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Ah, we're back, and you know we're talking about Versailles, me and my friend ed Edward Zitron. I've never called Edward. It feels wrong. It's mostly what my mother calls me.

Ah, we're back, and you know we're talking about Versailles, me and my friend ed Edward Zitron. I've never called Edward. It feels wrong. It's mostly what my mother calls me.

When I've done something like Edward Edward Benjamin Zitron. That's when I know I'm in real trouble.

When I've done something like Edward Edward Benjamin Zitron. That's when I know I'm in real trouble.

Edward Benjamin Zitron.

Edward Benjamin Zitron.

That's when the that's that's yeah, that's that's when I'm about.

That's when the that's that's yeah, that's that's when I'm about.

To really do that. Yeah, I feel like I need to punish you for something. Just hearing that.

To really do that. Yeah, I feel like I need to punish you for something. Just hearing that.

Yeah, that's exactly it.

Yeah, that's exactly it.

It's the punishment phrase. So ed a better offline. We're talking about Versailles and the weird culture of oligarchy. Well it wasn't. I mean, it's an aristocracy, but whatever. Like, we're talking about this weird subculture that Louis the fourteenth creator.

It's the punishment phrase. So ed a better offline. We're talking about Versailles and the weird culture of oligarchy. Well it wasn't. I mean, it's an aristocracy, but whatever. Like, we're talking about this weird subculture that Louis the fourteenth creator.

During that during that break between recording episodes, neither of you peede right because I'm not okay with that.

During that during that break between recording episodes, neither of you peede right because I'm not okay with that.

I I pissed, behead you, behead you. It's done. Fortress. Honestly though, it'd be pretty cool if I just got to live in a fortress forever. I would not mind a nice fortress stead. But don't pee as long as it's all the time.

I I pissed, behead you, behead you. It's done. Fortress. Honestly though, it'd be pretty cool if I just got to live in a fortress forever. I would not mind a nice fortress stead. But don't pee as long as it's all the time.

I drink so many diet cokes I would be beheaded.

I drink so many diet cokes I would be beheaded.

Yeah, you would not have lasted a minute in verse I me, I'm great at holding my pe. I'd have been the fucking king's best friend. We'd have gotten wasted together. We'd have been gambling. It is funny to me that like all of these royal well every night gambling, constantly losing and making fortunes, like while the country. A big part of like why people get increasingly angry in the period from here up to seventeen eighty nine when the revolution happens, is like every day in these like newspapers that are getting smuggled into France and you know these other different like kind of news delivering methods. We'll talk about that whole news ecosystem in Paris in a little bit. But every day people are reading stories about like who lost how much money? And Versailles. So they're like, oh, the price of bread just tripled, my family's going to starve and die. And the Duke de Orleone gambled away seven hundred thousand livres like just burnt it for nothing. Kind of pissed about that.

Yeah, you would not have lasted a minute in verse I me, I'm great at holding my pe. I'd have been the fucking king's best friend. We'd have gotten wasted together. We'd have been gambling. It is funny to me that like all of these royal well every night gambling, constantly losing and making fortunes, like while the country. A big part of like why people get increasingly angry in the period from here up to seventeen eighty nine when the revolution happens, is like every day in these like newspapers that are getting smuggled into France and you know these other different like kind of news delivering methods. We'll talk about that whole news ecosystem in Paris in a little bit. But every day people are reading stories about like who lost how much money? And Versailles. So they're like, oh, the price of bread just tripled, my family's going to starve and die. And the Duke de Orleone gambled away seven hundred thousand livres like just burnt it for nothing. Kind of pissed about that.

Yeah, well, no, it's the case, may.

Yeah, well, no, it's the case, may.

Be, yeah right, I would dare not be pissed about it in front of the King. You know, the fact that gambling is absolutely central to the culture of this leadership caste, who all live at Versailles with the King. I can't not think about crypto and how central that is to the people who are trying to make themselves the new the American nobility, right, who want to be our hereditary aristocracy that rules things, and how they spend most of their time and money gambling on crypto. Yeah, anyway, I don't know, interesting interesting history, yes, yes, and they even have their own you know, they've got mar A Lago, which Trump clearly wants to be a sort of Versailles.

Be, yeah right, I would dare not be pissed about it in front of the King. You know, the fact that gambling is absolutely central to the culture of this leadership caste, who all live at Versailles with the King. I can't not think about crypto and how central that is to the people who are trying to make themselves the new the American nobility, right, who want to be our hereditary aristocracy that rules things, and how they spend most of their time and money gambling on crypto. Yeah, anyway, I don't know, interesting interesting history, yes, yes, and they even have their own you know, they've got mar A Lago, which Trump clearly wants to be a sort of Versailles.

Yeah, he lacks the atrocity gene, true, like I'm sure he would love to do one, but like he lacks the killer instinct of these perverts.

Yeah, he lacks the atrocity gene, true, like I'm sure he would love to do one, but like he lacks the killer instinct of these perverts.

Well, yeah, he did not have to literally fight a series of wars in over to get where order to get where he is, which again, that's consistently the best thing we have going for us.

Well, yeah, he did not have to literally fight a series of wars in over to get where order to get where he is, which again, that's consistently the best thing we have going for us.

You know.

You know.

It's the same as like, well, at least this generation of fascists didn't all spend four years fighting in close quarters in trenches. You know that said neither did we. So the social constitution of Versailles took a lot from its founder, which meant that the whole place was a huge adultery club all the time. There's a great story in Nancy Mitford's book that might be apocryphal, but it tells of a high ranking noble returning home early from a trip abroad to find his wife in bed with her lover, and he apologized to both of them. He was like, oh my god, I didn't warn you I'd come home early. Of course you're fucking some dude. Oh my god, I am so embarrassed. This is on me. You know, it's not Poland, yeah, it's like Portland completely my bad.

It's the same as like, well, at least this generation of fascists didn't all spend four years fighting in close quarters in trenches. You know that said neither did we. So the social constitution of Versailles took a lot from its founder, which meant that the whole place was a huge adultery club all the time. There's a great story in Nancy Mitford's book that might be apocryphal, but it tells of a high ranking noble returning home early from a trip abroad to find his wife in bed with her lover, and he apologized to both of them. He was like, oh my god, I didn't warn you I'd come home early. Of course you're fucking some dude. Oh my god, I am so embarrassed. This is on me. You know, it's not Poland, yeah, it's like Portland completely my bad.

You should apologize.

You should apologize.

Oh rude. The normalization of this behavior among the ruling class contributed to a growing break with the bourgeoisie in the working class of France, because while these nobles who are living together, they don't really most of them. There are conflicts that emerge, but most of them aren't super judgmental about adultery, right, It is just kind of considered something you do. The working class and most of the bourgeoisie are extremely Catholic and they are not okay with this. And again, as more of this stuff leaks and gets leaked out, right, if you want to, if you are politically opposed to Madame de montespan right or whichever of the King's lovers, you leak out stories of her doing fucked up shit, you know, gambling irresponsibly, being drunk, sleeping around on the king right, or whatever, and that both makes the king look bad and it makes the King more likely to send her away right right.

Oh rude. The normalization of this behavior among the ruling class contributed to a growing break with the bourgeoisie in the working class of France, because while these nobles who are living together, they don't really most of them. There are conflicts that emerge, but most of them aren't super judgmental about adultery, right, It is just kind of considered something you do. The working class and most of the bourgeoisie are extremely Catholic and they are not okay with this. And again, as more of this stuff leaks and gets leaked out, right, if you want to, if you are politically opposed to Madame de montespan right or whichever of the King's lovers, you leak out stories of her doing fucked up shit, you know, gambling irresponsibly, being drunk, sleeping around on the king right, or whatever, and that both makes the king look bad and it makes the King more likely to send her away right right.

