Running the Tape Back on Tell All!

Published Mar 19, 2024, 7:01 AM

Joe and Serena recap last night’s wildly eventful “Women Tell All!” They kick it off with their thoughts on the explosive start to this episode: Was Madina just a pawn all along?
Then, we dive into all the hot seats, from Jenn’s unexpected emotional moment to Lexi’s reflection on her departure and the Maria-Sydney confrontation we’ve all been waiting for. Finally, Joe and Serena cover everything Rachel said. From the online hate she’s received to her emotional goodbye in Tulum, we get into it all. 
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Hey, everyone, welcome back to Battery Happy Hour. I'm Joe and I'm Serena, and today we are going to be recapping The Woman Tell All, which very fun episode. I'm excited about it. We have a lot of back and forth at the beginning, and then the end is very much the Rachel Joey show. Their relationship was very serious. She was the third woman to go home, so that relationship is always a little more. There's more depth to that relationship, I feel like. And then we are going to later in the week, we're going to have we interview a bunch of the women at the tell All because we were watching it live, which was so much fun. And then we are going to have an interview with Rachel. So I'm looking forward to that and talking to her and seeing just seeing what else we can learn about her. And I'm sure she has a much bigger story.

Yeah, we saw some of her conversation with Joey at the telll All, but just getting more in depth into her time on the show, as well as the breakup and what it was like seeing Joey again. So if you want to hear from some of the ladies like Maria and Jen and Joey himself that first interviews for you, and then be sure to tune into the racial one as well.

Right, all right, so let's get into it, shall we. Let's do it all right? So we are at the Woman to All Jesse is on the stage. Well, first, first we see Joey and Jesse going to like sorority houses and they're talking to the fans.

Yeah, they do like a little crash the watch parties tour, which honestly.

You want to do is what you told me while we were watching well.

The first Like, sometimes when I see those, I'm like, oh, that seems like really stressful or overwhelming, which I'm sure it is, but like it's just also so fun, you know what I mean. Like they're going to these big house parties. Everyone there is so excited, they're fans of the show. They're drinking, they're having a good time, they're so happy to see Joey.

Like it just looks like good vibes, good energy. Yeah, riding around a party bus.

Yeah, especially when you're like you're so used to micing up and the cameras in front of you and you're having like serious conversaious conversations and you and your you're on camera, so this is like we're gonna get miked up, but we're literally going to party and it doesn't really matter what happens, like just go have fun.

Yeah, like he's gonna walk into these rooms. Everyone's gonna scream with excitement.

Yeah.

It's just a little bit more lighthearted and relaxing and just probably feels really exciting and nice to engage with the people that have been supporting him all season.

Yeah. Well maybe maybe next year for the Batcher they or maybe for the Bachelorette this year they do it with a lums and we could go because they did that one year. Oh really, they did that one year. I remember they asked me to do it and I was on tour with uh Dancing, but they add but a bunch of like a lum went to they did that and.

Was it Colton season?

It was for Colton season.

Okay, yeah, okay, well that's Oh they like went and posted up at different watch partys.

That's so fun. Yeah, they should do that.

It's kind of nice too because he just like pops in and out, you know what I mean, Like there's no pressure to like be there all night. He's like, I'm here, let's have a drink, let's chat on to the next you know.

Yeah, okay. So so right away they talk about the date card and Leah kind of gets well, the other women don't like Leah, so it it already seems like there's which was you did see this on the show, which was kind of like Jess, Sidney, Leah. But it did seem like they had more women on their side when they were on the show. Yeah, but now at the Women Tell All, it's really like all the women against those three.

Yeah.

