Michael 'Maka' Kirkham is leaving Australia for the very first time and coming tio Meatstock Hamilton, and he's excited! And we'e excited to see his leathergoods including some of the finest knife rolls going coming this way too. 

Join us as we catch up on all things leather and BBQ. 

Plus Noel's top tips for charred lettuce (it's a thing!) and our round up of the NZ scene. 

Get it in your ears!