In a very special episode of Bachelor Happy Hour, Serena and Joe chat with “Bachelor In Paradise” castmates Abigail Heringer and Noah Erb all about their recent engagement! Abigail and Noah share exclusive details about how Abigail's stunning ring came to be, what it was like when Noah asked Abigail's parents for permission and who from Bachelor Nation was paramount in executing their perfect beachside proposal.
Plus, what is next for the happy couple as they move to Tulsa, Oklahoma? And are they already talking about babies?!
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What's up everyone? Welcome back to another exclusive episode of Bachelor Happy Hour. We are graced with none other than the very special Noah and Abigail or Abigail and Noah, the newly engaged couple from Bachelor Paradise Season seven.
Our season, Serena, Yeah, correct, our season, a very successful season, a lot of engagements, a lot of couples, a lot of babies, a lot of fur babies coming out of that season. And we are so happy to have you guys here, and we are so excited for you guys.
Yes, congratulate to hear.
Yeah, see you guys in a while.
Yeah, no, we so you know, full transparency. Serena and I used to talk about how we just didn't think you guys were gonna make it, and then.
All of a sudden, well, I'm glad to be able to do an interview with you because you clearly out of your league league I stumbled on my league.
So what are we doing here?
You know, two very lucky men on this podcast.
Lucky man.
Anyways, we overcame the odds. We're super excited, all right.
So we I knew a little that a proposal was in the works because when I saw Abigail in Cabo. There was a little chitter chatter that something may be coming, but we didn't know when. And obviously we have no behind the scenes info on how this all came to be. So let's just start from the beginning. Noah, when did you know you were going to propose to Abigail?
Yeah?
I mean probably after we've been dating for I don't remember when. It was like a year and we sat there and stared at each other in my bed and said I love you. I was like, okay, all right, this isn't just like a show love. I'm going to figure out how to propose. At some point took a.
Whole was was it you guys stared at each other. Was it just like I love you, I love you? Or do you guys just keep saying it?
Just said it like fifty times?
Yeah, yeah, just over and over.
We try to against ourselves that we loved each other. We both paused, we looked at each other and she said it.
I said it. We'd already said it a million times, but it kind of clicked, you know.
I don't even remember that, but that's when I was like, all right, I'm going to marry this girl. But then obviously we went out to California. I was doing travel nursing, got the ring, worked with KSAR. They were amazing, and then didn't tell my parents until probably a week before.
We're from the Midwest, so I gotta, like, you know, call my parents, call her parents.
Okay, wait, but how what was that time period from the week before to when you got the ring?
Oh? Yeah, so we're gonna be out in San Diego till September.
Abbey got a house, We're going to go back.
I'm thinking I got time, you know, I got a month, month and a half to figure this out.
I'm chilling. Then she got a dog. Yeah, got a dog.
And then she was like, I want to leave like in maybe two weeks, week and half. I was like what, So I already had the ring.
I've been hiding the ring.
So then it was like, all right, game time, how do I pull this off? So it was literally like a two day span of got a house on the in La Hooya facing the beach, convinced her I was going to play pickleball.
She really had no idea.
We just said we're going to meet for dinner like a send off, have some wine, playing monopoly, deal cute pictures. San Diego was great, you know, because we're leaving. So she showed up and we had people hiding in all the rooms bonge of our friends. So she's like trying to explore this house. And like I walked around the corner and my twin was there. He was like So then it was like, all right, we're just doing it, you know. So I had I went to Trader Joe's and bought a million flowers, sprinkling them all over the rooftop. Some candles didn't get to do the full presentation because they showed up thirty minutes early, so we just kind of just threw the flowers at somebody else's roof. Start walking up the stairs and she's like drinking her Celsius energy, drinking the camera, like looking around like, oh.
This is so cool, this roof is cool. I'll not to cut you off.
No, we were having wine on the roof.
Was Abigail you so you had at this point you have zero idea.
