Welcome to Better Offline’s coverage of the 2025 Consumer Electronics Show - a standup radio station in the Venetian with an attached open bar where reporters, experts and various other characters bring you the stories from the floor. 

In Part 2 of our 4th day covering CES, Ed Zitron is joined by writer Ed Ongweso Jr, David Roth of Defector, Karissa Bell of Engadget, reporter Rob Pegoraro and Senior Transportation Reporter at TechCrunch Sean O’Kane to discuss mobility at CES, violent robots, furry robots, electric boats and, well, varying levels of potential fraud. 

Ed Ongweso Jr.: https://bsky.app/profile/bigblackjacobin.bsky.social
The Tech Bubble Newsletter: https://thetechbubble.substack.com/ 
David Roth, Defector: https://bsky.app/profile/davidjroth.bsky.social 
It’s Christmastown Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/its-christmastown/id1407429849 
Defector: Defector.com 
Karissa Bell, Engadget https://bsky.app/profile/karissabe.bsky.social 
https://www.engadget.com/about/editors/karissa-bell/ 
Rob Pegoraro: https://bsky.app/profile/robpegoraro.com 
Sean O’Kane: https://bsky.app/profile/seanokane.bsky.social 
https://techcrunch.com/author/sean-okane/ 

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Welcome to Better Offline&rsquo;s coverage of the 2025 Consumer Electronics Show - a standup radio station in the Venetian with an attached open bar where reporters, experts and various other characters bring you the stories from the floor. In Part 2 of our 4th day covering CES, Ed Zitron is joined by writer Ed Ongweso Jr, David Roth of Defector, Karissa Bell of Engadget, reporter Rob Pegoraro and Senior Transportation Reporter at TechCrunch Sean O&rsquo;Kane to discuss mobility at CES, violent robots, furry robots, electric boats and, well, varying levels of potential fraud. Ed Ongweso Jr.: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/bigblackjacobin.bsky.social">https://bsky.app/profile/bigblackjacobin.bsky.social</a> The Tech Bubble Newsletter: <a href="https://thetechbubble.substack.com/">https://thetechbubble.substack.com/</a>&nbsp; David Roth, Defector: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/davidjroth.bsky.social">https://bsky.app/profile/davidjroth.bsky.social</a>&nbsp; It&rsquo;s Christmastown Podcast: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/its-christmastown/id1407429849">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/its-christmastown/id1407429849</a>&nbsp; Defector: <a href="Defector.com">Defector.com&nbsp;</a> Karissa Bell, Engadget <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/karissabe.bsky.social">https://bsky.app/profile/karissabe.bsky.social</a>&nbsp; <a href="https://www.engadget.com/about/editors/karissa-bell/">https://www.engadget.com/about/editors/karissa-bell/</a>&nbsp; Rob Pegoraro: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/robpegoraro.com">https://bsky.app/profile/robpegoraro.com</a>&nbsp; Sean O&rsquo;Kane: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/seanokane.bsky.social">https://bsky.app/profile/seanokane.bsky.social</a>&nbsp; <a href="https://techcrunch.com/author/sean-okane/">https://techcrunch.com/author/sean-okane/</a>&nbsp;
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Better Offline is a weekly show exploring the tech industry’s influence and manipulation of society - and interrogating the growth-at-all-costs future that tech’s elite wants to build. 

Combining narrative-form storytelling, one-on-one interviews and panel-based discussions, Better Offline cuts through the buzzwords and obfuscation of the tech industry, investigating and evaluating the schemes and scams of everyone from cryptocurrency scumbags to the greediest of the venture capital elite. Tech industry veteran Ed Zitron and a dynamic coterie of guests will help listeners understand the who, how and why of how tech’s most powerful players are changing the world - for better or for worse.

Better Offline is a weekly show exploring the tech industry’s influence and manipulation of society - and interrogating the growth-at-all-costs future that tech’s elite wants to build. 
Combining narrative-form storytelling, one-on-one interviews and panel-based discussions, Better Offline cuts through the buzzwords and obfuscation of the tech industry, investigating and evaluating the schemes and scams of everyone from cryptocurrency scumbags to the greediest of the venture capital elite. Tech industry veteran Ed Zitron and a dynamic coterie of guests will help listeners understand the who, how and why of how tech’s most powerful players are changing the world - for better or for worse.

Better Offline

Better Offline is a weekly show exploring the tech industry’s influence and manipulation of society - and interrogating the growth-at-all-costs future that tech’s elite wants to build.



Combining narrative-form storytelling, one-on-one interviews and panel-based discussions, Better Offline cuts through the buzzwords and obfuscation of the tech industry, investigating and evaluating the schemes and scams of everyone from cryptocurrency scumbags to the greediest of the venture capital elite. Tech industry veteran Ed Zitron and a dynamic coterie of guests will help listeners understand the who, how and why of how tech’s most powerful players are changing the world - for better or for worse.

Better Offline is a weekly show exploring the tech industry’s influence and manipulation of society - and interrogating the growth-at-all-costs future that tech’s elite wants to build.
 
Combining narrative-form storytelling, one-on-one interviews and panel-based discussions, Better Offline cuts through the buzzwords and obfuscation of the tech industry, investigating and evaluating the schemes and scams of everyone from cryptocurrency scumbags to the greediest of the venture capital elite. Tech industry veteran Ed Zitron and a dynamic coterie of guests will help listeners understand the who, how and why of how tech’s most powerful players are changing the world - for better or for worse.

Better Offline CES 2025: Day 4 - Pt. 2

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