Today on “Golden Hour,” we’re back for part two with Jared Freid! We kick off with Kathy’s thoughts on this week’s Fantasy Suites episode of “The Bachelor”! Then, we’re jumping right back in where we left off: What’s the best way to get a second date with Jared? We spend more time catching up with him and getting his thoughts on Golden dating as he helps dish out advice to our listeners. Between a nasty future sister-in-law and being wrong about your bestie and boyfriend cheating, Jared has a lot to say! Tune in now to hear all this and more and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode.
Hello, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to another episode of Golden Hour. Before we pick back up with Jared Freed, I have to jump in and talk about the Fantasy Suites. Susan won't be able to do our recap today, but she'll be with Jared and me today, so make sure you stick around. Okay, I can't wait to get into this. Let's go. So I'm going to start with Zoe. Even though I know she was not the first one in the Fantasy Suites, I just have to say I could start falling in love. It's a tough situation. Let's have a chance to talk about stuff like this is the end of the show, folks. We're not going to talk about having children and all of that. It's ridiculous at this point. I mean, to me, it was so obvious she was going home. I love, love, love that Rachel showed up in support of Zoe. Rachel from Joey season, that she is so supportive of women. I mean, that made me feel great. Okay, let's move on. Grant he says, you know we would, we could, folks. That means it's over. I'm not feeling it. I get it, but you know, here's the thing. If you're trying to see if you have a relationship with somebody, or you're really trying to decide whether this is the person to send home, you know what you should do. You should have a date with someone where neither one of you can talk, because that's how you're really going to get to know each other. I mean, I have to say I burst out laughing when they went into this up into this yoga studio and it said Cilencio. I was like, they gotta be kidding, so no talking. That was like, here's your ticket out of here. I felt really sorry for her. They both were so uncomfortable. You know, they kept saying, oh, there's not a lot of time left. I wanted to say, yeah, you're just figuring that out now, you know, says like we still have a lot to talk about. It felt like a first date to me, not the end of the road.
So awkward.
If you didn't get the drift watching it, all you have to do is look at Grant's body language. I mean, the conversation they had that night, you know, she said, tell me about you. Literally almost died when he said, well, you know, I have a mom and I have a dad, and then we talked about his favorite color being blue. I just wanted to get out my engagement ring and say, you know what, I just need a guy who has a mother and a father and likes the color blue. I mean, really, this is this is the stuff of how you decide if she's your future wife. His face, it was painful, That's all I can say. You know, he looked like he was about to get a dip.
You know what is it?
Dip theory, a typhoid vaccine. I mean, he was in pain. So I think that for me, absolutely no surprise that she went home. Sorry if I'm if you haven't watched yet and I burst your bubble on that one. But I've been calling this for a few weeks. I thought it was really sad. And you know, I always look at this from a mom's point of view when they're both saying to each other that they could build a better family than we had growing up. And you know, I looked at the TV. I talked to my TV a lot when I'm watching this. I said, that's not love. We all hope to build a loving family with our partner and a great family, but that's not love for each other. That's just doing better than your parents did. Okay, so that does it for Zoe. I feel sorry for but I don't think it's coming as a surprise to anyone that she went home last night. Okay, well, okay, now let's get to Juliana. Daisy comes. Who who doesn't love Daisy? Also from Joey season. I loved her advice saying, you know, you know what you signed up for. You need to open up. Juliana again, for everyone who hasn't heard me say it a million times, is my hometown girl from Newton, Massachusetts, which is where I'm from. And I have to say spoiler alert for any of you. I have been saying all along that it's going to be Letia, But when we get to Latia, I'll tell you why. I think maybe it's not going to be her, and maybe it's going to be Juliana. Juliana clearly is struggling with her past experience of being cheated on and again as a mom who wants to see their daughter so upset and crying because she still feels the emotions of six or seven years ago, you know, from the past. But I love her attitude. She's she's happy, and she has a great personality. I did have a good laugh when she said the four wheeler. She said, this is what a crazy drive. It's such I love this side of Grant. And I'm thinking, what side of Grant? Are we talking about the fact that he can drive fast and you know, not talk.
I don't know.
I didn't get that. But I love that he wants her to be herself. And again, can you see or hear the envy in my voice? After they have the ride on the four wheelers and she said, you know, she's fixing her hair in her makeup, And I'm thinking to myself, really, this is as bad as you look. I mean, on my best day, I don't think I ever looked as good as Juliana. She is a beautiful girl. Here's the thing about Juliana. If you pick up on the little subtle things, he cannot wipe the smile off his face. It's like he got an a on a test he cheated on and he never got caught. Like this guy is happy. He wants her to open up. He says she's gorgeous, you know, with or without makeup. He thinks she's beautiful. That wide outfit. She looks like a million Bucks. I think it was hard for her to tell Grant that she'd been cheated on, although I feel like she's talked about that a lot, but she really did feel minimized by her ex. Again, I always come back to being a mom. How hard that must be. She said, she's still working on fixing herself. And you know, as a mom, we all want our daughters to be happy and find love. And as a mom, I would struggle if my daughter was still struggling, you know how many years later about being cheated on.