On the show, it seemed like it was the three of them, Jess, Leah, Sidney again, Maria. Yeah, but the dynamic we're seeing right now is like a lot of the women plus Maria against Leah. Yeah, which was interesting, And a lot of the comments that were being made, they were, like Maria basically said to Leya, like you threw that card in the fire, like you did it for us and out of the kindness of your heart for us, because you didn't want us to feel like anxiety about our day getting stolen and you didn't want to like step on any of our toes. But like it wasn't for us, it was for you, and all the girls were basically accusing her of it being a performance and it not being real. And I feel like the term like Medina was like, you call yourself a girl's girl, but you're not basically is what she was insinuating.

Yeah, but all like also to back up Leyah with this, you know, not like a lot of the girls that are like calling her out for like you claim to be a girl's girl, are also not girls girls.

The term girls girl has just gotten like so twisted. I feel like, and I feel like everyone as a different definition of what it means to be a girl's girl. But it does sound like it was something that Leah was calling herself.

That's true.

It is. So it's like when you put that on yourself and the other girls feel like, not only are you like not living up to it, you have like some twisted intentions like that's gonna get thrown back in your face.

Well when she did it, when she did it, immediately, I was like, that is so like the way she presented it. I was like, it's so dumb because you're.

Lying anyway she presented what.

The way the way she went about burning the card, okay, because it was like I'm a Martyr. I'm doing this for the sake of the house. Yeah, but in reality, like everyone watching it new like this, that is the only play because if you if you take the card and you use it, you're stealing a date from somebody who the bachelor wants to go on a date with, and you're stepping in and he may not want to go out with you. So that's just going to be bad over all.

Yeah, and I agree with you on that. But I was actually shocked when Jesse asked the women and like who would have kept the card, and like, so many of them raised their hand. But also what was interesting is everyone that raised their hand with someone that went home early, like Lexi, Maria jen none of them are raising their hands, you know what I mean. Yeah, but I agree, I think throwing the card in the fire is the only thing. But Medina actually said to Leah like, I feel like you owe me an apology, and Medina kind of gets into her journey on the show a little bit more later. But you know, we did see that controversy with Leah and her where Leah basically pulls her aside and says, like you're being a bad friend to Sydney.

So I was glad that they kind of went.

Head to head a little bit over that, because it felt a little unfinished on the show. It didn't actually feel finished after the woman tell all either, but I'm just glad it was addressed.

Yeah. I feel like Leah, like who she what she was doing in her actions on the show may not necessarily be who she is. And I don't think she's a good at confrontation or is a very confrontational person.

And you think she got kind of like caught up in the environment and like what she felt like she should be doing in this environment versus like who she actually is and how.

She yeah, And I think she yeah, And I think like it's kind of proved like she kind of they tore her apart basically she didn't really and like all she.

Said was I honestly was shocked.

I was like, wow, you're kind of a controversial person, apparently in this house exactly.

She's like, I don't want to get gas lit, which I don't believe she even used that correctly, but.

Well, I think she used it because like she was saying that Maria her and Sydney weroclaimer. Maria told her to shut the fuck up, and Lauren was saying, no, that was me that said that, which was honestly hilarious and much and it makes.

Sense that Lauren would say shut the fuck up.

Yeah, it definitely sounds like something she would say. And I think Lea's point to being gaslet was like, I know what happened, and you're basically telling me it didn't happen, which and you're trying to make me feel like I'm either lying or making it up or being crazy. But I think she really believes. I don't know what's true or not true. It doesn't even really matter at this point. But I think Maria believes, to her core I did not tell Lea to shut the fuck up, and I think Laya believes to her core that she did say that to her. Yeah, Like, I don't think either of them are necessarily blatantly lying about something. I think they both believe their truth on Yeah, I agree, I just think and I think Lauren believes she said it.

You know, like, well, here's the thing. Shut the fuck up could have been said multiple fucking times.

Yeah, by multiple people.

