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You're listening to Comedy Central. Hey, it's Roy Wood Jr. Instead of our normal beyond the scenes episode this week, I thought i'd give you all a little something different. The holidays have come early. You're welcome. I'm excited to present my latest hour stand up special with Comedy Central, imperfect Messenger. You can stream it on comedy central dot com. By the way, if you want to see me instead of just hear me too anyway, give it a listen. I I I hope you're okay. I do. I hope you're okay. I'm not gonna ask, you know. I just hope you're okay. That's not a question you can throw around casually anymore. You know how you doing? We've been through too much and lost. Too many people have been through too much struggle. You have somebody how they're doing now? Better be careful because they might tell you. That'll throw off your whole day. You ever had somebody you don't give a damn about start sharing their pain? Who woof, it'll throw off your whole schedule. Hey, what's going on? Man? How you being? Where? The dog called codes in and I gotta call you back. That's my bad, that's my bad. I thought, you know, I didn't give it ship. I'm so sorry for asking. I'm so sorry start a cashual question. I called my uncle. That's why I knew my uncle was going through some ship. I called my uncle, I said, what's going on? He said, you know, ain't nothing that the ancestors can't get me through ship. Motherfucker's summoning dead black people. That's when you know black people going through some ship. When you start calling on the ancestors, calling on black people floating around, you're protecting what should it's going to show you. That's how stressful it is being black. Even after you die, you got to stay on earth to give motherfucker's tips. I can't even go to heaven. As soon as you get the floating up to heaven, somebody down on earth, Anti stills, I need you. An't just a bitch. My black friends always talking about the ancestors, My white friends always talking about their forefaults, which is two totally different types of dead people. And look, I'm not saying you're racist if you bring up the forefathers, but I am saying you have my undivided attention, you know, because it's not racist, But it just feels it's figure out something that ain't racist, but it's it's got the residute, it's got the residue of racism on it. You know what I feel like? You know, it's like somebody start talking about you know what it feel like if you're you ever been somewhere and it's too many American flags? It just feels it's all little, too much freedom in this space, and I just don't feel right, like how many American flags equal one Confederate flag? I don't know what the number is, but there is a number. And that's how I be filmed when people get to talk about their forefathers. But I ain't trying to hear that. You you know, Roy, this is a layered conversation with a lot of nuance, and I just think we need to think about what our forefathers going away. Hey, I think my ancestors, But won't your forefathers to shut the funk up? How about that Denver, Colorado? What's going on? How y'all doing about? Right? That's good? I mean at that time, I mean, at that time, we're just out here trying to live, man, that's all. We're trying to do anything to feel good. That's what we after now. But whatever you got to do to feel good, do that ship like. At this point, life is basically a crab leg and we're just all trying to work that. They're trying to find that one little knot feel good inside that. Oh no, oh oh, I found a little feel good today. I found just a little bit. The smallest things will send you to the moon. You post a picture of yourself online somebody and like it. You well, so wild. We're so addicted to that that that our own face ain't even enough. We've lost confidence in our own face. I won't put a picture of yourself online butout putting the filter nothing, the filter swing swing, So okay, that's the one I'm gonna post. That's the one. You gotta have dog years on your head. W don't don't run from the truth. Don't be putting no filters on your pictures. Accept the truth. Your mom is a nine, your dad is it too. It is what it is. Stop putting filters on yourself. They got one app. They got one app is this ship is wild. They got an app where all they do is show you what you look like when you eighty. That's it, That's all it is it. Don't do nothing else. You take a picture of yourself now as a young person, and you put it in your ands on a little eight. That's it. Have we lost that much hope that we need a sneak preview of old age? Like who is it? Sneak preview of when you eighty? Who is this app for? Like the other than black men? Because we might not make it the app but m hmm, you never know anything, man. Women getting plastic surgery to feel good? Yeah, resilient, but let's that's what they're doing, fellas resilient butt lifts. That's what the women are doing. They're going down to South America. You do you know what the Brazilian but lets