Neither California Governor Gavin Newsom nor Florida Governor Ron DeSantis have shied away from feeding the headlines with thoughts on each other’s respective states. And now they’re set to debate this Thursday, November 30 on Fox, moderated by Fox News host Sean Hannity. 

But, Gov. Newsom isn’t running for president or a nomination for 2024 like Gov. DeSantis is, so what’s the point of the debate?

To get a sense of what we expect to see and hear during the debate, KCBS Radio’s Mallory Somera sat down with Doug Sovern, KCBS Radio political reporter and host of “The State of California.”