I here's here, Like it's obviously it's easy, you know, it's easy to be a Monday Morning Quarterback. But what what it's easier, you know, it's easier to say after after we've watched it. But the truth is Sydney and Leah and Jess should have or not Jess really, but Sidney and Leah should should have just not involved themselves at all with Medina. And if they had Medina and if they had a problem with Maria, then you have that argument. But because how they went about it, which was like claiming they were defending Medina and being involved with Medina who didn't really have beef with Maria, just made everything a clusterfuck and there was just no need for it. So like for future people going on the show, if you don't like someone, then just start your own beef with them, don't jump onto somebody else's because when that person you know dies that fuse out, you're fucked.

Yeah, I agree.

I think that Medina was kind of the gateway for Sidney and Leah like into the dramas confrontation with Maria. Like Medina kind of gets into this in the interview that we had with her if you listen to it later this week, but she kind of explains that she felt like she was the pawn, like they were using what Maria had said about her and her age as an excuse to pick a.

Fight with her, which does seem true.

Which seems true.

Yeah, and it's like, if you guys have your own problems with Maria, you know, have your problems with Maria, that's fine, but like, don't use something with involving me to get to her. Which we can actually get into Midna now, because that's kind of the next topic. She opens up about kind of the age comment, and she just says she felt really like stuck in the middle between Sydney and Maria, which is exactly what was happening. Yeah, even in this tell all, like she's sitting right in the middle of them.

Yeah, that was really her storyline, Like that was it. I don't know if she would have had a deeper connection with Joey if that never happened, We'll never know, but yeah, that was that was what her whole story line was about on the show.

Yeah.

I feel like we saw her kind of saying something, oh my god, I know, right, but I feel like she spoke up more on the tell all And also like when we spoke to her in the interview, then we saw the whole season. She kind of just felt like, yeah, she was like not really involved, but she was involved, and she made the age comment and then her and Maria weren't good and they were good, Like I was glad to hear her kind of like speak up and defend herself at the tell all, and then she kind of was like, screw you, guys, I got stuck in the middle of this.

Take a step back.

And then we see Sidney basically says like I had the truest intent with confronting Maria, and it was just to try to be a good friend to Medina and that was really all I was trying to do. And Maria says that Sidney or Sydney says like they have different forms of communication and that's their biggest issue, Like her and Maria just communicate very differently, which I do feel like is true. I do feel like they are different in terms of who they are as people and the way they communicate. And Maria says, we do I speak the truth and you lie?

Yeah, yeah, I just I don't know if Sidney was like I think I think she at the time thought she was sticking up for a friend, which was Medina, but it was like, like, bad move, Like you just met her, you don't know her. You guys probably aren't really that close.

Like I also think, like when it comes down to it, like, yes, I think maybe she thought she was sticking up for a friend in that moment, But I also don't think she liked Maria, and I don't think Maria really liked Sydney after everything started, and I think there was a personal element.

To it for sure. And then we see Jess and Maria go at it and Maria basically shuts Jess down pretty quickly, yeah.

Like multiple times.

But it's kind of ironic because Jess was really just trying to get her point across and explain her side of things, and she was started off by saying I always felt like bulldozed by Maria and just interrupted by her, and Maria interrupted her like four times in the course of like just trying to speak. I was like, this is very ironic, and we even called it like, I know I interrupted you, but.

Yeah, I just kept trying to basically say that Maria, what what did she What was she claiming Maria said to her.

She was claiming that she said to zip it and.

To shut up and Maria's like, no, stop saying that I didn't say that.

Yes, And Jess is basically saying, I'm not even trying to like fight you or come for you by saying you said these things like we're good. I'm just providing examples in contexts.

Yeah, Maria said, all that context you're providing is.

False, Yeah, which is kind of like the exact same argument that's happening with Sydney and with LEAs Like we're kind of just at a standstill.

It's just like he said, she said, and it's just kind of like, well, I don't know, like I if if you're lying, then then I you know, Maria's right. If you're not lying, then Maria's wrong. But we don't know who's telling the truth and who is it.

Yeah.

So yeah, and then we do see like Lexi kind of step in and she just says like, I feel like you three share an opinion and you're kind of going against anyone that has a different opinion than you.

