Carlton vice-president and CEO of Our Watch Patty Kinnersly joins Between Us to talk about footy’s role in driving social change, her love for the Blues, and her own football career

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From favourite footy moments to greatest fears, nothing is off-limits in 'Between Us', an all-new podcast from AFL Digital.

Every fortnight, star broadcasters Sarah Olle and Nat Edwards will be joined by a footy-loving guest to talk everything from their passion for the game to dealing with life, loss and love.

Join Nat and Sarah every fortnight wherever you get your podcasts.