Bachelor Happy HourExclusive: In Her Healing Era with Kylee Russell | ‘Golden Hour'
Today on “Golden Hour,” Kathy and Susan are here with “Bachelor in Paradise” star Kylee Russell! She is kicking off this episode hot as we dive right into all things Kylee, including some dating updates. Then, we ask Kylee to help answer some of your questions. Plus, we find out what’s next for her.
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Only today our Bachelor Nation star Kylie Rustless here. Hi, Kylie, thanks so much for joining us. We're so excited to be chatting with you. I have so many questions, we don't know where to begin.
You're adorable.
Thank you, Thanks, ladies. I am so excited. I have been dying to meet you, so just get to talk to you today. I am kind of freaking out inside a lots to cover, but I'm so excited to be talking about it with you and then hopefully get some advice from my big sisters.
Oh big sister, you hear that, Susan, big sister. Okay, First, Kylie, I want to tell you the three of us have something in common. So I listened to your podcast with Serena and Joe and we'll get into that a bit. But Susan, the three of us have a lot in common. She loves Christmas. When I was on the Golden Bachelor, that one of the things I said. I was obsessed with Christmas. But more importantly, more importantly, she loves tequila, my favorite drink. Am I right? And Susan? Are you ready? And guess what else? Susan? She loves all things Italian, loves Italian food. Are we sisters? Or are we? Then?
I was about to say I need to try your meatball, Susan, and then think her sister is definitely separated at birth, so let's get together.
Are you Italian?
I'm not Italian? I think always the first question someone asks you when they meet me is like, Okay, Kylie, what are you? Because my look is so ambiguous. But my mom is fully white, and then my dad is half black, half Cherokee Indians. So I'm a little bit of a mutt.
You're beautiful, You are gorgeous. You are, but.
It's always a good conversation starter.
All right, we live in San Diego.
Yes, I live in San Diego. I moved there back in February with Jess from the show. I'm actually in North Carolina. I'm visiting my family right now.
But are you in Charlotte? Are you in Charlotte.
I'm in Charlotte. Yes, born and raised here.
I did my research.
My ex husbands from Charlotte.
Oh no, if I see him, I'll give him the evil eye if that's which.
Oh no, No, we're good friends here, but that's where we love them.
But yeah, no, definitely going to settle back in Charlotte one day.
All right, tell me about life in San Diego. That's like the best climate on the universe.
Oh, my god, it is literally paradise on earth. The only thing that kind of would not allow me to stay there forever is because my family is back in Charlotte. But San Diego has been great to me thus far. I enjoy my work so much there. I'm still a post part nurse, so I take care of all the new mamas and babies.
I was impressed you got on the day shift. When you move there, can.
You tell me about that. I want to say I'm a unicorn because you are.
You are unicorn one, so I know I know you loved taking my daughter had a baby in the nick you for and and the post part of nurses. Let me just hats off to all of you out there. You guys are amazing. You don't you know? You know what a new mother is like, and you guys do an admirable job. So the next time I have the baby, which will be the twelfth Comember, I'm coming to you in her next life.
I will take such good care of you.
Pay Okay, we got to get to the big tea here though, because we got a lot to come up. I want to be caught upon your day with I know because I listened that you told Joe and Serena that the door was still open for you, and is it.
This information is still very new and raw, and this has been something This has been the first platform, or even really the first big conversation I've had about this. So I might get a little emotional. So we're here for you.
We're here for you.
Yeah, it's just a lot. It has been a six month period post show too unpacked, and I don't even know if mentally I'm fully like kind of subttled with it, but I'm want to do the best I can today. So recently, even and I decided to part ways. So we'll start by saying the door is closed. There's a lot he'd gone forever, and that's something I'm still coping. Like. That's a big reason why I'm here with my family, just because, like I said, it's been a year of him and I but the six months post me finding out of his infidelity has just been so hard. And although everyone, especially on the internet, has told me, Kylie like you deserve better, it's time to walk away, that's still a lot easier said than done, especially when you love someone so much like I did. Even and so I think right now I'm just in my healing era and trying to find the ability just to kind of have my own life in San Diego, which is Kylie her being single, and just kind of settling with myself and being by myself.