I would wonder if in fact.
She is ready or to get engaged, or in fact, is she willing to trust him. I don't have the answer to that, but we're going to find out, you know, in the next week. I loved when Grant said, where someone else screwed up, he sees treasure.
I mean, this guy.
If this doesn't work out, Grant, you need to get a job writing cards for Hallmark, because you've got the words.
I don't know.
I think they talked about making a good team. He said he's falling in love with her. She feels seen and supported, like let's just sign the wedding bands. Now they seem like it's all there, They're comfortable with each other, she feels heard, they both love to laugh together. Again, I think she's struggling a little bit with the issue of two other girls. You know, if I look like Juliana, I wouldn't be worried, but I get that she is. That just comes with youth, and I don't mean to minimize that, because I'm sure if I were in that position. I mean, I never got that far with Gary, thank god, but if I had, I would have been worried about you know, Teresa and Leslie.
I could, I could see that.
But I do love that these girls seemed to show such affinity for each other and really care about each other. Okay brings me to Letilla who Katie from Zach season, who's engaged to Zack, who lives in my hometown, well, my adopted hometown of Austin, Texas. I love Katie and Zach, and I don't think I knew that Zack had slept with another woman, and frankly, I don't care because he got Katie and she's amazing. But I loved the advice that Katie gave to Lytia. Believe what he says, focus on the relationship and I think that's great advice. When Grant said again that she would be a great wife and mother and he's falling in love with her, and I'm thinking I had to laugh because he said, again, you got to pick up on the small things here, folks. He said he wanted to see if she had a sense of adventure. So let's put her on a zipline in the d R and see if she can hold on tightly. I mean, there's adventure and there's adventure. I actually have ziplind and it's fun, but it is scary. Lydia said, I'm not one for adventure. I thought, well, that's one nail in the coffin for you. And you know, is that foreshadowy en of what's to come? Is that a good edit?
Is that? Were they just dropping a hint that she won't be the one? I don't know. Letia the biggest thing about this this date.
Uh.
She said she's not ready for physical intimacy, and I love that Katie supported her in that, And again I had a little bit of a laugh.
Uh.
You know, Grant seemed pretty nervous, not too smiley when she said she was struggling with the other woman and the other relationships and wasn't sure she was ready for physical intimacy. Lydia, I give you great kudos. You know, Joan did that on the Golden Bachelorette, and I think you have to do what feels right to you, So kudos to you. I did find it again maybe a little bit of foreshadowing when she says she's thirty one and she's ready to have kids and he's like, uh, well, you know, I don't know kids. I mean, that seems pretty fast to me, and I'm thinking, I don't know, two years she's thirty three doesn't seem fast to me, but whatever. I do have a lot of respect for her though that she told him she didn't want to hear about the other women, and I love the fact that she and Katie talked about her telling Grant that and she actually did it. So I love that she said no sex. You know, it's it's it's simple. No is a complete sentence. Grant took it well. I mean, what's he going to do really at that point? What can he say? But he tells Letilla he loves her, which I don't know.
I don't know.
I'm sure somebody can correct me on this. I'm not sure that on air another Bachelor told a woman he loves her before they're at the altar getting the final rows. I could be wrong, but he earnestly told Letia that he loved her. So I'm hearing I'm hearing something in my ear saying that Ben Higgins did, so I stand corrected. But it's not common. It's not common to have that happen. So, you know, Letia says that she loves that he makes her feel safe and supported, and she wants a husband who where she feels safety and support and kindness and understanding, and we love each other. I mean, that's what I heard, and it feels like we're supposed to be together. Wow, to me, that just sounded like a proposal. I'm like, okay, maybe, you know, maybe this is Letia not Juliana. How whoever did everyone pick up on the fact Grant starts back and out of that whoe? You know, maybe I spoke too soon, you know, got caught up in the moment, you know, and I wanted to say to him, Grant, you know, when you get caught up in the moment, you put too much chocolate sauce on your ice cream or too many sprinkles. You don't tell a woman you love her and you can see a life with her that to me, maybe have gone a bit far. Again, though he seems so uncomfortable in this whole thing with Litia.
I don't know.
