Great to see you, Ramiley. Every rams win means another episode of Between the Horns, presented by your Southern California Toyota Dealers. Off to Philadelphia for the divisional round with Stu Jackson, DeMarco Farr I am JB.

Great to see you, Ramiley. Every rams win means another episode of Between the Horns, presented by your Southern California Toyota Dealers. Off to Philadelphia for the divisional round with Stu Jackson, DeMarco Farr I am JB.

Long.

Long.

We're still thinking of those of you who have become victims of these firestorms. What are you doing there tomorrow.

We're still thinking of those of you who have become victims of these firestorms. What are you doing there tomorrow.

Looking for your chocolate? We'll get sorry, go ahead.

Looking for your chocolate? We'll get sorry, go ahead.

We'll get here, But we want to reflect on a whole lot of things. The triumph on Monday, the opportunity ahead in these twenty twenty four playoffs. But good to see you guys. That was quite a memory that the team made, and really the organization made in Arizona.

We'll get here, But we want to reflect on a whole lot of things. The triumph on Monday, the opportunity ahead in these twenty twenty four playoffs. But good to see you guys. That was quite a memory that the team made, and really the organization made in Arizona.

I was thinking on the way over it might be right at the top of just most pride swelling moments of my life to be involved in something like that. It was sobering to think the game got moved and why we were in Arizona. But then the work that went into getting everybody down there and the team backing it up with a dominant victory. Just yeah, just one of the special moments on this side of the fence. As a broadcaster for a football team.

I was thinking on the way over it might be right at the top of just most pride swelling moments of my life to be involved in something like that. It was sobering to think the game got moved and why we were in Arizona. But then the work that went into getting everybody down there and the team backing it up with a dominant victory. Just yeah, just one of the special moments on this side of the fence. As a broadcaster for a football team.

Yeah, it wasn't the first time.

Yeah, it wasn't the first time.

Obviously this organization has dealt with the impact of wildfires. But you know what really struck me was just how quickly everybody mobilized and you know, put a plan in place and sprung into action with basically a third less time and not as many plans in place as far as like you know, twenty eighteen, like Colorado springs, like all that, Like you guys can probably test it better than I can, but like that that was already planned as far as practicing out there and things like that, Like it was not planned that last week until the game was obviously forced to be relocated, that it would be at the at the Cardinals facility. But you know, kind of the same as you, DeMarco, just like a lot of pride, and I was almost like choking back tiers at the end of the game because like just not only for you know, everything to work out the way it did, but also just the result and just the way that the displayed that the team or the performance of the team I should say, had, especially that pass rush. I mean it was.

Obviously this organization has dealt with the impact of wildfires. But you know what really struck me was just how quickly everybody mobilized and you know, put a plan in place and sprung into action with basically a third less time and not as many plans in place as far as like you know, twenty eighteen, like Colorado springs, like all that, Like you guys can probably test it better than I can, but like that that was already planned as far as practicing out there and things like that, Like it was not planned that last week until the game was obviously forced to be relocated, that it would be at the at the Cardinals facility. But you know, kind of the same as you, DeMarco, just like a lot of pride, and I was almost like choking back tiers at the end of the game because like just not only for you know, everything to work out the way it did, but also just the result and just the way that the displayed that the team or the performance of the team I should say, had, especially that pass rush. I mean it was.

Inspiring, really inspiring, inspiring.

Inspiring, really inspiring, inspiring.

And I know those sentiments, those emotions for me and for you were not just about joy for Sean McVay and Matthew Stafford and the players and the coaches who won, but so many and will resist the urge to drop names here because inevitably we'll forget someone who shouldn't be forgotten. But I think we all agree we were cheering for and happy for a lot of people with the RAMS who don't wear pads or helmets. Oh yeah, that won that game before it was even played, right, Well, that was an organizational triumph before it was a win in a wildcard game. And look, if you were able to be there, thank you so much. Yes, and we're so happy for you to have made that RAMS memory. If you wanted to be there but could not, hope you had a great game, watch or listen, however you ingested that one, you were there with us in spirit, and especially if you were planning to be at Sofi Stadium but were robbed at that opportunity because of this natural disaster. I'm sorry. Our hearts go out for you. Obviously we all wanted that, and who knows, maybe the stars will align that we'll have one more get together at Sofi Stadium before this is all said and.

And I know those sentiments, those emotions for me and for you were not just about joy for Sean McVay and Matthew Stafford and the players and the coaches who won, but so many and will resist the urge to drop names here because inevitably we'll forget someone who shouldn't be forgotten. But I think we all agree we were cheering for and happy for a lot of people with the RAMS who don't wear pads or helmets. Oh yeah, that won that game before it was even played, right, Well, that was an organizational triumph before it was a win in a wildcard game. And look, if you were able to be there, thank you so much. Yes, and we're so happy for you to have made that RAMS memory. If you wanted to be there but could not, hope you had a great game, watch or listen, however you ingested that one, you were there with us in spirit, and especially if you were planning to be at Sofi Stadium but were robbed at that opportunity because of this natural disaster. I'm sorry. Our hearts go out for you. Obviously we all wanted that, and who knows, maybe the stars will align that we'll have one more get together at Sofi Stadium before this is all said and.

That'd be fun.

That'd be fun.

I wanted to go back on one of those buses though. That had to be one cool trip.

I wanted to go back on one of those buses though. That had to be one cool trip.

That's a good point. I don't think i've heard enough stories about what that round trip was like. They're probably still sleeping it off.

That's a good point. I don't think i've heard enough stories about what that round trip was like. They're probably still sleeping it off.

I thought there'd be video something.

I thought there'd be video something.

I'm sure the ride back was a lot more fun than the ride up after that butt kicking down there in Arizona.

I'm sure the ride back was a lot more fun than the ride up after that butt kicking down there in Arizona.

Arizona, you know what else was awesome?

Arizona, you know what else was awesome?

And maybe I was too busy to understand that it was all going to come together this way. But to see like Aaron eric o'donald there, to see Tory there, Yes, to see coach Henny there. Yeah, like it was part playoff game, part super Bowl experience with the whole staff traveling, and part four family reunion. Like that was family reunion under adverse circumstances.

And maybe I was too busy to understand that it was all going to come together this way. But to see like Aaron eric o'donald there, to see Tory there, Yes, to see coach Henny there. Yeah, like it was part playoff game, part super Bowl experience with the whole staff traveling, and part four family reunion. Like that was family reunion under adverse circumstances.

That was the Rambley coming together special. And I'm just I'm really glad that this football team, Sean McVeagh and his group made it stand up and go out there and play their best game. And it was a playoff game. We have to remind ourselves that that was wild card weekend. There was a lot at stake for this football team. Outside of what was going on, and they got it done. They brought everything home.

That was the Rambley coming together special. And I'm just I'm really glad that this football team, Sean McVeagh and his group made it stand up and go out there and play their best game. And it was a playoff game. We have to remind ourselves that that was wild card weekend. There was a lot at stake for this football team. Outside of what was going on, and they got it done. They brought everything home.

So just a.

So just a.

Special weekend and a nine sack day with ad up in the box. I never thought i'd see that, no way.

Special weekend and a nine sack day with ad up in the box. I never thought i'd see that, no way.

