on you, who just got into this ship, as you would keep the longe, but what your toe? Um, I just think, you know, the work ethic has always been in for me, Like and I noticed the people who win in this game are always the overachievers. They want to put in the most work. So you're sitting there measuring talent and skills and all the looks and all that ship. But it's really the hustler man. The hustler wins in this and my whole life, I've been a hustler. Like really, my feet on the pavement, I started awful, people say too shorts, So tapes out of his trunk. We was on foot. We didn't have a car. We were literally on the bus with a paper bag full of cassette tapes and then selling in the hood and ship. So I just think it's the hustle, man. I tell them, motherfucker when you put in all this work and you get your foot in the door and you look around and you're like, oh, ship, I'm on stage. They loved me. I made it like that, Like you should look at it like the opposite of that, Like this is where it starts started. Yeah, and then every time you have to try to figure out how to keep that ship going. Every time you set these goals and you achieve, and whether you do or not, when you get to that point, since more I'm just starting, it starts all over again. It ain't no endgame. And when you think like that, you're the winner. Yeah. And that's just I mean, it's a philosophy that is it's easily said, but it really requires you. Like if you're kind of that stay up to a for in the morning kicking and you still gotta get up in nine and hustle, Like you can't be the guy who sleeps all day. You can't be the guy who's who delegates and you're like laying around the money coming in and and you're like, man, go do that. Man, you do that, Like if you ain't doing it, it's gonna get away from you. So but I'm hands on. They always say like, man, let me, let me do it. Like no, brock got it. I carry these boxes, I'll i'll do the ship, I'll do to add it up. Whatever. So I tell them, mother, hustle hard, that's all. What what what year would you say your career started? Well? I had a I had a high school career at a rap party named Freddie B And we were really popular around the Bay. It was cassette takes. We sold everybody duplicating them. We was hot. We used to DJ house parties in the hood no matter where. We showed up at a dance whatever. They love this. And then um and I had my little independent career where you know, I was on seventy five Girls Records that was a little independent level out of Oakland. Then I started my own independent level Dame Just Music. And then I signed the Drive and the ship went big. I'm on the Easy, he called me up. I'm on the the straight out of Compton Tour, and I think just started there. That's why I really feel like this ship happened. Was that straight out of Compton Tour. I was, I was independent, have you know, have a lot of money. Drive Records came along signed us, and then um, we dropped. I dropped the album Life's Too Short. It's my first time getting like a radio song. I'm on a radio. I'm on the MTV wraps all this ship and an easy cast said, you want to go on the tour, get out on the stage, just like sold out and you know, man, I'm like, I'm like, okay, so they gave me this much money to make an album. Then I go on and I get this much real tour. I'm like, put me back in the studio. Let me ask you something about that tour too. When I was kind of trying to get that so right me if I'm wrong, in your whole career, you never had security, but not like I didn't have security. I didn't have a bodyguard. You didn't have my bodyguard. Like we were secure, right right right right, like it was safe. I had brought the right homies I brought. I brought. Um. I used to go on tour with like Okay, this is what this is what I considered real security. So we all hanging out and we're in the element wherever it is at the party scene. I used like to walk around the crowd after to do the show, I get off stage and walk through the crowd and take pictures and meet people and stuff. And I would tell like one or two guys like guys who like them, guys do that through that thing. I'm like, act like you ain't with me. So basically we're rolling into like four or five of us, but it's like two of us over there on the side. And then then the dudes that you know, you could be disrespectful. We ain't evenel like. We used to have a look, we like, we had a policy like let's get home. Let's get home. So in that policy is like like, man, buddy right there was pretty disrespectful, but that's like that's not gonna fight him right now, stay on him for a little while, suck him up later. And that's how we used to get down. We're like, you know, we get our little revenge and get home and you wouldn't even know you're like man too short, but at the same time you got beat up later that night. I didn't even know I did. That's that's how we used to get down. And I was like I never felt like I just never felt like big dudes like to do six eight. It's like I used to call him a body bluff. I'm like, if we had a big dude, I'm like, you do the body bluff, but then it didn't really the real dangerous to bow the muscles up off. I've seen them big dudes, man, Like everybody act different when they go up. Everybody got a different reactions. I tend to try to locate, like you know what I'm saying, before I get to dive in and duck, and I kind of want to locate a little bit. Okay, it's over there, and then things scattering over there, so that's you know what I'm saying. I try to evaluate and then I react instead of running to the bullets or IV it into him or some ship. But the big dudes go pop pop up. You pupposed me, bodyguarded me. Man. The big dudes, they get light on their feet when they pop up out get up out of that disk over there. So you know, I'm not saying all big dudes a little big crew to come around, but it's some it's some tough, fast dudes that to fight you. But when they hear that pop up, niggers would leave you, So would you advise in this current state of music, like if you had artists or you do probably do have artist, would you advise them to now without security? I would talk to the homies because it seems to me the part that's messed up in the in the equation right now is the homies. So I'm the rapper. They bring us the problem. Now we got a problem we gotta deal with. I feel like, Okay, I'm the one to make the most money in the crew. I'm employing a fiel of y'all. We're getting money. If I run to the fight and get messed off, the whole hustle is over. If they get to me any kind of way. If it's something happening, some crimes, get charged with people or something you say and I go down, the hustle stops. So the first thing you do is like the president, You're like, get the money side. But the the ego is like