is. They go down there and they slash your booty cheek over, but they slash your booty open, and they take some of your belly and they put it in your ass and they stick you up and they put you on the Spirit Airlines flight back to the States. That's what they're doing, which is fine. I'm not hating on plastic surgery. If that's your crab blag, work it out, do what you do. My problem is that women, y'all get the new ass and then you get on the internet and talk ship too. Then why are you attacking myself for seeing you got a belly booty? Congratulations, go into joy your ballet booty. But that's not what they do do women get the new ass and then you be bent throve on Instagram. Look at all this ass? Do you have enough dick for it? No, ma'am, I don't. I don't have enough. I cannot reach it from this ain't little malamp you You put a foot of meat in front of your I cannot get to it. I'm just wait, you can't move the goalpost. Didn't turn around and talk shit? You turn around. We gotta do it front ways. This the only way white people doing what they can to feel good. Now, I see what you're doing out their white folks, white allies. That's what we got now, black people, white allies, and you gotta call them that. They like that, white allies. And we know you're a white ally because you won't stop telling us at your job. Shut the fuck up. I just want you to know that I see you and I understand your journey. And anytime you want to have a dialogue, would you like to have a dialogue? Stop talking to your black friends about race. Talk to your forefather's call him up. And I'm not trying to attack white So I know you've done a lot of good ship. I don't want you to think I'm taking nothing away from you. And we've been seeing you out there putting in the work. You got your shirts on with your little slogans. You know, pretty much whatever you stand for the white person is a slogan shirt for you. Black lives and trans live and pus it hats a lot of merch. Y'all got a lot of merch in this ally game right now, which is cool because the merch the shirt does have to work for you. Now, the shirt breaks the ice for you. It's easy to be a white ally now. If you was a white ally in the nineties, you know how hard that ship was with no merch. You just have to be nice to niggas and grant at them and hope they figured it out. You know, I'm a pressure that is, as a white person, we can hold the elevator door open it looking damn, just see what I did. But you could be doing more. White folks, don't think that what you've done is enough. We appreciate what you've done, but you could do more. Dig deep and help out your goddamn black friends. We've seen what y'all was doing at the Capitol. Do that ship for us, storm the capital for your black friends. Inside of every white person in this room is a capital rioter. You should dig deep and find them. You can storm the Capitol for a number of reasons. That ain't got to be the only reason. Do it for us. You think we can discussed that at the Black men. You think black people ain't discussed storming a government facility as one of the options for getting out freedom. Yeah, but you cannot do that if you're black. You can't just go grab a shot done and go to d C and the boom bitch with a freedom match. You will get shot immediately, immediately, you will get a shot that you get shot at the house booking the flight. You wouldn't even you wouldn't even get to DC. Yeah, man, white folks are contributing. It's good. It's good to see white people contribute. A lot of white people contributing Black folks. If we don't recognize and we've got to start tipping our hat to him. Some white folks have been doing some really dope ship helping black folks. You know, you know you don't want. You know, one white ally that goes unsung, in my opinion, is evil white actors in civil rights movies. These are unsung heroes of the movement. Because it's the thing. If you're gonna have a black struggle movie and you're gonna tell the truth, that means you have to show some heynos ship happening, and to show hena shit happening. That means you need white actors being motherfucking terrible on camera. You gotta have it. And I've met some of these white actors. These are good, normal, ast white boys. They got to walk on set all nice and then just turn on the racism. You know what kind of pressure they are. You gotta walk on set, say nigga for twelve hours. I gotta eat lunch by yourself. Nobody talks to you. I gotta walk on set, old chipper and ship, Hey, good morning, how you're doing game guy? Hey you directed good to see you. Hey, den't say good to see you too. It's what we ready and actually you are nigga. He's gonna come on. We gotta go again. Oh okay, I'm sorry. This health. I gotta go and can I don't want to. If you're gonna tell the history of my people the right way every now and then, you need a white actor being a heinous motherfucker on that camera. You're telling me Leo DiCaprio didn't kill it, and Django unchained. Leonardo DiCaprio transformed in that movie. That's one of the