Robert and Jamie conclude the thrilling tale of Sam Bankman-Fried and his biographer, Michael Lewis.

Robert and Jamie conclude the thrilling tale of Sam Bankman-Fried and his biographer, Michael Lewis.

There’s a reason the History Channel has produced hundreds of documentaries about Hitler but only a few about Dwight D. Eisenhower. Bad guys (and gals) are eternally fascinating. Behind the Bastards dives in past the Cliffs Notes of the worst humans in history and exposes the bizarre realities of their lives. Listeners will learn about the young adult novels that helped Hitler form his monstrous ideology, the founder of Blackwater’s insane quest to build his own Air Force, the bizarre lives of the sons and daughters of dictators and Saddam Hussein’s side career as a trashy romance novelist.

Everything you don't know about History's greatest monsters

Behind the Bastards

There’s a reason the History Channel has produced hundreds of documentaries about Hitler but only a few about Dwight D. Eisenhower. Bad guys (and gals) are eternally fascinating. Behind the Bastards dives in past the Cliffs Notes of the worst humans in history and exposes the bizarre realities of their lives. Listeners will learn about the young adult novels that helped Hitler form his monstrous ideology, the founder of Blackwater’s insane quest to build his own Air Force, the bizarre lives of the sons and daughters of dictators and Saddam Hussein’s side career as a trashy romance novelist.

Part Two: The Last Sam Bankman-Fried Episodes (secretly about Michael Lewis)

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/2e99819c-83f1-4dae-8ba9-b0d00148d3d0/transcript

Robert tells Noah how Peter Thiel went to war against Gawker and also completely whiffed on profiting from the 2008 financial crash. Bonus: how Palantir enabled a bunch of creepy corporate security types to stalk their girlfriends, each other.

Robert tells Noah how Peter Thiel went to war against Gawker and also completely whiffed on profiting from the 2008 financial crash. Bonus: how Palantir enabled a bunch of creepy corporate security types to stalk their girlfriends, each other.

Part Three: How Peter Thiel Became the Gravedigger of Democracy

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/7beecf7f-91ae-4136-9b70-b21f00195f8f/transcript

We discuss Peter Thiel's rise to PayPal CEO, his betrayal of Elon Musk, and the birth of the technology that became Palantir.

We discuss Peter Thiel's rise to PayPal CEO, his betrayal of Elon Musk, and the birth of the technology that became Palantir.

Part Two: How Peter Thiel Became the Gravedigger of Democracy

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/6e231a1b-1993-4d8d-aa9b-b21a00174bbe/transcript

Robert sits down with Noah Shachtman to discuss the life and times of Peter Thiel, the demon investor of Silicon Valley and would-be assassin of democracy.

(4 Part Series)

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Chafkin, Max. The Contrarian: Peter Thiel and Silicon Valley's Pursuit of Power (p. 11). Penguin Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.

Robert sits down with Noah Shachtman to discuss the life and times of Peter Thiel, the demon investor of Silicon Valley and would-be assassin of democracy.
(4 Part Series)
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<a href="https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/books/story/2021-09-17/contrarian-review" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/books/story/2021-09-17/contrarian-review&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1730245087994000&amp;usg=AOvVaw3miBez_WiPQSk4Q_hMjFlp" data-removefontsize="true" data-originalcomputedfontsize="16">https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/books/story/2021-09-17/contrarian-review</a>
Chafkin, Max. The Contrarian: Peter Thiel and Silicon Valley's Pursuit of Power (p. 11). Penguin Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.

Part One: How Peter Thiel Became the Gravedigger of Democracy

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