I just don't know. But we know that Zoe and Grant weren't in a place to get married. That comes under duh. I think with Juliana and Letia, I think he really is struggling. I think he really does love both of them. You know, I should be so lucky to have two guys fawning out for me, but I see that it's a possibility.
I love the fact that he spoke.
With his parents, and you know, again, I hope people didn't miss this fact. Again, as a mom and having children, my husband's passed away, so I would not have this opportunity. But the fact that his dad has been in rehab and through the magic of production and television, his mother and father are back together to talk to him, and to me, that was a poignant scene that they were together in support of their son. And again it kind of makes me cry now. It's just I love that that they are there to support their son because in the end. You know, we created these kids, and we need to love and support them whenever they need it.
Sometimes when they don't need it, we need to do it.
But I think the fact that his mother said, you know, maybe or hinted at in the promos, you know, don't choose either one, I don't know. I don't see that happening, but maybe it does. I really do feel like he is torn between two women.
So I think in.
Overall last night, Grant seems so uncomfortable to me, and maybe just the reality of this is really coming down to a proposal in two or three days. The only time I thought he seemed really sure of himself was when when Jesse said, do you know what you're going to do tonight? And he said, yes, I do. I mean, it was very emphatic yes. So again, I had made several bets with my friends that Zoe was going home and I was actually going to have to eat a pile of dirt if I was wrong. So I'm really glad I was right on that one. I don't know, I've been saying it's letia. I want my hometown girl Juliana to win. Putting Newton on the map. I don't know at this point. I think it's a toss up. I could see it going either way, and I can't wait. I cannot wait to see where this goes. All in all, it was a great night. Lots of drama, lots of happiness, lots of sadness. Grant, I'm wishing you good luck. Okay, Well, stay tuned for Grant's finale, And in the meantime, let's get back to our good friend.
Jared Freed.
We're back with part two with Jared Freed, so let's dive right back in.
Are you ready, Jared? I'm ready?
Are you Guys asked me what makes a good first date to get to a second date. I would say, I've thought about this. If I have to ask what are you up to this weekend, then we've had just a fine first date, not a great one, cause that's like my arrow in the quiver of like, let's have something else to talk about.
Like, I think the quicker you're at what are you doing this weekend?
The worst the data is because like that means you're not talking about nothing, which is a good first date.
This week you want to see if you want to see them again?
Right?
I think it would have to come at the end.
If it's in the middle, I think if it happens quickly, like if I'm asking that we've run out of things.
To talk to me.
If I ask you what kind of sneakers you have on, we're done like you have on?
If you get to like, you know.
Like there's a question that if you feel you have to ask it, you're on an okay date, not a great date.
R So how do you get the second day?
I think if you're asking somebody what they're doing is because you want to make sure you're involved in what they're doing.
Right, That's not where I'm more just like we got to like fill the air here, you know, like I'm.
We're never at a loss for words, really.
You and I. That's why we got a second date.
That's why I don't get a second date. That's why I don't We just gotten second date. We got them for a second episode.
Yeah, this is.
Not that's a filling. It's somewhat fulfilling.
So wait, is there no girl in your life right now? There's nobody.
I I'm kind of Oh, I'm going I told you I'm going to New Zealand tomorrow.
You going by yourself going by myself.
I uh, well, but you know what, how quickly they forget since and I swear in the last episode part invited.
Me to come with him. Thanks lunch. You know what, you got a memory issue here? What you better have? You better have to get that live flat suit.
So you're going to perform, are you?
Yah?
I'm doing six shows or seven shows, uh, all around the country, New Zealand and Australia.
So yeah, it's it's yeah, it's weird. I don't know.
I'm like I said it before, Like I'm like mixed emotions, Like I remember being at my dad's fortieth birthday, Like that's weird to me, And like, you know, it's hard. I think that's the hardest part, the divide between like maybe your generation of mine is like it's just different now, like it's and and like you it's hard to not judge yourself against your own childhood.
You know.
I think a lot of people in the dating world deal with that, like they do the when my mom was my age, when my dad was my age, and you can't it's no.
He's not a millennium were you you are? He's right at the Yeah, let me tell you millennial. My daughter, it's exactly the opposite. My daughter was like, Mom, I'm never doing what you're doing. I'm never getting married when i'm young. I'm not going to marry some guy from upstate New York. Can I tell have you ever heard of Auburn, New York?
I've never heard of it.
Exactly, that's where her husband's from. It's between Syracuse and Rancho. She ended up doing the same, exactly right, she did.
That's hilarious. Yeah, she doth protest too much. That's right. She got married a little older than I did.
But yeah, that's but even her saying you won't do it is her comparing.