And because the peasantry would get morally offended, well, I mean, that's kind of a by product, right.

And because the peasantry would get morally offended, well, I mean, that's kind of a by product, right.

The reason why you, as a noble at Versailles, are leaking out stories about her is you want to hurt her position, right, And the stories will get out into the press, and then the police will find out that peasants are talking about this and bourgeoisiser talking about this. They'll bring that story back to the King and then he'll know that he's been embarrassed. And so your goal is a noble leaking that is to influence that situation. But the byproduct of this is that the peasantry and the like the regular people of France are constantly hearing about how the king is sleeping around and not being a good Catholic, and that makes them increasingly angry and disaffected from the monarchy. This is a process that occurs over like a century, but this, the sheer weight of all these stories, changes completely how regular people think about their rulers, right, in a way that is very negative and that contributes to the growth of revolutionary sentiment. Right, it's a part of it, you know. So this whole process gets really escalated when Madame DeMont Span succeeds in using magic to win the king over as her lover. Now, Madame de Montespand had a husband, and in most cases, when the king fucks your wife, you're cool with it. For one thing. As a noble you are rarely married for love. Right. You got married with this lady because of a money thing, because of a political alliance. So like, you don't really care who she fucks as long as you're able to fuck who you like. Right. This is not the case with Madame de Montespan's wife and the king. Normally his thing is like to the husband, Hey, here have a couple of privileges. You you get all the tax money from this specific and it's something king, yes, oh yes, you get very well rewarded. Right. And it's also there's no shame in being cucked by the king, right, he's the king, you know, like it's kind of a bragging point of like, yeah, my wife is shtup in the king. Now I get all of the taxes paid on you know, fine leather work in Normandy or whatever, you know. But this guy felt differently. And his uncle was the Archbishop of Sins, right, so his uncle is a high ranking member of the Catholic clergy. This guy's pissed that the king is fucking his wife, and so the archbishop his uncle, in order to punish the king, finds a different married woman in his bishopric who's cheating on her husband, and he makes her do public penance. Right, He like puts her in public and punishes her, and he posts public warnings about the sin of adultery. Now, again, there's no free press in France, but numerous French papers and pamphlets are printed in Amsterdam or the Hague and sent across and the population is generally aware of what's going on. As a result, the scandal peters out. Eventually largely because the son king refuses to give a shit about it or stop traveling around with his wife, his pregnant former mistress, and his new mistress all in this shit same carriage. There's a very funny moment where they're all like traveling to the front together one day after they work out their differences and get along, and some of the soldiers they pass are like, I just saw the king and the three queens of France.

The reason why you, as a noble at Versailles, are leaking out stories about her is you want to hurt her position, right, And the stories will get out into the press, and then the police will find out that peasants are talking about this and bourgeoisiser talking about this. They'll bring that story back to the King and then he'll know that he's been embarrassed. And so your goal is a noble leaking that is to influence that situation. But the byproduct of this is that the peasantry and the like the regular people of France are constantly hearing about how the king is sleeping around and not being a good Catholic, and that makes them increasingly angry and disaffected from the monarchy. This is a process that occurs over like a century, but this, the sheer weight of all these stories, changes completely how regular people think about their rulers, right, in a way that is very negative and that contributes to the growth of revolutionary sentiment. Right, it's a part of it, you know. So this whole process gets really escalated when Madame DeMont Span succeeds in using magic to win the king over as her lover. Now, Madame de Montespand had a husband, and in most cases, when the king fucks your wife, you're cool with it. For one thing. As a noble you are rarely married for love. Right. You got married with this lady because of a money thing, because of a political alliance. So like, you don't really care who she fucks as long as you're able to fuck who you like. Right. This is not the case with Madame de Montespan's wife and the king. Normally his thing is like to the husband, Hey, here have a couple of privileges. You you get all the tax money from this specific and it's something king, yes, oh yes, you get very well rewarded. Right. And it's also there's no shame in being cucked by the king, right, he's the king, you know, like it's kind of a bragging point of like, yeah, my wife is shtup in the king. Now I get all of the taxes paid on you know, fine leather work in Normandy or whatever, you know. But this guy felt differently. And his uncle was the Archbishop of Sins, right, so his uncle is a high ranking member of the Catholic clergy. This guy's pissed that the king is fucking his wife, and so the archbishop his uncle, in order to punish the king, finds a different married woman in his bishopric who's cheating on her husband, and he makes her do public penance. Right, He like puts her in public and punishes her, and he posts public warnings about the sin of adultery. Now, again, there's no free press in France, but numerous French papers and pamphlets are printed in Amsterdam or the Hague and sent across and the population is generally aware of what's going on. As a result, the scandal peters out. Eventually largely because the son king refuses to give a shit about it or stop traveling around with his wife, his pregnant former mistress, and his new mistress all in this shit same carriage. There's a very funny moment where they're all like traveling to the front together one day after they work out their differences and get along, and some of the soldiers they pass are like, I just saw the king and the three queens of France.

Damn Jesus Christ.

Damn Jesus Christ.

Yeah, the fact they're alive. Will we're allowed to live? Yeah? I don't know the rest of that thirty one year old life. Yeah, right now. Speaking of which, travel in the king's carriage was one of the great honors the Versailles set competed over whenever he went on a trip. If he picked you to travel with him, that's a big deal, right, You've like won a major win. But it's also miserable. As Mitford writes, these journeys, except for the prestige they gave, were a real torment to his companions and the coldest weather, all the windows had to be kept open, as he could not bear stuffiness. The ladies were expected to be merry eat a great deal. He hated people to refuse food and to have no physical needs that would force them to leave the coach, and they hit, no, they can't do it any just if by any chance they were taken ill, fainted, or felt sick, they could expect no sympathy. On the contrary, Disfavor said it, he's such a freak. Louis the fourteenth had no sympathy for his pregnant mistresses either. He's going to get you pregnant, and he's going to take care of his bastard kids. He pays for them, He pays for them well, they live very well, and he's like the treats the kids reasonably nice. He hates pregnancy, so his mistresses, when he gets them pregnant, are ordered to hide their condition from him and the like. It's understood, if you get pregnant, you need to not tell me. You need to do everything you can to hide it, and you need to have the kid quietly and then smuggle it out of the palace into the hands of some common maid or a poor noble or someone who I will pay them to raise this kid. Right, So does this guy like every nine months or so, just find out he has a you child yes, Oh, okay, you basically Louis the fourteenth Life. Yeah, I'm kids crazy, another kid, Okay, some money, pay some random lady to take care of it. I don't want to hear about it though. Yeah, there's just one weird story. There's this lady who he like. He like, pays her to take care of one of his bastards because he hates her and he wants her away from Versailles. And then the kid dies immediately, and she's so sad about it that he starts to like her, and he's like, oh, you know what, then she got sad when my kid died. Now I think she's cool. He is, He's a weird he's nothing like then nothing would. Yeah. In general, one thing you are struck by reading about Versailles under the Sun King is that everyone lives in constant terror of pissing this one dude off. One of his courtiers who never quite made it to the inner circle later said falseness, servility, admiring glances, combined with a dependent and cringing attitude above all in appearance of being nothing without him, were the only means of pleasing him. Cool dad to hang out with.