Yeah, which is interesting because Lexi does seem to be pretty level had it. We've had her on the podcast now we're going to have her on twice. She does seem like she's she's pretty straightforward.

Yeah, and pretty unbiased in the situation. I don't think she's like super close with I think she's closer with Maria, but not super close with any of them.

But I don't know.

I know, it's like literally so impossible at these reunions. But even if I don't agree with what someone is saying, I want to hear them out, Like I want to hear their story, do you know what I mean? Like I want to sit and hear Maria talk, and I want to hear Jess talking. I want to hear Sidney, and I want to hear Lea, Like I want to hear what these people have to say because they're giving context and more information, even if that's like, you know, dripping with their own personal bias. And then you have the people in the top row like constantly jumping in, which like it's not that I don't want to hear what they have to say, but I'm just like, I feel like we never really got to the end of the Jess and Maria conversation. It was basically just Jess, you're this is bullshit and you're lying.

Yeah. Well, I also like Jess could also have presented it like and she may not. Like it's like you told me to shut up, you told me to zip it, which essentially are the same fucking thing.

Yeah, but like the same thing.

It's like she could have been like, you know, the night of the cocktail party, when you were wearing this dress, I was wearing this dress, we were doing this. I looked at you and said, hey, Maria, and you looked at me and said, shut the fuck up. And that was rude. Like, provide more. If you're going to provide contact and you want us to believe you, you need to provide more of what happened. And she was just kind of throwing it out there.

Yeah, but I mean it's hard in those settings.

Yeah, but well you're at a woman tell all, like you got to that's what you have to go prepared.

Yeah, Like, if you're gonna go pared like she really did.

If you're gonna go at other other people on the show in a combative way, you have to. You have to be prepared for war. It's reality TV.

Yeah, Like I'm not a confrontational person.

I honestly don't think I would ever because I don't really heeded about a lot of stuff. But like, there's no way I'm stepping up to the plate against Maria. You kidding me, I'm gonna be like yeah, girl, whatever, like I'm gonna go get another drink.

Well, we had our mental I remember, like I was just like, yeah, I'm not like producers like how you feeling. I'm like, I feel fine. I have nothing to say, and I'm not really gonna contribute because I was not on the show. Like that's it, Like, I'm not I'm not getting involved in the Colton Jordan drama of it because I had not I wasn't even fucking there. Yeah, and I think that's that happens a lot. We see a lot, like a lot of the women that were like they it's just kind of like, I don't know, just whatever. But it's entertaining.

So it's always entertaining. Honestly, the beginning of this tella was really entertaining.

So that we go to, uh, we have Lexia gets the first hot seat. Yes, pretty yeah, it was. I thought it was. It was nice. We really like her.

Yeah, it was pretty much just like a recount of why she made her decision. She felt really touched by a Bachelor Nation's response to her story and the messages that she got were just really supportive, and then just that Joey has set the bar high for the next guy to come into her life.

It was nice, it was good.

Yep. And then Jen gets a hot seat, who had a pretty close relationship with Joey.

Yeah, she was quite emotional. Honestly, it is so hard sitting in the hot seat. You're so anxious, or at least I was, and sitting there and watching like a four minute montage of the best and worst moments of your time on the show in terms of your relationship with the lead. So like, I don't blame her for being emotional, Like, it's very overwhelming.

I got emotional when I was in the hot seat.

You got emotional.

I got a hot seat.

From your five second clip of you on the show.

I've never done this show and not have gotten a hot seat. I've always had.

That's crazy.

Joe's so cool.

I guess me too. We didn't have a reunion for our parents.

We would hot seat.

Yeah, we got engaged.

And then Jen just kind of talks about her relationship with her mom and the growth that they've experienced and reconnecting with her family and talking with her brother about her dad and she's still looking for love.

And then we have so then Maria gets a hot seat.

