BIG FACTS with Big Bank & DJ ScreamLil Donald pulls up to Big Facts to break down his new alter ego, the struggles of navigating the music industry, and the lessons he’s learned from street life. He keeps it real about past betrayals, including feeling let down by Future and the challenges of staying true to himself in an industry full of gatekeeping.
From label politics to why he believes real rap is missing from the game, Lil Donald doesn’t hold back. Tap in for another Big Facts exclusive!
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What up, Baby Jay?
What up?
DJ scream? I'm here, welcome in today, Little Donald ak now, Man, we don't know Little Donald for decades. Man, what's the SOS business about? That's what we got to start this conversation.
Oh man, look, Donald is a pretty nice guy. You know, you love the women, You care about everybody, so they don't give them Okay. Yeah, It's like, you know, I was raised in the streets, bro, I grew up in the streets. I grew up in Atlanta, like Herding Holmes. You know, I didn't move around the city. I've been in the city. You feel what I'm saying all my life. You know, it's another side of me that I kind of like here. You feel what I'm saying. Yeah, But one of the ojeez was like telling me, like, hey, Bro, you don't these folks don't even know who you is for real, Like they think you do better? Guy? You feel what I'm saying, which is that's a that's a part of me because they're canceled. But you know, but it's a whole different story. So that with this project and its alter egos.
So just keeping it real. Now, if let's say, like okay, like Uncle Luke at the women. You know, certain artists they got the women. Do you feel like you might sacrifice some of the women coming up with this alter ego that you might scare them away?
Nah? Because good music is good music. I know, Pretty Girl their ride to That's you feel what I'm saying. So they women, if they with you, they with you. Youel what I'm saying. They don't switch up on you. You feel me like women like right now, this album going crazy and it's still seventy five percent women. You feel what I'm saying. So it's like I don't. I don't think it's gonna you know, and I just let they oversaturated the making music for women. Think once I drop Do Better, everybody wanted to make female us. You know, once Do Better took off. Now you see everybody on that female way, everybody dropping female mixtape Female. So it's like all right now the street music. So I don't think it's no good street music got for real like that. So it was like, all right, let me show you boy, they can't rap for real.
You said they can't wrap for.
Real, keeping it real, But it ain't really no good rap music. Your Your music always really had like life struggles in it, right, so what you think so say struggles all same ship struggles. But you know, like showing that I, you know, was in the streets for real. You feel what I'm saying, like even if you just if I just be for real, like I ain't doing this no more, So it don't really matter if I said, but like all do better money came on street money? You like, I made that money in the streets. You feel what I'm saying, huddling it, irving and doing what I did. You feel me? But I never cared for nobody to know it. I was always a smart nigga, Like, but if I'm around with a nine, I ain't nobody being in and call me off of I'm not Finnah, smoke no weed off, have both of my hands on street wheels. I feel his seat betal Like I always moved strategic and smart so that I wouldn't get in trouble, like I stayed out of trouble, and now my partner was getting locked up. I was like, boy, when I get twenty one, my shit legal, So if I shoot somebody, it's in my name. Nigga poll found me in my driveway by I add that bitch out and I called them for like, yeah, man, I ad a bitch out, y'all come on out here. They come out here, get my gun. Hey man, getting my gun back, and gone back their business. But I did that because I knew, like, hey boy, you're gonna have to protect yourself. So if I got to protect myself and I'm a criminal or I'm already always locked up, then what I'm being jail like the rest of evening. Yeah, you're saying basically, if the narrative already drawn in, they gonna get the gun. They gonna take you down to the station. Exactly. If you then already got a record, ain't now you got a legal gun. If you add a nigga, it ain't no out to that. You feel what I'm saying. But you heard the gun shot, neighbor, f the color pop, somebody feel the pull up. It's some type of investigation A gonna I don't gotta do that. Hello, sir, Yeah, I just shot everything got here come out. Yeah, they come, they run my gun. They gonna give my gun back. That what I say. I'm sc y'all. Let you better be. I'm terrified here. Yeah, my life because every time they had me, I feel my life was in ding.
Yeah.
See it was always me. I'm streeked schmark. Like you feel what I'm saying. I didn't did everything that nigga did and got away with it. They go to jail, they make it cool and hey, Boma down the road. Nigga go down the road like they got a nigga. Wait, no more up you neig got a way out? Way, ain't got a way out from that now let's go Jack.
So speaking the ways out, I.
Ain't never no way out my pat I ain't never no no, ain't no page no.
I was just playing, but not just going back to what Scream was saying about, like kind of switching it up and possibly deterring your based crowd or your target demographic. How has the how has the response been.
Like from the women as far as the new project that's concerned. Yeah, they support, they don't playing the music. They posting it, they ride to it. They do everything. Like like I said, the women, bro, like I'm gonna keep it real bro, Like women really like with you, Like that's why like Courtney, who do all my you know, everything for me? Like women, Bro, well you got a strong woman on your team. Man, it's just different. You get what I'm saying when you see see putting this ship together, like while women just go above and beyond. So it's like I got no women. They locked in with me. And then it's like, how I'm gonna do it? It's SoSE gonna give Little Dona. So it's a video I dropped. Well, well, SoSE tired little Dona up. You feel what I'm saying kind of like how yeah, so boom he tied a little Donald up? So what Sosei gonna do? He gonna let little Dona get a microphone in the studio and drop a song here and there. You feel what I'm saying? Right yeah, but right now running and ship because nigga play too much and I don't be really playing with it. And it's like niggas be niggas like took that do better ship to They took it to their head. You know what I'm saying, why why wouldn't you just drain that lane? You feel like I did, though you gotta think about it. Do better? Six years old?
Do you feel like you got everything out of it that you can?
Nah, I'm I'm gonna still give it more, Like you feel what I'm saying. But it's like sometimes you gotta get shit a break and let it read. You feel me like if I date somebody, I tell them like like I love you, I want to be around, but I need some space too. You feel what I'm saying. What's the name of the other song you had? Put it? Yeah? Put out like a couple of songs like that. What's the other one when you had the hotline on the end of the song? What's the name of the song? Not? Do better?
The other one the one about the domestic.