Yeah, the fact they're alive. Will we're allowed to live? Yeah? I don't know the rest of that thirty one year old life. Yeah, right now. Speaking of which, travel in the king's carriage was one of the great honors the Versailles set competed over whenever he went on a trip. If he picked you to travel with him, that's a big deal, right, You've like won a major win. But it's also miserable. As Mitford writes, these journeys, except for the prestige they gave, were a real torment to his companions and the coldest weather, all the windows had to be kept open, as he could not bear stuffiness. The ladies were expected to be merry eat a great deal. He hated people to refuse food and to have no physical needs that would force them to leave the coach, and they hit, no, they can't do it any just if by any chance they were taken ill, fainted, or felt sick, they could expect no sympathy. On the contrary, Disfavor said it, he's such a freak. Louis the fourteenth had no sympathy for his pregnant mistresses either. He's going to get you pregnant, and he's going to take care of his bastard kids. He pays for them, He pays for them well, they live very well, and he's like the treats the kids reasonably nice. He hates pregnancy, so his mistresses, when he gets them pregnant, are ordered to hide their condition from him and the like. It's understood, if you get pregnant, you need to not tell me. You need to do everything you can to hide it, and you need to have the kid quietly and then smuggle it out of the palace into the hands of some common maid or a poor noble or someone who I will pay them to raise this kid. Right, So does this guy like every nine months or so, just find out he has a you child yes, Oh, okay, you basically Louis the fourteenth Life. Yeah, I'm kids crazy, another kid, Okay, some money, pay some random lady to take care of it. I don't want to hear about it though. Yeah, there's just one weird story. There's this lady who he like. He like, pays her to take care of one of his bastards because he hates her and he wants her away from Versailles. And then the kid dies immediately, and she's so sad about it that he starts to like her, and he's like, oh, you know what, then she got sad when my kid died. Now I think she's cool. He is, He's a weird he's nothing like then nothing would. Yeah. In general, one thing you are struck by reading about Versailles under the Sun King is that everyone lives in constant terror of pissing this one dude off. One of his courtiers who never quite made it to the inner circle later said falseness, servility, admiring glances, combined with a dependent and cringing attitude above all in appearance of being nothing without him, were the only means of pleasing him. Cool dad to hang out with.

Hey, I'm joining my my economy ruining house.

Hey, I'm joining my my economy ruining house.

It would be miserable. It's built up bones and costs half of France to run.

It would be miserable. It's built up bones and costs half of France to run.

The Twilight Zone episode about this with like a child.

The Twilight Zone episode about this with like a child.

Sounds horrifying. This sounds great for him. Yeah, yeah, now the end. Oh, I don't know that we have a full idea, but a bunch a bunch of bastards and some legit kids, okay, Now, a displeased king could be a terrifying thing. A representative story came when a group of the King's friends got lost hunting one day. They stumbled upon a cabin twenty miles or so from Versailles, and the old man who lived there took them in and fed them right. During a conversation while they're having dinner that night, they found out that he had been a frondeur, that is, a member of the rebellion in Louis the fourteenth childhood, right that we started the episode talking about. So the King's friends returned to Versailles and they're like, hey, man, you'll never believe this. You know, we met this old dude. He was part of the rebellion years ago. He just lives right next to Versailles. Very nice guy. You know, and they thought the King would find it amusing. The King was livid and he had the man trapped down and executed immediately. So real, not a forgiving fellow. What of For another example of like how Mercury old this guy could be one of his closest friends in confidants was a guy named la Zune, and la Zune got the idea in his mind one day that he wanted to marry the King's cousin. Now the same like at the same time as he's like being like, hey, man, you should let me do this, he starts making jokes which annoy the king, and the King gets increasingly pissed off over the course of the night. At like the fact that this guy is joking around and talking about marrying his cousin, the King has his very good friend arrested and locked away in a fortress for ten years.

Sounds horrifying. This sounds great for him. Yeah, yeah, now the end. Oh, I don't know that we have a full idea, but a bunch a bunch of bastards and some legit kids, okay, Now, a displeased king could be a terrifying thing. A representative story came when a group of the King's friends got lost hunting one day. They stumbled upon a cabin twenty miles or so from Versailles, and the old man who lived there took them in and fed them right. During a conversation while they're having dinner that night, they found out that he had been a frondeur, that is, a member of the rebellion in Louis the fourteenth childhood, right that we started the episode talking about. So the King's friends returned to Versailles and they're like, hey, man, you'll never believe this. You know, we met this old dude. He was part of the rebellion years ago. He just lives right next to Versailles. Very nice guy. You know, and they thought the King would find it amusing. The King was livid and he had the man trapped down and executed immediately. So real, not a forgiving fellow. What of For another example of like how Mercury old this guy could be one of his closest friends in confidants was a guy named la Zune, and la Zune got the idea in his mind one day that he wanted to marry the King's cousin. Now the same like at the same time as he's like being like, hey, man, you should let me do this, he starts making jokes which annoy the king, and the King gets increasingly pissed off over the course of the night. At like the fact that this guy is joking around and talking about marrying his cousin, the King has his very good friend arrested and locked away in a fortress for ten years.

So the guy, well, the guys, the guy, the guy, the guy, Okay, cool. Why does anyone joke with Louis?

So the guy, well, the guys, the guy, the guy, the guy, Okay, cool. Why does anyone joke with Louis?

Yeah it is. Is there a reward for being funny? I suppose yes, because a big, big part of why he likes the mistresses he likes is they can make him laugh. If you can make him laugh, you can get close to him, and there's you can get a lot of benefits from that. But obviously comedy is a very two edged sort, you know, kolemedy is both legal illegal again, yes, yeah, it really depends on how the sun King feels in any given moment. So very a dangerous place to take make jokes. This is this is truly insane.

Yeah it is. Is there a reward for being funny? I suppose yes, because a big, big part of why he likes the mistresses he likes is they can make him laugh. If you can make him laugh, you can get close to him, and there's you can get a lot of benefits from that. But obviously comedy is a very two edged sort, you know, kolemedy is both legal illegal again, yes, yeah, it really depends on how the sun King feels in any given moment. So very a dangerous place to take make jokes. This is this is truly insane.

This is just like but it's like, there's a completely there's a set of laws social and financial, and you could just die because you were slightly.

This is just like but it's like, there's a completely there's a set of laws social and financial, and you could just die because you were slightly.

Rude, yes, yes, in a way that you would never have been able to guess, like you'll never find out because your dad Yeah yeah, yeah, your dad are or and usually just locked away. But if you're noble, usually you just get locked away. So by the sixteen seventies, the late sixteen seventies, Louis has created a captive society of increasingly deranged, terrified, out of touch nobles whose entire life revolves around trying to get him to like them. The stakes are life and death. A bad joke can get you locked in a fortress, and so again, people increasingly turn to black magic. And one of the things that's happening, as I said, A lot of this is nonsense, like these black masses and stuff I don't think are doing anything real, but there is a lot of real stuff being sold by these witches.

Rude, yes, yes, in a way that you would never have been able to guess, like you'll never find out because your dad Yeah yeah, yeah, your dad are or and usually just locked away. But if you're noble, usually you just get locked away. So by the sixteen seventies, the late sixteen seventies, Louis has created a captive society of increasingly deranged, terrified, out of touch nobles whose entire life revolves around trying to get him to like them. The stakes are life and death. A bad joke can get you locked in a fortress, and so again, people increasingly turn to black magic. And one of the things that's happening, as I said, A lot of this is nonsense, like these black masses and stuff I don't think are doing anything real, but there is a lot of real stuff being sold by these witches.

Right.

Right.

Witchcraft has always been heavily tied to early medicine, and particularly the use of botanical drugs. This often meant a border of fasciants, right, like if you got pregnant and didn't want to be, if it was bad for you to be pregnant, especially all of the fucking that goes on in you know, between these nobles, it's not always a good idea to get pregnant with the person you're fucking. You can get an abortion from these from these witches, right the witch but they also offer they offer what are called inheritance powders, which is literally poisoned to kill the guy you will inherit his like the money of right, like offer your husband. And over the middle of the sun King's reign, it becomes very common to poison rivals for his affections. In other words, you are trying to kill people if they are closer to the king, and you want to be close to the king. For the most popular poisons are arsenic and antimony. In Versailles, these were often snuck. How would you guess? What would you guess is the most common way to poison people to death in versai Well, poison them death. We're talking about tron spoiling.