Yeah, on this edition between the Horns will get our reflections on defense, on offense, and how it all applies to the next matchup, a rematch with the Philadelphia Eagles. But anecdotally, I want to react to something and see if you've observed this too. The roots of this organization in Los Angeles are growing deeper through moments like these, the branches are growing wider. I probably should admit that I was on the golf, of course recently we're still in season, but nonetheless I was, and I was struck by the amount of RAMS paraphernalia that I saw. Our local gas station has a RAMS house flag outside its doors. Now, my kids at school, the excitement on Tuesday morning was palpable, Like the way they were talking in their classmates were talking about the Rams. This is still a generational project. Yeah, but it's happening.

Yeah, on this edition between the Horns will get our reflections on defense, on offense, and how it all applies to the next matchup, a rematch with the Philadelphia Eagles. But anecdotally, I want to react to something and see if you've observed this too. The roots of this organization in Los Angeles are growing deeper through moments like these, the branches are growing wider. I probably should admit that I was on the golf, of course recently we're still in season, but nonetheless I was, and I was struck by the amount of RAMS paraphernalia that I saw. Our local gas station has a RAMS house flag outside its doors. Now, my kids at school, the excitement on Tuesday morning was palpable, Like the way they were talking in their classmates were talking about the Rams. This is still a generational project. Yeah, but it's happening.

I've been saying it for years since they've come back. What is the first part of the RAMS on this it's Los Angeles so I could care less who you used to root for when there was no team here, but your team is here. This is your football team. So this is how it starts. When the team puts LA on its back and just for a minute, for a weekend, just take your mind off what's going on for a second. This is how you build those deep roots with the fan base LA. The La Rams is coming in defense of Los Angeles.

I've been saying it for years since they've come back. What is the first part of the RAMS on this it's Los Angeles so I could care less who you used to root for when there was no team here, but your team is here. This is your football team. So this is how it starts. When the team puts LA on its back and just for a minute, for a weekend, just take your mind off what's going on for a second. This is how you build those deep roots with the fan base LA. The La Rams is coming in defense of Los Angeles.

You know what I mean?

You know what I mean?

This is your team, your city, your community, your everything, and it's all right here. So I well said JB.

This is your team, your city, your community, your everything, and it's all right here. So I well said JB.

Well, and it's the wins that are those signature moments, but it's also all the work that so many of us, especially the community team, are doing behind the scenes and off season, during season holidays that I think really really bring that home. Sean McVay has turned to saying his team and his Rams are built for this. I think we saw that on Monday night that New Ethos. What about the resiliency, But also Stu, what about what is left in the emotional tank coming off that really high high on Monday night.

Well, and it's the wins that are those signature moments, but it's also all the work that so many of us, especially the community team, are doing behind the scenes and off season, during season holidays that I think really really bring that home. Sean McVay has turned to saying his team and his Rams are built for this. I think we saw that on Monday night that New Ethos. What about the resiliency, But also Stu, what about what is left in the emotional tank coming off that really high high on Monday night.

Yeah, it's a great question, JB. I mean, how do you manage that you come off such an emotionally charged game and you know, a situation where in some cases coaches and players were you know, personally affected by you know those things. How do you how do you channel that into something that you know fuels you and motivates you even further without it getting you too high or like you were talking about with kind of that you know, emotional tank too low where you know you're running on close to empty and what's going to be a pivot game.

Yeah, it's a great question, JB. I mean, how do you manage that you come off such an emotionally charged game and you know, a situation where in some cases coaches and players were you know, personally affected by you know those things. How do you how do you channel that into something that you know fuels you and motivates you even further without it getting you too high or like you were talking about with kind of that you know, emotional tank too low where you know you're running on close to empty and what's going to be a pivot game.

Look, the fire is still going. There are people that are still without power, without their houses.

Look, the fire is still going. There are people that are still without power, without their houses.

This ain't over.

This ain't over.

So it was one game, sure, but it doesn't go away just because you won.

So it was one game, sure, but it doesn't go away just because you won.

You carry this forward.

You carry this forward.

This is something that, like you said, galvanizes a community, and galvanize is a football team. We have been looking for something. We have been talking about this football team for this entire season about seizing control of the game and they need a spark. It seems like they found one. They have found one and they are carrying the city on their backs. And I think they are comfortable with that. When you talk about being built for it, what haven't they been through? Seriously, everything international travel, playing on the East Coast in the early window, everything they've been through. So yeah, they are built for any environment you could throw them, and they always seem to come out not on top, but at least they are attacking the challenge. So going to Philadelphia will be right in line with what they've already done.

This is something that, like you said, galvanizes a community, and galvanize is a football team. We have been looking for something. We have been talking about this football team for this entire season about seizing control of the game and they need a spark. It seems like they found one. They have found one and they are carrying the city on their backs. And I think they are comfortable with that. When you talk about being built for it, what haven't they been through? Seriously, everything international travel, playing on the East Coast in the early window, everything they've been through. So yeah, they are built for any environment you could throw them, and they always seem to come out not on top, but at least they are attacking the challenge. So going to Philadelphia will be right in line with what they've already done.

You're touching on something there that I think is worth following up on. The twenty one championship team had to shared purpose and urgency and identity that I've never seen in any other sports team that I've covered. I don't expect that to be replicated by the Rams or any other entity for the rest of my life, but I do think what you said is correct that for a team this year in twenty twenty four that probably didn't have that shared purpose or motivation at the midway point, it's there now.

You're touching on something there that I think is worth following up on. The twenty one championship team had to shared purpose and urgency and identity that I've never seen in any other sports team that I've covered. I don't expect that to be replicated by the Rams or any other entity for the rest of my life, but I do think what you said is correct that for a team this year in twenty twenty four that probably didn't have that shared purpose or motivation at the midway point, it's there now.

It's not theirs, right, Yeah, they we talked about He talks about it. Sean McVay talks about being connected. It's so obvious when you go around the room postgame and they're all saying the same thing in different ways without being prompted. That is a connected football team. So not there yet, not done. The job is not done. But I'm glad he said built for anything because it's shown right now.

It's not theirs, right, Yeah, they we talked about He talks about it. Sean McVay talks about being connected. It's so obvious when you go around the room postgame and they're all saying the same thing in different ways without being prompted. That is a connected football team. So not there yet, not done. The job is not done. But I'm glad he said built for anything because it's shown right now.

And to that point, JB. I think about in that twenty one season when guys were like, I want to win it for Eric Weddle, I want to win for Big Win, I want to win it for Aaron Donalds. Like you kind of get that same sense amongst this team too, where I mean, as cliche as it sounds like, you can tell just with the way these guys interact and the camaraderie they have that they are truly such a selfless team that they that they want to win this thing for each other.

And to that point, JB. I think about in that twenty one season when guys were like, I want to win it for Eric Weddle, I want to win for Big Win, I want to win it for Aaron Donalds. Like you kind of get that same sense amongst this team too, where I mean, as cliche as it sounds like, you can tell just with the way these guys interact and the camaraderie they have that they are truly such a selfless team that they that they want to win this thing for each other.