Jesse calls her a lightning rod, like you couldn't get away from the drama just followed you everywhere.

And then Maria and Sidney talk while Maria is in the hot seat.

Yeah, she basically just says like I don't understand the problem that you had with me to Sidney, like I don't know what your problem is, which is kind of fair.

I don't think anyone really understands what her.

And and I like the way Sidney handled it, and I thought the conversation went very went very well, and they were both nice to each other. And then Maria brought up about a lot of the hate that Sidney was getting and I thought that was really nice.

Too, because I, yeah, I thought Sidney did a really good job of handling the interaction with Maria and was just like, you know, you did say these things, they were hurtful. I wasn't being annoying and I could have been more resolution oriented. And yeah, I thought that their interaction, out of everyone that had conflicting with Maria, Sidney and Maria's interaction was the best one in terms of like addressing it and moving forward. Yeah, and I thought it was really nice that Maria condemned the hate that they were receiving, specifically Sydney, because it's just been way too much.

Yeah, and I think like that's always like that shows like you being you know, a grown up. And yeah, it was nice overall, Like it was great.

And what did you think about the little group hug?

I was actually surprised to an extent only because like thirty minutes ago, Maria was like, Sydney, I tell the truth and you're a liar and Leah she was like, Leah, you're also a liar. And then they're all like it's fine, let's put it in the past. But at some point you do have to just just bury it.

Yeah you know what I mean, because like what are you gonna do? Like, because they're.

Also saying, Maria, you are doing all these things. Yeah, She's like no, I'm not.

So it's kind of like, yeah, whatever, it's over, Like we're really gonna just keep arguing about it, like what's the point.

Yeah. I thought it was good, like let's hug it out, let's put it to bad yep.

So then we okay, so now we cut to the show and we find out what the card that Kelsey left in Joey's hotel room is all about, which I watched this. What are you laughing at?

I just I'm laughing at what you're laughing at.

Yeah, you just kind of like you feel bad for Kelsey, just.

Like the way it all played out is unexpected, I guess because Kelsey is the one that's been freaking out for like three days.

She writes a note.

You can tell she's, like, you know, doing her best to like reassure Joey but also looking for reassurance, and Joey's eyes are filled with so much anger towards Kelsey.

I was like, WHOA, I was not expecting this.

You just knew Kelsey thought that was gonna go a different yes way, And I almost feel like it might have. Like I almost feel like she may have had different intentions going into that. I think she might have. I think when she initially wrote it, it was maybe like I'm considering, like I don't know if I could handle this anymore. I think I think maybe. And I think from the time of writing it to going back to her room to them rethinking the situation, I think she talked herself off the ledge and may have went in there with a different tune, and then it just kind of all just was like, oh, this is awkward.

Really, I think maybe I don't know.

To be honest, we will hopefully eventually have around this podcast we can ask her more about this card because it was a point of contention the last two weeks. But I think she was like had her conversation with Leslie sent her into a spiral. She's like like when she was saying to him, like, you know, I do want to meet your family, I'm not sure if I like explicitly said that. Like I think she was like thinking of all the things that she hadn't said to him and was like, oh my god, like I wish i'd said this. I wish I said this. And she's like, I'm going to use this time to like just tell him all these things to make sure he knows. I was like where I'm at and how I feel, so like I didn't leave anything off the table. Whereas Joey, I think, is like, oh my god, she's potentially going to send herself home, and I think she starts talking thinking that it's going to be like a good conversation and he's going to be like happy to be hearing these things from her and comforting her in her like anxiety. And he was like, how fucking dare you write me this card and sit your ass in front of me and tell me you want to meet my family? You scared the crap out of me.

Get out of my room.

If Joey was just the guy that just it just seemed like he's a person that like, just like that moment, like I didn't have my morning coffee yet, and you're bringing me a bunch of shit I don't fucking need right now, Like Levy, have buy coffee and let me figure out my day and then bring me the mess that you've created it by office.