I'm fighting with my homies. I used to I used to ask my homies like, bro, I got money, man, let me get in on the dope hustle. Let me get me, you know, let me get down. I think it's like Nick, if I ever see you selling dope, I'm sucking you up like forever, like literally, like my boy explained to me one day, he said, man, you get us into places we can't never get into in life. You take this place we could never go. He's like, we need you to be you. We got this other thing. We're doing this, he doing that. We don't need you to do we do we we need you to do what you do. And once I realized that, I was like, Okay, like I'm not punking out because I'm not fighting every battle with the homies, but they're like, we need we don't need you as a soldier, like you're not that he even chosen to do some So even if it was like like, um, it was a fight one night, I had nothing to do with me, nothing to do with nobody I'm with, and the fight break out. You know, my crew, we we we used to like the scatter. We don't really like staying in the pack. So we split up, act like winning together. Whatever you do. Get two of ye all over the arey'all, we're just cool. And the dude walk up. He's like, the fight's going down way away from me. He's like, made too short you okay, and my homies said, bro back up, he said, Now I'm just trying to see that was it. He could get no more words. He was sleep And it's just that's just how we get down. It was like like we just we're trying to get home. That's the only thing we say. Let's get home. Then you feel like everybody took care of you because you took care of them too. Yeah, I I gave it back and I didn't never have to get extorted or you know what I'm saying, when nobody bullying me and nothing I gave back, Like naturally, I know what I got from Oakland. I know what I got. I got everything. So I'm like any given time, I knew who to look for, who to have put in wet position. And it just it's politics, man. No, none of the rep game unexpanded, like its like the young needs getting different bad day. Yeah, and I think they just a little too involved with you know, the o gs before me, they would be telling you like you can't let everybody know what you got. What I'm saying, like bragging is with social media is a big thing now and I never I never really like condone that really like just just bragging, you know what, I'm saying the shows like like see back back in the day, the shows could be like if you was getting fitted dollars like the biggest artists. Now these needs getting like a half of me and me and all of them shows. I know. But then the dudes before me didn't get what we at. We come in and late eighties, early nineties we upped it up. We in the arenas and stuff, and you know, it just kept elevator. I feel like, you gotta you gotta be a trailblazer. You gotta open doors for the next ones. Like, I don't know what's what's next after these guys. These guys are opening doors for something that's next. What is that is? It? Is it work? Pretty? I mean, I don't know, got an athlete contract? Yeah so yeah. But so it's like I played my part. If if I saw I had six platinum albums in a row, if I did that right now, you know what I mean that the value of that would be way more than what I got. You know what I mean, like what what I could do as as six platinums in the row. I was very popular, but not there was not one corporation that was like, let's take this popularity and use him as a as doors product, like they didn't want no parts of us, Like they barely wanted to let us in the arenas even though we could sell them out. They're like, man, don't let them duce up in there. Like we couldn't even get the tours. They was making up ship like the insurances too much, all this stuff, so uh to see where it's at right now, it's a blessing. I'm I'm celebrating for the young homies. I'm like, man, get that bag like one song when I get big. We're your favorite new artists, Like I mean, your favorite current artist. I never could really like endorse new guys. You gotta stick around for a couple of albums, a couple of years. I'm gonna name out of somebody that they say you you influenced a lot though, And that's Larry June. Yeah. A lot of people say Larry June from from from the Bay. Yeah, I see Larry June. I'm like some like the biggest Bay artist. I'm like a love of music man, blah blah blah. He's like Bryce to pitch your house. I was five years old. Oh, y'all knew each other his family is my family, you know, like his his people's is my people. Like so it's like his mom and them. They you know, Oakland and small man. The Bay is small and you kind of like a generation. So we all connected. So I'm connected to his older and make sense not How do you think the music scene in the Bay was affected by the death of mc dre Well. Mc dra went out like a murder, you know, I mean he was like, he's the guy. So you had you got too short forty everybody's gonna say, man, they wanted to set it off and then um and then you got mac dre and keep the sneak. And they came along and they just you know, took all the youngsters and just whipped them in a frenzy. And the HiFi movement and you know, when mc drake got killed, it was like uh Martin Luther King in the Bay, you know what I mean? It was it was that would you compare it almost similar to like how when Nipsey got killed to Los Angeles. It's the same thing. It's the same Biggie pock. It's the same loss. And I mean they stole his head stone. They mean people people like to this day in the Bay to this day, if you put on any of those Drake classics, I mean they go crazy. It's like like I'm the first one to do it, multi platinum, all that forty come along. He just like like I mean, he's just like songs like sprinkle Me and say ooh. He just like like I'm I'm phoo, like I'm here. But Matt dre was like he was like the people's chap, like he he never sold records like me and forty, but he was the people's chap like you, I could personally go to the Bay the O G and I say something bad about Mac dra I'll be in a fight out there, like maybe like O G. I love you, but you're just bad talking. That's how much they love that brother. So that that his thing that he did though he was he touched the people like he was the guy who danced in the streets with him. You know, he was that character that they said, I see he's right there, you know what I mean, real dra Hose Drake went to the pin you know, with the with the with the joa, with the bank robbers. It was like that's our guy, you know, I'm the O G. I'm like I was on before all of them. So it was like, like my man missed the fab say. He always tell them. He like, man, that's gonna take. He's like to take you about eight times to meet too short before he really knows who you are. So the first seven times, I'm like, what's