Today on “Bachelor Happy Hour,” Joe and Serena are catching up with beloved Bachelor Nation couple Abigail and Noah! We kick off the episode with Abigail and Noah’s recent ventures into home renovation and how fruitful this path has been for them.
Then, with a date officially announced, the two are giving us all the deets on their wedding-to-be. Plus, we get more insight into their lives in Tulsa, Oklahoma, and how they’ve been growing together as a couple.
Tune in now to hear all this and more, and be sure to follow so you never miss an episode!
Hey, everyone, welcome back to Bachler Happy Hour. I'm Joe and I'm Serena, and we are here with Noah and Abigail from Bachelor in Paradise season What season were we guys? Anyways? And then seven okay, and then Noah was Bachelorette season I don't know, and Abigail was Bachelor Season twenty five. Wow, Hi, guys, welcome, welcome back, welcome back.
Hright, we missed you, guys, thanks for having us on the pot.
Of course, no probably missed you.
Abigail, how's it going.
It's going going well.
Excited to chick chat your your backdrop? No, she's not. There was there was, there was. There was zero enthusiasm in that.
But I think you start over. Yours was a terrible interest.
No, we are not. We are not starting over. But by the way, your backdrop looks wonderful. I mean, I watch all your guys Instagram reels and you're you're doing quite quite the job over there in Tulsa.
Thank you, Joseph.
I truly had no idea we would be Bob the Builder when we came back, but we're full embracing it and we love it.
I do want to say when you guys said that you were going to Tulsa and Abby, I'll show me the house and was like, Noah's going to fix it up.
I doubted you one hundred percent.
Listen, we respect each other enough that all if you say you doubted me, that's fine. I talked Josh and Joel, I'll be open about it.
Same with you.
I wasn't sure I could pull it off either. Now, okay, we got something around, but.
I wasn't sure, but I was.
I'm actually very impressed. I'm very impressed by both of your skills. You really you have what it takes to be an HGTV show, Like truly you've You've really flipped this house.
Well, it's just weird from being fake busy as an influencer to work in ten hour days manual labor and it actually looking good.
So we we love it.
We're Abby's really good at it, I'm getting really good at it, and now it's like, let's just stick with it. But I'm truly surprised it turned out so well myself, So don't feel.
Bad, Serena. Serena did doubt doubt you. But the truth is I like Abigail much more than I like, Noah, but I did not actually doubt you. I was when when Serena said, I was like, no he, I think he's gonna I think he's gonna do this. I didn't do it, didn't do it very well.
Well, you know, we figure it out eventually. I'm just glad that we didn't have too many, too many issues. We don't share the problems that we have, but there were a lot.
Well that's that's why you guys are That's why you guys are here on happy hour. But yeah, Noah, you guys you're both doing looks to be an incredible job. I do want to ask before you started your own home renal what we're like. What were the pros and what were the cons?
Do you want to start?
Okay, the pros were It's really fun to be able to do a project like us too, from start to finish. I feel like it makes us appreciate our home a lot more that we put less woe and tears into it. The cons is living in a house when you're renovating, it's not fun.
I'd like the record to show that was a choice. I had a mile and a half away that was vacant.
But it was like a bachelor pad. It was yeah, I would get anybody.
The pros are we can get an idea and figure out how we want to do it, and then you walk in a month later and it kind of looks like the idea in your head, and you know you did the work because I'm not in the hospital, so I get bored. So this is my hospital right now is designing stuff, building stuff, and it's like I.
Have a picture. I'm like, can you do this?
You're like, okay, yeah, it feels good because I'm myself am like I don't know.
I don't know can I do that?
And then you know, put a little but a research into it started and then it's been looking kind of like the vision in my head. So the proser it feels good and you save a lot of money. The cons are that only happens if you want to do all the work. So it's like how much do I want to spend or how much do I want to save? And do this for ten hours a day.
I feel like the hardest thing.
I know.
You guys like started with the kitchen and that was obviously like a huge undertaking. I feel like eating out for every meal for three months would be one of the hardest non construction side effects.
It was that. And then we also started renovating in the middle of summer, and we didn't have like running water, And granted we could have bought a water filter and made our lives so much easier, but we were going to the grocery store every other day and like buying like the bolk thanes of water. And yeah, it was just a simple.
We chose to make life a lot harder than it was. That's what I'm thinking.
Most people do we we also we also we also do that. Was there ever so far? Has there been any kind of like hiccup or rough patch where you've had to call in help?
We'll call in.
It takes a lot for a suggest there. I'm like, can we call for help? Can we ask for help?