Witchcraft has always been heavily tied to early medicine, and particularly the use of botanical drugs. This often meant a border of fasciants, right, like if you got pregnant and didn't want to be, if it was bad for you to be pregnant, especially all of the fucking that goes on in you know, between these nobles, it's not always a good idea to get pregnant with the person you're fucking. You can get an abortion from these from these witches, right the witch but they also offer they offer what are called inheritance powders, which is literally poisoned to kill the guy you will inherit his like the money of right, like offer your husband. And over the middle of the sun King's reign, it becomes very common to poison rivals for his affections. In other words, you are trying to kill people if they are closer to the king, and you want to be close to the king. For the most popular poisons are arsenic and antimony. In Versailles, these were often snuck. How would you guess? What would you guess is the most common way to poison people to death in versai Well, poison them death. We're talking about tron spoiling.

I'm gonna guess. No, no, no, I'm gonna guess that. It is like they sneak it into the food.

I'm gonna guess. No, no, no, I'm gonna guess that. It is like they sneak it into the food.

M Okay, you're gonna guess food and you get a guess for the most common way to poison someone at versa something.

M Okay, you're gonna guess food and you get a guess for the most common way to poison someone at versa something.

To do with clothing, some sort of like some sort of accessory perhaps that can have a poison on it.

To do with clothing, some sort of like some sort of accessory perhaps that can have a poison on it.

That is actually one of them. But that's not the most common method. So I'm gonna give you a partial Sophie, you're wrong. The most common way to poison people at Versailles is to put poison in their enemas. So social life at the palace, there's huge feasts all the time, right, Like you're still be having these big feasts, and the king is obsessed. He hates it when people don't eat. If he is offering you food, you have to eat. You have to eat a lot.

That is actually one of them. But that's not the most common method. So I'm gonna give you a partial Sophie, you're wrong. The most common way to poison people at Versailles is to put poison in their enemas. So social life at the palace, there's huge feasts all the time, right, Like you're still be having these big feasts, and the king is obsessed. He hates it when people don't eat. If he is offering you food, you have to eat. You have to eat a lot.

Don't ship in any.

Don't ship in any.

Presenting less you use the shitting the anima thing.

Presenting less you use the shitting the anima thing.

Yeah, and that's fine then, is now didn't want to get fat? Right, Like there's a degree of stigma around that, especially for like women at the court. And more to the point, well.

Yeah, and that's fine then, is now didn't want to get fat? Right, Like there's a degree of stigma around that, especially for like women at the court. And more to the point, well.

Yeah, body shaving.

Yeah, body shaving.

Do better sunking. The kind of food, the kind of foods people are eating, these very rich foods, a lot of cheese. People don't poop very well after eating feasts. So inimas, everyone is taking enemas regularly because it's the only way to relieve yourself after the king forces you to eat six thousand calories of final and meat. Here was this as well, This is like the sixteen seventy sixteen.

Do better sunking. The kind of food, the kind of foods people are eating, these very rich foods, a lot of cheese. People don't poop very well after eating feasts. So inimas, everyone is taking enemas regularly because it's the only way to relieve yourself after the king forces you to eat six thousand calories of final and meat. Here was this as well, This is like the sixteen seventy sixteen.

How many people died from these fucking things? Like, we must have been a lot of infections.

How many people died from these fucking things? Like, we must have been a lot of infections.

We'll never know because like number one, arsenic looks like a couple of other things, and somebody has a feast and then has a heart attack or gets it. People get sick and die for all sorts of reasons, and we're bad at diagnosing, right. We do know there are a number of proven poisonings, but we don't know how many of the deaths at Versailles because Versaia is also it's very easy to get sick there because you live in a big house with three thousand people.

We'll never know because like number one, arsenic looks like a couple of other things, and somebody has a feast and then has a heart attack or gets it. People get sick and die for all sorts of reasons, and we're bad at diagnosing, right. We do know there are a number of proven poisonings, but we don't know how many of the deaths at Versailles because Versaia is also it's very easy to get sick there because you live in a big house with three thousand people.

Well, like pissing and pooping disease in weird places.

Well, like pissing and pooping disease in weird places.

That's probably that's not much of the problem. It's more just that you know, flu season comes around and everyone is in the same big room together, right, you know, it's just easy to get sick. Again.

That's probably that's not much of the problem. It's more just that you know, flu season comes around and everyone is in the same big room together, right, you know, it's just easy to get sick. Again.

The thought that you had in part one, the smell of this place.

The thought that you had in part one, the smell of this place.

The smell of this place because people are also yeah, I mean they're using they're doing their enemas in their private apartments, in the chamber pots. But enemas are a daily thing for a number of people. And yeah, that's an easy way to kill them. As you just put arsenic in their enema, they'll shoot it out their ass and get sick. Now ed, you got this right, a very common method of poisoning. You would also impregnate someone's clothes with arsenic, right, So you would put it unlike the arms of their clothing or whatever, and that wouldn't do anything unless they like touch their mouth or their eyes. But people do that all the time, right, So the idea is that you put it in the garment, they'll get it on their hands. Eventually they'll touch themselves somewhere that the poison can get in, right, and the symptoms of arsenic are being are kind of similar to syphilis, So it has this benefit of if they don't know they've been poisoned, everyone thinks they've caught syphilis, and there's a huge social stigma to getting syphilis. So again, if you're trying to damage your rival, you don't necessarily have to kill them. If you can make people think they have syphilis, you can do some damage to their reputation. They won't be able to fuck people anymore, you know. Yeah, it's an issue now. Doctors had developed methods for testing poison by this point, and they are awful. The main one was if you think someone was poisoned, right, if some guy gets sick suddenly and he's like, I think I was poisoned, you feed whatever liquid or powder they think that they were poisoned with to a dog, and if the dog survives, it's not poison. If the dog dies, it's poison. Right. Pretty brutal, but like it makes sense now. Because the stakes were high and royalty is at risk, doctors are constantly pushed to innovate and create antidotes, and they don't really know what they're doing very rarely do these work, and in order to try and figure out if they do work. There's enough of science is becoming a thing in this period. Right, we're not quite at the Enlightenment, but people are starting to do science. And one of the ways in which they try to scientifically create antidotes is when a doctor thinks he's figured out an antidote to a poison, they'll find a death row prisoner who volunteers, and they'll poison them and then given the antidote, and if they survive, their sentence is commuted, they get off of the row.

The smell of this place because people are also yeah, I mean they're using they're doing their enemas in their private apartments, in the chamber pots. But enemas are a daily thing for a number of people. And yeah, that's an easy way to kill them. As you just put arsenic in their enema, they'll shoot it out their ass and get sick. Now ed, you got this right, a very common method of poisoning. You would also impregnate someone's clothes with arsenic, right, So you would put it unlike the arms of their clothing or whatever, and that wouldn't do anything unless they like touch their mouth or their eyes. But people do that all the time, right, So the idea is that you put it in the garment, they'll get it on their hands. Eventually they'll touch themselves somewhere that the poison can get in, right, and the symptoms of arsenic are being are kind of similar to syphilis, So it has this benefit of if they don't know they've been poisoned, everyone thinks they've caught syphilis, and there's a huge social stigma to getting syphilis. So again, if you're trying to damage your rival, you don't necessarily have to kill them. If you can make people think they have syphilis, you can do some damage to their reputation. They won't be able to fuck people anymore, you know. Yeah, it's an issue now. Doctors had developed methods for testing poison by this point, and they are awful. The main one was if you think someone was poisoned, right, if some guy gets sick suddenly and he's like, I think I was poisoned, you feed whatever liquid or powder they think that they were poisoned with to a dog, and if the dog survives, it's not poison. If the dog dies, it's poison. Right. Pretty brutal, but like it makes sense now. Because the stakes were high and royalty is at risk, doctors are constantly pushed to innovate and create antidotes, and they don't really know what they're doing very rarely do these work, and in order to try and figure out if they do work. There's enough of science is becoming a thing in this period. Right, we're not quite at the Enlightenment, but people are starting to do science. And one of the ways in which they try to scientifically create antidotes is when a doctor thinks he's figured out an antidote to a poison, they'll find a death row prisoner who volunteers, and they'll poison them and then given the antidote, and if they survive, their sentence is commuted, they get off of the row.