Huh say rule rule work? Oh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. So that I made that song for my daughter. You feel what I'm saying. That was like a song that I made like pertaining to like the rules I want my daughter to follow. You feel me? Because when you got little girls and ship, that ship changed the whole perspective on life. Facts like it makes me don't even like, but I be careful how I date and who like everything, because it's like, but I don't even want to do a woman wrong. And then my daughter get what the fuck calm comes on? Yeah, I believe in that calm and ship. You feel what I'm saying. They just locked the person up for the rough ride to pay, that going around on the real and it's a nigga. What's what run? It's like like.
Like Atlanta World Star gossip page, but they be putting out everything.
Yeah, like just all the all the tea on like all the they lock.
Him up for. He was in the how arguing with a woman or something. She record him like, yeah, he got that rough ride to pay? And I said, oh, this is the nigga who is Nobody don't know.
I thought the nigga behind the page was game Year.
But he with a girl. Man, you know where and how they be up hill, how they be be wiggling in and out. Yeah, man, you see that other ship with the nigga jump off a bridge or so. You ain't see that ship. I know that.
This ship through ship bad man man, this ship twisted and distant man.
Man, jack lines, jacklines.
Get wicked outside real God, real screen twenty five feel different than y'all do feel different?
Yeah, man, this ship the world wide it ship started off? Rough Man, this ship way.
Think what you think it is?
Oh God?
What you what you mean? Hey five? Just the vibe and how I feel.
I think morals then left. You know, I think a lot of people don't have more think they just left. I think it's worse because the young niggas is growing up to you feel what I'm saying. The younger niggas, they don't care. They don't care about nobody. They don't care about nothing. They out here. You just think about it, bro, and let me just put it to you like this, why I think a lot of these niggs go wrong. You getting on all these drawls and you with your homework all day. Y'all, y'all nigga is slipped. What nigga doing. He's saying, you can't find no girls in the ends. To be like these niggas is.
Oh god, Oh man, Bro, these niggas don't draw, so bro, these niggas don't draw, bad boy.
I ain't by listen this ship happening, boy, I see who did it? Just ain't know. I think twenty twenty four is the year.
What's the year.
Revealing?
Of revealing? And I think twenty twenty five is gonna be the year niggas gonna stand on it. Fuck that that kids, my boy. Yeah I'm telling because it's like it's like the Internet that made this ship to Yeah, yeah, see that's what it is. It's like everything has been became like, yeah, you could do that, you could be no comfortble, you could be yourself because it used to be like why you can come out and say that, but you you damn crucified. You feelin that's.
Better better, That's what I'm saying, better than I rather just know the truth.
Keep it real with me though, don't be around me and this is what you got going on, and don't tell me because now you blindsided me and you got people looking at me crazy. Just like like, imagine how shout a whole boy feel that ship that came out by him? You feel what I'm saying, which one it's a lot of that came out about the left, Like imagine how your partners feel like you only I can every crush M. But niggas happen you can't you sign? Yeah, yeah, crazy, You're doing ship like that. It's like, man, you got you gotta count of se so you feel like nigga knew. I ain't gonna just say nigga, nigga, Nigga knew its possible certain ship to come out by certain people. I ain't talking abou him, don't even know him, fuck him, but certain ship to come out by certain people. Bro, you kind of can already see it happening before it even happened.
Like when it comes out, you can be like, yeah, I can go for.
That, Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's not like hell exactly.
Or you go back and you look like damn looking shot on their picture or look at him exactly, but you look, but you kind of overlook because it's your partner or whatever. But like, bro, you can kind of know what kind of kind of no matter what it could be, it could be that way you're telling ship, whatever you count of or a back door or a nigga stole, a thief, a nigga line, you can counting no. Like the wall, see that little situation I had, I've seen that coming. What's situation with the internet ship when I had got it too? A home with me and little on the internet. Oh the comedy knows you're poping right. I ain't believe a nigga was my partner. But it was one of them situations where like I be trying to you know, like when I see niggas moving or a nigga struggle, Like I'd be like, wow, me help this nigga. You feel what I'm saying. But I always kind of sick gets Basically, I kind of sick and guessed it because it's a lot of situations like you feel me, like the situation we had with me and him an at Jacob, you feel what I'm saying that, Or it was a situation in the studio where nigga, uh uh don't or Jacob you feel what I'm saying, and I'm like, damn, you feel what I'm saying. Like but me and Jacob were working on the album and I'm like, damn, why nigga up on Jacob and the nigga made it about me? You feel what I'm saying. So I'm like, you did that. I'm like, damn, it was for me. You feel what I'm saying. Oh them nigga you know you So I'm like, damn, Jacob, I did Jacob too, nigga fuck Jacob too. Like so it's just like I was lashing out off a nigga word and ship and nigga beat.
Nigga was trying to bring me that that sounds like some single white female shit Like yeah.
Like niggas beat. What I've noticed, bro, niggas be tender, like you feel what I'm saying. Niggas be emotional. Yeah, nigga be emotional about niggas, bro, And that blow me. What what y'all get into it about? Tho?
So so y'all got into it or listen. He got into it with Jacob because he said that Jamon.
Saying that was something happened, that was something, So me and him got into it because do Better was a movement and it was like, Bro, when you it's like, I be around a lot of women, and I take care of women, and I treat women with a certain love and respect. Shouty kept going to jail for beating up women. You feel what I'm saying.
So he was basically going against the program exactly.
So I'm like, hey, bro, you can't do that. You feel what I'm saying that because they reaped, so they going on the internet like oh, little Donald you with this nigga and he beat me up and they sending me pictures and videos. So I'm backing away from the nigga, like I can't hang with you no more. Yeah, so Boom, I removed myself so home, kind of get on the internet to make subliminals like hey, what rappers fell off or this? It is like just trying to get people to say my name or just throwing a little shit. So he said something in the DM, and he did respect me in the DM. So when he did respect me in a DM, I said, cool, Could that the type of nigga I are? If if we got an issue, it's it's cool. I ain't got nothing to say. I'm a Henley High Heleney. But he know me. See, I don't give a fuck if everybody will know me, you know me. So he took it to the internet, cause that's the nigga new thing. Oh, I'm gonna get the internet involved. So if something happened, the police gonna know, cause niggas know the police is on social media. You a fool if you don't know the police on Instagram the department for that. Yeah, so boom, so he go pull my Mama Grave on on Instagram. What Yeah, so he told me he pulled my mama grave on Instagram. And see what it was just like fuck your mama or some ship like that. You feel what I'm saying. Yeah, So that's why I got out of character. You feel what I'm saying. That's why I did all that I did because it was like it wasn't it like street ship? You feel what I'm saying. I know you're playing a police game. So now I'm a j embarisha and polled that video you laid up with buddy behind your back he had he was laid with a dude. The dude had it arm around video. I posted the video. I ain't see that. Yeah, I posed where you hit the video from baby Mama. Yeah, I paid it for damn so so so y'all friends where y'all were cool and he did something that tournished my brain and I correct him first. I said, hey, bro, we can't do that.
