In Episode 64, Robert is joined by Michael Swaim and Abe Epperson to discuss the end of L. Ron Hubbard's life. 

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In Episode 64, Robert is joined by Michael Swaim and Abe Epperson to discuss the end of L. Ron Hubbard's life.  Learn more about your ad-choices at <a href="https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com">https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com</a>

There’s a reason the History Channel has produced hundreds of documentaries about Hitler but only a few about Dwight D. Eisenhower. Bad guys (and gals) are eternally fascinating. Behind the Bastards dives in past the Cliffs Notes of the worst humans in history and exposes the bizarre realities of their lives. Listeners will learn about the young adult novels that helped Hitler form his monstrous ideology, the founder of Blackwater’s insane quest to build his own Air Force, the bizarre lives of the sons and daughters of dictators and Saddam Hussein’s side career as a trashy romance novelist.

Everything you don't know about History's greatest monsters

Behind the Bastards

There’s a reason the History Channel has produced hundreds of documentaries about Hitler but only a few about Dwight D. Eisenhower. Bad guys (and gals) are eternally fascinating. Behind the Bastards dives in past the Cliffs Notes of the worst humans in history and exposes the bizarre realities of their lives. Listeners will learn about the young adult novels that helped Hitler form his monstrous ideology, the founder of Blackwater’s insane quest to build his own Air Force, the bizarre lives of the sons and daughters of dictators and Saddam Hussein’s side career as a trashy romance novelist.

Part One: The Last Days of L. Ron Hubbard

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/579223f0-986c-47fa-9852-ae280182dad4/transcript

Greazy Wil continues the story of Phil Spector, and how his relationship with the Beatles and his relationship with his wife came into, uh, conflict.

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Greazy Wil continues the story of Phil Spector, and how his relationship with the Beatles and his relationship with his wife came into, uh, conflict.
Cool Zone Media is nominated for 3 Webby Awards!&nbsp; Please submit your votes by April 16th :)
Behind the Bastards -&nbsp;<a href="https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2026/podcasts/features/experimental-innovation">https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2026/podcasts/features/experimental-innovation</a>&nbsp;
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Migrating to America - <a href="https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2026/podcasts/limited-series-specials/documentary">https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2026/podcasts/limited-series-specials/documentary</a> &nbsp;&nbsp;

 Part Three: The Phil Spector Episodes

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/0a38267d-a2a8-4787-8a23-b4250021596b/transcript

Greazy Wil continues the story of Phil Spector, now with The Beatles!

Cool Zone Media is nominated for 3 Webby Awards🎉🎉🎉 

Submit your votes by April 16th 

Behind the Bastards - https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2026/podcasts/features/experimental-innovation 

It Could Happen Here - https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2026/podcasts/limited-series-specials/news-politics

Migrating to America - https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2026/podcasts/limited-series-specials/documentary 

Greazy Wil continues the story of Phil Spector, now with The Beatles!
Cool Zone Media is nominated for 3 Webby Awards🎉🎉🎉&nbsp;
Submit your votes by April 16th&nbsp;
Behind the Bastards - <a href="https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2026/podcasts/features/experimental-innovation">https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2026/podcasts/features/experimental-innovation</a>&nbsp;
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 Part Two: The Phil Spector Episodes

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/318b4ef0-b988-4641-9877-b41f01433f2e/transcript

Robert sits down with his old pal and Grammy-award audio engineer Greazy Will to discuss one of the music industry's greatest bastards: Phil Spector.

(4 Part Series)


Cool Zone Media is nominated for 3 Webby Awards🎉🎉🎉 

Submit your votes by April 16th 

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Robert sits down with his old pal and Grammy-award audio engineer Greazy Will to discuss one of the music industry's greatest bastards: Phil Spector.
(4 Part Series)
 Cool Zone Media is nominated for 3 Webby Awards🎉🎉🎉&nbsp;
Submit your votes by April 16th&nbsp;
Behind the Bastards - <a href="https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2026/podcasts/features/experimental-innovation">https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2026/podcasts/features/experimental-innovation</a>&nbsp;
It Could Happen Here - <a href="https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2026/podcasts/limited-series-specials/news-politics">https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2026/podcasts/limited-series-specials/news-politics</a>
Migrating to America - <a href="https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2026/podcasts/limited-series-specials/documentary">https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2026/podcasts/limited-series-specials/documentary</a>&nbsp;

Part One: The Phil Spector Episodes

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/d0545f1f-4aac-4bc9-90f1-b41d015ad31c/transcript

Part One: The Last Days of L. Ron Hubbard

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