Sara Blakely bombed the LSAT twice and sold fax machines door-to-door for seven years. It wasn’t until she cut the feet off a pair of pantyhose that she had the idea for Spanx, which would ultimately become a billion dollar brand with stores in more than fifty countries worldwide. In their conversation, Sara tells Bobbi the story you haven’t heard about creating the company that would become a household name. Sara and Bobbi also chat motherhood, being “a different kind of smart,” and the importance of messing up.

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