Zero idea?
Yeah, well yeah, it sounds like you tried to ruin this proposal unknowingly every time.
I knew ruin it the whole time, and I was thinking, I want to propose.
I always said I want to propose to her before she moved to Oklahoma, you know, like my state. We want to get a life together.
So that was like my timeline in my head, and it just got pushed forward forward forward to where it was like, all right, we're just going to do it. So I think she thought I was already either going to do it and I just maybe we're just going to be dating for six years that you you know.
But I mean we only.
Had two days left in col at that point, and I was like, there's no way he can put it together that quickly, Like we have the dog moving, we're.
To call me the minute man, you know what I'm talking about.
So I closed the.
Chapter, probably for a different reason.
It's not gonna happen in California, So I was like, Okay, probably gonna happen in Alcoholma. I had an idea it would happen this year. I just didn't know when because you never talked about it. So I didn't have any idea, and then man, it happened.
Well, I was gonna worst case scenario we'd do in Oklahoma. I round up all the cows, were surrounded by nature, you know, good old fashioned. So it was a quick timeline and I grabbed everything out of her hand like kind of aggressively because we're walking up the steps and don't want her to just be sitting there with like a Celsius in this camera. Yeah, And then we kept walking up and all you could see was one of the photographer's head just like floating, and she was like, it's someone up there, and then her face was dropped and there's like flowers everywhere, super pretty, like twenty minutes before the sun broke through the clouds because it was like rainy all day and like lit up.
The sky nuts so pretty.
I saw it.
I thought it would be to be honest, I was like, wow, this real, Wow, this is insane.
Against all odds the sky.
Do you want to say yes to yourself?
At this point, I literally was like, who set this up?
This is so so beautiful.
At what point did you, like clue and you were about to get engaged? Because I saw a video I don't know where it was, but it was like a video of your proposal that was like taken did you and you were already crying, like walking up the stairs at that point. When were you like, oh shit, he's gonna propose to me right now.
It was when the videographers had popped around. So I'm you have to like go around the corner. It's like a site entrance, and then there's like fifteen stairs up to the roof right there if you can't see the top of the roof when you first walk out. And so I thought we were going to the gonna have someone. They walked to dinner and he like grabbed my camera and my drink had on my hand and like a.
Little aggressive, I know, but well, so we.
Had to take our shoes off before we went into the house. Thomas was like, hey, do you mind taking your shoes off? So I thought maybe the guy was like really stingy about what you could have on the roof, like maybe no drink, I don't know, no drinks whatever. And I was like, oh sorry, and he like kind of smiled and like started walking me up. I was like, that's kind of weird. And then I saw the big videographer's hippop out. I saw like the first roset pedal it like clipped. I was like, okay, it's happening right now, and I started balling. I did not think I was gonna cry bye, sorry, like crying.
Ugly crying the whole time.
I was like, I feel like now like ugly crying, but cover as much as I can.
No, well, okay, because I know felt like for for myself. Like when I got and I actually got down on one knee, like the nerves really kicked in once. Once you got down on one knee, How were you nervous? Like what was going through your mind?
Joke? Don't compare us, We're not the same.
You had not listen.
I'm just gonna well that's fair.
I believe. I believe was he Were you nervous?
Yes?
Or no?
No? I was definitely a little nervous because I was like, I got one shot at this, and I'm kind of a shoot from the hip kind of guy.
So I'll just tell you.
You reminded us that about one hundred and fifty times in Paradise. God.
Yeah, I don't. I know, I didn't make it on the show once of my line. Yeah no, So once I was like, I just got to be as natural as I can, Like in my head, we've already done this, right, I already feel like we're already there.
So now I just got to not look like an idiot because I'm not going to be like, can we run that back? So I paused. We paused for like thirty seconds. I said, I may be dumb, but I ain't stupid. That line I was like, yeah, and I said, the stupidest thing for me to do would not marry you.