You know, I love the version, loved it. Well.
My daughter was like, it started about thirty seven and she's raising kids, and the apologies they came in, Mom, I am so I don't know how you dealt with us, because she's dealing with teenagers now.
It's not grandkids.
Yes, unbelievable, Kathy, you no, I have a six year old and a two year old granddaughter, two granddaughters.
I have you guys have teen?
Thirteen, twelve?
Oh?
Can I just tell you I hated my in laws. I hated them. They would come over and give my kids candy, and.
They didn't like the steam.
They didn't like me either, steam coming.
Out of my can I tell you, I go from my daughter's house, my granddaughter's name.
I go over to say, Reese, what would you like? I can't. My daughter goes nuts to say sorry, I love being a grandmother. I spoiled Roddy. I'm starting to hear that from my parents.
They're like saying, and I never they never pushed us to like get married. They never thought like it was never like a topic. And now they're starting to be like, we need grandkids. I'm like, when did this happen? You know?
I think there's like do they have any grandkids at all?
No, my brother got married almost a year ago and he's four years younger.
So to a Jewish woman.
Jewish girl from Saint Louis, how'd they mean? It's actually a crazy story. I went on a podcast called The Latka Room, which is a Jewish sports podcast.
It was during the pandemic. Great name it is two.
It was like three Jewish guys who played pro Ish hockey.
Great guys.
This guy Johnny Lazarus.
He's now like I think the podcast turned into a good opportunity for them, Like he's now on you know all this hockey shows?
Yeah, And I went.
On, and midway through I'm like, I'm not an athlete, Like I don't know, maybe you should have known.
Yeah, I was like.
And so then my brother works in sports, so I called him and I go, you got to listen to this podcast. These idiots from Long Island have this like dumb jewish podcast and and he I go, I think you should maybe go on. He's like, I'm not going on, but I was like, can you listen to see how I sounded? And he goes and listens, and then the next epic episode is his wife now wife. She goes on and she's a sports uh sportscaster from Providence who was moving to Miami to take on a big job at the local NBC station.
So she tells her whole story.
She went to Michigan, she works in Providence, and she's, you know, does sports. And my brother listens to the whole episode, and then she goes moves to Miami and they match on Hinge like within like a few out and then they match and then he already knows everything about her, and they go you know.
Did he know did he know that it was the same girl?
Yeah, he knew every he knew her whole life story because she just told it on this podcast.
But no, I'm saying she knew she was did she know? Not any no idea?
So like he basically and I don't know how he never really, I don't know how quickly he told her this, but he kind of already knew about her.
That is so cool.
They had like a COVID day like on a bench, and then within a year they're moving in together and I'm moving out with my ax.
Like we went in two different directions. So, oh, you hold on, you lived with a woman. I lived with a woman for a year. Did you put her? Did you put your socks in the hamper? Is that why you're asked? That's why she she dumped me because of the socks that. I don't know how you knew that.
Do you have a type, Jared, Yeah.
I have? You know, I definitely have a type.
I like curvy, you know, dark hair women, that's like my that's the look I generally. But I'll fuck anyone, you know, Like I just want to make sure that people know this, Like I'll have sex with.
That's just pretty much any type of woman.
But yeah, but what do you do when the next morning they say, like they're on the Bachelor, I think I've met my future husband.
What do you say?
Do you?
Generally, I say, this guy's got a vase of roses in the other room.
He just brings it out in hands.
About I'm like, here's you know, I'm like Derek Jeter, you can give that the gift back. No, I see, that's the thing. I'm not, like, I'm not a fuck guy like I've been talking with this on stage a lot, because like, I'm not like a guy who like goes out and is like I gotta get with a woman tonight. Like I'm more like a I gotta get with pizza tonight like guy like I I so like, which is like that's like, so I I generally am lazy when it comes to dating, you know, and pursuing, which is like something I don't like about myself because I wish I was more like I wish I was like, you don't have pursuing.
I know, but I I just you know, so you know.
Women don't DM me to like get with me like they I get DM by the mom to like go on a date with their daughter, like this happened. I'll tell you this, this is crazy. The other night, I'm at the comedy seller. I'm performing and I'm doing my new material, which is like whatever, but it's about how I went to Europe alone. So I'm talking about going to Europe alone and how I hated it, like I didn't fuck one woman in Europe, like it's a whole thing.
And he knows he doesn't talk about the wine.
Views wine on the train is fabulous and everything.
I'm with you, Susan, I love everything about going to Europe, don't get me wrong, except you know, the women don't want to fuck me. So I I'm talking about this and it's like my sad single story. Because sometimes when you're working material, you go down a direction You're like, ah.