up on me? Like, like I met you for the first time. We didn't met six times already, I've been there with you, but I specially like thirty times you finally got it like on number thirty. No, but back to the what what artists that you if you could have to say, like I funk with that little artist that which wanted to be let's just put them in the category. You can tell me who they are. So they come in the game and they go, they blow up, and we like the music first time around. You see that so many times. Second time around, it's really hard the second time to capture it. But I feel like once you get that house and that money and ship change and you ain't gotta stand on the corner no more, I feel like it gets harder to say, like like take a young Jeezy. That's one of my favorites and his rap style. So when he got to the fourth and the fifth album, he was still bringing it. That's hard to do to still bring that and to bring that, to be convincing, to satisfy your fans, and to be sitting in the big house with the baddest chick. She she all on you, the video game or whatever. The blunts is flowing like water. It's hard to maintain in that situation. So I just feel like, if you can string it together for some years, man, and you could, you could make good music, good shows, satisfy the crowd. You know your audience is loving you that. Those are my favorite. It's so hard to do it sounds it sounds like we like think about all of our rappers over the years and like I love that song where is He? What happened? Like? But how did you do it? Um? I'm I care a lot of my credit to like my first cousins and my homies because um, at the moment in time, the big head is what throws you off when you get the big head. So you've got the people around you, it's like, you know, like you Gottam, you got a rap name, but then you got the other name that the your real name, your real nickname, them the people that are supposed to keep you grounded. And if you get the big head when you start going, man, I always look at rappers like this, something like so and so just stepped up fire his whole crew. That's always a bad sign when you get back, when you get rid of the people you came up with. I'm like, you don't understand. It's not it's not you, Like too Short has never been just me. Too Short is all of Oakland. It's my whole crew, it's my family. Like, it's a lot of elements to what makes too Short. I don't when I sit around, I'll tell you, like a crazy story. I'm in a song. I might be telling you my homeboy story and I'm saying like I needed them needed to be at that Domino table and hear the ships talking, I'm like, that's them songs. So um when you when you shake the crew and the ship don't work, it ain't no going back across that bridge. Man, you're burning bridges. I just think my favorite rappers are the ones like the t I s. You know what I'm saying. And when you say young rappers, they ain't really got that level yet of of show improve you know, so I'm just I'm just waiting, like like I used to have my I old future, and I'm like I want to know because I know him before. I'm like, I wanted this, he gonna make it, And he made it. He made it over the second album, third album, saying like and you watch him like I get really proud when they get over the hump, and I'm like, Okay, figure it out. And I look at you. You're rolling up with the fifty man entourage people and you're employing people and stuff. Once you start, your bag is big enough to pay other people. I'm like, now you're doing it right, you know what I'm saying. Then something then you get the offspring. You're like everybody we like, we like trees. All of us are like trees. And everything that you create from your tree is another one of your branches, you know what I'm saying. And you take um take a tree like Easy. Let's take away Easy and who was his tree? Branches? Dr Dre you know ice C and then Dre branch off the Snoop dog em and them said like like but if with all that happened, if Easy didn't sell dope and flippers dope and by studio and produce an album and hook up Dr Drake. What I mean, what do we get? Like? What is your tree? What not? Just you? What do you? What are you gonna branch out to be? So that's a good question. Those are my favorite rappers in the Bible for my niggas, like my youngsters who are going to turn into tree branch trees and and the branches. And then my favorite rapper, what's gonna come from you? Yeah? So, and you can't figure that out on your first album. You can't figure out off the first two or three times out. You gotta stick around. You gotta go through some some some stuff. They gotta push you and test you. You gotta you know, can you can you? Can you blow up? Fall the funk off and blow back up again? Can you do that? Because that's what's that's longevity. I I didn't stay on always like it was. It was times. Man, he's sitting there trying to figure it out. You gotta figure that out. So let me ask you this um, just going back to something you were saying where you were just speaking on about how basically Oakland gave you everything, so you gave back Oakland. Have you ever had to deal with somebody that you've given back to that didn't reciprocate that giveback or that didn't appreciate it and kind of flip the script on you. Uh. I've had a lot of politics in my life, and I just think that I got those good people around me and we just deal with everything hit on and Yeah, I've had I've had yeah, you know, bite the hand that feeds you situations. Yeah, I've had that. I've had people who I helped out in a major way. I didn't really like manager right to help, and then they come back and help again. I'm like, ain't no more help and they get mad. I'm like, bro, that was the that was the one time it hit. I hit you. You're supposed to get out and you didn't get down. So um. But I also have I'm not gonna drop names I have. I have people that like I have people that's like, man, I just just point me in somebody's direction, somebody that you don't like. I'm like, it's cool right now. So you know, it's like a lot of people know, people have found out that I did some really good favorites for some really powerful people, and you know, and never got a favor in return, and they're like, let me know when. So a lot of people know like like just leave do it alone, because like when, because when you come at him and don't just be him getting back at you. They come from everywhere, Like I got I'm I'm in the Gangster Network and I don't know if you know about it, but it's it's nation wide, worldwide. I'm in on the network. So how does that? I mean, like, so when you when you're dealing with those people that don't reciprocate properly how they're supposed to, how do you prevent that from like internally affecting your mental as far as you