I want to say, when I listened to you talking on Serena and Joe's podcast, a couple of things I just want to say. And I said this before. I said it to Susan because she listened to most of it but missed this part. You said that you know the drawer, if you could do the work. You said all these things, And I said to Susan, she doesn't know it yet, but the door is closed, did I not? Susan? You said, you said, and you you could, You just didn't know it yet. But we are happy for you that you are a sure beautiful lady, and the fact that you've made a decision that works for you is I mean, what else can you say? Yeah, it's going to take time to heal.
Yeah, I wish like that. I think what I've been saying to everyone. I wish I could close my eyes and blinked. A couple of months ago, a month, a couple of months from now. Excuse me, because I just want to I want to be healed already. I'm tired of being sad, but I know that just takes time. This is my first ever heartbreak. I've never been in love before or honestly had a real relationship.
How old are you again, Kylie?
Twenty six, twenty six, twenty six, Kylie, would you mind sharing what happened?
Yeah? So, after finding about the infidelity, I was like, Okay, I don't think I can beat with this man any longer.
I don't just a one time flinger. Was it a relationship?
Like so, post finding out, it was a period of She's trying to mend that trust back and to kind of get back to where we once were. And I will say in the beginning, he was doing the work, he was going to therapy, he was ensuring that my move to San Diego went smoothly, and he was there for me and he was providing for me. And it was great. But I will be one hundred percent honest, I'm human, and there was still a small part of me that was holding back. I wanted yeah, yeah, yeah, And so I was hoping. I was like, hey, please just give him grace, Like I know I can get to where I was before. I just need time. And then also too, I was in this mental battle of moving to a new place. I want to say that I moved for myself and for the new experience, but a big part of my reasoning behind them was for him, of course, And so I was trying to cope with the fact that I was my I was away from my family, not knowing anyone, I was starting a completely new job. I was just simply trying to get my footing, plus battling with minding a relationship that was so broken. So I was just on the outside, I was like, Okay, I'm good, it's fine. But on the inside, I was really battling with a lot and I didn't think it was noticeable, but unfortunately it kind of took a toll on him in a sense of putting it. He felt as though he was putting in all of this work, but a lot of what I was doing wasn't like reciprocating all the luck that he was giving me.
If that makes sense.
Yeah, So about a month ago we had a big tough conversation, him kind of expressing to me, Hey, I'm doing all this, I want this to work, but I still feel like you're holding back. I don't know if this is going to work anymore. I think that was kind of my like punching the like, oh, my good call, Like if you want to be with him, you need to be with him. You need to really put things into gear and try to make this work and give him one hundred percent like he's been giving you. And so that was actually our one year or one year from meeting from Paradise with that week, and we had already planned like a little yeah, we had already planned like a little getaway to Malibu, and so I was like, even, I know you're pretty close off right now, but please just give it some time. Let's go to Malibu. Let's see if we can kind of rekindle what we've lost. We had a great time in Malibu. I honestly feel as though I felt like I did when I was first meeting him three weeks after that, like it was really really good. I was so excited, like I almost had that gidea feeling back. And another thing that I was mentally kind of going back and forth with is at some point I have to make this relationship public again. And what was hording me back from that? It was like, I know the public scrutiny that's going to come from doing that, and so before I do that, I need to know for a fact he's my man, and I'm sticking beside him.
You're saying this is it's either in or out because we can't go back and do this. Yeah, yeah, right right, Siam.
And so I what that three weeks I was thinking, sorry, no, no, it's it's just it's not because you're old.
No, I just mouth everyone is lead, I said. She called me, ma'am, I mouth that, and she said, exactly what all beautiful young and trust me, this girl is gorgeous by the way, I just say just I don't want to interrupt, but I just want to say, if this is what you look like grieving a relationship and in your healing error, I want to find a guide just to break up with him, because you are glowing, You are beautiful, You are no truly, you are gorgeous.
I do have a personal question, though sometimes you can, you can forgive somebody the trust, right was it in your head you were thinking I couldn't handle him making a fool out of me again and doing it a second time.