bravest white allies I have a seen in my life, turned into an evil assing slather, called Jamie Fox a nigga to his face, to his face, not an empty chair, but like they do the c G I Jamie Fox. Later, Jamie Fox was in that room, and Leo was right there and grabbing carry Washington and shipped by the hair, just being disrespectful, sucking put tin toes in the ground and called fucking Jamie Fox and Nikka to his face in front of Samuel L. Jackson, bravery and all they do. They love us, say, old Tom Cruise does his own stunts. Well, so does Leonardo DiCaprio. That's a wild stunt right next to Samuel L. Act Look Jamie Fox stead in the face because you said you would be able to to pay an exorbitant amount of money for what you considered to be the right nigga. But it would seemed to me this lady right here, it's indeed the right nigga. Same dude from Titanic, y'all. You just gotta respect that transformation. The stude went from Titanic to enslaver near Fall. Well, you are nigga after Jango. This, this is what a sacrifice Leonardo DiCaprio made after Django unchained in two thousand twelve. It was almost ten years before he did another scene with a black co star. That's how that I'm not calling the man racist. He's done movies with every minority you can. Ain't did a movie with a bad He's a solid dude, h But he knew, he knew when he made that movie. Once you call Jamie Foxx and Kerry Washington nigger in front of Samuel L. Jackson, you got to lay low for a decade, and that's sacrifice. If anybody know Leo, tell him he can come home. Tell him. It's time. We're trying, man, anything to feel good. Some of us out there, we're trying to just help other people to feel good. That's our crab leg trying to help other people you want to, and sometimes the system don't let you do everything you want to do the way you want to do it. I got I got two cops in my family, which which is kind of like saying some of my best friends are black. Yeah, well I got two cops in my family, Chicago suburb and the Mississippi State trooper. We get to talking about everything that's going on, man, and I was trying to explain to them it's base level ship the police could be doing. We ain't talking legislation and policy, just base level ship. You could do to help build a bridge to make things a little better. First thing the police need to do this. This is one thing I think the police should start doing. Stop talking in code on the radio. Use regular words. Why are y'all talking all these abbreviations and ship, Well, you're keeping secrets. Secrets is what got you in trouble all this time. Stop keeping secrets. You ain't in the rack, You ain't giving away your position to the intimate us, regular work. You're in front of the Walgreens, I can see you, everybody can see you. But that about the police. Do you at the police? Stop to each other on the radio, The ship is gibberish, and it's how the police talk to each other. It's just gibberish. Three Vic David to David to Vitric And we'll be watching the police in the grocery store. They see us looking at and looking at the radio. The police love to play it off like they understood what dispatch was talking about. Three Adam David three Adam David. Redder's fine to defend. You don't know what she just said. Stop sucking around. You don't know what she just said to you. You wonder why the police show up and shoot the wrong person because you ain't getting the right information through the radio. Slow it down, Slow it down, use regular words. It's a lot of ship the cops could be doing. Man the other thing, the other thing the police could do. This would really build a bridge. Every cop in this country, once a month, let her nigga go. I'm serious. Not not not every day, not every shift, not every week, but just once a month, let a nig come. And and not for every crime. I'm not saying for all crime. There's certain crimes that have to be perfect, like the murder, the A T F. S V. You like you keep the hits you know the major crime. Do you still gotta go to jail for that? But a lot of crime that's out there that cops take us to jail for. You ain't got to take me to jail for this, man, Come on, don't just because it's a crime, don't mean that you've got to enforce it. Really, really dog crack, You're gonna take me to jail for some crack like crap, that's what you that's where we arrested. People's forts still crack. They're not a shipment of crack. I'm talking about my own personal a lot better for me, my own Why a crack, one single rock a crack? You're gonna take me to jail for a crack, sir, that's what you're gonna do. Drugs. Dog is an addiction, it's not criminal. Drop me off that that, don't do crack, no more building and gonna fight the real crime, because that's how you dealt the bridge. Because the riff between good copping back copping, the argument, it just boils down to who had a good interaction with the police. It's all it boils down to. And if once a month you're letting the nigger go, you are creating allies out the ass, because that's who's gonna defend you at the next protest. Who you think gonna defend you at the next protest. You wouldn't even need all that Blue Lives Matter flag. You just start letting niggas go free. Once a month. We got to defund the police, abolished these police, hang on, hang on my baby by some crack on me last third day, my brother just let me go. Look, this is a nuanced conversation with a lot of layers to it. Well, we just need to think about what our forefathers would have wanted. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. I'm gonna smoke some cracks, I think right back. The last black person to have a positive interaction with the police and speak about it on the record is ice Cube. Just yesterday, the foods tried to blast me. I saw the police and they That was thirty years ago, y'all. And we never forgot that one cop And he didn't even do ship to ice Cube. He didn't pull him over and give him ice cream. He just let him know. Ice Cube was sitting there the red like that cop saw ice Cube and drove off and ice Cube was like, oh, ship, I gotta go to the studio right now called DJ Poo. We got to make a track about this ship. What's the score of the Laker Supersignic game? Anything to feel good? I that's what we're trying to do. Man, anything to feel good. You gotta be careful though. There's a lot of people out there. The only way they know how to feel good just to make you feel bad. You gotta keep your head on the swivel for these folks because they're out there and they ain't doing well. They ain't doing well. They got a full clip, they got an empty heart, and they ain't had a crab leg in a long time. You gotta keep your head on the swivel. Them folks got guns. They're ready to shoot up whatever anywhere. That's why we gotta bring back profiling. I'm sorry, I'm gonna be real. Look, I know it ain't worked out well for us, but it's a lot of different ways you can profile, not just racial. I ain't say racial profile and just bring back profiling. Trying to stop these mass shootings, there's certain stuff you've got to be looking for people in public. You got to be on the lookout. You got to be on the lookout in this country for people that ain't doing well. I was walking to the home depot. The dude in front of me was walking diagonally. I was like, I'm good. I left. I went to loads. I was like, to get out of here. I'm gonna be around no diagonals. I am a perpendicular American and I don't trust. I wouldn't talk to the manager. Everything I turned into a Karen. I went to the manager. I was like, you don't. You've got some diagonals in here, but they're going here and find these diagonals and get them out. Mass shootings, man, mass shootings especially fucked up if you're from the hood. It's especially messed up if you're from the hood. And mass shooting that that was the whole point of getting out the hood was to get away from the murder. That's what they tell you're growing up in the hood. Get you an education, get you a job, get out here and see the world. A bitch. I did. They're shooting over there too. I'm back. I'm better off here the whole top. Say what you want about the hood, but at least they shoot my fucker's one at a time. You got a chance. I understand gentrification now I get it. White folks coming back around black people where it's says, welcome back, welcome back. Oh my god, did you see all her murder out there? It's okay, I'm an ally. Good to meet you. Where can I get some almond milk around here? It's okay, I'll buy the block. But good to meet you, though, good to meet you. It's the same thing with civil rights movies. Same thing, same thing with civil rights movies. I watch them. I watch the civil rights movie. But you can't watch too many civil rights movies. It will all to you, no matter of fact. Matter of fact. I think all these streaming like all these streamings are since they should Black people shouldn't be allowed to watch more than two a year just to help keep us calling for our own mental health. You should not be like because because you know what they do. Like you watch one slavery and then the algorithm show you twelve most slaveries to choose from. You cannot watch twelve slaveries in a week and be normal. You'll be walking around work mad. No motherfucker too, Slavery max like that's like, after you watch your second slavery, like a prop should just come up on the screen. Eight dollar. That's enough. You're good, bro, you you called up. Just watch your two slaveries and keep it moving. Man, did you know there's a Paw Patrol movie. Let me get you the Paw Patrol. I'm gonna be real quick. But I know a lot of people don't like those movies. I understand it. I understand the feeling. It's black pain. It's terrible ship being documented on screen. People making money off of it. You know, But our history got to be somewhere. It ain't in the textbooks soutill we get some better options. We just gotta have a couple of struggle movies every now and then. It is what it is. But you'll tell you we throw me off though. I'll be watching them civil rights movies, man will throw me