wanting to do something for other people? You see what I'm saying, does how do you prevent that from making you not want to stop doing? Because the game is a thing. It's not this game you run on people. The game is an entity. It's a thing. It's this knowledge that you have, it's the way you roll, it's where you fit in you and your game. And I think that when you try to give it to somebody, you're giving it to them because you think they're worthy of it. So when you find out that person not worthing. You give it to the ones who just keep giving it. You don't stop giving. Like I'm a giver, so you don't stop. You don't stop giving just because that person messed it up like a O. These things ain't doing no more. It ain't like that. It's like like you cut that part off and then you move on to this part, and I just don't even think about it anymore because I believe that this thing, when when you get it and you figured out you gotta share it, you don't you don't deserve You don't deserve it if you don't share it. Yeah, I feel the same way. I feel the same way. So that's the blessings because um, little things, I mean little things from just a moment of time and a little bit of advice, uh just um actual help, like stepping stones in somebody's life. These levels that we go to, like the little guy. I've been around a long time. The little guy always seems to blow up bigger than you. And it's like a lot of people in our industry have a tendency to shoot on the little It's a natural fucking thing. It's like, get my thing to it. You just treat them bad like you ain't. You ain't up here with us, But you don't realize that they remember that ship. And if you've been a good if you've been a good energy throughout this ship, like ship come back at least expected, at least expect like you. You'd be in a situation where you might be needing a financial play and one of your little homies that blew up like I got you. You might be somewhere outnumbered in a situation somebody roll about the blue go, but you have the problem. I'll make you good. It weird like dam I didn't even know, Like, yeah, so same thing. You could have shipped on them, but you didn't, and now they're saving you exactly. So I just I just think you gotta treat everybody in the same You gotta you gotta respect, disrespect the people that that earned it, that that deserve it. But outside of that, respect people up and to the point where they don't just earn your respect. Yeah, exactly. One milestone in your career. You you you were you were the first rapper to retired. You're retired, right, So the two things I guess I ask is what sparked that retirement? And then on the On the other end, there were people that said what the retirement might have been, like a marketing moll, could you elaborate a little bit on the two short retirement and coming out of the retirement. It was both On the inside, it was the most publicity I got for free outside of UM. The only thing that that might have topped that was TMZ got me running from the police. That that that might have been really good free press too. But so I was thirty years old, I had I was releasing my tenth album, and I'm like, on these numbers, I'm like were talking in if you was a thirties something, you're a rapper. It went like this and that, oh that's Nick is still rapping like it was it was like thirty something. He was like an O O G O G. And I just decided, like it was the numbers. I like ten albums, all of them platinum, gold, I'm turning thirty, I retired, I quit, I'm walking away from the game. And it sounded real good. But then I dropped the album and reality said it and it's like if the album was getting an album number ten, And that's when they started like renegotiating, don't you want this stop. My phone start blowing up. They're like, oh, you're gonna retire. Uh? Can I get you on a song and start doing all these features and stuff. I'm like, man, giving this up. It was still on the car, man, I ain't. So you know. I came back with the next album is called Can't Stay Away, and I'm like, man, my first album, the first time they ever put me in the studio, I'm making an out and they said, what you wanna name the album? I'm thinking, like women Now, I'm like, name it. Don't stop rapping? Like why that? I'm like, because I ain't gonna never stop rapping. So so that's my that's my career theme is don't stop rapping. I just turned fifty six and I'm still fucking rapping and I'm about to do a sold out show tonight and the next night and the next weekend, and I'm like, the wheels ain't falling and fell off yet. So let's roll. Ye had your first child or your daughter at fifty two? Yep, fifty two, and I was going, first kid, you've been with your wife for twenty two years, You've been on it, You've been on Wikipedia. That's a lie. That is hilarious. So somebody on Wikipedia, somebody on Wikipedia, keep well, I didn't have this deleted a hundred times and keep putting it back up that I read it to. I try to research it myself. It was a wife. It's on a couple of other websites. It's like I tucked her away somewhere in New Mexico and she got a bunch of babies, and uh, they'd be saying like names like Esperanza. So I've seen name like Erica or something, and then then they're putting like I've seen one where they like got this name and the story, but then the pictures goopolade and I'm like, she from Oakland. I'm like, you know we're married, right, It's just uh, I don't know, Like I don't know why they would do that. I've never been married, never beeny gays, never never lying. I've only in my life twice even had like a living like girlfriend, Like I I'm care of that ship, like for real, like it's it's it's um, what frightens you about it? Because of the lifestyle. I chose a certain lifestyle the young age. I wanted to have fun. I wanted all right, let me let me give you a story. First tour I ever went on, straight out of Compton tour. I swear to god, I was in love with my girlfriend. I wouldn't even bite my tongue and hesitating. So I was in love. And the flight was booked. Tours booked. First stop was Nashville. I'll kiss my girlfriend. I love you, baby. Uh you know I'm calling you every day all day. As soon as the fucking plane touchdown, I never talked to her ever again, never again, like I never soon the plane says, I started having fun. I was like, I wasn't trying to dog her and nothing. I was just like, that would be so unfair to keep her in this, would it be? Would you can there that self sabotage? Yeah, But I'm the part of the point I'm saying is Okay, I'll meet you, fall in love with you. We're hanging out a month or two and I'm like, okay, here I'm at this ship and now I'm like, i gotta say, look, I love you, but I can't be in love. I can't do this because I'm not I'm not gonna be with