You're like no, I'm like, it's only two in the morning. What do you mean we don't need to call them. Yeah, there's been stuff. There's I can if I have enough time, I can figure out most things. But there are stuff where it's like, Okay, this will literally take me all day. What am I doing? There's professionals like yeah, old in four hours, and there's a bunch of guys that come in.
So there is stuff.
It's what we learned is with old houses, you think you're gonna fix one thing.
Let's make a cute little.
Door with some shelves and whatever, add some trim, make it look cool. Then you start actually doing it and you find like ten other things there.
Oh, that's it out, Okay.
So it's like just kind of just planning for that stuff to happen and uh, you know, trying not to fight over it.
But has been what's been like the biggest hiccup in the construction process, whether it was like an air or like you rip down a wall and there was mold, or what was the biggest thing that you were like, Oh my god, I can't believe this is happening.
I have a bad, naughty boy habit of working hard building something than the last like twenty minutes. Just start doing demo on something else. And then it's another.
Where you jump. So you so you before totally avoidable? Yeah, yeah, you jump.
Okay, I think that's a common thing.
It'll be like on my way to sleep, like Abby's already a bed, I've one eye open and I throw a hammer like through the wall and then I'm like, I'll just demo this really quick just to get started. And then I'm like, okay, great, that's ten more projects that I have to do when the one's not done.
I know because that's the moment where I was like, why are we doing this?
The wallpaper that was a hiccup. I'll take it all back. The wallpaper was the biggest hiccup.
We almost broke up.
Why why what happened?
Now? A moment where I almost had a full on breakdown.
I just think, if I'm gonna be honest, I think wallpaper's cool. It's timeless, it's classy.
We are going to be hired.
It shouldn't exist.
No.
Yeah, that was like that's when I felt dumb, Like sure, I built all this cool stuff with the wallpaper kind of just it didn't be dirty. So there's little projects like that where you don't expect it and then you're like, well, this is taken four more days than we thought.
Now we have to make other people wait at kind of cascades.
But you're living in the house, you're enjoying it, trying to make the most of it. And then it's like, once we're done with this house, we're able to work on other houses, which we're doing, which is nice.
We're not living in a construction zone still.
So you guys, are you two rehabbing other homes together?
Yeah, we kind of just decided, like we're practicing on our house. I've got a couple other houses and I've bought them since I've been here, so we're kind of just keep rolling with it.
Got my own.
Abby's the designer. We're kind of just leaning into it until it doesn't work.
I know, I love I think that's I honestly, I think that's genius and I think, yeah, I think it's so smart and Abigail, when it comes to design, is this something that you're passionate about? Do you love it?
Uh? It's a learning curve. I hated it at first because I'm so used to just designing like one room, like an apartment or something, and putting all my attention on that. And then we came to this Bells with no furniture. I think, only are clothes, like nothing, and so just having that much of a blank campus it was really overwhelming. I didn't really know what my style was. We started all the kitchen and then with a couple of things I'm like else, Shoot, I wish I did this, but we already put so much money into it, were it's going to write it out. But now I would say that we kind of got the bigger projects under the belt. I actually love it and it's actually been something super passionate about, like putting together the mood or picking out the furniture. So I want to try to keep doing it for as long as we can kind of move away from like the influencing space and more into this would definitely be a fun, long term goal.
Joe, She's good. She's really good. I would always be getting so good at decorating.
I said that for the first like six months, and now it's like, no, I's definitely better at design than me, and decorating in the vibes she makes are actually really cool.
Kick your credit card and I just.
Go, yeah, no, it's actually really cool. It's really nice not having to work myself worry about that aspect.
Yeah, be good at it and enjoy it.
And then with you know, we're we're using social media and stuff after the show, being able to share stuff that we actually enjoy and I'm actually doing the work. It is a lot more fun versus kind of what we were doing in the last two years, which was also fun. It was just a lot more go go go and a lot of the stuff it's hard to really sit down and enjoy, whereas this game, which.
Yeah, and it's not as I feel like the other stuff is great, but it may not be as fulfilling as doing somebody that you are passionate about, and you could post about it and be like, this is it. This is what we love. Take it or leave it, but I'm gonna keep posting about it.
I Mean, it's funny because everyone thinks, oh, you're an influencer, you're made of millions of dollars, like nobody can do what you're doing, like all this stuff, And I think about all the work that we have been doing in the money that we've been saving, and I'm like, Okay, I could do this for the next few years just because one I'm saving a lot of money and two I am like, I'm loving it.
It's really cool to me right now. Yeah, it's fun. It's been a weird change, but it's been super cool.
Yeah.
I mean, compared to what we were doing in California, I think we had a lot of days where we just had a lot of time and we're kind of trying to find things that we enjoy. And then here I feel like we've just been busy, nonstuff, but it's been with good things I actually look for, like waking up and being like, here's our t do list today, Like let's check everything done. So I definitely like our pace better.