Are you talking in regards to like making the relationship public again, why I was kind of weary.
It's different dating in public. It's a whole different thing.
Certainly.
Well, I will say I do have a little bit of PTSD because the last time I went public with him, my world literally shattered in front of me. I definitely trust trusted him, and still trust him now, just because I saw the shift and energy that he was giving, and I honestly think his world was rocked so badly with everything that he would ever do that, not only to me, but to anyone else. So I so the three weeks went great. I was like, Okay, I'm about to go public with him. I need to prove to him, even though like I feel like I didn't it wasn't really my responsibility to prove to him. But I was like, I want to make this work. And so right it was fourth of July week, so this is really fresh, and I was so excited because Jess was going home back to Florida, and so I was going to be in San Diego basically by myself, and I was like, we're gonna have the best week together, like it's going to feel like normal. And I went to Austin Texas with some of the Bachelor girls. So I get back from Austin, Texas, and I could just feel like this like energy ship, this nership. He was acting very try, he just wasn't himself. So I get home. We have a big, long conversation and he chose to end thinks he said.
Okay, we're both sitting there with our mouths hanging open.
Yeah, no, I'm going to get a little emotional. I know it's okay.
So he just OK, it's okay, yeah, crime for you.
I just it's still so fresh, but he's yeah. I honestly, I honestly was so. Yes, I was a little shocked, just because we had this com We had the same conversation about him month ago, but then we were doing so good, and he kept emphasizing in the month that we were doing so well, Like, honestly, Kylie, like I see things going far with us. It started it feels like it did back then. So I was shocked. I yeah, it was definitely a tough conversation. I don't really want to speak for him for him, but basically what he had to say was some days he felt he would wake up and he would think he had such great hope for us, think that we could get to where we needed to be to have a friend future together. And then other days he woke up and he was just like, there's so much damage that I have done personally. I don't think our relationship will ever recover from that. And he said that I didn't deserve someone who was unsure about me, and that's why he was taking a step back. So I was screaming, crying, throwing up. I booked a flight to North Carolina to see my mom because when you're sad the person, and so a couple of days later, I am still in the healing process. But I will say there were days where I was like, I don't know how I'm going to survive this, Like this pain and his hurt is so heavy. But just looking back at those days and how I'm feeling currently, I'm like, I can do this.
Yes, that's what I want to hear.
You can. You can.
You can look at us. We just said in Unis and Kylie, you can and you will.
See time time heals, it does heal, and you've learned.
Have you learned? Let me ask you this, I can see the hurt as beautiful as you are. I can see you're hurting, and I'm so sorry you're hurting, and it's easy to say, it's easy to say, time will heal. I look at you and my daughter and her heart broken almost very identical, almost identical to you, So you know, it makes me almost start crying because I remember what she went through and she's happily, very nice. You know, But you you do you feel like you learned enough that you can move on in a way that made it all valuable. Because I hope that's the case.
Oh absolutely. I think there is a reason and a purpose for everything. Like I said, this was, I think I learned how to love. I've never really been with someone who I've given my everything to, and I was always scared because in my past, like situationships of things, I felt as though I was constantly looking for something or someone a little bit better. So I was like, am I always going to have that feeling? Like? Am I ever just not going to settle down like that scares me? And I said, I'm in time again with Avan. It was like justin Bieber, the love of my life, who I've loved since I was a child, if he came up to me and I was with Avan At that time, I probably would have been like, no, Justin Bieber, I don't want you. I'm with Evan Jels.
So so you felt real love. That's what it is.
Yes, you know. I hope that you settle on the I hope you think about all the positives, the you know, the family you have that loves you, the people who love you, the future you have. I know that all probably sounds trit right now.
It does, yeah, right when you're nothing.
So yeah, nothing makes it easier, I will say, but like my god, it well he's OK, Dad, so someone else. But I find a strength in knowing that just a couple of days ago, I was barely able to get out of bed and don't want to talk to anyone, like I just wanted to be by myself and my thoughts. And here I am today, like I put makeupond. I'm talking to you guys, so.