Okay, I like the ring, so I.
Made it like I can't mess that up because that's just I just got to get it done with. I just got to say something hopefully makes sense, and then you know, then we're good.
I was nervous. I really didn't feel it.
I didn't feel any different until maybe it was the Taylor Swift concert, which we'll get into. But uh, we got back from Taylor Swift last night and I told every single person very confidently, I feel no different being an engaged man verse dating. We're already there, we're already comfortable. Then I got home last night, I was like, I'm engaged.
I know you're already you already want to.
Wear yeah yeah, and I'm like, let's get married. So I definitely feel different. I was a little bit nervous, but no, not like you. I wasn't trembling.
Well, I mean, you had a little more time.
I was First of all, I was sweating because it was hot out.
And yeah, you hate is that what you were trembling?
You had?
Yeah, and I was nervous. You know, this was the cameras.
And Joe's racing. Joe's racing the clock. I'm not racing the clock. Joe's coming on. Dang there fifty.
Well, but I mean, in honestly, I feel like in a situation like yours, I would be probably just as nervous because there is still like a lot of build up. Your single handed leep. You're basically setting it up, and then like Abigail, could you know, like she almost screwed it up. She's shrinking her celsia, she's walking around trying to figure out what's going on. So I think in your situation, I probably would be a nervous wreck. And I am someone that's probably gets more nervous in front of my friends and family just because I feel more embarrassed.
We made sure they were downstairs. We didn't let them come up during my speech.
Oh you didn't let up.
So everyone stormed up after okay, stormed up with champagne and stuff.
Yeah, So there was that.
Honestly, to me, I kind of knew regardless if I fumbled, Like I feel like she would expect me to fumble the bag. She's gonna say yes either way. So that's like, Okay, you can't really mess up. Well, should be true, but she goes, she.
Goes, that's not true. If you messed up, I might have.
Said that, okay, no.
But yeah, there was all that pressure, and it was like, I want to just make this memorable for her and me, and it's natural. We have fun and now we go to the next stage. You know, we're moving back to Oklahoma, so it's like this will be the closing journey.
And it worked out, worked out way better than I thought.
But it was it was really romantic, like way to go, Noah, Like it was beautiful, very romantic. The ring, Abby, did you know what ring he was going to get you? Did you pick it out?
So we actually looked at Range together. So we had a lot of talks about this. So that's why I said, like, I kind of knew it was going to happen this year because obviously we were like are we ready to be engaged?
So forth and then Ranged.
He came to me and asked, because I honestly had no idea like what I wanted, and he was like, well, you're the one that has to wear it, so I don't want to get something that you don't like and whatnot. So we actually like designed it to go. But then he was like, Okay, that's it. That's all you know. And then he like closed the door and he was like you don't get to know anything else from here on ow but just a few months ago.
Yeah, I don't know how you guys did it.
At first, I was like, there was this shroud of secrecy, and I'm like, she can't know anything. And then I'll give her these little teasers like, oh, look at that ring, or I'd like talk trash and a girl's ring, like on Instagram, like this is the ugliest thing I've ever seen, to see if she likes it or not. And then I'm like, this is dumb. I need to just include her. I don't know why I have to keep this whole thing a secret. Let's let her pick out three rings that she kind of likes, because she told me eighty five rings that she doesn't like.
I'm like, I'm we're not gonna get anywhere.
I was always saying what he did it like, yeah, this is what I.
Liked, so I just included her in it.
And then like a couple of months ago, she asked, oh, remember we talked to the designer, Like did you ever talk to him?
And I was like no, it just kind of like fell off, like I don't know.
Just like forgot about that.
No, I'll reach out.
I was like, ill, Yeah, I mean I'll definitely try to reach out to him again, but it just kind of like, I don't know, but I did half the ring already in the closet.