This is how I want to sound, but this is how I'm sounding.
So then I get off stage and the host is on stage and he's talking to me from on stage. Suddenly a woman of the right she goes, Jared, Jared, you got to meet my daughter. You got to meet my daughter. I go, I go where is she? She goes just right here and I go in the middle of the room, like, and the host is like, Jared, what's going on over there? I go, I think she's trying to fix me up with her daughter. And she goes and he goes, what does she look like? I go, I don't know, Like I'm like embarrassed. All of a sudden, another girl comes up to me and is on my right, and I look, and this new woman goes, you got to meet my friend, And I go, is this happening?
Twice? I go, where's your friend? She goes upstairs?
I go, this is too awkward for me, Like I feel uncomfortable, like I'm upstairs right, I know, And it's like water, water everywhere, not a drop to drink, because like this isn't like how I'm going to meet someone like this is, and and like I this is why no one wants to hear from single men. No one wants to hear from single men, because like all these women, they don't want to fuck me. They just want to go, let's go on a date and have a good time and feel safe and then we'll see like.
And it's got to be a good restaurant and all those things.
So now I'm getting asked to pay for them like you know, like this is like so it's like I can't afford it. I I don't have the time, I don't have the energy. And I feel bad because like they're not wrong, like it's I should be. I'm actually like I'm I'm like, I'm I am truly like I feel very flattered, like but they get this.
Two pack right. You don't work when you leave so hard.
I got two muscles in.
There they're both working on.
And you're a great audience member. I would have you at any show. Kathy would be at the show the whole time.
What is he saying? What's going on? I got what are you talking about?
I hear every word you're saying. What the hell is wrong with you talking about that? For you? I have a question, Jared, this is a really important one.
Sure you're the best. Do you say Jared or Jared.
I've got I don't. I've never thought about it.
If you're from Jared Jared, I would say Jared, and you would say Carrie because.
You carry, and I'd say rum instead of room.
I said.
North, Kathy, were you near South? Excuse me?
I grew up in West Newton, right near Brayburn Country Club and I'm so old. It wasn't North or South. I went to Newton High School, which is now Newton North.
Really my dad went to South. My uncles and aunts, they were all they lived on it.
You know Cynthia Road. Oh my god, that's right down the road from where I grew up. Yeah, that's what I know. Would I know them? Well, my last name's Free, so well.
That doesn't excuse me. It doesn't take excuse me. It does not take an m b A to know that. Just because your last name is Freed does not fair.
But they were the Freeds, and like my my dad has three siblings, so it's like they went up and down the age range.
But that's very cool. No, and your dad went to Newton High I think Cynthia Road was just on the border.
You're right, right, And because I lived by this wobbin signed wobbin was Newton.
South, I know exactly because we used to drive by that other golf course where we'd go sledding all the time. Yeah if that was Brayburn, the big Kill, Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know that you were not allowed to be on that hill. You know that. You tell me you three thousand people.
Jarre believe it or not, We're going to ask you to help. Just sh out some advice from These people are fans that write in Okaya, I love.
I love having impact on people's lives that are not my own.
Okay, so here we go. This one is from Linda. So I think my boyfriend's sister hates my guts. What do I do? I met his family for the first time last week, and it was so awkward. Every time I would try to talk during dinner with him, his sister or his parents, his sister would bring something up that only they could talk about, like inside jokes from the past family vacations, and would just say, oh, sorry, you had to be there. She was constantly making snide comments like I wish I had a silly little job like yours. Being a nurse is so exhausting. I have no idea what I could have done. My boyfriend apologized for his sister's behavior after we left, but said she's just always been a little bit of a pret I think it's a lot more than that, lol. She writes, what does this mean? Why does she act like this around me? Is she jealous? His parents allegedly like me, but they fed into everything his sister was doing at dinner. So I'm a little put off. What do I do now? And thank you?
This is a tough situation for this one.
See, she has to have your your vocab, your your quickness and come back for something.
I just think, like this sister stinks. She's a tough hang.
I actually take the guy for his word, Like, I think she's used to being with men.
Like my I'm my.
Brother and I okay, Like we have no sisters, so my mom is the sister.
My mom is the one woman in the house, so like it is.
But yeah, but then for any woman that tries to come in, she's a big fucking pain in the ass. And she and I talk about this on stage a lot, like it's like and also if I don't date so weird, this is weird. I'm admitting this is weird if I don't date someone that if I date someone that my mom is like, it's different from my mom. My mom takes that as an offense to her, like because I'm choosing, it's it's as if I'm choosing, not against her. So this is how out of their minds women are. So like this is so like this sister, like she has to not take it personally and also understand that her brother or that her boyfriend has no clue how to handle this situation.