Right, I honestly would believe that they were just send back to prison.

Right, I honestly would believe that they were just send back to prison.

Like now they're they're not there's a reward. People usually don't survive. Right.

Like now they're they're not there's a reward. People usually don't survive. Right.

Was all of this testing created specifically because of the sign?

Was all of this testing created specifically because of the sign?

Yeah? I mean not, that's not the I guess there are people others accelerates are getting poisoned. This is not only a thing in France, right, Elements of this exists elsewhere, but this poisoning economy is created and largely develops because it's the shit like this existed under the Roman Empire and further back. People always provided poisons and stuff, but this specific industry, like version of the industry crops up as a result of Versailles.

Yeah? I mean not, that's not the I guess there are people others accelerates are getting poisoned. This is not only a thing in France, right, Elements of this exists elsewhere, but this poisoning economy is created and largely develops because it's the shit like this existed under the Roman Empire and further back. People always provided poisons and stuff, but this specific industry, like version of the industry crops up as a result of Versailles.

Right, you've got the which economy, You've got the poison economy, and of course the devil economy.

Right, you've got the which economy, You've got the poison economy, and of course the devil economy.

Yeah. Yeah, Basically the extant poisoning and devil economy that had existed in France that was probably similar to the way it works in its neighbors, becomes this specific thing because of Versailles. Right, that's fair to say. I think I don't want to be like no one else poisons people, right, everyone's poisoning people. You know, we poison people today. We've gotten very good at it thanks to the Russians, you know, That's what it was going to be an ad speaking of which, Yeah, it is time for our ads, and we are sponsored entirely by Novachuk. Novachuck. If you want a lot of people dead very quickly in a way that will alert the entire security establishment of whatever country, you poison them in, Novachuck, we're back. And I can't believe you didn't accept the Novachuk ads for better offline, it really seems like a natural move for you.

Yeah. Yeah, Basically the extant poisoning and devil economy that had existed in France that was probably similar to the way it works in its neighbors, becomes this specific thing because of Versailles. Right, that's fair to say. I think I don't want to be like no one else poisons people, right, everyone's poisoning people. You know, we poison people today. We've gotten very good at it thanks to the Russians, you know, That's what it was going to be an ad speaking of which, Yeah, it is time for our ads, and we are sponsored entirely by Novachuk. Novachuck. If you want a lot of people dead very quickly in a way that will alert the entire security establishment of whatever country, you poison them in, Novachuck, we're back. And I can't believe you didn't accept the Novachuk ads for better offline, it really seems like a natural move for you.

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That's in the past. So back to the poisoning economy periodicity, poisoners would be caught and brought to justice. This happened in sixteen seventy six with the Marquis de Brinvillier, who poisoned her father and two brothers but failed to poison her husband. And it's like a weird story. Her lover who was her accomplice in poisoning the rest of her family. I don't fully do stand, but he like decides to feed her husband the antidote because I think maybe of some strange sense of guilt. So she gets caught and sentenced and executed, and her trial is a media sensation. All of these newsletters and whatnot in Paris, Like every cafe in Paris, people are talking about the trial over this poisoner, this rich noble woman who is like poisoning her family, and before one thing they're majorly talking about is before she is beheaded, she says, it's unfair. I'm the only one being punished for this, because everyone at Versailles does this rightful.

That's in the past. So back to the poisoning economy periodicity, poisoners would be caught and brought to justice. This happened in sixteen seventy six with the Marquis de Brinvillier, who poisoned her father and two brothers but failed to poison her husband. And it's like a weird story. Her lover who was her accomplice in poisoning the rest of her family. I don't fully do stand, but he like decides to feed her husband the antidote because I think maybe of some strange sense of guilt. So she gets caught and sentenced and executed, and her trial is a media sensation. All of these newsletters and whatnot in Paris, Like every cafe in Paris, people are talking about the trial over this poisoner, this rich noble woman who is like poisoning her family, and before one thing they're majorly talking about is before she is beheaded, she says, it's unfair. I'm the only one being punished for this, because everyone at Versailles does this rightful.

Sticky stuff conversation.

Sticky stuff conversation.

All exactly, and she's not lying right like, it's extremely common to do all of this. Now, this is an accurate complaint and it sets off kind of a public moral panic over witchcraft and poison. Just about the only person who had been unaware of the trade and spells and poisons was the son King. Again, because all of this is being done in order to get closer to him and curry favor with him, he orders the parish chief of police, Gabrielle de Larini, to investigate. What follows is a three year plunge into the magical underground, where inheritance powders made of arsenic were sold alongside black masses performed by priests. From an article in the BBC History Magazine by Johnny Wilkes, one of the most popular potion peddlers was La Voisin, who named among her clients those looking for advantage at Versai the Duke de Luxembourg bought charms to keep him safe from swords, while a number of women look for any additive to seduce the key. I want some sword pills.

All exactly, and she's not lying right like, it's extremely common to do all of this. Now, this is an accurate complaint and it sets off kind of a public moral panic over witchcraft and poison. Just about the only person who had been unaware of the trade and spells and poisons was the son King. Again, because all of this is being done in order to get closer to him and curry favor with him, he orders the parish chief of police, Gabrielle de Larini, to investigate. What follows is a three year plunge into the magical underground, where inheritance powders made of arsenic were sold alongside black masses performed by priests. From an article in the BBC History Magazine by Johnny Wilkes, one of the most popular potion peddlers was La Voisin, who named among her clients those looking for advantage at Versai the Duke de Luxembourg bought charms to keep him safe from swords, while a number of women look for any additive to seduce the key. I want some sword pills.

And there's no wealth of way to protect from a sword.

And there's no wealth of way to protect from a sword.

No, no, no, only only drugs. And it's funny because at like formal, especially at formal events, but basically all the time, swords are mandatory dress at Versailles, to the extent that if you forget one, they'll give you the loan you a sword at the door. You don't want to use the loana sword. You don't want to use the loaner sword. No, no, no, everyone's going to be at check out. Dickhead over there with the loan of sword and didn't bring that's that fucker's a rental.

No, no, no, only only drugs. And it's funny because at like formal, especially at formal events, but basically all the time, swords are mandatory dress at Versailles, to the extent that if you forget one, they'll give you the loan you a sword at the door. You don't want to use the loana sword. You don't want to use the loaner sword. No, no, no, everyone's going to be at check out. Dickhead over there with the loan of sword and didn't bring that's that fucker's a rental.

That's a real sword. It hasn't even got a sword amula either.

That's a real sword. It hasn't even got a sword amula either.