Like you are a beautiful young woman.
You are you, and I will tell you before because I had written all these questions. After listening to your podcast, I was enthralled by you and your story and you were so mature and I thought, oh my gosh, I can't wait to meet this beautiful young lady, and here you are. And I will say to you, based on what I have listened to and heard you say, it's probably not going to make you feel better. But I promise you, honey, you are going to be fine. You are going to be You are going to survive triumphantly. You're going to move forward in a life you will.
You go through anger and son, you know, and then you get stronger. We all have gone through it. That broken hearts, that is you know.
And I remember my first love to you, Susan, Yes, absolutely, and he Aiden was your first love, right, her first real love. That's your first real love.
Oh, it was my first real love.
Yeah. You will always carry a piece of them with you and that it's going to make you a richer, lovely human being. It's it's it's just you know, you take these pieces in your life and it fills your heart.
I hate expression, but what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. He's going to be a lot strongs.
At the end of the day. He has caused a lot of hurt in my life. I was even since like the beginning when we were in Paradise together and I so was like longing for him just to make that commitment to me and he couldn't, and just after that it's been a ripple effect. But I don't have any hate in my heart towards him. I know he's a good person and I know he wants to be a good person and it he'll be that that person for someone else, just not me. Uh, And I'm like, I wish him nothing but the best.
Do you truly?
It's a do you truly leave? I know? Today? Is it? Truly? The door is shut? Like there's no no I just I just think, I mean, never say never.
But at this point there has just almost like what you said, there has been so much damage that's done and we both in different portions of the relationship have like given it are all and unfortunately it wasn't reciprocated back. So I just I don't see a world where that happens. But like I said, everything happens for a reason. So later down the road we find ways back together, then great.
But I just think right now, if it was meant to be, some people say it'll be, but right now you do you?
Yes? So yeah, I am right, Like I'm a fish. I'm so excited because I feel like my san Diego experience so far has been consumed with like our relationship, but I want to genuinely enjoy San Diego and build a life for myself out there and my own life. Yeah, so I decided to kind of hit the ground running with that.
So I want to know, did your family like him?
My family was obsessed with him prior to everything happening, and then even after the fact, my mom especially obviously she was kind of over hurt because she saw how her eye was, but she was still his biggest cheerleader because she knew at the end of the day how happy he made me and how much I loved him. So although she didn't necessarily agree with all of the things that he had done, she was willing to kind of move past that if I was willing to move past it.
And how is she right this moment?
She is very sad for me. I feel so bad for her because I'm like, Mom, I've taken like ten years off of your life from all the things I've put you through. Because she felt like when I'm sad, she feels it so deeply and so yeah, and you being so far away from her, She's just like, I can't be there, so She's like, if you want to come home right this second, we'll figure out a way. Like, if you it's unbearable for you to live there, you can come back home. But I don't want. I want to do this for myself. I don't want to live into because and.
You know what that's going to stretch you and Aiden. I mean, San Diego's a big enough place. You don't need to run into each other.
Right exactly exactly?
Do you have plans? I know you want to make the most of it, and those are all great catch phrases. You know, I'm going to live my best life and all that. Are you actively going to make plans of things you can do to rebuild your life and tell me about it?
Taking time?
Yeah, so I think right now I'm taking it minute by minute, not even a day at a time. But I do you want to go back to school and get my masters? I plan to do that. I was gonna to become a nurse practitioner, so I'm jumping back into school to do that. I want to do midwife three school so where I can actually deliver the damies myself. So that's kind of take a toll on my social life. But I'm very excited to kind of build my career. I think at some point I'm going to have to put myself back out their relationship.
Wise, my next question, Yeah, what do you think that will be.
On your side?
Yeah?
Time on your side. Yeah.
I also know the self though, So it's kind of if you get married early, you have kids early, and that's just what you do. So I want that.
Now you're but now you're a surfer girl in San Diego and the rules are different. Yeah.
Now I'm on the West coast, so I can later.
But true, well, would you ever go back on Paradise?
Oh my god. Okay, so it's all the announcement that it's coming in twenty twenty five, and.