Well, he explicitly said, he was like, I want to hear her out, like I want to like have this conversation to be there for her, But I have worked myself up so much over what card could mean and all the worst case scenarios of this card that I'm so like, I feel like at some point he experienced relief about what the card was about, but not in that moment. In that moment, he was just like, look, how dare you write this card like this? I have been in an absolute panic for the last three hours that you're going to send yourself home basically.

But I mean, we do ask Joey about the card.

We talk about it in the interview, and when we eventually get a chance to talk to Kelsey, we will ask her.

About it as well.

Right, Okay, And then the last part of the episode, like the main last part is Rachel comes out of the show, she gets a hot seat, she's very emotional.

Yeah, we see her get sent home at the Row ceremony.

Yeah, and you know, I feel for her. I actually thank her and Joey. I know there's a lot of people out there like it's giving me friend vibes. But I'm assuming there's a lot of their relationship that we didn't And I actually think I said to you that I actually think they're a good match.

Yeah, you did say, you're like, I think that she is really good for him and vice versa, Like I think they're a good fit for each other.

Yeah, I do. I think they.

I think they they they have good like complimentary qualities.

It seems like, Yeah, and she she was sad, and I think that's always that's always rough, like watching your breakup when it was a more serious one.

Yeah, and she did say like her tears were a mix of sad tears and happy tears for like what they shared, which I think is nice.

Nice way, and it's it's it's probably more difficult when like, it's easier when the bachelor like fucks up and he's kind of a dick at the end, he selfish whatever he does. It's it's easier to come off the show and be like, you know what, I dodged the bullet, where like Joey really was great the entire time. So it's just kind of like it's just all it is is sad, and that's kind of what we see that Joey comes out and Rachel talks about it's brought up all the hate she's getting on social media, which is like, it's I get it. Like we go on reality TV. We have to expect that there's gonna be good comments and bad comments.

That's part of the game totally.

And when everyone gets them both, some people more than others, obviously, but everyone gets them both.

Yeah, everyone gets them. And the truth is, but when you are somebody like like Rachel, who was involved in zero drama, she didn't do anything wrong.

No, she's not a controversial character.

On this show, and people are going to come for her for the way she looks and her background. It's like those people are really shitty people.

Oh they're the worst.

And it's like it's actually to the point where it's like somebody needs to tell those people to go fuck themselves, because it truly is like you're just like, like you're not Like it's one thing if you're a fan of the show and you want to talk shit what I don't agree with it, but like whatever, that's that's reality TV. It's another thing to just like really just like be a horrible person and racist and racist and calling out somebody with the way they look and and like it's like, are you fucking serious? Yeah, like it it's insane, And I hate talking about it because I do feel like it just adds fuel to the fire. Yeah, but it's fucking ridiculous, like it is. And and those people are the same people that if they saw you on the street, they'll come up and ask they'll come up and ask Rachel for a photo and still do that. And and I'm not like, trust me, we have a lot of amazing, amazing people that watch this show and that are that are rate and people that come up to still come up with us on the street and are very lovely, And honestly, I've been lucky enough and you've been lucky where we get a lot of just like wonderful comments and things people say, really nice things. So there's so many nice people, but I believe, still believe majority of those majority are good.

Yeah, And it's like you want to only highlight the people that are, you know, supporting Laxi and connecting with her story or like sending love to Joey or like you know, rooting for people that are getting like bullied on the show. But like you don't want to give your time and energy and attention to these people that are like sending these horrific messages because they're there and they've always kind of been there, and it's hard to imagine that they're going to go anywhere as much as we would like them too. But like at some point, like you do also have to acknowledge them, because it is a huge part of being part of this franchise, do you know what I mean? Like it's like it's frustrating when it's like I don't even want to give these people any attention or the time of day or like a single breath.

But it's like.

It is a reality of being someone on this show, especially when you're a person of color and.