You feel me.
You gotta strain your favorite that and you can't keep getting in trouble. So I had a bun and nigat jail and didn't know I would bunning him out for being no girl. Look he told me he got us some street ship. You fear me. So I'm like, oh, nigga, I got you, you feel him, get you out? So then he go he he he get mad because you told him about that. Whatever is that? And he said it's under you in the DM first one, yeah, he so he started making posts, so he's subliminal posts at first, and then so I'm saying the subliminal post goever, hey boy, don't do that. Stop playing. You feel what I'm saying, Oh, just one on one yeah, no, not on no social media or nothing. And then I missed her and I called it phone. Hey by, don't do that. Come a direct me. If I got issue with you, I'm gonna hit you. You feel me, Hey bro, don't do that. So he say fuck my dead nephew in the DM, and then he said, I'm gonna make you kill me. That's why he took you to social media. I'm saying, what what what?
What do you?
What do you think? Like made him go that photo niggas already be hanging. Then niggas don't nigga be around for what they can get at you, what they need or hey boy, I need a father figure in my life or some nigga be really looking for a dad or something. Ain't your damn you feel me so so so you didn't bite until he said. I didn't bite until he kept going and posting my mama. And then see, you know I'm from the street, So you got a street nig calling my phone like, hey, bro to hell, it may keep playing. So I was like, man, I ain't getting involved. Nigga didn't even know what I was cooking up. You feel what I'm saying to even say you feel me? Cause I ain't do no explain. So it came out of nowhere for everybody Like niggas who know me know I'm capable of that. But niggas who don't know me, like what the fuck that? Where the whole Soiza shit came from? Cause you're like, all right, let me show you, nigga, this ship ain't nothing to play with for me. So that right now, where is it that fuck that nigga that nigga? See the police got involved, you feel me. See, niggas knew to keep that shit on in there because the police got involved, and because so much ship was going on behind behind the scenes, that ship was happening. You feel what I'm saying. So the police got involved because that's why niggas get on that internet. Yeah, so that's why that's why that ship. Like niggas go on the internet cause nigga know. But I can't nothing be done to me if I'm highlighting this nigga, the nigga go up every other week and remind people that he be with me. You feel what I'm saying now, trying? Yeah, I'm trying to let the ship go. Let it die.
They say, else big, but you're speaking on the platform now because it because get well, nigga can't a nigga can't let it die if a nigga.
Keep on going on about it, So get with So he can't never be fixed? And what part of it that made it whim? You're saying fix for what? Like? It's just nothing? Fuck him? He don't got it. He don't got to see me. I don't want to see him. If he see me and I see him, he don't want to see me. Let's say so, y'all can never be cool? Cool man reading what part? I'm not no refriender like you feel what I'm saying ship, Yeah, I'm not no refriended bro, I'm a nigga. How do you refriend the nigga that crost you? You feel what you think't making across you? The line with your mama Gray, Yeah, like because a nigga know what my mama means and meant to me. You feel what I'm saying. So it's like he said, like I got her. I talked to his nigga on the phone. When when the Big Doug from the hood called me and was like, hey, police involved, God damn, hey boy, you you got to stop now the nigga don y'all from the saying hood. Hell no, nigga ain't from from the Niggah nigga called me and was like, hey boy, you feel me. Nigga Big called me like, hey, you gotta stop. But police say involved. You feel what I'm saying. That's over. You feel what I'm saying. We got on the phone. Then niggas say because he had created some fake ass stories and ship and I'm like, yeah, like why are you going there? I would lose and if something happened to me. But you're going to jail this this screet nigga. This is a screet nigga. You say you're a street nigga, when you tell me if something happened to you, you I'm going to jail. You are ready building the case and not like they'd ass saying this ship and it ain't like I'm loud, got this ship, don't record. He said he was losing. What the situation? He felt like I was winning the Internet beef ship. He said, he felt like I will win it. You feel me? So he was like that why he made the faith like you were messing with a child, and like he created a fake message and everything, photoshop message and everything. Oh so you that's that's when you you putting up the billboards shirt, the T shirt to the junkers, all that what was on t shirt? He faded Surviving team, all the women you beat up. But if you, if you could go back with you do all that ship? Would I do that again? Like all the Internet ship? I don't do the Internet ship. I'm talking about that you had to. That was a situation where I had to because that's his lane. So you don't regret that? Yeah, hell no, I do that ship again? And worse, the police didn't get involved with this.
What a silence done though?
I'm just curious what you think silence would have done if you would have said, I'm gonna just yes, take the sound.