Yeah, they all in label was misapplied. It was an FM pick sort of like they mortgage their future. That was good, and we've had that conversation. But really where they were all in is all in for each other to lift that Lombardi Trophy in a way that I think you're right. This group is coming together in that way. Now, whether they can accomplish the same feat a lot to be accomplished there, and to take everyone behind the curtain a little bit, because we all work in the media space, like we study these matchups week to week. Seven fifty am Tuesday morning, the Philadelphia Eagles press release hit my inbox and I'm like, you know, coming off of a few hours of sleep getting the kids to school, and it was almost like the opponent this week is rubbing it in your face, like we're ready, Can you get ready in time? Because it's a rush order, it's a short week, it's a long turnaround Arizona La Philadelphia.

Yeah, they all in label was misapplied. It was an FM pick sort of like they mortgage their future. That was good, and we've had that conversation. But really where they were all in is all in for each other to lift that Lombardi Trophy in a way that I think you're right. This group is coming together in that way. Now, whether they can accomplish the same feat a lot to be accomplished there, and to take everyone behind the curtain a little bit, because we all work in the media space, like we study these matchups week to week. Seven fifty am Tuesday morning, the Philadelphia Eagles press release hit my inbox and I'm like, you know, coming off of a few hours of sleep getting the kids to school, and it was almost like the opponent this week is rubbing it in your face, like we're ready, Can you get ready in time? Because it's a rush order, it's a short week, it's a long turnaround Arizona La Philadelphia.

They're all banged up. Everybody's banged up. Everybody's going through the same stuff right now, and you know those games can't get here quick enough. But this is your Ivan Drago, this is the six hundred pound elephant in the room. You got to go through Philadelphia to get to where you want to go. As far as being connected, I think the Rams might be the best team in the league. Now are they the most talented? We're gonna find out because I think Philadelphia definitely fits that mode. So this game will It'll take all four quarters to decide. So this connectivity, what we're talking about, will come to play and be tested in Philadelphia.

They're all banged up. Everybody's banged up. Everybody's going through the same stuff right now, and you know those games can't get here quick enough. But this is your Ivan Drago, this is the six hundred pound elephant in the room. You got to go through Philadelphia to get to where you want to go. As far as being connected, I think the Rams might be the best team in the league. Now are they the most talented? We're gonna find out because I think Philadelphia definitely fits that mode. So this game will It'll take all four quarters to decide. So this connectivity, what we're talking about, will come to play and be tested in Philadelphia.

That being said, Monday Nights Win is a line that I think we've all crossed together. And what I mean by that is, I don't know how anyone could argue that whatever happens from this point forward twenty twenty four was anything other than a resounding success. Has the year been a successful season for you? If the Rams don't win another game, what do you think?

That being said, Monday Nights Win is a line that I think we've all crossed together. And what I mean by that is, I don't know how anyone could argue that whatever happens from this point forward twenty twenty four was anything other than a resounding success. Has the year been a successful season for you? If the Rams don't win another game, what do you think?

I mean?

I mean?

I don't want to be that guy.

I don't want to be that guy.

Go ahead, Okay, yeah, I would say you hope that this team achieves more than it already has to this point. But when you consider how few people outside of the building gave them a shot when they were one and four, dealing with a bunch of injuries and just not thinking that they would be in the position they are now, I would say even just rebounding from that and reaching the postseason is like something to be proud of and something to celebrate. But again, I go back to not wanting that run to end by this weekend.

Go ahead, Okay, yeah, I would say you hope that this team achieves more than it already has to this point. But when you consider how few people outside of the building gave them a shot when they were one and four, dealing with a bunch of injuries and just not thinking that they would be in the position they are now, I would say even just rebounding from that and reaching the postseason is like something to be proud of and something to celebrate. But again, I go back to not wanting that run to end by this weekend.

I feel that you're going. But you swept San Francisco, right, that's a great season. You won the NFC West. That is a triumph. You went from one to four, like you said, to hosting and winning a playoff game. I think for where this franchise, in this group is, that's a great season. And now you've got house money. Now just go cut it loose in Philly and get greedy and go for more.

I feel that you're going. But you swept San Francisco, right, that's a great season. You won the NFC West. That is a triumph. You went from one to four, like you said, to hosting and winning a playoff game. I think for where this franchise, in this group is, that's a great season. And now you've got house money. Now just go cut it loose in Philly and get greedy and go for more.

I'm all for it to shut up a bunch of haters, sure, but I thought this was a championship or bust expectation because of how your team is constructed, especially at quarterback. You've only got so much time with Matthew Stafford, so you want to squeeze every drop out of his talent that you can. So I thought the goal was Lombardi's. So just to shut people up, Great, you made the playoffs, you won a playoff game. Awesome, I'm with you. It is something to celebrate. And I'll go back to something that someone told me. Mike Martz told me his biggest regret as a coach was not celebrating the NFC championship game. He treated that as a failure. He said, that's wrong. So you should celebrate where you are. You should celebrate winning a wild card game, winning a playoff football game. But that ain't the only goal. The goal is the Lombardi. Yeah, the goal is your second since Stafford's been here, your second in the McVeigh.

I'm all for it to shut up a bunch of haters, sure, but I thought this was a championship or bust expectation because of how your team is constructed, especially at quarterback. You've only got so much time with Matthew Stafford, so you want to squeeze every drop out of his talent that you can. So I thought the goal was Lombardi's. So just to shut people up, Great, you made the playoffs, you won a playoff game. Awesome, I'm with you. It is something to celebrate. And I'll go back to something that someone told me. Mike Martz told me his biggest regret as a coach was not celebrating the NFC championship game. He treated that as a failure. He said, that's wrong. So you should celebrate where you are. You should celebrate winning a wild card game, winning a playoff football game. But that ain't the only goal. The goal is the Lombardi. Yeah, the goal is your second since Stafford's been here, your second in the McVeigh.

Are We said Monday night that inevitably there are several Rams who are down to their last loss as Rams. That's life in the National Football League. We just said, let that not be tonight, let that not be this week, because I think we're all touching around the same sentiment, which is I had forgotten just how addictive the NFL postseason can be. When you are privileged to be with a team that advances, you'll do anything for one more week on the job, one more week.

Are We said Monday night that inevitably there are several Rams who are down to their last loss as Rams. That's life in the National Football League. We just said, let that not be tonight, let that not be this week, because I think we're all touching around the same sentiment, which is I had forgotten just how addictive the NFL postseason can be. When you are privileged to be with a team that advances, you'll do anything for one more week on the job, one more week.

Absolutely, we study the same stat pages and when you go through and your regular season stats can get very long, but those postseasons get very short. You know what I mean, because there's only a few teams left, and this is exactly where you want to be. And to me, this is where you make stars. This is where legendary careers are born. This is where Hall of Fame careers are cemented or lost. Like you said, I've heard this before out of I know if it's true, but it's funny. Sam Darnold lost money in that game. Well that's what the playoffs do. You can also make money the other way. So it's big. It's everything. The air gets rarefied and very thin up here, but every team you face from here on out is good. Like and I said this before, this is where the all pros live. If you want to know where the best players are playing, they're usually playing on these sort of days this time of year. So if you want to be one of those guys be dominant.