just you. I'm never gonna be around and I just I used to just keep it real, you like, and they're like, but I want to be you. I'm like, but you understand what being with me is. It ain't cool. I'm telling you right now, I'm not cool. And I just leave it at that. So I'm like, I used to get difficult. I had this one safety mechanism where I was just coming to door going They're like, well, you know, I like you a little bit, you seeing anybody. I'm like, yeah, I got a girlfriend, but I'm I'm lying, I don't really have a girlfriend. And like, you got a girlfriend, get it. I'm like, but she don't live out here. She lives in another city. So that would be my safety mechanism for like not getting to attach ye get involved with her and if you ever see me somewhere, like, what are you doing? Who was that? I told you I had a girlfriend when I met you, Like, it just was all these different safety mechanisms, and I just I love falling in love. I just didn't like being in love. That I'm just saying. But a lot of niggas will stay in the relationship and drag her through it, have kids with her, she living there, and n is just living life and I'm like, I didn't want to do that to anybody. So at that point, I never let that get into my life, and so you never you never goddamn taking one a biss be like okay, well queen, we should we be trying not to call them bitches so much. We got two short hells right when they'd be like, well, I'm willing to take whatever come with you. Yeall had that that scares me to like, like, like, Nigi, you could do whatever you want, just don't bring nothing home. I'm scary, Like what the fun you're gonna be doing? Yeah, you know what I'm saying. I got the green light like like you on yellow red with you on. So that scared me too, So I didn't I didn't like that one. Uh but I did have a lot of fun in Atlanta because I used to find a figure that the the best the best best friend was always like a girl that like girls, that's the best best friend. So it's like instead of hanging out with a bunch of the homies, I would hang out with a bunch of girls and I'd be like, you know, chicks did like chicks, And I'm like it just makes life easier, you know, like, it's just like we're competing for the same thing. You know, girls get girls way easier than dudes. Dude, And it was fun. It was fun. Man. I was spoiled out here. Man. I got to the point out here where I was like one girl, like I'm going home only I can only get one girl tonight, a boy myself. I'm like, if unless there's two and more, I'm not doing it. I was like that for a long time. That's probably why I moved away from here, because it was I was doing. I was doing too much. So what made you decide to have a kid. I didn't decide, it happened. What I decided was I must stop trying to not have kids. So it got to a point where I had a really bad experience at a young age. And I've told the story a few times, not a lot, but I had a really bad experience where, um, I had I had a girlfriend in high school, got pregnant, shot abortion. Uh that that kid would have been like that in four years old, now something. Um, I had another girlfriend when I got out of high school that got pregnant, shout an abortion. And then I I got a third girlfriend pregnant and we talked about it, and she's like, she said, the only way I have this baby is if we get married. I'm like, whoa, we ain't getting married. And she's like, well, I'm not having no baby. And I went with her to the place and they called me in the room. There's like she she needs you. So I go in this room while it's it is going down. It's like these noises and stuff, and and I'm I'm trying not to look, but I messed up and I looked and I could never erase what I saw. Uh I was. We left. She was like major depressed. She wouldn't talk for days. And then my birthday came around and and my girlfriend just cried all like hours and hours and hours, and I finally got her to stop crying and just say what's wrong. And she said, this has messed me up for life? This why had no kid? She said, um, she said, I didn't want to have an abortion. I just wanted you to say that you didn't want me to have an abortion. And she said it's your birth the reason why she was crying. She said, your birthday and the only birthday present I was a half for you. I was gonna tell you I was pregnant with your son, and I just took all that like like like I was trying to do the right thing. Like she's like, I don't want to get married, and I'm like, I don't want to get married, but we can't have this baby. I'm sitting there trying to do the right man thing and she's like, I just wanted you all when he was driving up, walking up, I just want you to stay. Don't do it. And I didn't say it. And after that that was that was the end of my like just you know, I think to make a baby, you gotta like do it, do it, do it, and then when you come you gotta let go and just fall and just let it go and just sink in and just marinate. And you know what I'm saying, that's I don't know if that's true, but I thought that in my mind. I was like, you gotta fall and relax and stay in there. That's what I didn't do until I was That's what I didn't do. I didn't fall and relax and I'll jump out and run away. And I had many arguments like why you keep doing that? And I just I'm a point. How there's anything that's but you're not. You're not getting this. So if it wasn't strapped, then it was I was. It was all over the room anywhere, but in there it was. I think if I haven't had therapy, but if I did have therapy, I think it's it's some other things in there and you need to go get that done. But I'm gonna tell you, like, my daughter is very therapeutic to all of that stuff. All of that, all of those dysfunctional things that I was believing and stuff. I think she kind of got rid of a lot of that. So now I'm like, I'm a granddaddy daddy. That's what I call it. Because all by homies a granddaddy's and their kids are their grandkids are the same age as my kids. So I called myself I'm a grandaddy daddy, which you know, Grant, when you're a grandfather, you treat your grandkids better than you treated your own kids because you're like, you're a better father at this time. Write me, so you know, I'm I feel like I'm being a late bloomer as a father is a is a blessing for a guy like me. I don't think I would have did it right at a young age. I think I would have these uh really just functional relationships with my kids that my older kids that I would have had. And I'm kind of glad I didn't do it because I'm I would have been a bad person. What type of you think you're gonna have the in stealing to your daughter so she won't make it wrong. I'm gonna do like I did everybody else. Just give it a game, do run with it. Run with it. It's the game you could. You know, it