All ten, how about her saying about her silly little job like yours? Yeah right, I.
Mean, I don't think this is anything new for this family, Like when he says that, like, I think this is like, like I actually think like to take this personally, like is the mistake? She right, you have to trust your boyfriend, and I would get more you know, curious with your boyfriend, like I would get more curious as to the sister's story. The more you hear about the sister story, the more you're gonna understand why she sucks so much. She's gonna be Oh, she can never keep a job, she could never get a boyfriend, she can never she always had issues in school, she never had like a big group of friends. You're gonna and then the more you hear about the more you're gonna feel bad.
But she's so you should just be nice to her and move on, right, Be nice to you got a good boyfriend who cares.
It's her problem, right.
While she's doing this, just keep be a great listener, Be a great listener, Great listeners are great talkers. So the ked to good comedy is listening. And it's like, I think, if she just listens to her boyfriend and like the story of the sister, if the next time they go over, she's just a listener.
She's not trying to be it. You know, don't spar with her.
She's not worth sparring it because even the parents, even the parents, she says, the parents, his parents allegedly like me, but they fit into everything his sister was doing at dinner. Yeah, yeah, the parents are like, I don't want to deal with this either.
She stinks.
If the parents could tell you, they would be like, we fucking hate her, but we have to deal with her and just we pay the bills.
So she shut the fuck up.
And Linda's saying, why does she act like this around me? It's not about you, Linda, it is it. Don't take it personally. She's just wants to be the center of attention.
Absolutely, it might not be us.
What does she have to be jealous of her? That's her brother right.
Well, here's the even crazier part. This is the one place she had ownership of where people couldn't leave her.
It's her family. They have to deal with her so like you've now entered, do they? But do they?
Right? They do this dinner with her? Why is she so free to meet her, you know, be at this family dinner. She should be out with her own friends.
Well, Linda is put off by this, and laugh at her jokes and get through it and leave. You don't have to do it constantly.
My best advice to Linda is to laugh at it with your boyfriend and not get personally.
Offended by it. Laugh at it, laugh with him, include him on the joke about her.
But the only way you get there is to be curious about her, ask about her life, care for her, empathize with her.
Position.
God Jared's kindness, Jared, that's just so kind of you.
Bless you now that means you don't say that, all right, Moving on to the next one.
Anonymous, good yeah, really good luck. Okay, Oh my god. I really need you guys to help me. I have been paranoid for the past two months that my boyfriend of three years and my best friend of five years are sleeping together. When I first sat down to write into you, guys, I was going to ask for adviy some what to do next. Looking back, I really wish I would have done that. I decided to take matters into my own hands and confront them both. Well, turns out I was definitely.
Wrong best friend, that's the catch. She wished she was right now.
So I had my best friend come over and confronted them both that I knew what was going on. Not only did they each let me look through their phones without flinching, but it also didn't take long for me to realize that I was completely in the wrong.
So how do I do damage control?
My boyfriend asked for some space ha and we haven't talked outside of good morning and good night. We lived together. My best friend hasn't talked to me since the incident. I totally went in accusing them, and I really don't want to lose either of them, let alone both. Any advice would be great, Please help me and thank you? What say you, Jared?
This is like the worst case scenario, like because not only like I don't want to scare her anymore, but now the boyfriend is like, maybe I could have Rachel, you know, like there's a little bit and I'm not listen, I'm gonna get I'm gonna like I'm gonna give her some like I think, like the one thing I will let me just like let her not feel crazy something is wrong in her relationship, Like I I think that's the one thing she has to like be okay acknowledging and like she she can't lose faith in her own feelings, like you.
She's not a crazy person, reason right.
And I think it starts with her like seeking out professional help and like going getting to the root of like.
Jared just jumps right to it, she needs professional help in men she does. I mean, you did your big detective moment.
Okay, I'm just saying, like I think she has to start with like where does the jealous he come from? Is it a personal issue or is the relationship off? And she's trying to make this off relationship work. Whenever you're in a relationship that like someone isn't trying and you're trying, you're like, am I crazy? So it seems like she's in this relationship where like I'm not trying to blame him now that she's done him. She did her friend and him wrong, but like where did that come from? Like I think she has to get to the root of like why.
Usually you know I always say, problems in a marriage, problems in a relationship are often not what you're seeing. It's usually a symbol or a sign of something deeper that's going on, you know.
Right, And she probably saw her best friend and him enjoying each other's company in the way she's not enjoying her company with him, and she's like, why are they You know, I'm watching the relationship.
I would want I should have gone to medical school and been a psychiatrist.
Well, ten years, ten years of how are you feeling today? Talk to me about it? That's right.