Now I thought it was going to be a golden one. Geez, you know.
Okay, you guys can join like you can.
Oh yeah, Susan, can you see this Kathy with a one piece? I'll be a you know, a one piece that has a skirt of taps so no one has to look at my thighs and this girl adorable bikini. Oh god, that would be a horror show.
I would.
I live despite everything, I lived my best life in Paradise, and if they asked me to go back tomorrow, I would pack my bags and I would take a flight to Mexico and live my best life once again. So I would definitely go back if asked.
Good. I think this girl, you may feel like you're living minute to minute, but you know what your answer just told me. You have a heart and you want to share it with someone. I like it. I like it. I like it. Okay, well she's going to paradise, Susan. You and I. You know, I'm going to be a chambermaid and you're going to be like a prep in the kitchen. And there it is. I said to ask, did you get a new hairstyle?
I did so I cut my hair. She is officially a new woman. Like six inches of baggage that was weighing down is no longer there. So I think this is just a fresh start to my new life.
I love it, absolutely amazing. At any man, any man is going to be begging to get your attention.
You are truly beautiful. All right, we do this thing where we get some questions and then we give some advice. Will you join us when you give your advice, because clearly you're a smart woman.
Ladies, and gentleman advice with Kyle.
There we go, All right, here we go. This first one is from Tracy. She's forty one from Seattle, Washington. Hello, Kathy and Susan and Kylie. I recently started dating a new guy and he's everything I've wanted for so long. The thing is, he's twenty nine and I'm forty one. We have been together for six months and have met each other's family and friends, and it's all gone better than all my past relationships have gone. But my concern is we might be on different timelines for having kids and getting married. He's a serious guy when it comes to dating and seems ready to find the one. I just would need to move very quickly if kids are in our future. I've always dreamed about being a mom, but I'm not sure if it's too early to bring that up since we've only been together six months. I also don't want to waste either of our time. Let me know if you have any thought or advice on how I should go about this. Thank you so much, Go Kylie? What do you think?
Juicy? So? My first thing is age is just a number. If he makes you happy and checks all of your boxes, why not, I will say, you don't like you said, you don't want to waste your time or his time. So it's important to have these conversations because they're big conversations and they could set the trajectory of your relationship. So kind of just rip the band aid off, girlfriend, ask him those questions, even though it's going to be a little bit nerve racking.
Months six months while you get to know Wody in six months. Yeah, why are your future pla right?
Yeah.
Susan, who who married my son and his wife back in March, officiated it. They talked about everything on the first date, first date.
First date.
Yeah, a lot.
That's a lot.
Six months and they're married and they should have that conversation.
She doesn't want to waste six more months with him, and that's not something he's wanting, so I.
Say, have it, yeah, because I guess if he doesn't want kids.
We're all in agreement. Big see Tracy communicate all right. The next one's from Nora. She's thirty two from Switzerland, San Diego. Do you know where that is?
I don't think I think she's dual. I think she lives in Switzerland part time in San Diego, part time.
Oh make sense?
Okay, High Golden Gals. My husband and I have been together since twenty seventeen and we got married in twenty nineteen. I am originally from Switzerland and we live in San Diego now, which is where we met. I was here for university when we first met got married. I thought I would be okay living in the US with him for the rest of my life, but now I'm feeling really called to move back to be close to my family. My sister just had her first baby, and I feel like I'm missing everything. I also can't imagine not having kids near them. My husband has always said he can't move overseas due to his work, and now we are in a real bind. We love each other very much, but we can't seem to come to an agreement on where to live. I know people say to talk about this before getting married, but I was younger then and have just changed my mind about being so close to my family. Do you have any advice on what I should do. No one has technically given an ultimatum, but if I move that will likely be the end of our marriage. Any thoughts are appreciated. Wow, that's hard, that's your person. I love with him.
Yeah, I know there is once.
In a while.
Yeah, yeah, but I know of her experiences and because even and I had this battle because I wanted to live in Charlotte and he never saw him lif moving from the West Coast, and so I just kept thinking that, Okay, we're going to be together. He's going to love me enough to want to do that, And so I did.
