Strap in, because this is one of the craziest stories we’ve told.

When the Taliban were at the height of their power in 2001, Abbas Nazari's parents were faced with a choice: stay and face persecution in their homeland of Aghanistan, or seek security for their young children elsewhere.

Abbas’ family chose to leave, and what happened next formed the storyline for his best selling book After The Tampa.

Abbas talks about escaping the Taliban as a young child, being adrift at sea as a refugee for weeks, the makings of the largest maritime rescue in modern history, which turned into an international standoff and finding home in Aoteraroa.

Then after arriving in NZ as an eight year old who spoke no English, Abbas went on to place third in the New Zealand Spelling Bee a few years later, played rep rugby, graduated from the University of Canterbury, was awarded a Fulbright scholarship in Washington DC and now owns two gyms and is one of NZ’s most in-demand speakers.

Abbas is a world-class storyteller, with one of the most incredible tales to tell. This was one of our favourite episodes we’ve done, and a real perspective shifter.

Listen on iheart or wherever you get your podcasts from, or watch the video on Youtube. And follow us on Insta and Tik Tok to see the best video clips from each ep.

Strap in, because this is one of the craziest stories we’ve told.
When the Taliban were at the height of their power in 2001, Abbas Nazari's parents were faced with a choice: stay and face persecution in their homeland of Aghanistan, or seek security for their young children elsewhere.
Abbas’ family chose to leave, and what happened next formed the storyline for his best selling book After The Tampa.
Abbas talks about escaping the Taliban as a young child, being adrift at sea as a refugee for weeks, the makings of the largest maritime rescue in modern history, which turned into an international standoff and finding home in Aoteraroa.
Then after arriving in NZ as an eight year old who spoke no English, Abbas went on to place third in the New Zealand Spelling Bee a few years later, played rep rugby, graduated from the University of Canterbury, was awarded a Fulbright scholarship in Washington DC and now owns two gyms and is one of NZ’s most in-demand speakers.
Abbas is a world-class storyteller, with one of the most incredible tales to tell. This was one of our favourite episodes we’ve done, and a real perspective shifter.
Listen on iheart or wherever you get your podcasts from, or watch the video on Youtube. And follow us on Insta and Tik Tok to see the best video clips from each ep.

Good questions. Great guests. Few beers... Steve and Seamus like asking good questions. And they love good answers. After over 20 years of friendship, they bought a microphone and started a podcast, allowing them to sit with, and learn from, the most interesting people they can access.

From Kiwi legend Marc Ellis, to media personalities Jeremy Wells and Paddy Gower, Rugby coach extraordinaire Wayne Smith, sexologist Morgan Penn, and Olympian Dame Lisa Carrington...  Between Two Beers has produced countless hours of incredible stories, career highs, lows and moments of raw vulnerability. And it’s only the beginning.

iHeartRadio NZ Podcast Network

Good questions. Great guests. Few beers... Steve and Seamus like asking good questions. And they love good answers. After over 20 years of friendship, they bought a microphone and started a podcast, allowing them to sit with, and learn from, the most interesting people they can access.
From Kiwi legend Marc Ellis, to media personalities Jeremy Wells and Paddy Gower, Rugby coach extraordinaire Wayne Smith, sexologist Morgan Penn, and Olympian Dame Lisa Carrington...  Between Two Beers has produced countless hours of incredible stories, career highs, lows and moments of raw vulnerability. And it’s only the beginning.
iHeartRadio NZ Podcast Network

Good questions. Great guests. Few beers....

Between Two Beers Podcast

Good questions. Great guests. Few beers... Steve and Seamus like asking good questions. And they love good answers. After over 20 years of friendship, they bought a microphone and started a podcast; allowing them to sit with, and learn from, the most interesting people they can access. 

From Kiwi legend Marc Ellis, to media personalities Jeremy Wells and Paddy Gower, Rugby coach extraordinaire Wayne Smith, sexologist Morgan Penn, and Olympian Dame Lisa Carrington...  Between Two Beers has produced countless hours of incredible stories, career highs, lows and moments of raw vulnerability. And it’s only the beginning.

Good questions. Great guests. Few beers... Steve and Seamus like asking good questions. And they love good answers. After over 20 years of friendship, they bought a microphone and started a podcast; allowing them to sit with, and learn from, the most interesting people they can access. From Kiwi legend Marc Ellis, to media personalities Jeremy Wells and Paddy Gower, Rugby coach extraordinaire Wayne Smith, sexologist Morgan Penn, and Olympian Dame Lisa Carrington...  Between Two Beers has produced countless hours of incredible stories, career highs, lows and moments of raw vulnerability. And it’s only the beginning.

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