Carlton legend Brett Ratten speaks candidly about dealing with his daughter Tilly's epilepsy diagnosis as well as the tragic death of his son Cooper in a car accident. 

Ratts details why he won't return to the senior coaching ranks after being given the opportunity to coach at both Carlton and St Kilda since retiring. 

To donate to the cause: www.walkforepilepsy.org.au 

From favourite footy moments to greatest fears, nothing is off-limits in 'Between Us', an all-new podcast from AFL Digital.

Every fortnight, star broadcasters Sarah Olle and Nat Edwards will be joined by a footy-loving guest to talk everything from their passion for the game to dealing with life, loss and love.

Join Nat and Sarah every fortnight wherever you get your podcasts.