off. I'll watch the civil rights movie like, oh no, that was a good ass movie, and then two weeks later you find out the main black dude in the movie is British. She's like a motherfucking gotten it because some black bread they're good. The anger is a compliment them black bread, that they're so good. It feel like betrayal. You'll be watching the movie this be more Luther King. I'll have a dream and in the dream and I'll be dreaming into the dream. And then you see him two weeks later in the interview one of my job lives when the jubil on that damn right, Nicholas. Why is Dr King talking like this? And this might not be an issue you for most people, but every black person remember the day they found out it just Elba wasn't from Balka bare. Oh my god, that was a troubling day in the Black American community. It's like finding out your daddy wasn't your daddy. It's just out. But that spring a bell from the wire, that spring a bell, dog like, nah, don't and mocking from over there. No you ain't. You shut the funk up. And then you saw interest. You saw him, and then you saw him in the interview when I tell you for breakfast, me love a warm bowl of beans. So this nicky eat things for breakfast. Oh not my dog, not my dog, No nah. I think I think part of the riff between Black Americans and Black Brits, it just boils down to we don't know enough about foreign black people struggle. We don't know enough about Black British people because they don't teach us their history. And if I don't know your pain, I can't trust you to portray mine on camera. That's the that's the issue. But it ain't Black Brits fault. It ain't they fault. We don't know ship about their history. They ain't teaching us falling racism in America. We ain't learned about the struggle across the diaspora. We're just now learning about Tulsa. That ship happened around in the corner. Yeah we did. We're too busy learning Roman numerals in America. They didn't teach you about to struggle across the diaspora. They're only gonna teach you. Thank god, I know the Roman numerals now I know which Super Bowl we owned. Fucking idiots. So a different type of nigga pull up to the country. You don't know shit about him. You're like, there's gotta be something going on in England. Man, there's gotta be some racism over the man they ran off Megan marcle. You don't object up. Your country got to be to not funk with rating Megan Marcole, you don't talk with Megan marcle Megan marcal could passed for eight nine different races in America, but in England they was like, something's off with that good. Uh, too many Nicholas in her naplers if you want to England was so racist. And Megan marcos she came back to America and stayed at Tyler Perry's house. Do you understand how frustrated you have to be with racism? Did it like a pain that only Medea could fix? Then then she talked to Oprah. She was dealing with so much racism. She had to talk to two of the most powerful black women in the country at the madea and Oprah had to double up and Paul Oprah Winfrey Oprah open was interviewing Mega Market. Oprah didn't have no solutions for that woman. That's how complicated racism is in England. Oprah couldn't help her. Oprah, Oprah, this is a woman who has built her empire on giving us solutions to our problems. That's all Opus done to the new ship, the talk show. She had to damn magazine. She's got a TV network. It's all promoting positive imagery to make you a better you. Magan Marcos set down in that backyard with open for open for two hours. All she did was make faces. Couldn't help Megan Maya Marco poured her heart out to Oprah opens that's sitting there. I can't help you with that, baby. You gotta talk to the ancestors. I Gail, let's go. I can't help her. We got to go. Gear. Yeah. These civil rights movies, man, they're painful, but they're necessary to me. One of the best civil rights movies of all time is the original Fast and Furious. Listen, I'm sure you have your favorite Paul Walker if you don't remember, if you never saw the o G Fast and Furious Paul Walker. Paul Walker is a cop in this movie. Paul Walker's job in the movie is to go undercover and take down a treacherous street racing game that's being run by black Mexican looking Dominican Italian Persian. Whatever the diesel is, he's gotta take him down. He's gotta take him down, and he does his job. Paul Walker does his job. Then diesel finds out he's a cop, takes off Paul Walker Peep's game then Diesel crashes, Paul Walker gives Ben Diesel the keys to his car. Then Diesel speeds away to freedom. And for the next din ten fifteen sequels, all the Diesel is done is saved the world over and over again with nothing but minorities. It's beautiful. All of He's done is higher minorities, and left and right formed a bick pop coalition of street races. He hired Tyreese, he hired Ludicrous, he hired bow Wow, he hired jar Rule, hired Michelle Rock, Reguez, grabbed the Asians and Tokyo drifts. Even then, even Wonder Woman was in one of the damn movies. He hired the Rock. Whatever the funk he is the