Bro. You can't ignore certain things you feel me when, especially when it kind of disrespect, like it's like, yeah, I ignored it our way up until it's like disrespecting my mama because it's not just my mama, it's my brother them mama. It's niggas from the hood who knew or you feel what I'm saying. It's more than just me that would hurt by that you feel what I'm saying. So it's like niggas looking at me like by you letting me, you just letting me a nigga do this? You feel what I'm saying. D nigga ready to tell a hold in something and I'm stopping them. So they're like, at least you the least you could do is God damn, you feel what I'm saying, say something to him, and I ain't want to take that to him, So I took a whole another route. I'm e for real when it come to disrespect, Like I'm a cool nigga, but disrespect I ain't tolerating that shit from about my mama and nigga and get what I made that nigga lead their page and everything for a long time. Hey, Bro, I ain't playing with no nigga. Bro, Nigga to poly bro damn man, y'all gotta keep that, Bro. I don't be wont no situation like that though. Bro. Its just when you when you help niggas, Bro, it's like it's like niggas to be acting like bitches because it's like it's like you fucking with a bitch and you buy her cars and you doing this and then you stopped. She's like, oh you you act. You feel what I'm saying. So when niggas get to be around your lifestyle and enjoy your lifestyle and then you back away from they doing whole ship, they throw fixed you hearing me like better like ho, like, oh you ain't gonna let me come to the club no more. You ain't like Rod the fuck. I ain't never acted like that about no nigga Bro. For nigga ain't call my phone all day. I'm not gonna say m home. You ain't call me now, see you you you're getting to understanding from from your from your perspective. You see what I'm saying. You have to what we have to do is people we have to put out even though it's hard. We got to put our mind into a nigga mind who can't stand alone. I ain't talking about Due. I'm just saying anybody like his life. It's only important because he did with you, not dude. I don't know what you're just saying. Just people. Some niggas like I had to look at this, like niggas gonna be madter at you when they can't be when they can't have access to you. You know what I'm saying. So nigga matters a motherfucker because now they realize, like Damn, I was only worth something because that nigga was beside me. You know what I'm saying. Facts, So now that ship turned into hate because it's like everybody that that you was worth something to you no longer worse something too, and they like, damn, why you don't falk brother no more? It's like sh I done did something. No niggas won't admit that they do when they do. When the reason why they don't admit that because they be knowing the person that they did certain ship to ain't a nigga. You can even if you're miit it that they ain't gonna fuck with It'll never be the same no more. It's like you got a broken glass, like I ain't gonna fuck with you, nigga, gonna go all the way, fuck this nigga to the depth because you knows that's how you feel. I ain't man that the nigga. You know. I get it though. I look at these niggas like ship bro, I just be like, I be like, Bro, it's a way like that communication. Ship so important because right when you start feeling some type of way, bro, how letting you Because when you go six months and you've been feeling some type of way and then the next thing make you feel another. Now you sit much strong in with that hate in your jem you and now that ship didn't board you up to and bust the vessel. And now you try that ship. You feel what I'm saying, You shok up coc cola. You so and we spilled on me this ship get God damn nah, but man, we like, I ain't trying to be super damn vote for no ship, but I see ship bro. God gonna work on me.
Bro.
I see how niggas can feel some type of way. I get it. Well, I'm just stay away from you, bro, because you're gonna always feel some type of because my character's gonna make you feel some type of way because I'm a I'm a strong opinionated nigga. Like I don't mind telling you like hell Na, Bro, you told or you can't, I don't mind telling you that you could be my friend. Whatever you gotta keep real, I gotta be because I'm gonna go tell Jay. See, I want the type of nigga. If I'm telling one of my partner and I say somebody nigga, I might get off the phone and I gotta call you now and tell you. But I should never said that, Yes it's so, and then then niggas will be mad at you because you'll standing on it. You know what I'm saying, Like like, hey, Bro said you said I did, and you will.
Like what nigga, Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
But it's the truth. Though. See, if I was lying on a nigga, if I lied on you, bro, you can pin me to the cross.
But you know what I learned though, Like in my years of living or whatever, these niggas can't handle the truth.
That's the issue. I get it. If Nigga can't hand the truth, they can't be my friend.
Nigga tried to kill you for their truth because you got to stand in your truth.
Nigga would lot to a lot of theirself and be mad that you know, bring you lying to yourself because I know the truth. Like I don't like how women do not all women. I don't like say. I'm just saying like women, bro, they will believe some ship this like how you believe that but don't believe it? Because when she told her friends, She's like, he ain't go for it. See, I go through that ship all the time though, because I don't never really give a fuck about telling my side of the story a lot of time. Like if you go back to even Pete Brown, if you go back to Pete Brown, like if you look at that situation, bro, motherfucker went around and said I did this, I did it, Bro, That's not true Brown. So so the real situation is what happened with Pete Brown. So I me and Pete Brown ran for years, bro, Like part of my skill come from her. You feel what I'm saying, and I never downplay what Shota did for you. You feel what I'm saying, we got out in these streets and we worked together. But Bro, we pulled up one day to mac Donald's on Keller Road. Nigga, she gave me three contracts. Three one for her for a lady, but one for management, and then one to sign with somebody else. I said, you my dog. So I'm gonna take it, and I'm gonna get it looked at. Even though there's three pieces of paperwork, I'm gonna still go look at it about with Malloy's shout of cusson what the fuck and walked out, left me sitting there. Motherfucker McDonald ont Keller Road walked out. So I'm like, I'm a little calm down. So that night were supposed to be at the club. I pull up to the club. I walk up Pete. She's like, she go out, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you nigga, get out of my face. I'm like the in front of everybody. Bro, I'm like, what the fuck going on? What? What? What? What? What happened? That's where I'm lost that So did you hold on, let me ask you, let me ask you, let me let me play her point of me? Yeah for sure? All right perspective with me, let me ask you something. So do you feel as if though could she have felt as if though, like nigga did all their work. Now you don't want to sign the paperwork. I didn't say I wasn't gonna sign. It's just I wanted to get it's three pieces of country. Do you feel like she felt like you didn't trust me even though you don't trust nobody in visiting exactly, So it's like, but I trust you, but I don't trust their paperwork you got probably eveund have had John John Theo wrote this ship up. I don't know what wrote this ship up? Can I get it looked at? And that was the issue. It was like, no, nigga, if I'm gonna fuck you, let me fuck you. Like, did you look at the did you get the paper A chick did? Yeah? I did. It wasn't it wasn't right, that what I'm saying. So it's like it wasn't right. It was because cause what the thing is is like they don't even be knowing what the paperwork is. So you feel like.
So you feel like the reason that she got so upset and flew off the handle with you because upon your telling her that you would like to get the paperwork inspected. Is that she knew ahead of time something was in it?
I really don't got to your best interest.
I don't know if she knew. And that's the part that I don't know get upset, But she get upset. It's cousin's probably just like some You don't trust me enough to just sign his work. But she ain't finish signed? Is that I'm saying? So that's so? Why so y'all couldn't come to a musical? Oh she was upset though y'all caldn't come. She was up said I even came back years later hit streaked like a Street reached out to Pee Brown, tell her I'm fin center five thousands you feel me, and tell her I'm gonna do a show like free you feel me? This is the height of du Better do better than after.
