Cal Twomey takes Sarah and Nat inside his exclusive one-on-one interview with Katy Perry, the AFL's headline act in Saturday's Grand Final at the MCG.
From favourite footy moments to greatest fears, nothing is off-limits in 'Between Us', an all-new podcast from AFL Digital.
Every fortnight, star broadcasters Sarah Olle and Nat Edwards will be joined by a footy-loving guest to talk everything from their passion for the game to dealing with life, loss and love.
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