The U podcasts, you can get these pearls every week twice a week on the UF podcast. I know, but I will say it is her seeing them be this like fun time. She's like, well, why don't we have fun? And I think right, and it's like, so you have to figure out And again that might mean a breakup, That might mean that this is in the relation.
But like I do think it is crazy.
To like get that far be like ah and then be like wait, wait, hold.
It, hold it. I gotta be that other person. People are really good at deleting messages, and it could have happened and those two are.
Going they were right. No, no, no, she believe them when they were there, they.
Were Susan, I actually think that's like there there is a percentage chance that these two are Body and Clyde and they are the greatest. Like to me, I don't have the energy like right they I don't have the energy to like go this, like why go this far? Just break up and be together and like stop fucking with this woman.
But I good because I always.
Like when I when I hear these questions, I always lean on the side, like I believe in the bell curve of life, like most of us are ten percent away from each other. So like in my mind, I'd be like, this is my chance to break up with her, Like I I like, I don't want to be in this relationship.
He's only saying good night. I think this is what he's gonna end up doing. And yeah, I think.
This relationship him and says okay, I fucked up. Either to hate me forever. I'm sorry if she loses him.
You know what, Anonymous? You being serious? Now you learned the lesson of your life. I hope, well I will say this.
I actually I care for this emailer because they're never gonna like trust themselves again. But I do want to encourage them that like something was off, so like if there was end this and if you end this, like if he doesn't end this and you guys try to work this out, Okay, you have to get to the root of where the jealousy comes from.
But like if he's like, I'm out, you know.
You accuse me of this and something, well, something that was something he was looking to be dumped, and guys love being dumped.
Okay. Every man wants to be dumped, okay, because they want to be the dump war and not the dumpy.
They want to be the dumpy, dump me, dump me to I don't want to be the evil one. I don't want to be the one that waste your time. I don't want to be the guy that like that you go to your brunch table and you're like and he said he doesn't like my grandmother, Like, I don't want to be that person. I want to disappear, Like it takes me in the future, right, it takes me for ever forever.
Cat He's like, just tell.
I can't do that, right because I actually do it very recently, very real.
What time is it?
It's not all Right before we go, I was saying, and I want to hear was it amazing?
I want to go.
We've replaced for a whole month. Next year, come next year with us, Come with us for a month a month. I'll come back in two weeks, do some things and go right back.
Is it like a timeshare type of things? Like it's paid for? The ask? It's fabulous.
Of the water, the people being serious, No, all humor aside. The people there are the most kind, generous.
Loving, warm. You just feel like family the minute you get there. It's crazy. I love that. Good for you guys, and we make friends.
We're welcome back.
We'll get you, we'll get your day coming, We'll get your or we'll get you.
Take your parents. But they're French to eat and.
We stay on the side, not food outside. All right, before we go there, we're gonna play a quick game with you. Okay, oh boy, wait, we didn't ask. Do you have any questions for us or advice for us?
Do I have any questions? Yeah? Advice? Okay, anything you want to know about us? No, not particular.
No, you're that date that says we're ended it here.
I'm going to Australia.
What would you say I should do to like pick up a woman while I'm in Australia? What what would you guys want? How would I? How would you do it? How would you want to be picked up?
Wait a minute, did you not hear the question? Do you have or advice for us?
Us?
Why is it about you? Derek? Yeah? You know stage.
I will say one thing, I will answer a question. Ask you for advice?
Jared, you have a beautiful smile. Smile for woman and say can I buy you?
Look at that? Do not love that face?
Thank you? All right? Now what's our advice?
Do you want to have some coffee? Do you want to listen to the kangaroos?
Where's it? Sounds like she's gonna like kill a kangaroo? You want to see a kangaroo? Watch what I do to the kangaroo? Who owes me money? That pouch looks a little thick kangaroo.
I like the animals to stay over there.
Yeah, okay, he's got no.
Guys, keep doing what you're doing. I don't what you guys gonna need my advice?
You kidding?
In love? In relationships?
The hell? He doesn't know sh about love?
Why are we asking him nothing really next.
Yeah, you asked the question. All right, we're gonna play. Here we go.
We're gonna play a golden classic. Never have I ever love it? Okay, So here we go. You're gonna fess up, Jared, we're putting on the spot. All right, give us one.
Do you want me to do one? Yeah?
Never had I ever?
Never have I ever eaten something out of the trash. Oh? Neither?
Eh, it's right you Okay, I drank? I did I have? It was on top of the trash. You did.
You were pretty damn thirsty or drunk. Were in the desert, a little drunk desert. He's drunk.
I don't know. You put me on the spot.