Yeah, and no sword ambula. What a dick. So, with Dila Rainy convinced of an epidemic, Louis appointed a special tribunal in April of sixteen seventy nine. Its sessions took place in halls lit only by flaming short torches, the Chamber Ardente Burning Chamber. More than four hundred people were accused, dozens exiled, and thirty six put to death, including love with sin. And this is partly because part of why this gets so bad is they they or at least Dela Rainey says, there was a plot to poison the king to death, right right, but like and maybe there was because people don't enjoy living this way. I was gonna say, like, it feels like there would have been more tempios on the case. There's probably was a plot to poison the king. Yeah, seems like a natural thing to want to do in the situation to leave like the frat house were. It's an understandable evolution of I'm poisoning all of my friends to get close to the king. What did we just poison the king? Yeah? We could go home. Yeah we could go home. I could sleep, I can piss. Quote. Fear spread among a court already riddled with suspicion, and the deaths continued, but Louis put an end to things after he heard a name of someone implicated that alarmed him. The Madame de Montespan, his mistress. Fearing the king made tire of her, she is said to have sprinkled love potions into his food potions made from Spanish fly iron filling sperm and minstrel blood. It was even claimed she had a priest perform a sacrilegious mass over her naked body, which involved the sacrifice of an infant. Monta Span was never tried, but the Trifai reveiled something dark and rotting at the heart of Louis Versailles utopia and Jesus that that escalated. That was not subtle. Wow, okay, yeah, I have a priest to a spell. So the king likes to me too, Like I'm putting sperm and minstrel blood in his food.

Yeah, and no sword ambula. What a dick. So, with Dila Rainy convinced of an epidemic, Louis appointed a special tribunal in April of sixteen seventy nine. Its sessions took place in halls lit only by flaming short torches, the Chamber Ardente Burning Chamber. More than four hundred people were accused, dozens exiled, and thirty six put to death, including love with sin. And this is partly because part of why this gets so bad is they they or at least Dela Rainey says, there was a plot to poison the king to death, right right, but like and maybe there was because people don't enjoy living this way. I was gonna say, like, it feels like there would have been more tempios on the case. There's probably was a plot to poison the king. Yeah, seems like a natural thing to want to do in the situation to leave like the frat house were. It's an understandable evolution of I'm poisoning all of my friends to get close to the king. What did we just poison the king? Yeah? We could go home. Yeah we could go home. I could sleep, I can piss. Quote. Fear spread among a court already riddled with suspicion, and the deaths continued, but Louis put an end to things after he heard a name of someone implicated that alarmed him. The Madame de Montespan, his mistress. Fearing the king made tire of her, she is said to have sprinkled love potions into his food potions made from Spanish fly iron filling sperm and minstrel blood. It was even claimed she had a priest perform a sacrilegious mass over her naked body, which involved the sacrifice of an infant. Monta Span was never tried, but the Trifai reveiled something dark and rotting at the heart of Louis Versailles utopia and Jesus that that escalated. That was not subtle. Wow, okay, yeah, I have a priest to a spell. So the king likes to me too, Like I'm putting sperm and minstrel blood in his food.

I got the minstrel, I forgot the com Where do we get to come? You over there in the corner? It now you want to make a dollar?

I got the minstrel, I forgot the com Where do we get to come? You over there in the corner? It now you want to make a dollar?

Oh man, it's so funny. I don't know that an infant was sacrificed. Every Satanic panic they talk about sacrificing babies. I feel like it's pretty uncommon to sacrifice babies. But maybe like these people are, I wouldn't and they could get a baby, right. It's not hard to get a baby counts right wright, of course you do need that baby might make you immune to taxes, unless it's like the eleventh baby in which cash, but most of the babies are dying, so like I can see if like some richly he's like, hey man, you know that kidd of yours isn't looking great. I need a baby as well. Also, do you any com trying to do one? Stop shopping here? Oh man? What a what a great culture. I love magic of the Court and Versailles, the common dead baby trade. This house is like off of the economy, is half of the rich economy. I mean that's how it costs. I don't know if they're spending that much each year because it doesn't make money by this point. But yes, this this house that costs half of the GDP to build.

Oh man, it's so funny. I don't know that an infant was sacrificed. Every Satanic panic they talk about sacrificing babies. I feel like it's pretty uncommon to sacrifice babies. But maybe like these people are, I wouldn't and they could get a baby, right. It's not hard to get a baby counts right wright, of course you do need that baby might make you immune to taxes, unless it's like the eleventh baby in which cash, but most of the babies are dying, so like I can see if like some richly he's like, hey man, you know that kidd of yours isn't looking great. I need a baby as well. Also, do you any com trying to do one? Stop shopping here? Oh man? What a what a great culture. I love magic of the Court and Versailles, the common dead baby trade. This house is like off of the economy, is half of the rich economy. I mean that's how it costs. I don't know if they're spending that much each year because it doesn't make money by this point. But yes, this this house that costs half of the GDP to build.

Yeah, it's ruining the lives of every noble.

Yeah, it's ruining the lives of every noble.

It's destroying because now driving them insane.

It's destroying because now driving them insane.

Again, it's like a gossip industry.

Again, it's like a gossip industry.

He has created like the cultural equivalent of a death star, but it's aimed at his own country, like and.

He has created like the cultural equivalent of a death star, but it's aimed at his own country, like and.

It's very people as well.

It's very people as well.

Now, all of this, this, like this story, people can't stop talking about this, and I mean I can't stop thinking about it. Of course, this wild this and this massively accelerates the news the growth of a news ecosystem in Paris, right, and in the news, this kind of I'm going to lay out how this works. This whole news ecosystem in Paris sprouts. It existed before Louis, some aspects of it. There had been these things called libel's for years, which were like books about different people in government and politics, and you know, including some of the King's mistresses, that were like books attacking them, right, which are usually illegal, but they're sold quite often. Those that existed before Louis fourteenth. Obviously there had been some kinds of papers in other countries that would get into France. But what really accelerates the birth of a massive and honestly very modern, feeling news ecosystem in Paris is Versailles. Because now that all of power is centralized at Versailles, and all of the people in power, including the king, are no longer having much contact at all with regular people, right, they're not governing out of the same city that French people live in. They're increasingly locked in their own world. So if you're a normal French person, the media becomes your way to keep in touch with the government, right, this alien world of Versailles, you know, And so that is a lot of the fuel by which creates something very similar to our current social media ecosystem in Paris. Part of why this is able to work is that literacy is actually very common in Paris, even among the poor, Like a significant amount of people do know how to read, even p who do not come from money. But even if you don't know how to read, there's like an equivalent to TV news, which are called I'm not going to use the French term for it, but they're called oral newsmongers, right, as in someone who like just tells you the news, right. These are like the newscasters of their day. So it's not TV there's, but there is. There's a large chestnut tree in the center of Paris called the Tree of Krackowl. And so in the early mornings, these oral newsmongers will gather up all the newspapers they can, all the gossip, you know, they collected the night before, and they'll go out and they'll like read the best bits out to the crowd, right, and you know, people will throw them some money for that, and the people who stand around another chunk of people will stand around listening to these oral newsmongers. Some of them are just doing that to get the news in the morning. Some of them are taking notes on what these people say, and then these notes sometimes get turned into pamphlets, but usually they'll just bring them to the cafes and the bars later in the day and read them out to everyone there, and as a result, news disseminates in a very modern way. This is almost like having twenty four hour TV news, right, a podcast really yeah, or a podcast right, and that then turns in in some cases it turns into like print news, but it also turns into direct gossip that it's closer to, like if you think of the Tree of Crackout as like TV news, and then these cafes and bars are like Twitter and Facebook, right. So it is in a lot of ways. It's an extremely modern seeming system that develops here.