That's what you were thinking deep down?
Yeah, I was like, yeah, if he loves me enough, he would. And she already made that sacrifice to live in San Diego and moved to the States with him for a little bit. Why can't help me that?
Oh no, no, no, they met No, no, no, he's from city. They met there. She sorts and went to school there. Now, her daughters had, her sisters had a baby. She was she's it's kind of like.
You really can't go because of his career.
This this is the Kylie Show, except that she's married to this guy and he doesn't want to So you know what I say, I think I think they got married young and they didn't really think it through.
That's passed. Like, what does she do now? That's what she's asking, Well, Kylie, go home and if you love him enough, I stay right by his side, right.
Yeah. I don't have any advice for her because I was literally her and I am moved, and I moved, but I was struggling with the fact in a couple of years when I started a family with my own, I want to be near my family. I want my parents to help raising my kids.
So I think you guys are both living I think you're both living in a dream world. I think many marriages have broken up because the wife or you know, one or the other is like I love this, you know, like you just said, Kylie, you've lived in San Diego for a time, but you want to be back in Charlotte. And there's nothing wrong with that. I just don't think she gave it enough. Thought she was young, she was nineteen. Uh, she's now thirty two. She got married very young, and people change. I don't know.
I was away with Dickie when he was playing ball. We had our children in Texas.
And you moved back to Hilly and you moved and she got divorced three years later. Though, Well she's thirty two. She met this guy when she was nineteen, and now they're divorced. You know, I don't know. You know what my husband and I did, Kylie. We didn't live in We didn't live in either place. My husband was from New York State. I was from Massachusetts. He was a military officer initially, so we moved around and that's how we got to Texas. He went to grad school in Boston, and we picked a place that neither of us had ever lived. And can I tell you it was fair? But I missed so much of my family. I missed out on so many things I did.
But life, that's a choice.
Yeah, and I made that choice. But I'm just saying, you missed. You know, you can't have it all.
Do you regret it?
No? No, I don't. But I'm being honest. It's you know, we're not living in you know, Disneyland here. I did. I did miss him. I mean I did miss my Palma one.
I don't wish.
I don't know what.
Look at you, Kylie. You made that move mostly for him, because of him. But now you're standing on your own two feet. You're getting more of your career off the ground. Yes, to be a nurse practitioner, go to school, figure out out.
Yeah, I want you because you know Susan and I are the czars here. We want you to focus on building. You're already beautiful. You don't have to work on that. You're beautiful inside and out. Build your life, go to school, live your life. I'm getting goosebumps because I know what your future is. I know what your future is, so it's going to be amazing. And I want you to come back when Susan and I are in wheelchairs still doing this podcast and tell us I want you to name your first child Kathy and your second one Susan.
You guys are going to be annoy the wedding, so I don't know do the wedding.
I don't appreciate the wedding.
Is officiating and Kathy, you're going to be one of our dreds.
Okay, So I have one more question for you.
Is there anything that you'd like to say from here to bachclination before we go? Yes?
I know, yeah, So first off, I just want to think bacheloration because they have stuck by my side through everything and they've kind of given me that tough advice that I needed to hear. Even though sometimes I don't necessarily want to hear it, I know I can sometimes be annoying on television with all of the tears and the back and forth, but they've stuck beside me, and for that I'm forever grateful. I hope this is not the last of what you see of me Vachlination, and I hope that one day good to see that happy, ever love story that I think I deserve, You do deserve.
Can I just say you deserve happiness, you deserve love. On the Golden Bachelor, that was the whole thing. Everyone deserves love, do you hear me? Kylie? Everyone deserves love and to be loved. So we're rooting for you, and unfortunately that's gonna do it for this episode. Now.
I love welcome with you, We.
Love talking to you, but that does it for this episode of Bachelor, Happy Hours, Golden Hour, and Kylie, really thank you so much. You gave great advice, and really thank you for sharing your story and letting being so truthful and honest. It's just you're a lovely, lovely person.
We love getting the chat with you, and you know what, we're very proud of you. Thank you.
I'm I'm yourself some of you, and thank you for all of the advice as well.
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