See trying to trying to like, you know, do the fake out or you know, throw throw her off. Reminds me I have a fear of doing that because of the Friend's episode when Chandler tried to throw off and then goes back to and then Monica goes back to her her ex boyfriend. Yeah, I'd be like, oh fuck.
And then I feel like anytime you try to like keep a surprise for me, like it's like I made a you'll all of a sudden be like, okay, so Friday night, I made us like a dinner reservation, like I'll get like a little bit I'm like, oh, no way. But I'm not telling you where we're going, and the next day you'll be like, do you want to know where we're going for dinner on Friday? Like it's hard to keep secrets from like your significant other, and especially secrets that it's like it greatly affects her, like what ring you pig? But I feel like the actual proposal.
The weekend that we went to the horse racing because there was like a last minute brand new and Laurie was the wine telling me about it, and I was like, this seems really last minute. I'm not like getting a ton of information. It's like a little staycation in del mar So I almost thought it would happen that weekend.
It didn't, so then it threw me off.
But then the reason I didn't think it was happening this time was like, well, you just weren't doing anything so speak.
I want to talk about this. By the way, I need to stand up for myself.
But I was packing, well, I was packing all week like strussed, like trying to pack up the house. And now it's just on the couch, on his laptop and on his phone, and I'm like, do you want to help your stuff?
I'm packing up?
But He's like, yeah, I'm busy, I'll be there in a second. And two hours later he's still on his laptop and I'm just like, are you watching tiktoks right now?
Like what are you doing? Can you come help? And then I found out later he was coornating everything.
Well, yeah, she thought it would happen at the race horses, I feel like and it never crossed my mind. I was hot tubbing, I served in the morning, got to go touch the horses. Then when I was like, all right, I'm going to do it, I already call the parents. I gave him a date, so I have to yeah, on that date regardless, I can't call him be like my bad.
And how were How were Abigail's parents? They were happy?
Oh yeah, no, her parents They're amazing. They were like I actually facetimed them. I texted and said, hey, I got to talk to you about Tulsa because they're going to come visit. Yeah, And I just group facetimed them both because I'm like, I don't know, do I call mom or dad? This will be easy just group FaceTime. And it was like, hey, I'm not talking about Tulsa.
I want to marry your daughter, and they were like yes, and I'm okay, that's all I need to know. Yes, So it was good.
But then yeah, this last week, she's like having second doubt.
She's like this dude, the bum. He's not helping me.
I'm like being all mysterious and like disappearing and like.
You, Yeah, I feel like I feel like you still. I feel like I feel like you still could help. But you knew that you would be able to use this as an excuse, so you kind of took a step back. So I think Abigail should still be a little pet's chest, not checkers buddy.
It was like, I'm going to use this proposal to get out of all of my responsibilities with this move, and she's going to be so happy and the ring is so beautiful that what you gonna say when it worked?
But then after the fact, I'm like so glad it's all over. I'm like, people put so much like pressure on that.
Yeah, and it's it's truly just a few moments and now it's like all right, Like you're such a relief.
I don't know.
Yeah, now you get to enjoy it, Like the planning is the stressful part. Now you're engaged just like the fun part.
Yeah, Abigail, how do you feel about Noah explaining your engagement as just like a few moments.
We'll talk later.
One could argue life to be described by just a few simple moments too.
Wow, you're poking over there, So let's talk about real quick. Let's talk about the So it happens, like, I guess who's there? Like you said you mentioned Thomas, So I'm assuming Becka and Thomas are there, Like, who's with you? Guys? What are you doing? You're just getting drunk having a good time? What's going on? Yeah?
And I saw you posted like thanking Beca and Thomas for like all their help, Like what kind of role did everyone play, including them, and like setting up the engagement?
They were paramounts in it for at least me because Thomas I was like, hey, I need to get a hat, Like in my head, I always wanted to propose on the beach, like I want a lot of people around, So I just got to try to find a house.
And Thomas knows so many people in San Diego, it's crazy.