Did y'all ever talk after that? Or that was still?
She didn't go over there?
Just said funk me. She told Grig Street from that day for grig Street called me like, I don't know what the funk wrong with you? Tried to even do you feel what I'm saying? So you couldn't? You couldn't You couldn't. You couldn't have came back like you know what, Pete, I don't want to sign to the late, but I want you to manage me. I want to Literally went that night at the club and tried to she.
Won with none of us.
She wasn't talking to me. She wouldn't say a word. That was the only words she could say.
But I'm curious, though, I want again perspective. I wonder from her perspective, that has to like, I'm not saying I believe what you're saying. I'm just saying that from her perspective, it has to be something.
It could have been this nigga finally making it and don't want to sign to me no more.
You know, sign signing is a process, though it can be a process. You can get a lawyership.
Give amazed. How many people just see a piece of you been here with them. I have a nigga, had a play for me and a label and come to me and try to sign me before you take me to the player. Mm hmm, nigga, how the hell you gonna come to me with a player and then try to sign me underut That's what happened when you talented for real nigga.
Trying to like my my buddy, my buddy right now to this day, he's a multi million dollar superstar. When he first like started popping and started getting motion and started having away, the nigga had him.
Sign the necking this ship with sickings Joab We listen, bro, I swear to God when I when I first, when I first got poppybread, folks took me around to all the labels bro, a lawyer and in this lady, Bro, they took me around all the label bro, and they sent me a quarter million dollar bill after we feel me, let me ask you this because it was another lady too, and we do better right. Yeah, how the here you keep falling out without let me understand this list see listen a nigga. They got some sense, bro. They don't like your ad. You feel me. You got a little piece of sense and you can piece of ship. See anytime a person there come in your life. In God, God got your back, and God God can't get you. May get your ass out of my favorite they capt man, you count you don't believe in God that much because you're right here trying for this me. And then as soon as we went in there and did the situation. Motherfucker for missing me, and they ain't get a penny of the money you come out with the second lady. Yeah, I can't say they name because they made sure they put it in the paperwork. So what happened with that situation?
So I so boom.
So this makes it even more crazy. I find out that the contract that I supposed to do with with with with what's the name the her people D P. Brown? Oh, the third contract with her people the d the same people. I find this out. So they're the same people. So everybody trying to swindle holda hello, hello, yeah, let's let's let's real. So with Pete Brown, is it is? It? Could Pete Brown think that you cut her out and started dealing with them people I didn't even know them. But because she think that, no hell now, cause them people weren't even involved. I ain't know them people at all in the country. I ain't even have nothing, ain't no no whe in the country. I ain't know the people who was the third piece of paper, none of this ship, ain't no none of this. But they they reached back out, so they came, they came to the event and and and ran into me and through a nigga name Philip bo You feel what I'm saying, Oh g Philipo, ain't know? You don't know? Yeah, yeah, Philipo triple up coat or that. Okay, he put you with him, he put you with them. Yeah, and they end up being some bullship too. What happened? Because you know every let me say that, say that, every artist say that on their way up till they get up. Somebody fucked over there. Now that's every I'm anybody who know me, bro know me for real, Like, but I don't care about no money. I don't care about none of that ship. I love this ship for really. You feel what I'm saying. What happened on so Boom? We go to IFPI, We go to Epic. The dude the deal with with Pluto them she was involved with that, yes, Oh so we go to yeah so yeah, we go to Epic to do the deal with Pluto. We get in the office, this no bullship. They say, hey, we're Finn walk off hollow at them real quick. So her and the baby walk out and they go in there and talk. Wow, I'm in here. We ain't on everybody, So I said okay, foot going on, So I'm already throwing off. I'm like, what the hell? How y'all talking about my ship without like I can't know what's going on?
You know how?
I get effort like you ain't leaving to your side that they don't want you to leave. Yeah, we gotta come up with an understanding. So boom they leave, come back. She pulled me to his side. She said, hey, dog, I ain't got no more money to promote you. I think we should do this deal because I ain't got no more money because I ain't want to do the deal. When they told me two hundred thousands, I said, what I worked in hard, y'all fins, but down two humble man all crazy to here man ready to go home? And so what so what? So? What? How Pluto get involved with it? Pluto? I met with Pluto first. This here the reason I did the deal, because his word and what he said to me, I ain't even I ain't. At that point, it was like, all right, cool, you feel what I'm saying. Pluto saying, i'ma bring y'all at birthday bad, I'm a goddamn who I'm gonna stap y'all. What happened. Man, I pulled up the birthday man. Man let me outside and man let me sit outside, like by the stage. Bro standing out there like, oh ship up, the go up.
You made it in the building.
Yeah, I just you just let me right there. It steps okay.
So I mean.
I like you. So if it you was already, if it was already interested in you before you talk to Pluto. Basically, I think I don't. I think it will Pluto play because he had just did the little situation with effort for his label. Yeah, so I think it will Pluto play. But they probably But you know how to go to label or reach out. When somebody from Atlanta already got a label deal in Atlanta, they reach out to him like, hey, this guy, you know what I'm saying. I think that. I think Casino did that getting with the Casino reached out to me first, like kind of went to Bro like hey, shouted you feel me eat you feel what I'm saying. Casino reached out through one of my baby mamas and got damn hit me like, hey, Casino said, calling my call Casino and Casino said, hey, Bro said, pull up to the studio. Pull up to the studio. Say, hey, bro, you're gonna go You're gonna go out New York tomorrow. You feel what I'm saying, I'm like, all right, cool, But when I heard the deal with the deal war, I'm like, hell no, Like I kind of was when the birthday bad situation you did that just put it a bad taste in your about the whole Free band. It was just it was just I know a nigga got a lot of moving parts on your team and ship, but I don't give a fuck about that. If I give a nigga my word, bron my word you. It was more it was like the Drake ship when he he had the song with Drake, he was like, hey, little bro, go get your passport. I'm gonna fly you out here so you to be in the video. Men, Drake, the way you as that when you feel him, I was in the studio when he first had that ship with when Drake went on it, you feel him. I was saying that motherfucker hunting Meland this too. You feel what I'm saying, nigga, I was fucking with you. So if you tell me you're gonna do something, I go down there, go out of country. But I go get my padport. I gonna sit in the motherfucker padport off it do all that to sit at home and don't stop my kids' conversation about that. Bro, I wish I could find out why niggadven keep, why niggadn't do me right? You feelim? And fuck the nigga Propane leaking the song? Fuck all that the song with me him and boot Propane leaked the song. I guess he thought somebody on my team did you fee what I'm saying? It was a lot with the team ship. But I don't caring about that, Bro. I don't care about the music going wrong. I don't care about the deal not work. I don't care about none of that ship. I care about bro, your word to me. They say.