original fashion Furious is proof of what a minority is capable of if every now and then the police just let a nigger go. I'm just saying, stony civil rights movie with a sequel, I'll say that I like Selma Selfma ain't got no sequel doing No, they don't. Ain't no Selma to most Selma still walking, Most Selma, I'm an email aba douper damn man. I'm gonna picture that, ay, But I got an idea new selma. Anything to feel good, anything to feel good. We got people out there, man, they're doing whatever they can to feel good. They're helping other people. That's their crap egg and I've liked that. I love seeing charity, philanthropy, people pouring into other people. You know what you know I really love seeing the last couple of years is seeing all of these celebrities that's getting folks out of jail. Now, that's dope. That's been dope to see these celebrities ain't messing around, ain't damn Maya Moore from the w NBA, Alicia Keys, and Kim Kardashian, even Kim Kardashians ass got somebody else. Don't matter how you feel about Kim Kardashian, you gotta tip that. And look that ass got a black woman freaking appreciate them. Them celebrities make it look easy as hell too. They'd be getting folks out of jail to but you get folks in v I Peah, that's my homeboy at that game. Him and him, they're good. Yeah, get them out, yeah, get right there next to the elect your chair, that's him here to get him out up. What I don't like though, but I don't like is that. What's weird is that when the celebrity gets somebody free, that's the one time they become humble. That's backwards. As soon as they get somebody out of prison, they bring them to the freedom conference and they put them up front, and then here they are. They are free, and this is this moment is about them. No, if I got you out the jaws of injustice, I'm being your fucking p Diddy. Immediately, I would fucking puff daddy that press conference. I pushed a free ass out of the way. Boom, I'm no. One freedom and ship boy, and I would bron my hand a two on fire represent three five two a leven motherfucker and he freed because of mell. What's up? Because that's how you get other celebrities on board. You make them jealous because it ain't enough celebrities doing that ship. But it's a lot of celebrities talking about what dimond they got and what car they got And look at my house, bitch, how many people have you freed from prison? Flex that that's what you should be flat because I can't right now. If I got somebody free from the the federal government, that's like beating the nineties six bulls. Do you understand if I got somebody free from the federal government, that's all you would know about me for the next five years. My fucker wouldn't be allowed to go nowhere without me. I've Jeff done him than trillo quis stuff. Motherfucker Like, keep me on my hip right here for five Come on, motherfucker, I got you out. We're going. We're going to waffle house. Come with me, motherfucker. I'd walk the red carpet with him. So, Roy, I see you on the red carpet. What are you wearing? His name is Keith. I got him out. This my dog? How you doing? Keep? Say something to the people. Keep I'm happy to be free. Good job. Keep. I love seeing it. And it was in seeing those celebrities get people out of jails that I finally found my craplet. It's like, I'm gonna get me somebody out. You know, got me a little bit of celebrity. I've been on BT three times. You know, my YouTube channel got a hundred thousand subscribers in that that's nothing to clap at. That's no money. Yeah, I figured it out, man. My childhood next door neighbor is imprisoned from murder. He's been going twenty years so far. And when I say and I wanna say next door neighbor, I mean literally next door, like like on report card day. We could hear each other's ass shippons, you know, like that, you know, in the hood on report card day, and you know it sounds like a zombie attack all over the neighborhood here when you get to the bus stop the next morning, tease each other. When I heard your ass whooping, that was my asshoo. I was in there. Look my dog Johnny Lee Man, Johnny Lee. That's an Alabama's name for your asset, she said, not Johnny Lee. Yes, baby, Johnny Do you know him? Yes, Johnny Lee, my dog, Johnny Lee Man. He was a getaway driver and a robbery that turned into a murder. He didn't pull the trigger, wasn't even in the store, but state Alabama gave him nine years. And I don't and I don't know what the laws are here, but in Alabama, the laws basically, if I'm with you and you murder, we murdered, which damn that they murdered. And I understand, I understand the spirit of the law. It's to make you watch the company you keep. But it's a lot of court systems. They use that law to lock up two people for the price of one. And it don't feel right. It don't feel right. It's the same thing with drugs here, the same same thing with drugs. Like if I'm with you when you got cracked, somehow we got cracked. How we both got cracked. It's one it's a crack. We cannot both smoke a crack. You've seen the