And Becca was like beca distract her and then make sure and Becca had her mom in town, she's super pregnant, and we're like distractor and make sure she wears like neutral colors. She's like, okay, great, I'll just tell her she's ugly when I walk them out. But they coordinated everything, and then it was pretty much all of our you know, we've been in Huntington, La San Diego the last couple of years, just some of our closer friends out here. Yeah, like ten people and yeah, they all stormed. We drank, watched the sunset, smoked some cigars, chilled, and then went to some random he was there.
No, it was great.
It was great, and it carried on because there was a small window that I got an opportunity to go to Taylor Swift and we were supposed to leave today. We're supposed to drive across the country today, and we were shipping her car and there's all these things, and I was like, I got to make that happen, Like that would be insane.
You know.
Her last concert followed up following up the engagement, so so fine ended up picking it up for us, and she had no idea until the morning she thought we were going to pack up and leave.
I was like, hunt over so tired.
I was like Okay, I's why I go through all the pictures and then he was like surprised We're going to Tailor Swift tonight and I was like, wait, I thought we were driving across the country today.
Yeah.
Wow, is Noah the best? The best guy ever? We'll tell you, like the past three days, this guy.
Is at Taylor Swift tickets.
I mean, I'm not gonna lie.
I hate to set the standard the way I did it. I really do because I don't think I can maintain this. But the standard set.
So it's pretty good. Engage with one day, surprise Taylor Swift, the decks, it's pretty this is pretty good.
This is the first night we actually got more than three hours of sleep. And now we get to pack, so we're not doing much, but where everything's like calm. I haven't even looked at texts from people, Like it's just been go, go go Taylor Swift. I understand why she has a cult following. I'm the newest member. It was insane. Yeah, and it's just been nuts. Like the last yeah, two days have been absolutely nuts. And now it's like all right, I like process.
I still feel like I'm engaged. I just need to I'll like, look at my hand. I'm like, oh, there's a rock on it.
She's with their ring. Do you sleep with your ring?
I don't sleep with any jewelry on, Like I take jewelry off. But some girls do sleep in their joey, But you don't sleep in any jewelry typically.
Do you like my necklaces? I do my earrings jone. The first time I slept with it on because I did not want to take it.
Off, and so I slept with mine on. I think the first like five nights yecause then they took it away or three nights whatever, because then they take it away from us in paradise. But then once I got it back, I don't sleep with it on.
I was just more worried, like I don't know, just like it is it gonna bend? I don't know.
This is cheap ass ring, like it's not going to bed.
Do you think of hoops? I heard holed last week?
So what are you guys? What are you guys thinking about as far as wedding, because you mentioned you're ready to get married. How long you think you're going to take any idea?
I am trying not to think about it the first week and stressed thinking about it.
I mean, we haven't really talked about it a whole lot, but.
I've decided based off the last twelve hours that I just want to do a closed wedding with like my family, not even any groomsmen, and just have a huge reception.
Nice. I think that that's we talked about my decision as of the last twelve hours.
So right, Abigail is just being informed of this right now. So Abigail has already planned your wedding as well.
What about what about.
You know you're more than welcome through Well, see.
What would you say? Would you say? I think it was trash talk over there, Abigail.
I just he wants to take the rains we're planning. We'll see how far we get with that. But you're more than wow.
Work this weekend shot.
Just say the guy plans a beautiful engagement Taylor Swift tickets and.
She's unrealistic standard for men.
Still, Yeah, she's still.
Just a matter if you could do it twice, Noah, Avocail doesn't know about it.
I don't need to do it twice. It worked once.
That is true.
The wedding is.
I don't want to do a super long engagement because I am gonna, like I just want to get be done with it, but I don't want to just rush through.
So I bet you guys get married next year, like around this time.
Joe, that's that we break up.
So I'm actually curious, go and read it. Yeah, just like this is a Joe Reddick collab right here there. Break it up for sure.
I know how just talks trash to me? What's that?
