In 2021, we began a conversation with artist, filmmaker and artist facilitator that focused on two artists – Luke Abdallah who’s been blind since birth and lives with elective mutism – and Matthew Elliot who lives with cerebral palsy. Our first conversation was about the two artists having just received residencies at Bundanon (the former Arthur Boyd homestead on the banks of the Shoalhaven River, now an artists’ retreat)…  this latest conversation takes place at the other end of that journey when Luke and Matthew’s work is being exhibited at the Woollahra Gallery along with a screening of Zachariah’s film Bundanon: Painting a Promised Land which documents the work of both artists.