crack pipe. It's my mouthpiece. We can't there's no couple's crack pipe like we cannot. Lady in the tramps, look, I can see if they found a crack, who could Okay, fine you can got them and the can you smoke cracking? Who? I don't know. We talk about letter, But that's the law. So ninety nine years was the sentence. And I know that part of it. I know that part of it is who they killed. They killed this man, Mr Mohammed Man and Mr Mohammed He ran a black owned record store in Birmingham. Get a black business owner. This man ran this record store for years. This assaulted the community, side sidebar young people, a record store is a place and the before times there was a building you would go to to buy the music. It did not just come to your phone. You You have to go through a building and then you say do you have the music, and then they will say yes or no, and then you would leave them all. A mall is a place where there used to be jobs and happiness. It was a delp spot. Old people would come there and exercise. It was a good hand Mr Mohammed man. Mr Mohammed took the money he made from that record store and he had pulled right back into the black community in Birmingham. He would mentorship programs, police athletic leagues, here by blazers for kids to wear the job, interviews all the time. This is how much he loved black people. He supported local rappers white people. Local rappers are terrible and their dreams should never be supported. Of the rappers from where you live are terrible. They are not going to make it. But mr Mr Mohammed he supported him because he knew if they was in the studio they wasn't on the street. Supported him, and I mean supported supported them. Gave him prime real estate in the record will put their albums by the register. Will you could see it then get you into buying and supporting local. You sure up to the show up to the record store to bouy cash money and master p or whatever, and he in size you up and Okay, you supporting New Orleans, But I don't see you supporting burmanham stare at you with them civil rights eyes and mhmm, you're buying all these out of town rappers. You ain't even bought the new Buckle Up Knuckle Up Volume two. I'm like, who the fucking buckle Up Knuckle Up? I didn't even know they had a volume one. I got that one right here to young Blood, ain't no thanks support both of them. You lead a record store at eighty dollars worth of music supported me. That store supported me. I used to do prank phone calls back in the day. Prank phone calls was my first hustle to people who know they know, and so they would take my pranks and put them in the store and help me sell them. And a little bit of money that I made in that store from selling them prank calls. That was the difference between sleeping in my car and sleeping in the hotel on the road. Like that money. You are a lot of money, because it was either Mr. Mohammad or son Darius is usually his son, Darius, Darius the one who called me up every week to give me the count on Monday morning. You will you wanted. A call from Darius could mean you have some bread coming a young blood, good news your soul. Three come on down here and get your eighteen dollars, young blood. And I raised it that story to get them eighteen dollars because that little bit of money saved my life. Dog. That store supported people, and that's who they killed. That's who they killed. And I don't I'm not gonna sit here and say that twenty years it's enough time. But I know ain't the number either. So I called up Darius. I called up Mr Mohammed's son. I called up Darius and wait, we're cool, but we don't talk on a regular but we're cool enough. And I called up Darius and I started walking, walking him through what I'm thinking about, trying to get Johnny Lee, trying to get him eligible for parole, and Darius stopped me dead in my tracks. He said, Roy, if that man gets out of prison, it'll kill my mama too, And That's something I never considered in the whole time that I've been thinking about doing this, Because the thing is that once you get locked in on something and what you want to do and what your agenda is, you forget about all the other people that have been affected by something. And I love sight of that. I ain't never had nobody in my family murdered, so I didn't even have the perspective. I learned two things and talking to talking to his brother. First thing I learned, Number one, if it ain't your pain, it ain't your place to tell somebody when you get past him. So like folks be suffering and dealing with stuff, you need to get over a man. You gotta let him process that. That's their journey. That's the journey. And I hope that brother forgive me because what I did was hell of disrespectful. You're twenty years passed the death of your father and some goofy as comedian co You're amen, I was old Kim Kardashian fact a. Let's get somebody out what you're thinking, you and me getting. I just hope the brother forgive me. Man. I was just trying to feel good. The other thing I learned and talking to this brother is