Absolutely, we study the same stat pages and when you go through and your regular season stats can get very long, but those postseasons get very short. You know what I mean, because there's only a few teams left, and this is exactly where you want to be. And to me, this is where you make stars. This is where legendary careers are born. This is where Hall of Fame careers are cemented or lost. Like you said, I've heard this before out of I know if it's true, but it's funny. Sam Darnold lost money in that game. Well that's what the playoffs do. You can also make money the other way. So it's big. It's everything. The air gets rarefied and very thin up here, but every team you face from here on out is good. Like and I said this before, this is where the all pros live. If you want to know where the best players are playing, they're usually playing on these sort of days this time of year. So if you want to be one of those guys be dominant.

It's so funny because we've spent the better part of the last two months talking about scenarios and what needs to happen, and now here you are in the Elite eight and there's not many options left. One of three things is going to happen for the Los Angeles Rams this weekend. They're gonna lose. Their season is going to end and that's that. Or they win, and if they win, buh oh. They're going back to Detroit for Round three against Dan Campbell, Jared Goff and the Lions. And you know me, I've said all along, it feels like this season is destined to go through Detroit one more time. Or option three. Door three is if you win and both upsets happen both lower seeded road teams win, you're gonna be hosting a rookie quarterback in the Washington Commanders at SOFI Staium in the NFC Championship game. From the Rams lens. We're down to the final three choices.

It's so funny because we've spent the better part of the last two months talking about scenarios and what needs to happen, and now here you are in the Elite eight and there's not many options left. One of three things is going to happen for the Los Angeles Rams this weekend. They're gonna lose. Their season is going to end and that's that. Or they win, and if they win, buh oh. They're going back to Detroit for Round three against Dan Campbell, Jared Goff and the Lions. And you know me, I've said all along, it feels like this season is destined to go through Detroit one more time. Or option three. Door three is if you win and both upsets happen both lower seeded road teams win, you're gonna be hosting a rookie quarterback in the Washington Commanders at SOFI Staium in the NFC Championship game. From the Rams lens. We're down to the final three choices.

You gotta do is beat Philly.

You gotta do is beat Philly.

All you gotta do beat Philadelphia Easier said than done. A lot of questions they present, but yeah, going back to Detroit would be very intriguing having the home game. That's the goal. Come on, that's what everybody wants. That would be something special, especially with what's going on in Los Angeles right now. Having that game here would be something special. But going back to Detroit one more time, it and over and.

All you gotta do beat Philadelphia Easier said than done. A lot of questions they present, but yeah, going back to Detroit would be very intriguing having the home game. That's the goal. Come on, that's what everybody wants. That would be something special, especially with what's going on in Los Angeles right now. Having that game here would be something special. But going back to Detroit one more time, it and over and.

Over between these there's only one door that I don't want this team to walk.

Over between these there's only one door that I don't want this team to walk.

Through, and that is those three. Oh, the first.

Through, and that is those three. Oh, the first.

One, okay, and we'll get to the goal and just what a monumental task that's going to be a little bit later on, But I think we'll also use our reflections from the win of the Vikings to spin the narrative forward in terms of takeaways on both sides of the football and how they applied the rematch with the Eagles.

One, okay, and we'll get to the goal and just what a monumental task that's going to be a little bit later on, But I think we'll also use our reflections from the win of the Vikings to spin the narrative forward in terms of takeaways on both sides of the football and how they applied the rematch with the Eagles.

Be going back to Detroit, I'm just saying, oh, go ahead, I'm sorry, go ahead.

Be going back to Detroit, I'm just saying, oh, go ahead, I'm sorry, go ahead.

Sing me both.

Sing me both.

Yeah. Uh.

Yeah. Uh.

DeMarco and all of our years together has been right to point out that too often we start on offense. We're not going to make that mistake today, especially after the performance that Chris Shula and had and staff and players had on Monday night, Like what a perfect mix of borrowing from the blueprint that the line set forward I think the week prior, but tailoring it to the ideal rams ingredient.

DeMarco and all of our years together has been right to point out that too often we start on offense. We're not going to make that mistake today, especially after the performance that Chris Shula and had and staff and players had on Monday night, Like what a perfect mix of borrowing from the blueprint that the line set forward I think the week prior, but tailoring it to the ideal rams ingredient.

You know, it's funny when you send all out blitzes and I like it if you're up tempo. Minnesota was up tempo. But the one thing it does is it stifles your creativity upfront as a defensive lineman because you're stuck to one gap, because you're bringing guys through other gaps, so you're taking away half of what they do. I'm glad Chris you eula resisted the urge to just copy that blueprint and just rely on what got you here, that defensive front. Being creative, Uh, just wrecking shop, jumping up the field. If you show too much at attention to the edge, guys and verse and be young, we're bringing it. You're gonna open yourself up for Fisk and Turner. And that is exactly what happened. They got after him up front. Every single time they adjusted their protection covered, somebody else beat them up the field. So and then you brought those timely blisters that just got after Sam Darnald. It was a masterful game plan. It was a great job by the defensive line and the defensive unit getting after Sam Donald and just being on the same page. The communication was outstanding, the pursuit was even better.

You know, it's funny when you send all out blitzes and I like it if you're up tempo. Minnesota was up tempo. But the one thing it does is it stifles your creativity upfront as a defensive lineman because you're stuck to one gap, because you're bringing guys through other gaps, so you're taking away half of what they do. I'm glad Chris you eula resisted the urge to just copy that blueprint and just rely on what got you here, that defensive front. Being creative, Uh, just wrecking shop, jumping up the field. If you show too much at attention to the edge, guys and verse and be young, we're bringing it. You're gonna open yourself up for Fisk and Turner. And that is exactly what happened. They got after him up front. Every single time they adjusted their protection covered, somebody else beat them up the field. So and then you brought those timely blisters that just got after Sam Darnald. It was a masterful game plan. It was a great job by the defensive line and the defensive unit getting after Sam Donald and just being on the same page. The communication was outstanding, the pursuit was even better.

The will, the want to get there otherworldly.

The will, the want to get there otherworldly.

Like you said, playing for the City of la you could tell that front was playing for something deeper.

Like you said, playing for the City of la you could tell that front was playing for something deeper.

You talked about the money that Sam Donald likely cost himself, and I think it's a fair question to wonder, like what percentage of Monday Night was him unspooling at the end of a Pro Bowl season and what percentage was what the Rams did. I honestly don't care. Yeah, I don't think it matters one iota because you got the job done.

You talked about the money that Sam Donald likely cost himself, and I think it's a fair question to wonder, like what percentage of Monday Night was him unspooling at the end of a Pro Bowl season and what percentage was what the Rams did. I honestly don't care. Yeah, I don't think it matters one iota because you got the job done.

The only thing I got steamed about was and I heard that Minnesota's play by play guys were going after Sam Darky. He's holding the ball too long? Okay, My first question is why do you think he's holding it. It's a great plan. They're taking people away. He had no other option, and he got hit a bunch of times. Give the defense credit for discombobulating him. Don't just dump it on him for holding the football. There was a reason he looked that way, and it was that front getting after.

The only thing I got steamed about was and I heard that Minnesota's play by play guys were going after Sam Darky. He's holding the ball too long? Okay, My first question is why do you think he's holding it. It's a great plan. They're taking people away. He had no other option, and he got hit a bunch of times. Give the defense credit for discombobulating him. Don't just dump it on him for holding the football. There was a reason he looked that way, and it was that front getting after.

