Robert walks Langston Kerman through the story of Dr. George Church, a very real scientist who co founded the company making bullshit claims of "de extincting" dire wolves.
(2 Part Series)
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Part Two: Martin Niemöller, the author of 'First They Came', was a murderous fascist
1:05:24

Part One: Martin Niemöller, the author of 'First They Came', was a murderous fascist
59:41

Part Two: Radovan Karadžić: The Genocidal Dictator Who Became a New-Age Guru
1:17:41