It's me and those those chat rooms? What about? Okay? So whatever, I know, And it makes sense that you really haven't thought about the wedding.
We okay, wait, but you you guys have like a like Abigail, you have like a vision of what kind of wedding you want.
Yeah, so definitely going with what Noahs said.
Definitely keeping it smaller, like on the smaller side, like under one hundred people, Like we only have ten people at our engagement night, and it just felt like so much to try to talk to everybody and like sharing that ascitement and it was only ten people, so I couldn't imagine trying to.
Do it like a three hundred person wedding.
And then also just like we're working on a house too, so just that project with planning. I'm just like, Okay, well I don't have it.
I don't know.
It's just it's a lot of money and what not for two milli bit projects in.
One year or so.
Joe, I'm still trying to recover from physically paying myself at Taylor.
Swift just got engaged.
We're driving across the country at midnight tonight and turning into a full chip and Joeanna games renow.
Do you think you're I'm not thinking about the wedding.
Do you think you're going to pee your self? Driving to Oklahoma?
You're talking to an ICU nurse that's got just folies all over the house. I'm slinging in ivy and throwing a catherin no twenty hours maybe.
Wait, okay, so the house. So you guys bought a house in Tulsa and now you're gonna and the goal is to fix it up? Is that what you're doing?
So Abby got a house in Tulsa, and you also have property. I've got a few properties in Tulsa, and I used to do Reno's, so I'm gonna try to pick that back up.
I enjoy it.
And yeah, so we're gonna be doing that, but the main focus is her house, making it all nice.
Has being him and Becca's house. Any do you any tips from them on how that's been going.
Maybe she was like, don't let him start a view projects until he finished shows long because they have a bunch of like unfinished projects in the house.
I'm like, oh yeah, talk and started touching that. I can tell.
Okay, now he's working on this, So we're going to try to go one room time.
Yeah.
Abby's just now realizing this as we're trying to pack.
I'm like a squirrel.
So we're going to go alls, have things laid out, and very systematically try to do it because yeah, when we go back, I'm not going.
To be doing a whole lot of nursing.
It's going to pretty much main focus be different house renovations. Squirrel, different house renovations, and obviously trying to move into that space.
I feel like Abigail is going to go grocery shopping and come home and no one's just going to have like ripped in the dry wall, like walls knocked down, like floorboards ripped up like in every room and like what's going on? You're like, oh, hey, like just starting the redouse.
Well, realistically, like timeline, what do you think because I'm just curious, like, how long do you think you're going to be able to get this done in the house?
Yeah, work wise, I think we could finish it a few months.
Is more. We have no pieces of furniture to our name.
We have no like silverware, towels, nothing, so we're just like starting from square one.
So I think just like ice.
Actually yeah, yeah.
It will be definitely very much our home, but I think we're gonna move in right away when we get to Oklahoma. We're not doing any super major meno stuff, but in terms of like being finally done and feeling like a home, I'm hoping a year.
For it to be ready.
Joe.
Yeah, like guest room setup as well.
I think I think I think six months of dedication, but I think the first three months we'll have it, uh, I mean to good standards, and then it's just like finishing touches, you're always adding stuff.
Are you any like outside contractors or are you just like I'm I'm gonn Abigail, I'm Noah, we could do this ourselves. I was like a squirrel.
I guess I did grow up doing it. And yeah, that whole life. I hated it.
Now it's like, I actually do know what I'm doing, and I've done it a few times already, so I'll do it a lot. But also my families from there, we're like Yellowstone out there.
Oh my god, don't compare yourself to Yellows.
I mean, I would love to I would love I would love to come. That's what one of the places I've never been to in the United States is, I've never been to Oklahoma.
Yeah, you and everybody else, do.
You think you'll get married in Oklahoma or do you not know?