I mean, team radio guys don't know what they're talking well, Stu, what about the fact that they had nine sacks and none of them came from the first round pick who had his own highlight. We'll get there in a second, but none of them came from Jared Verse.

I mean, team radio guys don't know what they're talking well, Stu, what about the fact that they had nine sacks and none of them came from the first round pick who had his own highlight. We'll get there in a second, but none of them came from Jared Verse.

Yeah, it was the I want to say, it was eight different players who had at least half a sack, which was the first time since nineteen eighty two, when sacks officially became a stat that that had been the case. So yeah, just really getting after it. I thought it was the best example of everybody owning their roles and knowing where their ops were. Because when I talked to Kobe Turner about this earlier in the season, as far as just the strides the pass rush had made, and you know when they were really starting to find in their roof in the middle of the year, and that was one of the things he pointed to, was just guys knowing when their ops are learning how to play off of each other. And there's no better time for that to hit its peak than right now.

Yeah, it was the I want to say, it was eight different players who had at least half a sack, which was the first time since nineteen eighty two, when sacks officially became a stat that that had been the case. So yeah, just really getting after it. I thought it was the best example of everybody owning their roles and knowing where their ops were. Because when I talked to Kobe Turner about this earlier in the season, as far as just the strides the pass rush had made, and you know when they were really starting to find in their roof in the middle of the year, and that was one of the things he pointed to, was just guys knowing when their ops are learning how to play off of each other. And there's no better time for that to hit its peak than right now.

MVP Kobe Turner, I just have to say that the degree of difficulty to go from nose to pass rush threat, we can't talk about that enough. I need you to be the tough guy. I need you to be the spine of the defense. Not move if they run the football, and then if they pass it, be active in the pass rush. And he did both with a plumb and get everybody lined up. Kobe Turner, I see.

MVP Kobe Turner, I just have to say that the degree of difficulty to go from nose to pass rush threat, we can't talk about that enough. I need you to be the tough guy. I need you to be the spine of the defense. Not move if they run the football, and then if they pass it, be active in the pass rush. And he did both with a plumb and get everybody lined up. Kobe Turner, I see.

You, man well said two questions about the Jared Verse scoop and score. First of all, oh, where did Bobby Brown come from? Did he teleport to the end zone right there following the flip?

You, man well said two questions about the Jared Verse scoop and score. First of all, oh, where did Bobby Brown come from? Did he teleport to the end zone right there following the flip?

Don't know, don't know, trapdoor, I don't know.

Don't know, don't know, trapdoor, I don't know.

Yeah, I was gonna say, I don't think I saw any of those on the sideline and I was wandering around down their pregame. But impressive a bill to just emerge in the frame.

Yeah, I was gonna say, I don't think I saw any of those on the sideline and I was wandering around down their pregame. But impressive a bill to just emerge in the frame.

Yeah, and he timed it well thankfully not a penalty.

Yeah, and he timed it well thankfully not a penalty.

Yeah, is that true?

Yeah, is that true?

Jared Versus was the fastest guy in the field. They clocked his mph and he was the fastest guy out there.

Jared Versus was the fastest guy in the field. They clocked his mph and he was the fastest guy out there.

Almost twenty miles per hour I think was his GP.

Almost twenty miles per hour I think was his GP.

Oh my god, that's Jim Brown.

Oh my god, that's Jim Brown.

People forget like we've talked about this with Jared. He was a skill position player in high school. I think he only had a couple of reps on defense at end before he became a collegiate.

People forget like we've talked about this with Jared. He was a skill position player in high school. I think he only had a couple of reps on defense at end before he became a collegiate.

Oh you know what I was thinking, Oh, goal line, let's go.

Oh you know what I was thinking, Oh, goal line, let's go.

Did you hear what he was thinking? So my other question was what was your reaction miked up where he goes right to mcveigh's like, I need a fade ball there you go. Give it to him in the midst of a wild card playoff.

Did you hear what he was thinking? So my other question was what was your reaction miked up where he goes right to mcveigh's like, I need a fade ball there you go. Give it to him in the midst of a wild card playoff.

Absolutely, give it to him.

Absolutely, give it to him.

We got top coverage too, because Russian coverage always go hand in hand. And what I loved about Monday night is over the last couple of weeks, it's been a Kellow or Kobe and how do you find that right combination? The other night it was both the land shark pulling the DeMarco far again with a pick and a sack.

We got top coverage too, because Russian coverage always go hand in hand. And what I loved about Monday night is over the last couple of weeks, it's been a Kellow or Kobe and how do you find that right combination? The other night it was both the land shark pulling the DeMarco far again with a pick and a sack.

Oh nice getting in there.

Oh nice getting in there.

Look, I think all the corners they played well, and there were a lot of challenges that Minnesota likes to try to throw at you. They want to get the ball deep. But I do love the discipline of the secondary. If I've got the left hip or the right hip of said receiver, they stayed with that hip and trusted their people over the top. Or if you're going to bracket, I'm going to do my job and make sure I focus on my responsibility and not worry about what's going on behind me. That is a defense that trusts each other. That's a secondary that understands what we're trying to get done and how we're trying to take away. And I'm trusting our guys are going to get there on the pass rush and it worked out. But sending those guys on blitzes. The hit by a Kello was Wow, good lord, that's a big due that unloaded on a quarterback and got the ball out. Now he didn't make him fumble. The ball shot out of there. So those corners that the secondary as a whole played a great football game around what the front man not.

Look, I think all the corners they played well, and there were a lot of challenges that Minnesota likes to try to throw at you. They want to get the ball deep. But I do love the discipline of the secondary. If I've got the left hip or the right hip of said receiver, they stayed with that hip and trusted their people over the top. Or if you're going to bracket, I'm going to do my job and make sure I focus on my responsibility and not worry about what's going on behind me. That is a defense that trusts each other. That's a secondary that understands what we're trying to get done and how we're trying to take away. And I'm trusting our guys are going to get there on the pass rush and it worked out. But sending those guys on blitzes. The hit by a Kello was Wow, good lord, that's a big due that unloaded on a quarterback and got the ball out. Now he didn't make him fumble. The ball shot out of there. So those corners that the secondary as a whole played a great football game around what the front man not.

Quinn Lake had a sneaky good game. It's some timely moments.

Quinn Lake had a sneaky good game. It's some timely moments.

Stude.

Stude.

Let me sell you on something, because DeMarco and MJD weren't having it. They were laughing me off. But I think cam Kinchins made an adjustment on that four and long throw, and now that he's been through it, he pulled off of that and didn't intercept it intentionally.

Let me sell you on something, because DeMarco and MJD weren't having it. They were laughing me off. But I think cam Kinchins made an adjustment on that four and long throw, and now that he's been through it, he pulled off of that and didn't intercept it intentionally.

I'd agree with either.

I'd agree with either.

Thank you, Stu.

Thank you, Stu.

You mean the one he dropped, You mean he purposely dropped it? Okay, Yeah, he probably dropped it worked. Yeah, they're going to get the.

You mean the one he dropped, You mean he purposely dropped it? Okay, Yeah, he probably dropped it worked. Yeah, they're going to get the.