also I'm not famous enough to get nobody out of president and now I'm not Alabama. I ain't got the resumee I need to host the Daily Show correspondent. Ain't enough. That might be enough in Colorado, but trust me, it ain't enough in Alabama. Ain't but two people getting you out of prison. In Alabama, that's Nick Saban and Barbecue. That's it. But I understand what Darius is going through. I understand what that brother is going through. In the sense of revenge. You know anything to feel good, and a lot of us the only way we know how to feel good is to get revenge on somebody else. And I'm here to tell you it do feel good. Oh my god, revenge feel good. I ain't saying it's full of nutrients. It ain't gonna help you in the long run, but in the short run, it feels good to get a little revenge on somebody sometimes because revenge, that's an impulse we learned at an early age. We learned revenge early. It's not taught. It's something that's just in us. Because you see someone who got away with something and they ain't got the thunk behind the air yet and you gotta make the world right. My son when he was four, better kid at school, four years old, just down on another boy's flesh, just racking like rock wiless like he didn't bite and disengaged. And so so we go to the school. We go to the school for the bite meeting. You know, that's what they do with their parents. They said, it's down and sit us down for the bite meeting. And come to find out at the bite meeting, my boy beat the same kid that beat him the year before. I saw all in the game fail. This is not an incident. This is justice. Like I was proud. I was proud of my boy because not only did he bite this child, but he waited a year to do it. Do you know how diabolical that is. This is a bite, This is an intimate attack. This ain't throwing a rock from across the park. You gotta lure somebody in to bite him. That means you gotta earn their trust. You gotta share snacks, you gotta share toys. And then one day on the yard when the CEO wasn't looking. It's like a job, the job with that we act like revenge is a substitute for healing. And that's the problem. Revenge is not a substitute for healing because no matter what, no matter what wrong has been done to you, no matter how mean you think somebody did you, at the end of the day, it's on you to heal yourself. Forgiveness is an internal journey. It's the truth. So you can be mad at them as long as you won't, but it ain't gonna fix with You got to do that work on your own. But in the meantime, talk that ship. This concept of never letting go of something, even after people have apologized, even after people have tried to work put to hell on it. I understand. If you don't understand that, go to a civil rights museum, and then you'll understand the concept of never forgiving because you go to a civil rights museum. I don't know about 'all, but I when I leave the civil rights museum, I am not in a forgiving mood. I am not ready to have a dialogue. The civil rights moved. That's why I like the way they designed these new civil rights museums they've been building, where they put a bunch of good news right before the exit. Have you seen that the new civil rights museums, all of them just it's struggle, struggle, struggle, every level. It's your struggle, struggle, struggle, and then you get up to the top level. Right before you leave, it's like, yeah, went to Houston, Obama easter rage and you leave and you feel good, like, oh yeah, that is some good news. Yeah like that easter. I ain't gonna fight no white people today. I feel good. Doud You go through a civil rights museum, you don't want to, let should go. She didn't even happen to me. That's not my generation, but it is my history. And I'm still mad, still mad, and it's been way more than twenty years. You go through these pictures. You know what's wild about the Civil Rights Museum is that you you can look at these pictures of these people, these black people being defamed, being defiled and just syrup in the head and people hitting them with sticks, and it's wild is to realize in that moment that most of the people in those pictures are still alive. That's the wild ship about the Civil Rights Museum. They are showing you people that are mostly still taking in breath on this earth. The black people in the picture lives so if they alive, that mean the white people in the picture a live too. Where they are, That's who I want to have a dialogue with. Tracked down these motherfucker but you can't find them because in the picture they're all nights and young. You don't know they look like today at old age. If only that was an app. I hope you feel good. Good night, Thank you all. I hope you're feel great, Thank you all. Beyond the Scenes. We'll be back with all new episodes on Tuesday. No. If you want to catch up on our past episodes, head to Daily show dot Com, Slash Beyond, the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you're listening right now. You're already here, go find more. This has been a Comedy Central podcast. Straw