Now, all of this, this, like this story, people can't stop talking about this, and I mean I can't stop thinking about it. Of course, this wild this and this massively accelerates the news the growth of a news ecosystem in Paris, right, and in the news, this kind of I'm going to lay out how this works. This whole news ecosystem in Paris sprouts. It existed before Louis, some aspects of it. There had been these things called libel's for years, which were like books about different people in government and politics, and you know, including some of the King's mistresses, that were like books attacking them, right, which are usually illegal, but they're sold quite often. Those that existed before Louis fourteenth. Obviously there had been some kinds of papers in other countries that would get into France. But what really accelerates the birth of a massive and honestly very modern, feeling news ecosystem in Paris is Versailles. Because now that all of power is centralized at Versailles, and all of the people in power, including the king, are no longer having much contact at all with regular people, right, they're not governing out of the same city that French people live in. They're increasingly locked in their own world. So if you're a normal French person, the media becomes your way to keep in touch with the government, right, this alien world of Versailles, you know, And so that is a lot of the fuel by which creates something very similar to our current social media ecosystem in Paris. Part of why this is able to work is that literacy is actually very common in Paris, even among the poor, Like a significant amount of people do know how to read, even p who do not come from money. But even if you don't know how to read, there's like an equivalent to TV news, which are called I'm not going to use the French term for it, but they're called oral newsmongers, right, as in someone who like just tells you the news, right. These are like the newscasters of their day. So it's not TV there's, but there is. There's a large chestnut tree in the center of Paris called the Tree of Krackowl. And so in the early mornings, these oral newsmongers will gather up all the newspapers they can, all the gossip, you know, they collected the night before, and they'll go out and they'll like read the best bits out to the crowd, right, and you know, people will throw them some money for that, and the people who stand around another chunk of people will stand around listening to these oral newsmongers. Some of them are just doing that to get the news in the morning. Some of them are taking notes on what these people say, and then these notes sometimes get turned into pamphlets, but usually they'll just bring them to the cafes and the bars later in the day and read them out to everyone there, and as a result, news disseminates in a very modern way. This is almost like having twenty four hour TV news, right, a podcast really yeah, or a podcast right, and that then turns in in some cases it turns into like print news, but it also turns into direct gossip that it's closer to, like if you think of the Tree of Crackout as like TV news, and then these cafes and bars are like Twitter and Facebook, right. So it is in a lot of ways. It's an extremely modern seeming system that develops here.

It's so crazy how many different systems grew out of this necessity, yes, to create this insane alien world where the people that run the government. I was just thinking, like, these are the people running the government. They're not just like fucking around. They're also running.

It's so crazy how many different systems grew out of this necessity, yes, to create this insane alien world where the people that run the government. I was just thinking, like, these are the people running the government. They're not just like fucking around. They're also running.

Fronts they are running for and that's why again, pieces of this aspects of what becomes this news economy existed before versaill versa. I supercharges it, and it also fuels it because most much, not maybe if not most well actually, honestly, usually most of what is being talked about at the Tree of Crackou and in these cafes starts as gossip. People at the courts smuggle out, you know, send out with an eight or whatnot. They'll write it down, they'll send it to somebody that they know, you know, passes stuff on to the people making these papers that are being smuggled in the France, or they'll pass it on to oral newsmongers. Because I want to get this piece of gossip out because it's bad for arrival. I want to get this piece of gossip out because it will hurt this person close to the king, or it'll embarrass the king and stop him from doing something that's bad for me for whatever reason.

Fronts they are running for and that's why again, pieces of this aspects of what becomes this news economy existed before versaill versa. I supercharges it, and it also fuels it because most much, not maybe if not most well actually, honestly, usually most of what is being talked about at the Tree of Crackou and in these cafes starts as gossip. People at the courts smuggle out, you know, send out with an eight or whatnot. They'll write it down, they'll send it to somebody that they know, you know, passes stuff on to the people making these papers that are being smuggled in the France, or they'll pass it on to oral newsmongers. Because I want to get this piece of gossip out because it's bad for arrival. I want to get this piece of gossip out because it will hurt this person close to the king, or it'll embarrass the king and stop him from doing something that's bad for me for whatever reason.

Right, and honestly, no one to this group, because it was fucking insane. If this was going on right now, this would be all I cad about.

Right, and honestly, no one to this group, because it was fucking insane. If this was going on right now, this would be all I cad about.

Yes, yes, this is the only thing you'd want to talk about. It's the crazy house. Why would just be like, what's going on to someone poison the crazy house? Yeah, he pissed, Yeah, so it was said that if you during the you know, when these oral newsmongers would get up and give the news under that chestnut tree, that if you heard a branch crack, that meant that the newsmonger had gotten something wrong. And so cr que crack became slang for fake news. That's the first like fake news term and the last. From here, people in attendance would again take notes on the best bits in the DeCamp for cafes, wine shops and salons. Police would sometimes confiscate these notes when they could, but this was all simply too common to stop. The system is still in its infancy during the reign of the Sun King, but it starts to really grow during the reign of the Sun King, and it will evolve over the next two reigns, and ultimately this is a huge part of why there's a revolution, right the fact that there's these papers, there's these revolutionary presses and tracks, and the fact that all of this gossip about royalty is really bad pr for the nobility and for the king and the queen.

Yes, yes, this is the only thing you'd want to talk about. It's the crazy house. Why would just be like, what's going on to someone poison the crazy house? Yeah, he pissed, Yeah, so it was said that if you during the you know, when these oral newsmongers would get up and give the news under that chestnut tree, that if you heard a branch crack, that meant that the newsmonger had gotten something wrong. And so cr que crack became slang for fake news. That's the first like fake news term and the last. From here, people in attendance would again take notes on the best bits in the DeCamp for cafes, wine shops and salons. Police would sometimes confiscate these notes when they could, but this was all simply too common to stop. The system is still in its infancy during the reign of the Sun King, but it starts to really grow during the reign of the Sun King, and it will evolve over the next two reigns, and ultimately this is a huge part of why there's a revolution, right the fact that there's these papers, there's these revolutionary presses and tracks, and the fact that all of this gossip about royalty is really bad pr for the nobility and for the king and the queen.

They just sound insane.

They just sound insane.

They sounded insane and awful, and it's kind of fucked up. As we'll talk about Eventually, the King and Queen WI ultimately pay the price, you know, which includes the queen being Marie Antoinette and her husband Louis the sixteenth are not nearly as bad as the son king, and in fact, my opinion of them is they were kind of trying to do the best they knew how to. But they were raised number one in this insane place and it deranged culture that has gotten even crazier by the time they come in. There's just no chance of them ever fixing, right.

They sounded insane and awful, and it's kind of fucked up. As we'll talk about Eventually, the King and Queen WI ultimately pay the price, you know, which includes the queen being Marie Antoinette and her husband Louis the sixteenth are not nearly as bad as the son king, and in fact, my opinion of them is they were kind of trying to do the best they knew how to. But they were raised number one in this insane place and it deranged culture that has gotten even crazier by the time they come in. There's just no chance of them ever fixing, right.

Question how long has this been going on? So, like, how long has the SI been around at this point?

Question how long has this been going on? So, like, how long has the SI been around at this point?

I mean by the time we're into the sixteen eighties, like twenty years something like that. Oh my god, fifteen twenty I think. So I don't think it's yeah, we're in this scene growing up going on. Yeah, well yes, yes, because again the Sun King reigns seventy two years, right, so and you know Versailles he starts building when he's like twenty four, right, so he is around with it for a long time. People are born and die with Versailles being the center of the French world during his lifetime, you know, and his time as the king. Now again It's important to note that the main reason why this very modern information ecosystem gets off the ground is there's this desire of what are called the little people to understand what the big people are doing at Versailles. As Robert Darton writes in The Revolutionary Temper, which is a great book about the way the media worked in Paris leading up to the Revolution. For most Parisians, especially the little people, Versaill was an alien world, and politics was the king's business, transacted in his name by ministers, courtiers, and power brokers among legrands. That's the big people. Yet worried about the power plays leaked from Versailles, and it converged with all sorts of other news in the information system of Paris. Legrands at the top of society had access. And these are not just nobles, right, Wealthy merchants are also at Versailles. And in fact, there's a whole cottage industry in books for rich people who are not nobles, who need to understand the stuff that nobles are raised understanding in order to not embarrass themselves at Versailles. That becomes like a cottage industry. And yeah, like a big part of what fuels. This is, you know, these people doling out rumors and lies, often for social cachet. If someone makes a crude joke at the king's expense or flirt with one of his mistresses, they can upset dynamics at the palace in ways that are beneficial to them. Now, the downside of this constant churn is that people outside of Versailles get this feeling that everything going on there is like illegal, immoral sex, gambling and wasting all of the country's money. Right, because which is partially largely accurate.