Ball out where they got Let's get to offense, and again we kind of want to start to transition to how the plan offense and defense applies to Philadelphia. There's plenty of that to come. But where do you start in terms of what was a fast start and an effective game plan executed by Matthew Stafford and joh McVay.

Ball out where they got Let's get to offense, and again we kind of want to start to transition to how the plan offense and defense applies to Philadelphia. There's plenty of that to come. But where do you start in terms of what was a fast start and an effective game plan executed by Matthew Stafford and joh McVay.

I would start with the quarterback.

I would start with the quarterback.

When you he came up fireing, he was you know, look, Minnesota, Brian Flores, they had a great plan, or at least their plan was to put as much pressure on Matthew.

When you he came up fireing, he was you know, look, Minnesota, Brian Flores, they had a great plan, or at least their plan was to put as much pressure on Matthew.

Stafford as possible.

Stafford as possible.

How many times did they rush seven or six trying to get pressure in Stafford's face? And they got home a few times with those stunts. Some of those guys were coming scott free to Matthew Stafford. Problem is the ball was gone already. So if you want to start with any praise on offense, start with him and then work your way out from there. But I'll tell you this one thing about the offensive line. Life is better when Rob Havenstein is at right tackle. Oh my god, he's so big, he's so smart. His football. IQ is off the charts, and he can just make a guy go cold with one punch, you know what I mean. So that just takes the front side away a lark Jackson on the back side, great too. Up the middle, they got home a few times. Great job by the running backs with Matthew Stafford getting the ball out on time with velocity.

How many times did they rush seven or six trying to get pressure in Stafford's face? And they got home a few times with those stunts. Some of those guys were coming scott free to Matthew Stafford. Problem is the ball was gone already. So if you want to start with any praise on offense, start with him and then work your way out from there. But I'll tell you this one thing about the offensive line. Life is better when Rob Havenstein is at right tackle. Oh my god, he's so big, he's so smart. His football. IQ is off the charts, and he can just make a guy go cold with one punch, you know what I mean. So that just takes the front side away a lark Jackson on the back side, great too. Up the middle, they got home a few times. Great job by the running backs with Matthew Stafford getting the ball out on time with velocity.

That was the game for me, unless I forget. Rob was not there when the Rams played the Eagles. And I think you're right. Not only does he make right tackle better, I think he makes right guard and maybe even center a little bit better too, which.

That was the game for me, unless I forget. Rob was not there when the Rams played the Eagles. And I think you're right. Not only does he make right tackle better, I think he makes right guard and maybe even center a little bit better too, which.

Makes your quarterback better. I can trust that side. Just deal here. Oh my god, having him back was big.

Makes your quarterback better. I can trust that side. Just deal here. Oh my god, having him back was big.

I just love to start that. Tyler Higbee got off too. I mean, I think he's still in it. Even though he left the game due to injury. I think he still finished as the team's leading receiver. And to say with those five catches for fifty eight yards, but just his involvement and him being back and made me, you know, feel grateful that you know he's healthy and able to contribute in that way.

I just love to start that. Tyler Higbee got off too. I mean, I think he's still in it. Even though he left the game due to injury. I think he still finished as the team's leading receiver. And to say with those five catches for fifty eight yards, but just his involvement and him being back and made me, you know, feel grateful that you know he's healthy and able to contribute in that way.

To this off.

To this off.

We can't say fine, but I think we're hopefully trending in the right direction. I want to be optimistic. It seems like the Rams are optimistic.

We can't say fine, but I think we're hopefully trending in the right direction. I want to be optimistic. It seems like the Rams are optimistic.

I do know this. If he's breathing, he's playing.

I do know this. If he's breathing, he's playing.

Yeah, yeah, good luck keeping him off the playing. Yeah to Philadelphia, and he was one of them. Cooper was another. But the targets won at the catch point and that was one of our keys last week on this show is Yeah, Matthew's got to have that look in his eye. He's got to have one of those soul snatching nights. And he did. But there were some balls that he trusted his targets to go out and get. Higbee did it early. Cooper did it on his one clutch targets.

Yeah, yeah, good luck keeping him off the playing. Yeah to Philadelphia, and he was one of them. Cooper was another. But the targets won at the catch point and that was one of our keys last week on this show is Yeah, Matthew's got to have that look in his eye. He's got to have one of those soul snatching nights. And he did. But there were some balls that he trusted his targets to go out and get. Higbee did it early. Cooper did it on his one clutch targets.

Oh man, the one the Hunter long was right there and that I think that's the one he needed.

Oh man, the one the Hunter long was right there and that I think that's the one he needed.

It was right there.

It was right there.

It would have been a big play, but he was on the money with his sorrows beating the defense to the spot with the football.

It would have been a big play, but he was on the money with his sorrows beating the defense to the spot with the football.

But it was just his.

But it was just his.

Timing and there was a play. Oh my god, I wish I could remember the quarter. It was early in the football game, and it's so great. It's like Dad coming down from upstairs. So you've got Bowlemer and Steve Abula call out the protections, Stafford goes walks up and goes no here and then backs up. Kiren, you got him, motion hike, boom, ball out. I mean, that's perfect. That's what I love about veteran quarterbacks. Nothing is left unchecked. And even if if you call it, if he doesn't like it, he's going to redirect you. I thought that was absolutely beautiful. He is taking control of the huddle.

Timing and there was a play. Oh my god, I wish I could remember the quarter. It was early in the football game, and it's so great. It's like Dad coming down from upstairs. So you've got Bowlemer and Steve Abula call out the protections, Stafford goes walks up and goes no here and then backs up. Kiren, you got him, motion hike, boom, ball out. I mean, that's perfect. That's what I love about veteran quarterbacks. Nothing is left unchecked. And even if if you call it, if he doesn't like it, he's going to redirect you. I thought that was absolutely beautiful. He is taking control of the huddle.

Speaking of Limmer, a couple things that I think we all agree have to be sharper this week for the Rams to have a chance to pull off this upset. The penalties piled up, and I think it's a two touchdown lead, it's a fourteen zero lead if not for that Limber penalty. There was a hold on Jordan Whittington, which whatever, I think that prevented the Rams from really putting the hammer down with their running game at that point. But penalties can't happen this week against the Eagles and ball security too. Like Matthew Stafford got away with one. That's who he is. We know him as the guy who was definitely throwing a pass there, broaching it not to get called for either grounding or the scoop and score and then look, Kyron, I know it was like tackled in a very awkward position. But because his fumble against the Eagles is top of mind, I know for all of us it was a great effort. It wasn't a letter perfect effort. This feels like the week where you do not have that margin for air that you enjoyed against the Vikings.

Speaking of Limmer, a couple things that I think we all agree have to be sharper this week for the Rams to have a chance to pull off this upset. The penalties piled up, and I think it's a two touchdown lead, it's a fourteen zero lead if not for that Limber penalty. There was a hold on Jordan Whittington, which whatever, I think that prevented the Rams from really putting the hammer down with their running game at that point. But penalties can't happen this week against the Eagles and ball security too. Like Matthew Stafford got away with one. That's who he is. We know him as the guy who was definitely throwing a pass there, broaching it not to get called for either grounding or the scoop and score and then look, Kyron, I know it was like tackled in a very awkward position. But because his fumble against the Eagles is top of mind, I know for all of us it was a great effort. It wasn't a letter perfect effort. This feels like the week where you do not have that margin for air that you enjoyed against the Vikings.