I think we're leaning towards it because I also think it would be really fun because not a lot of our friends, like you guys, have never been to Oklahoma. So I feel like when we talk about Oklahoma, I think a lot of people think like we're riding in a wagon, or we're living on a farm or whatnot. So I think it would be really fun to celebrate in Oklahoma.
Because that's where we're laying down roots.
But then also get all our friends there and kind of have them see what our life is like, maybe convince some people to move to Alklahoma.
But kind of just being a picture, this is our life.
Do you want to move to Oklahoma?
No, you're good for investment anybody, yes, would consider an investment property out there?
No, it is. It is a great place. It's the people are super nice, chill. It's a great place to settle down.
And if you wanted to have a family, like your money goes a lot further there.
Oh yeah, And so you can get bougie.
Lifestyle as actually for pretty cheap, can be comfortable, or you can get some land if you want, and you know, do all that.
A few reasons I say automatic, No is really just one because we've never been there, so like I would be like, I don't know what to me.
I never thought I was going to move to Alcoholma.
It's very Canadian.
And two we are at the time in our lives we are right now, we are very much city people. Whereas like, like the same way, you could never envision yourself living in New York, Noah, Like, I don't know if I could ever envision myself living somewhere that was not near a major city, but who knows, who knows?
Differ, Noah's like a squirrel. I'm like a chameleon.
I feel like, well, listen. It's like a different kind of grind and lifestyle. Joe likes to go try out his different drinks and foods and take little thirst traps and stuff like that.
Around the city. Honestly, don't stop. They're getting better, thank you. It's just different.
It's just that's not really what we want right now. But it's fun and it's cool. But I'm I'm I don't know, I'm not the moon are set down, Yeah, I just want to settle down in a different.
Way, will you miss?
Uh?
San diego?
Yeah, dude, looking at my hair?
Oh my god, when are you going to cut it? When are you gonna cut your hair?
I was gonna cut it.
I was gonna surprise Abby and have it cut for the proposal.
Yeah, just make her black out.
Yeah, but that obviously didn't happen.
What he's doing with that, dude.
After looking at some older photos like that transition face from like the shorter the longer hair, I was like, Okay, maybe let's just keep it the longer.
I I was gonna get it cut.
I had it set up and everything, and I got like three compliments in the same day because I was wearing this certain kind of bun, I guess, and I was like, I can't.
I can't do it. So I'm just like.
The people like Noah with the long hair. You got to give the people that they want here. I mean, you know what, Abigail, I'm convinced though, you're just like used to it, and also like you have spent so much time with.
Him now and it looks good.
I will never I will not pipe down.
He likes how it looks Okay, just leave it at that. Trying to convince her that she doesn't.
I'm not saying she just like it. I'm just saying like, I feel like you've had it for so long, and she spends so much time with you in love with the long hair, like she just she's attached to it. But I'm not saying you don't look good. I'm just saying, like, I think she's just like grown to love this long hair.
Listen, I'm a realistic man. I know it's overdue. It's been overdue for a while. Okay, haven't got around.
Very similar hair it though, like we actually have like the same color.
You know, what's your dog?
Yeah?
I just.
I was like, you look like Maki.
You are an athletic Abigail, do you have a strong opinion on if Noah, like, do you want traditional tuxedo? Or you're gonna let Noah do his own thing fashion fun?
What does do my own thing means?
Well, it's going to be it's whatever. Are you a traditional tuxedo guy? When you guys get married, do you see yourself wearing a traditional talks?
So I think we're too casual for like a really formal wedding.
I just don't think that's like us.
But he definitely needs to talk to me about what he's going to be wearing. We're not going to do like yepping way out.
There to be simple, classy elegance.
Yeah.
Nothing, You're not going to see me in a bow tie.
No I wanted to wear. So I've kind of done my own thing with he's for the wedding. But Serena was really strongly against me wearing a white bow tie, and I really wanted to wear.
White color though, what's your what are the rest of the colors?
Well, for for the actual wedding.
If it's only a white bow tie and nothing.