That big fact.
So basically your main gripe is that you didn't come out on birthday bash and you didn't fly out of the country saying words.
You know what I'm saying. That one wasn't. It wasn't. That was wid But it ain't even about flying out if a nigga would just because we was like, Bro, I'm gonna I'm gonna turn you off off in the stamp for you off you feel me like even when I was on tour, like Nigga ain't bring me out on no set. You feel what I'm saying, Like none of that was on to him. Yeah. I did the whole tour with him, and that's how. That's another situation that made a kind of class here. I was supposed to get thirty thousand at the end of the tour and I ain't get my money.
Was that in writing?
Huh? Yeah, it was in writing. Let me ask you something, Let me ask you something. With his people, did you have did you have like middlemans or what you just talking adition? Was I talking to bro like you know how you know how it be? Like? No, no, no, no. I when I talked to him about it was directly me and him having a comever safe. Yeah. But afterwards, who you who you talk to? Like you put a birthday man? Who you call him? I pulled up with him, I reached out to him. I was right there with him at the bottom of the step. Wait, no, him.
With him.
Again again.
Coming from like a different perspective, speaking on like moving parts and all of that ship. You know, like when you're when you're an artist and you're in the midst of.
When he said he said he was.
Right next to him. Yeah, you know, I'm thinking it might have been.
It was like a lack of communication, possibly with production.
No cause, get what production gonna say? Hey, what's your ship? All right? Cool? By by by two thirty five thirty, we bring a little down on and we're gonna bring him out. I ain't getting on our iteratory. It was already. It was already before I got that. I said, Oh that ain't give me No, I probably ain't. He ain't man, no mobile that time?
At what point at the bottom of those stairs, Like, hey man, this might not be going count where he.
Went up there? Bro? Like hey still going up right? Hey, I ain't say nothing you.
Would you not, even in reference to him, like would you just tell like what you tell? Would you tell a rapper just don't sign to another rapper?
No, Bro, look at what your guy are doing. But you feel me. It ain't about signing to another rapper. It's about signing to a nigga that's still like care about being the one you feel what I'm saying and not saying that with bro. But it's just like if a nigga still want to be that number one and don't want no number ones beside him. But I'm gonna say this. I'm gonna say this, and I ain't I don't know. It could be, it could be I ain't gonna tell you about. But you know it'd be a lot of other niggas want to get on. So if I bring a little dawn on steak, such gonna be mad at him turning them up. I'm just saying, like on the show Around Space, you got a big head crew like nigga might. Niggas started getting mad at me around because even after the situation, Little Tarantino, this me and everything said they took me off. Yeah, he talk about we took Donald off like it was a plan. Like that's what I got mad. It was a conspirace, bro, Like they finisd me like, oh yeah, we took the nigga off? Like I said, who who took me? Hello? Hello? Hello? This where spartan, bro, that weren't sparked that what made me true?
You were cool with it and with the fact that it could have possibly been a misunderstanding.
But then and I see I seen five fifth I'm telling to him about it and he telling me like, uh, you feel me.
It saw me, nigga, I'm like, damn so. So I'm like damn so.
This ship was just so set up. It felt like when Little Gap said that ship men walked and talked, said, then you feel what I'm saying. But when he said that, that ship just swapped the red flag, like damn.
So, I was the height of your the new nigga, but you feel me, I was the high of New York nigga coming from outside of town, you know, saying when you first signed bro, I talked about that nigga excited about your ship.
Though he like, nah, I got that nigga done before, like you go so that I got the you. Yeah, I got to you. I'm liken that nigga. Any And and I said this, shep don't look it's different that she gonna go. He's like, yo, I'm gonna turn them off. I'm gonna take an infant shut up. So I don't like, like you said, it could be the niggas around man. Yeah, I don't think.
I don't think.
I don't think him and I'm not.
You never know that, I never know, you never know.
Yeah, I don't feel like he.
Was personally involved in a setup or no ship like that. It might have been a situation where has the final hour his hand might have been forced like damn, like or maybe it could have been a for real oversight.
You never know, and I'm not defending.
Do you think do you think happened with God? Damn? You know, probably probably nigga. Nigga like bring me out too, bro, right now, I'm just ain't even fun with that ship and I'm just gonna do my ship. I ain't bringing nobody. Yeah you highlight. You can't just highlight, bro, we're friend of the hoods. Yeah, it's like now you're like and then it could be a big it could be bigger, like I see if I do that, not say I'm just I'm just I'm just Hypothetically, it could have been like these nigga want to get into it with don if I turn him up rying to say I had some situation like that on the tour bus and everything, and then the nigga like kind of found out like that I ain't just no pushover, like you feel what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying. So it's like, you know, Nigga be playing favorite till the nigga sitting around waiting they turn. Then I see the other niggaho got the juice. Now finish, go up.
And Bro nowhere who didn't stand on Big speople with us?
Yeah? You know what I'm saying, Not defending on nigga, not putting no words on a nigga out but none. I'm just saying, I just know how this shit go, bro, because I see my other part of dealing with this ship and now it's like I can't get there and go do feature with some new nigga become my niggas want to rap. You know what I'm saying, I can't do something that ship lane though, Bro, that ship laying that we're wrong with the city brush. A lot of gatekeeper and lame ass shit going on. Bro. Niggas be stopping another nigga money and bruh. Even if you bruh, some of them nigga can't even rap. Yeah. So it's like, Bro, if you can't rap, Bro, you just a street nigga. Bro, get something up, get some money somewhere else. But you think though, you think though, be like, ain't little damn let me got down do your booking or let me do you feel what I'm saying, nigga get in somewhere.