Look at like and also like Rachel is, here's a girl who is involved in zero drama. Right. The only thing she did that could aggravate people is like she got a little upset for literally two seconds at Maria for calling out Joey right before the row ceremony, which most people would have been upset about. That's like the only thing. And not only that, she then gets her heart broken, Yeah, opens up, which she has has not wanted to do in forever, gets her heart broken, and then on top of it, she has to go home, and then people are going to trash who she is is a person because they don't like the way she looks. Yeah, is fucking insanity. Yeah, Like that's it's like it's like why would I go on this? Like like like yeah, like it is. It's hard because the people are not gonna want to go on the show.

Yeah, I couldn't agree with you more.

And the part that like really got me when she was talking was when she was saying, it's so hard for my family because they really enjoyed, like the experience of the Hometown episode and they had such a wonderful time watching it back, and then to go online and see what people are saying about their daughter just taints the entire experience, And like that is so true, Like something that people don't think about all the time is like her parents have to see that, her friends have to see that, Like when there's comments about you online, like your parents see that, and like that is it's not just hard on like her, it's going to be hard on her whole family, on her friends, on her community. And it's like those small comments are like a fucking, hateful, fucking racist, but just makes so much more of an impact than people even realize. And like the extent of the impact is not just on that one person, it's on like everyone that loves that person as well and looks like that person.

Yeah, that's it's ridiculous, honestly, I mean it's terrible. Yeah, no, it's it's it is. It's it's actually just it's it's just overall, it's just really shitty. And I hope we could get to a place where, you know, that stops. I don't know if it's anytime soon, but yet it's it's sad to see because there are so many, so many like great people part of Chachel Nation. So yeah, it sucks, but I feel for her and I actually I can't wait to talk to her.

So yeah, I think it was great that they gave her the floor to speak on that. I think she did a great job and we're going to be speaking with her more in our interview with her later, so we will pivot from Rachel and her journey on the show to wrap up with the end, which is Joey kind of touch base with some of the other women as well.

Yeah, Joey, it's just like, I love you all and like, this was great. I like it, And he's like, yeah, there's a lot of things I don't see, so that's fun seeing. And I bet that would be because I'm assuming like there are a few women, especially at the beginning, who he just was like may like probably like, oh you're way different than I thought. Yeah.

Well, it's like as a contest on the show, watching it back, you get to see his interactions with all the other women one on one for the first time, and it's the reverse for him, right, Like he gets to see what's happening in the house. So it's like half of the show is like new to everyone that was there filming yet.

Yeah.

Yeah, but I thought Sidney what she said was nice that you know, he's really genuine.

He reached out to her to check in on her.

Yeah, And it's like and you feel Sidney got a ton of hate too, and it's just like it's it's different from the Rachel hate. Like the Rachel hates like, in my opinion, way worse, but like it's it's Sidney also gets a lot of hate, and you people do have to remember that, like, yeah, people do and say crazy things on reality TV, and they do make mistakes because we're all human. And it's like you are only seeing a portion of who Sinny is, and you may be seeing in a majority of that portion is her maybe making a mistake. So it's like, fucking.

Let it go everyone, it's not that serious. Let it go.

If you want to say something mean, don't. But if you're just like fun shit talking about the show, say'd your mom saved your friend, you don't need to message them, you don't need to put it online, you don't need to come at it.

Okay, that wraps the episode. Stay tuned for later this week. Again, like I said, we have we are at the Women tell Also we have those interviews coming up. We have Maria Medina.

Jen Lexi, Joey yep.

And then and then the other interview will be dropping will be the Rachel interview. So stay tuned. Thank you guys for tuning in, We really appreciate it.

And we have the finale coming up next week, so be sure to tune in to see how Joey's journey for love ends. We know it's going to be a dramatic ending based on all of the teasers that we've seen, so check it out. And then we're going to have a recap in an interview dropping after that.

No, thank you, bye,

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