Else, that's all. That's really all I wanted to do.
Yeah, but you're I mean, you look good in a bow tie kind of it's it's me Joe, you know, like Italian like you look it.
Was a terrible, terrible impression. But yeah, like I want to go I really want to go that traditional Like James Bond Black talks with.
A black bow tie and he tried to switch to a white bow tie and I agreed with, Yeah.
That was a white bow tie. Huh.
That look goofy.
That was the only thing stance on that black.
Is just so sleek, especially on you have black hair. Just do the whole thing.
Thank you.
How about kids?
Should you announce it? You guys know your produce.
No, that'd be great, that'd be great if you actually could give us a decision right now.
I don't want to have kids, I think. I mean we've talked about it. I don't want to have kids until later.
Like I don't know, I'm twenty eight, early thirty.
Yeah, I mean have no say have you Have you talked about how many kids you want?
So I always said I want to see how the first childbirth goes, Like that's the part that scares me the most, Like if I have a really.
Traumatic childbirth, we'll talk again after that.
But I think right now, we're thinking between two and four, and you would love twins.
Yeah, I come from eleven kids, so I think nothing's sort of like fifteen continue to continue the tradition. No, I think yeah, five is a max. I would love twins and like, you know, a little princess daughter.
But don't twins usually skip a generation, so you're not Wouldn't it be your kids that are likely to have twins because you're a twin know what?
Okayamous science, I'm just trying to manage expectations here, but we like, my mom's brothers are twins and she still had twins. But she also had eleven kids. There's a lot of twins in her family line, and by the time we have kids, we'll probably just be able to click like a couple. Buttons and I have twins, so I won't be mad if I don't have twins.
That's just that would be nice.
My dad is a My dad's a triplet and has twin sisters, so yeah, there's.
A chance, good chance we're getting twins.
Okay, Well, this was lovely catching up. We're gonna let you guys go because we've taken up a lot of your time and you have to drive twenty four hours to twenty two hours, pack, do your whole thing, Abigail, I really do. I wish you the best.
Good luck on that drive.
But no, guys, honestly, we're we're so happy for you. We can't wait to see you at our wedding.
And yeah, you could take notes on everything that you love and everything you despise at our wedding and rug.
Me won't won't be hard watching.
Joe at least try to hide the no pad no up.
Yeah, we we love you, guys. Excited for the wedding. We're hoping, you know, we go make Tulsa home base and then you know, if we want to come out to California for a month or Chicago.
For a couple of weeks, we can tour New York. I'm saying, we can travel around.
We're just gonna go make a home base and then kind of also travel around and have fun.
Nice Well yeah you got MOCKI but no kids, so you can do that and that's I feel like the fun of it all. And it's going to be I'm excited to see all the rennos, the new Chip and Joanna Gain of Bachelor Nation come to life.
I am excited too, and I'm excited for however many other dogs advocates.
But yeah, and you probably won't know in advance. Didn't you decide, like that day you went and got a.
Filled we're getting a dog, I say, twenty four hours later.
Wow, you had a big few weeks. You got a house, you got a dog. Yeah, you got engaged, and now you're moving. That's crazy.
If you guys want to do something, if you guys want to do something for I keep saying this, I really want to do something for New Year's I want to go.
I know we're going to go to Japan with them.
Maybe let's really want to Okay, we'll talk off off I mean the the Mexico trip.
I'm not gonna lie. I thought you'd be better. I thought you'd be more fun. I thought you'd be I feel.
The same way about it. I feel the same way about you.
I'm willing to get another shot at least your at least your cool.
I actually thought we had a great time, though I was with the territory.
Well that's all.
We'll let you guys figure out.
You know what this podcast is done. You know it's been on a high note.
Let's end it now, all right.
Noah and Abagail, thank you so much into our listeners. Uh, we love you guys. Thank you for listening to these exclusive interviews and episodes. I hope you guys really like them.
Yeah.
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