will set you free, but it also it also turned around and bite you. But it's like, what's some ship that you like to do, like when you're not being too short that you enjoy or you know what I'm saying that you like like getting done like activities or you know what I'm saying anything like that. Like I'm just a social guy. Man, I'm a social guy. I do anything that we can do as a group and go out and kicking. I don't care if it's bowling, go to top golf, I don't care what it is. We go, we can go, get on the water, jet skids. I was zip line. I never zip line, but I feel like zip line in Hawaii is in my near future. That's one of the things. It's funny you said, because that's one of the things that I've always been saying, like, bro, I gotta do this, and I just ain't never been the right place right trying to do it. And I don't want to do it like indoors somewhere. I want to be outdoors. If you falla dudes don't go to coast to Rica to zip line what they go phone, I asked me, you know what they go for. Stop playing We're not get big. Is there any lyric a song of verse you would take back? Like, oh man, I mean so certain words like change the meaning chains over the years to get a little a little political. Um, you know, you have a lyrics that would be too much for today's So I said some things that you know, but I mean, but a large part of what I was doing was like it was like shock rap, you know. I was saying, I was writing this stuff down like I'm writing a song and I'm writing the punch lines before i even write the song. So I'm like, I'm gonna say, uh she she uh she choked on Sperman the windpipe and died. That's that was that's the punch line. So then I write, I wrote a song called blow Joe Betty, and I'm like, I know the end of the song she's gonna choke on the sperm and died and now I have to figure out how she got to that. And it's just it's funny, you know. So do the words were sensitive? No for like for like rapping comedians and all this ship Like no, Like I feel bad for the comedians, man, because that's that's like you're letting that loose of the audience member or on the topic, was like, that's that's what comedy is. Now a comedian can't say the stuff they're supposed to say, the stuff we can't say, and now they can't say it. So, you know, rappers were in that category to you think the council culture would have got a hold of you back in the day if if it was now now the council people and yeah, yeah, I don't think they would even let a too short get in the game because I was damn, I'm like, I dropped the bitch, I beat the bitch up and dropped traffic Kaiser like she was in the trunk of the car. Like they're like get rid of this. You got to go. You had to keep it independent. Yeah, man, I said some stuff, but you know, like I said, the balance, the balance of too Short has always been the humor, like like making funny, like really just say that, like making funny. And I have a very special way of wording like negative things about women. Every time I say something negative about a woman, a woman, I say her, So I say I'm talking about her. So you're listening, I'm not talking about you, You're talking about her. And you're like, yeah, I know. Bits like that because so it always it never falls on you. Yeah, it's not in general. Yeah, it's just you know, and then you know, you gotta in real life. You gotta realize, um, that all women aren't bitches like you. When you like, I'm not a bitching up. You you claiming that you know what I'm saying, like, that's my bitch. You're claiming that she's she's Yeah, that's my business exactly. But you know when when that ship don't apply, well that that word to get getting nigga sucked up? You know what I mean? Which Almo song you think made the biggest impact in your career? Though? Um, life is too short, so the most it's the only one I got this double platinum. I um blow the Whistle is the impactful song I haven't made. I made that when I was forty years old. Album NUM was sixteen um like mainstream, but I think I think it probably was the most pivotal album for what I was doing, like it it was musically it's my favorite album because we have been doing some stuff up until that point that we perfected on that album. And then I turned a corner after that album where it wasn't the same production crew anymore, and you could tell, you could tell I never captured that sound again, like that's the classic too short sound from like Born to mac to like getting it that's too short. And then I was doing you know, I went to other places and other things and extended the career with the help of Little John and Jazz Faye, and you know, start doing different stuff Little John style. Little John took me out the trunk of the car and put me in the club. And uh, I think him for that, because I was never trying to make club songs until I got with him. And then all and then there's people now they go, man, you here two shorts make two shots, make the music gonna shake your ass. I'm like, it really wasn't me at first, but I learned how to do it for real. What features you see yourself in twenty two doing? Like if you could call out a feature that you want to do, who would it be? Right now, I'm trying to get out with a big seane because you know with you trade like that, um um, you would have killed I don't funk with you. He told the story that he was he was on the fence, he was gonna call me. Then he then didn't switch to forty. But I mean he did the right He did the right things happing into the bay for that one. I started to do a remix for that song that that was called It's Not Too Late. It was it was kind of corny. Concept was kind of corny, but it came across my mind. I was gonna do a song called I Do Funk with You, and it was it was about the bitches, like I really do funk with you. Ris Like like when they say we don't love him hosts, I'm like, we love the host They get the money right. We got this ship called Big Fast Friday Tool. We just talked about this random life stuff. So what would you say to a homeboy or a man if he unless use the term going out sad by the female, like like basically not the player of the pen, but he on the other side of it, Like maybe he's giving them money, she's taking it to somebody else or whatever. But this is one of your people. Like what would you do to try to maybe I don't know the word, to save him, or would you try to intervene or would you just mind your If I say, my homie has been like a super trick in a situation going outside going out sad? What do we say in Oakland ship? Because that's just like some like it's not a lot of sympathy for bitchass niggers, you know, like it's just not a lot. But this is your partner though he just caught one female that just sunking with his brain and this is not the player. Yeah, I'm trying