Well, and those those penalties and self inflicted mistakes overall were what I felt like really killed the momentum that the offense had started to get against the Eagles in the first matchup, and especially going into environment like link in Financial Field in Philly, Like that's that's a situation where you cannot afford to have those or you need to minimize them as much as possible.

Well, and those those penalties and self inflicted mistakes overall were what I felt like really killed the momentum that the offense had started to get against the Eagles in the first matchup, and especially going into environment like link in Financial Field in Philly, Like that's that's a situation where you cannot afford to have those or you need to minimize them as much as possible.

Bow good job, Yeah, I mean look, good job because it didn't cost It was just it just it was the crew that flagged that. I mean, should it have been a flag?

Bow good job, Yeah, I mean look, good job because it didn't cost It was just it just it was the crew that flagged that. I mean, should it have been a flag?

Eh?

Eh?

It was close.

It was close.

The whistle blew right when he hit him, so be it. But I know they're trying to clean up stuff around the pile. But I love his aggression. He's not gonna let you tag his guy without you know, him coming down to be protective.

The whistle blew right when he hit him, so be it. But I know they're trying to clean up stuff around the pile. But I love his aggression. He's not gonna let you tag his guy without you know, him coming down to be protective.

That's what you want offense?

That's what you want offense?

Blindman to hear Sean McVay tell it, it seemed like the Rams dialed it down, scaled it back a little bit when they felt like they had firm game control. Is that a good thing? That they maybe have more left in their inventory that they didn't show that He was.

Blindman to hear Sean McVay tell it, it seemed like the Rams dialed it down, scaled it back a little bit when they felt like they had firm game control. Is that a good thing? That they maybe have more left in their inventory that they didn't show that He was.

Going to ask you, does that show growth from Sean McVay, Like way back in seventeen eighteen, when he first took the gig and he was pedal to the medal, I wonder if he would have slowed down on offense. I wonder if he would have even had thought to let's save some stuff for next week. Because I thought that was very astute, that's very forward thinking. We got it, the pressures all on them. I've got an eighteen point lead, You've got to chase me down. Why would I show you or my next opponent anything until I have to? I thought that was very smart.

Going to ask you, does that show growth from Sean McVay, Like way back in seventeen eighteen, when he first took the gig and he was pedal to the medal, I wonder if he would have slowed down on offense. I wonder if he would have even had thought to let's save some stuff for next week. Because I thought that was very astute, that's very forward thinking. We got it, the pressures all on them. I've got an eighteen point lead, You've got to chase me down. Why would I show you or my next opponent anything until I have to? I thought that was very smart.

Are we ready for that next opponent? Any final thoughts on the Vikings and the win that was Monday? Or should we transition?

Are we ready for that next opponent? Any final thoughts on the Vikings and the win that was Monday? Or should we transition?

Hell of a job.

Hell of a job.

I thought they had a game plan, but I thought the Rams rose to the occasion. But we said, of all the opponents, to pick. I thought Minnesota was the one you wanted to see, and I'm glad the Rams did what we thought they could do, go out and dominate the football game.

I thought they had a game plan, but I thought the Rams rose to the occasion. But we said, of all the opponents, to pick. I thought Minnesota was the one you wanted to see, and I'm glad the Rams did what we thought they could do, go out and dominate the football game.

Yeah, I think that was the most advantageous mashup matchup, especially for the defensive front when you consider that Christian Daris saw their starting left tackle got injured in the first meeting between those two teams, and that you know, clearly had an impact on their offensive line ended up working on the right.

Yeah, I think that was the most advantageous mashup matchup, especially for the defensive front when you consider that Christian Daris saw their starting left tackle got injured in the first meeting between those two teams, and that you know, clearly had an impact on their offensive line ended up working on the right.

Verse heard him there you go.

Verse heard him there you go.

Is the opposite of what you guys just said true this week though. I mean, if that was as good a matchup, is this as bad a matchup? Not just for the Rams. The Eagles are a tough matchup, period, but football games aren't played on paper, right like depth charts don't decide outcomes.

Is the opposite of what you guys just said true this week though. I mean, if that was as good a matchup, is this as bad a matchup? Not just for the Rams. The Eagles are a tough matchup, period, but football games aren't played on paper, right like depth charts don't decide outcomes.

People do.

People do.

And there's a reason why we're all getting on that flight Saturday to go see this game, because the Rams don't have to win four games in a best of seven series. It'd be better for four quarters.

And there's a reason why we're all getting on that flight Saturday to go see this game, because the Rams don't have to win four games in a best of seven series. It'd be better for four quarters.

You know.

You know.

I think the same applies to what they said going into the Minnesota game. Respect all fear none. Philadelphia is tough, man. I mean, they've got a lot of good players. Saquon Barkley is arguably the best back in the league right now, one or two. Jalen Hurts, I feel, is elite. I think he If you had Matthew Stafford and Jalen Hurts to start a football team, which guy wins the job, it depends on what offense you're using, because they're both great at what they do. So this will be a snootful, But I don't think the Eagles are unbeatable, and I still don't think we've seen the best of the Rams just set.

I think the same applies to what they said going into the Minnesota game. Respect all fear none. Philadelphia is tough, man. I mean, they've got a lot of good players. Saquon Barkley is arguably the best back in the league right now, one or two. Jalen Hurts, I feel, is elite. I think he If you had Matthew Stafford and Jalen Hurts to start a football team, which guy wins the job, it depends on what offense you're using, because they're both great at what they do. So this will be a snootful, But I don't think the Eagles are unbeatable, and I still don't think we've seen the best of the Rams just set.

I think we're getting close.

I think we're getting close.

I think this win versus Minnesota is a step in the right direction. But if there was a best game to be played, you're gonna need it this Sunday to beat the Eagles.

I think this win versus Minnesota is a step in the right direction. But if there was a best game to be played, you're gonna need it this Sunday to beat the Eagles.

I mean, it's it's such a contrast. I think Minnesota was the worst offensive line in the playoff field. This is the best offensive line in the National Football League. Minnesota isn't great running the ball, isn't committed to running the ball. They're both elite defenses. That's a similarity that I but Minnesota is aged opportunistic, super aggressive. Philadelphia is more poised and patient and young oh Ya and they're flying around and they're sticky in coverage.

I mean, it's it's such a contrast. I think Minnesota was the worst offensive line in the playoff field. This is the best offensive line in the National Football League. Minnesota isn't great running the ball, isn't committed to running the ball. They're both elite defenses. That's a similarity that I but Minnesota is aged opportunistic, super aggressive. Philadelphia is more poised and patient and young oh Ya and they're flying around and they're sticky in coverage.

You know when you watch Minnesota's video and what they do and how they attack, and you're talking about Brian Flores and is up the field approach, his aggressive approach. If he had Philadelphia's talent, he wouldn't have to do all that. They can get after you with four and play coverage. That's what makes them special is a talented roster, a roster full of great players. And but the thing I think that's right underneath all that, they are very combustible. I think, like you said, if you get into a game and you make this a four quarter battle, they could get frustrated. Bad things can happen. I think the more connected team will win this if you can get past the talent of it all. But easier said than done. But like I said, I don't think Philadelphia is unbeatable by a long shot. It just you have to play your best game to beat them.