You fear me, but don't you? But are you a believer that what's for you is gonna happen regardless?
And I really think, can't nobody stopped me?
That's my better.
Niggas can delay that ship that no but that to stop it, but they can hold it up.
I feel like that's what going on with me though, like that ain't been clear. It ain't been cleared up. Bro, you you know what I'm saying. Even though me and G talked and you feel me like we had conversations, and yes, yeah, G a real nigga, like I fought with you because you had a real conversation like a real man. That was like little do what I need to do? Then what I'm gonna do? You feel what I'm saying. I gonna get brother, let you at your country and going with your career and we cool. And then you just stopped the internet ship and don't do nothing else you're doing intern on them to your Yeah nigga, this me nigga, the quad Taranty, no nigga this and you did who everybody?
This guad or you disy I did everybody?
But why why why.
Bring everybody into it though.
That's everybody. If if if a nigga that did me, like didn't give me my money all that ship that happened to me, Like Nigga, I worked on that tour, the whole tour. Nigga ain't give my money and nothing. Your already dis me. You you he ain't no nigga that Let niggas can do whatever they want to do because he gonna tell you, hey, don't do that. When Designer came in the city and I was on Designer ass like I told Designer he couldn't perform and ship, the foe hit me like, hey, by don't do that. We don't, we don't want that. You feel what I'm saying, cause you know I stopped Designer for even coming to perform in the city. Really see that what I'm saying. I'm just saying, don't. I'll be trying to but that what I'm saying. So when a nigga told me stop, So if a nigga dissed me, you're supposed to say, hey boy, don't do that. Oh you think them nigga? It was it was it was a plot twist. Yeah, how nigga can dis me? But I can't get designer hell Na, but hell Na, let go back to the lady. Man. No, Bro, I literally, Bro, I wish I could have a conversation with her just to you feel me, so he can tell the diep riding that niggas that I'm we cool or something, because these nigga be they'll hold that motherfucker for forever. Know they'll hold that motherucker. I got big, Bro, I ain't gonna playing ship. I ain't gonna do that.
You hear me, Like when you say niggas you're speaking like DJ.
Yeah, DJ tape makers will be like, oh, I seen when you fell out broke. I won't want brother get mad at me if I fuck with him up. You feel me, nigga, do that? You feel what I'm saying. It's a nigga man a me right now, came right here. I'm saying. I don't know, I'm just saying now what I say. You know that's what I'm saying. So, but it's like it's niggas that's gonna get mad when they see you with certain niggas. So it just be like niggas be emotional and they go back to saying the emotional ship like niggas are black ball you and the nigga ain't even tell them. I don't think home call around like, hey, don't nobody foot you see what I'm saying. I don't think he's doing that. But what a nigga don't understand if a nigga see a nigga have a situation, then they never see it get cleared up. All the niggas still into it. I ain't that nigga that ship, that ship, that ship was crazy and jay that they're crazy that you try and find a solution to.
Why ain't trying to find a solution.
I'm just saying, like it's like black always says, like it's different perspectives and it could have been like.
A different explanation that we might not be thinking about.
He's non confrontational, especially when it especially when it comes to like how let me put it like this, like Okay, the down signed does cool. Yeah, But internally I alrady donna be mad at me than these niggas. For sure. I can see that, you know what I'm saying. I can see that because I've been the same way in the streets. I heard it with more niggas mad at him around him than him. You feel what I'm saying, it was more than niggas like you said the other niggas. You feel it be like ship man, this nigga manigain't even turn whatever, So you know that should have turned into some whole more ship and bro, just you know my ship, you know what I'm saying. But still a niggas a casualty to that ship though. Yeah, like that ship affected me though, you know, like that shit affected my career. So that was a nigga don't understand, like if you don't keep your word and a nigga like fuck with you. That shit affect a nigga whole ship that affected me because everybody thought like he out of him. You feel my whole hood, everybody life and then you see a nigga just so, how did that affect you mentally? All that ship? My my grandma died around that time, you feel what I'm saying. My grandma got damn. My nephew had committed suicide around the time, so it was a lot going on, you feel me, So that nigga just crab about how you bound back though? Oh, just bro, I believe you know, like my partner, Big Walk is always just like he wanted them partly there like he probably liked like he like, like, how you when we get when I told y'all we wasn't rapping no more and ship like that, you're like lame man, nigga Like you ain't call me lame, but you know, like just saying, nigga, you stupid fucking you quick. You feel what I'm saying. He wanted them type of parking, like nigga, better get your loud niggas you feel me, do some nigga ship on the folks go up me to fuck you to my you know, so Jeff put that battery in my back to keep going, you feel me? And then that wouldn't do better care. That was dope. So so the ladies she end up owning some of that song or so, so see my mind how my mind worked, bro. And when she see that, she's gonna be like, damn the nigga smart. So I called the one day and I had like I was up probably like half of me. I called her and I was like, man, I only got eighty thousand dollars left to my name. Man, this is all I got, And if you just let me free and just let me go, I give you my last and I just start over. But I knew a motherfucker with that evil to take my last even though it went my last, and she did it. She let you out for the eighty thousand that before the song dropped. After after that bit would be that bit was huge. She just thought it was declining because she had done uh did the radio ship, so she stopped it on radio and ship. So she felt like my career was gonna be over. So I paid her to get out of the country and then I dropped another record and put put it already.
Money.
Yeah, I started getting all the money. I own this ship under nobody got no parts.
She was not even a producer.
The producer yeah, he sold his man.
Uh.
I got that beat from a niggat my email name few Yeah, it was just around nigga sit man email. I was listening and beats and I made that ship, bro. That ship I made that should in the closet, bro, So what type of what should respect on it? So say that'sh it different? Well, I'm on nigga ad like if when you when you hear this ship, you gonna know like shouting car rap for real, like shout of really talented, like it's a real classic piece of work, Like I really don't think nobody musically I really can fuck with me, like for making songs and not only being catching, but also like damn that just saying it then and it's gonna show it like a little like streep side too. But why you did, brother? And he ain't having none to do? He ain't this you man. I'm just saying, like, real ship, I'm trying to think, like look trying to put it, but come say so if you your perspective base right, Look from my perspective, no I do you can say a nigga, a nigga got that all this dumbin or effect of not doing this and not doing it right here? You feel what I'm saying, not paying me my money? You feel what I'm saying, like not keep your word on this, not keep your word on it. I run it too, one of your other buddy. They telling me this. You feel what I'm saying. So he basically oh what he basically spoiled like yeah, brother, they don't play and then and then the this song called damn so now like oh shit, so these niggas just seen out were hot and I was in a way.