I can't really. I hate this game.
Never have I ever, never ever ever sucked on someone's foot, I Amy, you have you have? Well, they're Tyler's not their foot.
That's like a foot fetish thing or is it just in the moment?
It was definitely a foot fetish things in the moment. It was in the moment. Said, really, what happened he got clean nails? I mean, what happened?
Well in the moment. Okay, Kathy, let me ask you a serious question. You're in each other's arms.
You can you don't understand she is straighter than straight. She obeys the law, she follows.
How many episodes have you've done? I finally got to the good stuff with Kathy.
Let me just say, I just know that, like, I'm not a I'm not a foot guy like you know you hear these foot love the feet?
I you are you an asked guy? A boot guy? Who are you? I bet your guy? I am an asked guy.
I like a big a, but no, I like curvy women like I like, yeah, I asked, and titty.
I'll take them both tits and for kids.
I've never sucked on the toes, but I just don't understand how it happens.
Just no, I've actually I've never sucked on toes. I've had my toes sucked. You've had so that guy has he had that?
I don't know. I didn't.
I didn't say could we stop kissing down your body? And then all of a sudden you're like, how low are you gonna go? And you're like you're gonna kiss my shin? And he's like, I'll keep going, and then all of a sudden he's.
Jared. You had to be there in the moment. You know you had to be there. I think, I don't think. I think I just want to I.
Just want to address one thing here with Susan. She talks about me following the rules. I don't know, Jared, you tell me. We are on little Whining Roads in Saint Martin and she's chip chatting with somebody on WhatsApp in her hand while she's driving, hitting the corner.
It's like we're playing bumper pool going and I'm like, Susan, stop, what's all right? I know where I'm going. I'm like, I see my life in front of my eyes. I love that.
Kathy's so mad that you said that she's a rule follower, and she's like, no, I'll tell you I was feary.
I am more.
I will say I'm more of a rule follower than Susan. I will say that. But you know what, you know what?
What?
Why are we talking about rules? We're talking about toes.
I can't imagine.
I can't imagine sucking on Kathy's toes.
Toe.
I think you're gonna wipe them off. You're gonna use a paper towel.
Just what if you were on barefoot on the beach.
That what don't ruin here? It did? I got one yesterday. We're all good.
Now.
I let somebody massage them. You can get the oils and massage.
There's so many things running through my head right now that I can that. It's so not PG that I cannot.
This is why it's This is why I.
To think it's something that's not PEG. It's like she's killing that, she's dying over there.
I'm so happy.
I went from eating out of the trash to you know what, I never had the rules come out to the rules so much that she answered, honestly to has toes been in like you could just lie?
I did? I said I had.
I have never have I ever sucked toes?
Oh that's that was creative? Can you do any better? Okay?
Never have I ever hooked up with a guy in a foreign country?
I haven't I have? She has good for you, Susan. What country?
Italy?
Italy?
Italy in Florence.
Actually I studied abroad in Florence.
Where'd you go to school?
Jared? Penn State? Penn State. You spoiled little child, that's right, not Penn. This is what. No, she doesn't know.
I was the education of the tongue. Yeah, you went to the dumb one, the Ivy league. He went to the one where people He went to the one where people who can't go to the ivy leagues and want to be in Pennsylvania.
That's where they go.
That's all. That's right, that's right. All right, end this game, okay, because I don't like.
All right, all right, we're done. All right, you know what. I hate to do this, but we actually do have to wrap. I know Jared's got to get out and look for widness.
I got to go to Australia. I gotta go to Happy Happy, Happy birthday to you. Really truly, I appreciate it. You know what pleasure talking with you guys. Say good night and goodbye to your thirties. My last few hours I got.
Do you feel a certain way with the forties?
I feel I get reflective on birthdays? I never like think the year doesn't matter as much as the passing of a year, like did I accomplish what I want?
Did I?
You know? Do I feel like I I've.
Evolved And that's kind of tough for me to deal with.
So on your team, we think you're Greatthday. I threw a black tie event.
That's wonderful.
It was the people were leaving going this was better than any wedding I've ever went to.
Right because no ceremonies to get here, and I'm the.
Weirdo who takes it a step further. I don't, I don't. I can't tell you what I did on my fourith birthday, my fiftieth birthday, I said, I don't care because to me, I don't count the years. I just look at my life. Am I being excuse to have a party?
Cat, that's a different thing.
You can have a question, udgy answer, Cathyty.
You could know.
I said, have a party. Whenever the fuck you want to have a party, I said, I don't. I don't.
On that note, we got to rock because we're gonna get fired. I think I don't know.
Don't get fired? All right, listen, Thank you guys.
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