You know when you watch Minnesota's video and what they do and how they attack, and you're talking about Brian Flores and is up the field approach, his aggressive approach. If he had Philadelphia's talent, he wouldn't have to do all that. They can get after you with four and play coverage. That's what makes them special is a talented roster, a roster full of great players. And but the thing I think that's right underneath all that, they are very combustible. I think, like you said, if you get into a game and you make this a four quarter battle, they could get frustrated. Bad things can happen. I think the more connected team will win this if you can get past the talent of it all. But easier said than done. But like I said, I don't think Philadelphia is unbeatable by a long shot. It just you have to play your best game to beat them.

How close are you in the weather.

How close are you in the weather.

I've checked the forecast a few times.

I've checked the forecast a few times.

I'll admit it, because possibility of snow, anything that impacts the game, I think it could.

I'll admit it, because possibility of snow, anything that impacts the game, I think it could.

I mean, we'll see. I mean the Rams have shown they can commit to running the ball when when needed, And I guess should you know, conditions present themselves.

I mean, we'll see. I mean the Rams have shown they can commit to running the ball when when needed, And I guess should you know, conditions present themselves.

But I do have a question.

But I do have a question.

I mean, going back to San fran it was wet, it was cold, Stafford was off New York Jets.

I mean, going back to San fran it was wet, it was cold, Stafford was off New York Jets.

It was cold.

It was cold.

Stafford was a little off early until he figured it out. So is it weather or was it just rest? Because that guy looked different in Arizona and he had the week off. So is it the cold affecting him at thirty six, thirty seven years old or did he just need the rest? But I hope it was just the rest, because this is going to be like it could be a mess of a football game.

Stafford was a little off early until he figured it out. So is it weather or was it just rest? Because that guy looked different in Arizona and he had the week off. So is it the cold affecting him at thirty six, thirty seven years old or did he just need the rest? But I hope it was just the rest, because this is going to be like it could be a mess of a football game.

Weather.

Weather.

It can't control the weather. I don't know if you can control Saquon Barkley. But this is the portion in the show. Or I just literally wanted to turn it over to you and say, coach far Yeah, how how can you correct a three hundred yard from scrimmage day? How can you make sure that house calls from seventy plus yards don't happen?

It can't control the weather. I don't know if you can control Saquon Barkley. But this is the portion in the show. Or I just literally wanted to turn it over to you and say, coach far Yeah, how how can you correct a three hundred yard from scrimmage day? How can you make sure that house calls from seventy plus yards don't happen?

Well, one, you know it's coming. You know he has that ability, so and you have to have all eleven to the football. So I told you it was Omar space and Christian Roseboom. They learned a lesson. I didn't think a running back can get from here all the way over there and then beat me down the field. Well this guy can, so now you know. And I said this before on the radio. There have been games and I was with Mike Jones that we had her butts handed to us physically because we didn't know it was coming. We didn't see it coming. Had we gone into the locker room and came out and played the same game a half hour later, it would be totally different. So this is the second time around, you know what to expect. It's going to be a little bit tougher for Sakoon Barkley to do exactly what he did before. That's not to say he can't chip away and beat you, but it won't be the same breakaway after breakaway. Because you've seen it, you understand it, you'll game plan against it.

Well, one, you know it's coming. You know he has that ability, so and you have to have all eleven to the football. So I told you it was Omar space and Christian Roseboom. They learned a lesson. I didn't think a running back can get from here all the way over there and then beat me down the field. Well this guy can, so now you know. And I said this before on the radio. There have been games and I was with Mike Jones that we had her butts handed to us physically because we didn't know it was coming. We didn't see it coming. Had we gone into the locker room and came out and played the same game a half hour later, it would be totally different. So this is the second time around, you know what to expect. It's going to be a little bit tougher for Sakoon Barkley to do exactly what he did before. That's not to say he can't chip away and beat you, but it won't be the same breakaway after breakaway. Because you've seen it, you understand it, you'll game plan against it.

Rams are a different defense to a little bit in personnel, but they're in temperament and commitment to stopping the run. They've been different since that Philadelphia game.

Rams are a different defense to a little bit in personnel, but they're in temperament and commitment to stopping the run. They've been different since that Philadelphia game.

Yeah, absolutely, I mean we've talked about it. It's like that's that's one of the games where they learned arguably the some of their toughest lessons of the season, just in terms of missing one gap or one assignment and how especially against a backfield like that, that can cost you. They've made some considerable strides, I would say, since then and put themselves in a better position to potentially, you know, you know, stop Jalen Hurts in Saquon Barkley. But yeah, I mean that that threat of you know, hitting those home run plays is always going to be there. And you know whatever, whatever lessons you've learned, especially from you know, maintaining gap integrity and and again not missing assignments.

Yeah, absolutely, I mean we've talked about it. It's like that's that's one of the games where they learned arguably the some of their toughest lessons of the season, just in terms of missing one gap or one assignment and how especially against a backfield like that, that can cost you. They've made some considerable strides, I would say, since then and put themselves in a better position to potentially, you know, you know, stop Jalen Hurts in Saquon Barkley. But yeah, I mean that that threat of you know, hitting those home run plays is always going to be there. And you know whatever, whatever lessons you've learned, especially from you know, maintaining gap integrity and and again not missing assignments.

Applying and offensively too.

Applying and offensively too.

Yeah, you don't want to be down two scores and send your defense out against Barkley in the fourth quarter.

Yeah, you don't want to be down two scores and send your defense out against Barkley in the fourth quarter.

They're going to pound you out. Yeah.

They're going to pound you out. Yeah.

He wears you down. Yeah, he does most of his damage after half halftime. And so I think the question is can you force the Eagles to play you on different terms? Like their winning streak is largely built on playing games the way they want to play. Even last week. I mean, if that fumble recovery or not, I guess goes the other way.

He wears you down. Yeah, he does most of his damage after half halftime. And so I think the question is can you force the Eagles to play you on different terms? Like their winning streak is largely built on playing games the way they want to play. Even last week. I mean, if that fumble recovery or not, I guess goes the other way.

What did you think by the way I thought he flipped it out.

What did you think by the way I thought he flipped it out.

No no, no, no opening kickoff Packers and Eagles. Oh and you were saying, like there's a real world scenario where if that doesn't happen, we could be having a completely different conversation right now. But to everyone's point, for two notoriously slow starting franchises Philadelphia Los Angeles, the score at the end of the first quarter is going to matter this week. Here's what I worry about a bit. The Eagles have been on a roll and if sick One doesn't slide at the end of last week's game, that probably looks like more of a blowout. And maybe there's not as much discontent, but the Eagles faithful are wary, like from what I've read and what I've heard, maybe even like a little disgruntled about how stuck in the mud this passing game is only one throw beyond twenty yards last week, and it was off of that fake push push. So I do worry a little bit about that week to week adjustment, Like are you going to have to at once suck up and sell out against the run and have to deal with Kellen Moore and company saying all right, here's your play action shot. We're making sure that we're getting to it early.