to I'm trying to think, how you saw so you just let him go drown You post a second before that happens, not after the should happen. You can't come back from that ship. I'm trying to think because I just I have no sympathy. I'm like, I'm just like like a bit like like literally like as a dude, I don't have no feelings for your feelings. You know what I'm saying. And like Nigga like we actually you know what we're gonna do. I don't know what we're gonna do. We're gonna tell fucking jokes in your face to you, to you cry some more and to you. Fucking the jokes is funny to YouTube, like fucking like we I mean we it's go get real intense, like we was on the tour bus. On the tour bus, you can't run, you can't. We're on the bus and you got your heartbroke last year. That ship coming up like member, oh girl, didn't you last year? I mean we're running that for like hours, like Nigga, I didn't have to home me to dig into me, like I'm like like wiping a tear. Niggas laughing so hard that she's like damn, like damn, I got me. I fell in love and niggas called me Shorty to lover, like I got an album called My album was called Shorty the Pimp. Niggs called me Shorty to lover for like a year like me, ain't shorty to pimp mean I bore me out? You still let it? Uh what album? So you're about to put out album? What number is this? I forgot lost County. I felt like it's twenty something like low twenties. But I lost count because it was album number sixteen, and I remember sixteen that was getting it out and that was the Born Blow the Whistle album. But I can't I lost County after that because I don't know, I stopped giving the fun I just noticed about them. I'm in the studio to three days a week. Um. During the quarantine, I did a lot, Like I recorded fifty songs with Cube and E forty and Snoop Dogg. We got fifty unreleased uh My Westmore songs. Me personally, during that quarantine, I probably knocked out about sixties seventies songs. That's just like you know, in the can. Since then, I'm in there like two or three days a week. I go in there and just mess around and you know, put you know, fix with songs up and ask some stuff. I do a lot of verses for other people. I feel like that's you know, that's a big part of longevity. But is uh, you know, doing like local songs for people somewhere in Indiana and Michigan somewhere, and you're like that song might only be in that hood, but you're famous in that one hood. And I do UM. I just feel like um, I feel like a jazz musician, like a blues singer right now. I feel like for hip hop. If you get to be like my age and you say something like, well, man, I'm in my fifties, Man I can't rap no more, then you you're putting a limit on hip hop. And where was the limit on jazz? Could have asked musicians blow that horning and and and play with his band? He was seventy eight years old. How old was bb King when he stopped playing? I think he died he was still playing. You know what I'm saying, like, like, when when is it? When is it too old for a blue singer? What about a nique who never had no success trying to be steal me? That is a good one. The rapper who's still trying to get his first hit, been doing it since he was twenty five and forty and still ain't caught a hit. I'm like, I just I really feel bad about that situation because you gotta and unless you're doing it for a hobby and you're like freestyle battles and you're like, you know, open mike and you're like you're like recording and listen to it yourself, and let's let your friends here. If you ain't got like a little bit of dust, a little fan base, a little like like because what if there was one studio session away from that hit though it don't happen. It's rare, but it don't happen, and the see people catch your name thirties Yeah, yeah, but you know, um, it's just it's not it's not. It's it's sad to have a person, you know, continuously keep making records and every time to hear play, you like, maybe it's gonna be in his whack again, Like I'm talking to whack, Like can't nobody listen to a whack like ears bleeding whack? And then you can't even tell a person like that like, bro, you just ain't got it because they don't. So I feel bad in that situation, man, Like it ain't for everybody, Man Like, this ain't for everybody, like like even like I feel the same way about producers it's some dudes have been sliding me beats for fifteen years. Ain't slip me one dope beat? Hid. I'm like, bro, like, you're not good at this, Like like but like you said, you could catch a hip I don't know, it's been. It's been many of rap records that were big records that I first heard was like that's whack, and it actually grows on me later like that. I don't even like that at first, but I give that the hip hop. But the old dudes trying to break in the game as that's that's kind of funny. Man's kind of funny being a little showcase and all those little young homies come out rapping in this one old dude come out. He's got the flow. It's all serious, but like, right, you're not gonna make it. They're not letting you in the game. It's like a party. Some people just can't get in. Some people. So let me ask you this, what other things are you into or what like other ship do you have going on outside of the music that generates you income and that you're like pretty much setting up for the longevity for you and your daughter and the rest of your family. I mean, the merchant is good. I'm from California and marijuana is making a lot of money. I'm I'm dabbling in all that stuff. I'm definitely um, you know, seeking like um, some someplace to land with the two short story, could be the documentary, a documentary, we're going the movie, We're going for the episodes, We're going for the Greatest three Seasons. We're doing something, We're doing something. So all that's there. UM, definitely um getting into like you know, like what what can you do if rap ain't making your money? Have you ever touched on real estate or anything not necessarily real estate to make money, but like putting money in places and getting money back. I'm into that thing like, um, like, my guys, is just now really like getting me to get deep into like the whole little startup investments and then you know, just flip flipping the money, let the money, let the money make money. You see all that money made off ring. So I mean, I'm in a situation now where I'm kind of like being educated on something that I feel like we all should get at at a young age. I feel really bad that I didn't get at it a long time ago. And it's just like you. We always think like, how what can I do to make money? But then when you get the money, what can the money do to make money? That's a whole different thing that we don't think about because we're programmed and as you know, it's young and dumb and