Okay, so let me I got a question, not to cut you off whatever. Going back to okay, you said the thirty thousand for the tour, right, you said that you got it on paper?
Yeah, so it was it was through the touring company or whatever you feel.
Okay, So did you have a conversation with the representative from the touring company about what's going on with that?
I call everybody, boy, I called them for I called Brooke Well, I tried straightening with them, and then I called broke By. Hey, brother, you folks up, dam don't give him my money? And then insh. So when I talked to g I told you what's so? He said, Brother, look bro, he ain't gonna give you no money. Bro. Nigga said, let you at your contract and god damn niggain't gonna get me my money. I said, you know what, don't even worry about Jay, just let my contract keep the money. Bro, It's cool, how that ship will, Nigga, they won't give me the money.
Damn.
It could have been out of it. It could have been out of their hands. It could have been I don't know. You feel what I'm saying, but it's how it take a phone call for home. You fear me? Hey get that by that money? Hey put put him in the show, Hey do this. It just like I wish it would have went different because that was like one of my people I idolized. So it's like it's like me and your idol and then the nigga jail be like like it's like damn, bro, like I really thought that situation was gonna be. You feel me my next level? You fear me so, like, come on, like listening to the nigga music, A fan of the music, all that shit. So it was different for me. You feel what I'm saying, Man, what's next for so? Say? Done?
So say?
Man? Oh shit, Man, I ain't doing that. Man, I'm just dropping good music. Man ain't spaying nothing. You feel what I'm saying. It's just what's going on. It's just it's just a whole different side of me.
Man.
I just I'm I just want to show niggas like they really not that for real music. You feel me like you know how music used to be competitive and nigga used to be like you feel me challenging niggas to rap. You feel me like that's what I'm like, so let me. Let me tell you we just broke down, like four people in their conversation. You had one thing to say to people Brown with with it be Oh man, I wish we could have had a conversation. Man, I love you. You feel me like I really fucked with people Brown like I speak highly of her, like I really love Peple Brown, bro, Like I literally had an issue with some niggas in the club and handle that ship for her. You feel what I'm saying, Like niggas she owes some money for an open mic or some ship that was speaking crazy and I like, I love people bro, for real. Bro, that shit hurt me. This ain't nobody I wanted to fall out with you. It's somebody that I cherish. You feel what I'm saying, Like I really care about people around her children and everything, like I got attached to her kids, Nigga. This ain't no situation where it's like, hey man, we fell out, fucking nigga hurt Like, I'm still like nigga, I'm like, man, I wanted to strain that ship out. I tried to straighten it out. She ain't let me though. Bro. You know some people when they say fuck you fucking regardless of what the situation. So she just said fuck me and I couldn't straighten it up. What about the lady the other lady, Yeah.
Got you?
What about broo? Oh man? You know, like man, I wish we could fix that. You feel what I'm saying. I wish we not even just fix it on a conversation. Yeah, Like, bro, I still like man, home is like even if even if it's on some music ship like like me, just you feel me like helping on that type of shit, Like I really feel like Home still got you feel me longevity and this ship. And you know, like man, I fucked with her, Like I wish it would have happened differently. A nigga could have communicated with me and said, Bro, I can't do this or I can't do that no more, or you feel me like, but it ain't no beef like I ain't. I ain't beef with no nigga. I ain't mad at a nigga like. It wasn't none of that. It was just like, bro, you won't And niggas gotta start holding niggas morally.
Responsible and principal responsible.
Too, and that what we don't do you feel me like, boy, if you give your word like like you bro. If you give me your word, my nigga, you keep your word. Bro. You feel me, you say, bro'n put your on bit fat. Bro. You brought me up there. You feel me, you say, I'm gonna doue that you do it bro like, And that's that's what matter more than me. You can add anybody on my team, my engineer. If I say I'm gonna do something, I don't give a fucking hurt me. I should never see it. I was gonna do it, come and do it so I you know, I hope we can have a conversation that we can't. And what about the other dude who the comedian nigga? Yeah, I ain't got nothing to say. The home. I just hope home just stay, you know, be a better father, be a better person, man, to just stay out the way. I really like, I really like I wanted to help little bro be something. You feel what I'm saying. I wanted to help him be something. It's like when you come from the streets and the struggle and you make something and you get something, it's like you be looking for who to pull up with you, like who I can pull up with? You feel me? I ain't really have. I had one nigga do me like that, like big walk like he pulled me up, So it made me want to do it for somebody else. You feel me, because like that's my relationship with God. But if I bless you, you bless me. Bless somebody else? You feel me. I bless people every day in my life. So I was trying to bless little brother. You feel me, And I just hope he don't play with no more his blessings and learn no more listens. In fact, hey, now we get out of here. Man. Resentment only goddamn affect you, and don't fake the other people.
For sure, that's fact. Appreciate this man? Or did she give your word?
Can we keep it real? Brom?
Can we keep it real?
Brom? Can we? Can we keep it real?
Because you're gonna go for that.
I ain't I ain't even never know you. Thistional though that's on my grand baby. I ain't never know you. It went up and came down quick though. Oh yeah, I ain't even never know that. G Cob man we have.
I didn't even know that had dished you. I didn't know nothing about that ship until just right now for real.
But White, I.
Don't even have a plausible explanation.
I don't know that.
No, but I fully, I wholeheartedly support your career and I think you're like one of the artists out But as far as.
That, I just I don't know.
Jay opened up, man, Nah, she ain't gonna man, but I'm telling you we did the last time in the last show, I was like, Jay, I just really want yeah that she brought me to tears. Man, she cried and then she cried, Lady le me at the bottom of the step.
She let me at the still Damn, somebody else does it? Then the third time will be a charm.
Nah, I ain't nobody else gonna do it.
Ain't going that.
Got you to that? Lady got you?
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