I mean by the time we're into the sixteen eighties, like twenty years something like that. Oh my god, fifteen twenty I think. So I don't think it's yeah, we're in this scene growing up going on. Yeah, well yes, yes, because again the Sun King reigns seventy two years, right, so and you know Versailles he starts building when he's like twenty four, right, so he is around with it for a long time. People are born and die with Versailles being the center of the French world during his lifetime, you know, and his time as the king. Now again It's important to note that the main reason why this very modern information ecosystem gets off the ground is there's this desire of what are called the little people to understand what the big people are doing at Versailles. As Robert Darton writes in The Revolutionary Temper, which is a great book about the way the media worked in Paris leading up to the Revolution. For most Parisians, especially the little people, Versaill was an alien world, and politics was the king's business, transacted in his name by ministers, courtiers, and power brokers among legrands. That's the big people. Yet worried about the power plays leaked from Versailles, and it converged with all sorts of other news in the information system of Paris. Legrands at the top of society had access. And these are not just nobles, right, Wealthy merchants are also at Versailles. And in fact, there's a whole cottage industry in books for rich people who are not nobles, who need to understand the stuff that nobles are raised understanding in order to not embarrass themselves at Versailles. That becomes like a cottage industry. And yeah, like a big part of what fuels. This is, you know, these people doling out rumors and lies, often for social cachet. If someone makes a crude joke at the king's expense or flirt with one of his mistresses, they can upset dynamics at the palace in ways that are beneficial to them. Now, the downside of this constant churn is that people outside of Versailles get this feeling that everything going on there is like illegal, immoral sex, gambling and wasting all of the country's money. Right, because which is partially largely accurate.

Right, Yeah, it doesn't sound like they were unreasonable in believing that.

Right, Yeah, it doesn't sound like they were unreasonable in believing that.

What's kind of fucked up is that Marie Antoinette and Louis the sixteenth are like, compared to Louis the fourteenth, fairly moral people. They do not engage in at least nearly the same level of adultery. They are less wasteful than the kings before them. But because the royalty have this reputation by their time, they get that reputation too, right because everyone for a hundred years, all that everyone's been writing about how fucked up Versailla is. They're not going to stop now just because these people are like forty percent less shitty, right, Which is not to say that Antoinette and Louis the sixteenth weren't shitty or wasteful, They just weren't as bad as their predecessors. Yeah right. So as he aged, the Sun King did grow less promiscuous and more focused on maintaining control. As Johnny Wilkes writes, Louis turned his life movements and even abolutions, which is like, you know his toilet has cleaning himself into a daily performance governed by a seemingly endless list of detailed rituals and strict rules of etiquette, all in order to keep the nobles busy. All revolved around the Sun King. Starting when he first awoke, A select group be granted and access to the King's bedchamber, although they were not to cross the railing to get near the bed during during the ceremonial rising, and only the most senior in the room had the honor of helping Louis into his shirt. Did the same thing at cees, Yeah, same thing. Yeah, that's exactly how we handle ce Now. The fact that life there was a constant series of balls and parties necessitated constant grant state expenses for fireworks which sometimes kill people, and food in the law. But it also kept the courtiers there in constant debt. Many had to borrow from the crown to afford the accouterment of life at Versailles. Yeah, the king.

What's kind of fucked up is that Marie Antoinette and Louis the sixteenth are like, compared to Louis the fourteenth, fairly moral people. They do not engage in at least nearly the same level of adultery. They are less wasteful than the kings before them. But because the royalty have this reputation by their time, they get that reputation too, right because everyone for a hundred years, all that everyone's been writing about how fucked up Versailla is. They're not going to stop now just because these people are like forty percent less shitty, right, Which is not to say that Antoinette and Louis the sixteenth weren't shitty or wasteful, They just weren't as bad as their predecessors. Yeah right. So as he aged, the Sun King did grow less promiscuous and more focused on maintaining control. As Johnny Wilkes writes, Louis turned his life movements and even abolutions, which is like, you know his toilet has cleaning himself into a daily performance governed by a seemingly endless list of detailed rituals and strict rules of etiquette, all in order to keep the nobles busy. All revolved around the Sun King. Starting when he first awoke, A select group be granted and access to the King's bedchamber, although they were not to cross the railing to get near the bed during during the ceremonial rising, and only the most senior in the room had the honor of helping Louis into his shirt. Did the same thing at cees, Yeah, same thing. Yeah, that's exactly how we handle ce Now. The fact that life there was a constant series of balls and parties necessitated constant grant state expenses for fireworks which sometimes kill people, and food in the law. But it also kept the courtiers there in constant debt. Many had to borrow from the crown to afford the accouterment of life at Versailles. Yeah, the king.

They had to get from the king to go to the king's party.

They had to get from the king to go to the king's party.

Yes, yes, and this is again part of how he maintains control when the sun came, and part of why it's so expensive is like what's acceptable fashion changes on a whim. So when the king starts to go, bald wigs become fashionable, right, and suddenly everyone should have a wig because the king does. And when the king has asked surgery for an anal fistula, people start wearing like bandages around their crotches like HiT's yeah, mates, yeah, it's also crazy fucked up man.

Yes, yes, and this is again part of how he maintains control when the sun came, and part of why it's so expensive is like what's acceptable fashion changes on a whim. So when the king starts to go, bald wigs become fashionable, right, and suddenly everyone should have a wig because the king does. And when the king has asked surgery for an anal fistula, people start wearing like bandages around their crotches like HiT's yeah, mates, yeah, it's also crazy fucked up man.

It's like when we saw those guys wearing the ear bandage at the r this year.

It's like when we saw those guys wearing the ear bandage at the r this year.

It is exactly like that.

It is exactly like that.

So rised.

So rised.

This is like coo, just like that. Yes, this is this is so insane.

This is like coo, just like that. Yes, this is this is so insane.

Probably even if even if this was just people partying, it would be strange. But the fact that this is the like the economy.

Probably even if even if this was just people partying, it would be strange. But the fact that this is the like the economy.

By the by this point the sixteen eighties a decent number of the people here have been like raised in this. You know, they don't know another world exists.

By the by this point the sixteen eighties a decent number of the people here have been like raised in this. You know, they don't know another world exists.

Jesus Christ.

Jesus Christ.

In sixteen eighty three, the Queen died and Louis married his current mistress, Madame de Mentinon. He was less of a rake by this point, in part for the sake of his immortal soul. A king who was known as an adulterer couldn't take communion while he lived in sin. This was a power that the Church had, and even the king really couldn't force them to do this once he was no longer in the prime of health. Louis worried about this more and more, because if you die not taking communion, you go to hell, even a king. Right, So that's the understanding that, like if the king is committing adultery and doesn't stop in time to get forgiven and you know, given his communion and last rites and whatnot, then he goes to hell. Even the king will go to hell. And as he'd gets sicker and older, Louis worries about this more. Now, As I said, the King Sun King's reign is impossibly long by the standard, like thirty years is a long reign for a modern dictator with access to modern medicine. If you make it to thirty years as a dictator, you were doing very well, right. The Son King reigns for seventy two years. He is the longest recorded reigning monarch in history human history. Now there's some argument about this with people for whom our documentation is less good because date keeping was just in a very different state. But they just I mean, I can't. It's very hard for someone to be king for longer than seventy two years, you know.