something you're supposed to do. Damn if he was young and smart, you know what I mean, Like, we're programmed to get this ship right here, we gotta go get this ship. I'm like, I look at them chains and I'm adding up. I'm like, this nag got on five ninety thollar chains. He could have put that money to work, you know what I'm saying. The car costs uh three hundred, you know what I'm saying, And it just ain't adding up like to what you could have did with that money. And I'm like, gotta be young and dumb though, But young and dumb has one major flaw. If that's the only bag you're gonna get, yeah, you're sucked up because you know I can I can sit here and say I sucked off the first bag. In the second bag, but they went back at it and at some point, if you were smart, you know what I'm saying, Like, look at athletes. There's some smart athletes that didn't really get into the cars and houses in Multiple city and he knew they was only gonna play for five years and kept that money and put it to work. But it's I don't mother. She's like, I know, I've seen this think and make eighty million as he broke, So you know that's that's uh, that's something that Hip Hop jay Z's album with all the Wisdom, it was like it was like the O G spen to the young Homie, But I don't think it really resonated on how serious he was. You want to get to where I'm at, like he was telling you. But you know what I'm saying, you kind of still like jamming and we still I'm just saying, bro, if you're smart. If you're smart, that's I didn't do it. But if you put that young money to work, you later on in life you would be like, okay, wealthy. Like if you had like some last final closing words to say to the people about too short and your legacy, everything you have going on, whatever you have coming up, what would it be? All of the big facts viewers and big facts work. Don't get mad if you find out I fucked your mama. I'm just jugging. That's that's my that's your mama. Was that freak nick Natti folk. She was probably a victim. Probably your mama used to work at Nicki's v I she was probably you know. I just I just think UM, the the the generational separation, the age is UM in hip hop's kind of stupid because for one, you're O G and you're looking at these acts sliding the game. They're getting money, that got hit records. You see it, and you're going that ship is trash? How's it trash? If just think it's making all this money and all these people like what he's doing, How is that trash? Because when I was the young nigger, they said this was trash, and I knew what the value of it was, and I knew people loved it. And then you just hating on them because it's different than what you did. You ain't he like man, he ain't spitting bars like well, I talked to the young homies, they said, he's spitting bars. I was, I was gonna room for everybody that knew young thug lyrics. I was only get the room. They didn't know the lyrics. I couldn't hear what you're saying, and they all seen it. I like, y'all hear what he's saying. It's like yeah, And I'm like, I'm not hating on it, but I'm like, my ear can't hear the words, but they all knew it. Something like I see the value in it. I see it. I see I see that Nigga put up with a fleet of rolls. Racist you know what I'm saying. This quality so on the flip side, then the young homies, the ogs make the young homies man, they're like, man, these old olds out the way. I just say to the young homie because I'm different in the other o g s. I'm like, Nigga, you wish you could walk out on the stage and fifty six years old and the crowd you sold out and they pay you fifty Now, you wish at the age of twice your life from now, you'll still be getting money doing what you're doing right now. You wish. And I just think the age is in hip hop is it's dumb as funk like it. You don't You don't gotta listen to my music if you're nineteen years old, I don't gotta listen to your music if you're a nineteen year old artist. But respect is a different, different thing, Like I respect your hustle, and I think some of the O g s don't respect the young homies hustle. They're looking at it like your flow whack. But then the young homies, you know what I'm saying, some of them don't see that that that thing that it's gonna be a lot of obstacles in your future ship that might get you killed. Shoot, that might stop your bag from coming through. You know what I'm saying a lot of things. You you go in the label and slap the wrong executive, they're gonna shove your ass. You could cut them on the phone. They're gonna shove your ass. And you just don't know what your future might be. So if you do have that in your cards to where ten years into your career they love you, twenty years to your career they love you, that's a blessing. That's not a bad thing to be like it out the way you're gonna wish you you wish you're gonna be an one day you wish. So it's like the agism is dumb to me because both sides the argument. You can't win the argument if you're arguing with me, if you're young Nick trying to tell me how old Nigas is whack or vice versa, you can't win that argument with me because and you're sitting at home and I'm on tour. Yeah, you can't. You can't win. You can't. I'm sit in the room mostly with old dudes trying to explain to me that the new ship is whack, and I'm like, Okay, let's let's dissect it. How's it whack? And then when they when you, when you realize what it beats, they love it. They love it. The beast is go to clubs and look at the reaction and they look at the money they're getting. That the end of the argument, This can't be wacking. Nig is getting mone off as hip hop. We gotta really look at this agees and thing and kind of I feel like agesm in hip hop is the same thing as colorism in modeling and acting. Oh of isms, Yeah, sexism all it's bullshit. Yeah what we're doing scream Sure, appreciate you man for pulling up a big facts. You know what I'm saying. I watched the show a lot. I was looking forward to doing it, man. And because y'all keep my TV on revote in the studio there and uh I see I see a lot of you know, you guys do get interviews. The sha nigs come up here and keep it real. So I was prepared. Yeah there you go. Yeah, we ought to have a legend in the building. Man. Appreciate through short on Big Facts Triple w dot, Big facts pot dot com. You're listening to get big facts with Big Bank and DJ scream. Follow Big Facts on social media Big Facts five five, Big Bang, DJ Scream, bring you big fat Hey man, it's alway up that merch. Yeah that's right. Www Dot Big facts pot dot com. What's the real one one time, y'all get y'all some of this merchant man facts pot dot com. Get that merch right now, shot with us sold away up. Make that merch going down at the new website today www Dot Big factspot dot com is