No, it was just hard for the two years when we weren't in a spot for more than you know, three to six months. I really get any structure, find anything you want to do outside of that.
You when I saw you in Chicago, like after we left, I was like, I feel like, Noah, like looks different.
I thought it was your hair.
But I actually think you look like the manual labor is like slim fitted you up.
I didn't know.
I didn't had that many compliments high school prom when I got a haircut.
When you're building a home, you know, I think it's I.
Think it's uh, I think it's really cool. Been good for you guys, And now I'm sure you're going to be busy planning a wedding. Have you started that process yet?
We have? We finally started about a month ago. Were like, yeah, that's pretty much our only date.
We have a date venue, You have a location, okay, location planner, so Abby h and I like, I said, you're not fighting over things that we can avoid.
So a wedding planner to help her me doing the house stuff. We have a date, we have a place, and we'll see if you guys are invited.
You guys are, no question?
Well Noah, I mean here. So Noah. When we were all in Chicago for Kenny and Murray's wedding, Noah said to me, He's like, well, He's like, do you do you think you're going to He said, do you think you're even gonna come? I said, come to?
What?
To our wedding? I said, well, I don't know. Are we invited? He said, while I don't. I mean, I'm not gonna invite you. If you're not going to come, well, I don't know what to tell you. I don't even know what to do. I don't know what it is.
We're doing such a small wedding that I'm like in a weird position where I'm having to call my friends that I've known for a long time but we haven't had the time to hang out with. I'm having to call them be like, hey, well you're not invited to the wedding. I'm having to like call people and say, hey, it's been a while, I love you. You're not invited to the wedding unless you can make.
It and you can really Okay, noah, Like I just need to have like a chat I want.
I know I can't help myself.
No, but do you know how this works? Like you send out an invite and then they are s VP yes or no. You don't say if you're not coming, I'm not going to send you an invite you don't like you do.
Don't send out an invite if it's an inconvenience and you're not gonna come.
He doesn't want any note. He just wants an invite.
Is to find out if they're.
Coming or not.
If if I send an invite to you and Joe and Joe goes, wow, I don't know what we're doing this?
What's in Oklahoma anyways?
Like and I'm like, okay, Joe doesn't want to be here, that's fine, you know, but.
No, where would I even how would where would I? I wouldn't write that on the yes or no for the RSVP, Like we're maybe gonna We're going to have that conversation.
When in Oklahoma, what am I gonna do?
Okay, so Oklahoma is can we share? That is going to be what it is?
It's in Oklahoma, and it's going to be this year, this year in Oklahoma.
That's pretty much all the details we have at this point. But oh, in small wedding. So we're trying to navigate those conversations and I feel like it's only going to get worse once the invites go out.
My family is about thirty, yes, so for meeting.
It's not bad. That's decent sized.
But hm, we're trying to keep it around seventy five would be ideal.
We want classy.
Dinner party, yes, luck, I love that.
And we loved your guys' wedding. Your guys wedding was great.
Thank you, Okay, we do. We do appreciate that. We loved it.
The big but the wedding was fantastic.
Well, ours was about one thirty so yeah, that's like like almost yeah people, it's almost.
Double what you guys are thinking.
Yeah, and then Marie and Kenny's party was like two hundred and fifty people.
That was big. That was a lot. That was a lot of people.
Yeah, we went to our wedding last week and it was almost three hundred people and it's still super fun, but I think just it's very overstimulating and I just want to be able to like talk to everyone at the wedding, have conversations. So that was kind of we knew right away we wanted a smaller wedding.
Is there was there are there any takeaways from Serena in my wedding or Teddy and Maari's wedding and you're like where you're like, you know, that's just not for us, Like something that they did where you're like, okay, wing this, you want to go first.
One thing that we are for sure doing that you guys did, We're just gonna tweet it a little.
The espresso bar Espresso Martini brilliant? Were you guys?
That was?
That was a Serena idea.
That was the end of the night.
Where you guys, because at the end of the night, I had like eight I had like eight espresso martini and I'm like, dude, I shouldn't have started drinking.
Yeah.
So yeah, everyone went out really late.
Everyone said they were really late, and I honestly think it was because people were chugging the espresso martinis at yeah, like nine pm and then.
Espresso. All I heard was martini.
I forgot the express, but we wanted that because, yeah, I feel like a lot of weddings, you say, And we wanted dinner to be quick, like we're like an hour and a half max, like try to get through it. So because I feel like the longer, if I'm sitting and drinking, I'm getting tired. So I'm like, I want to like do it to like kick everyone's energy up so that the dance store is popping.
And it worked because your guys's dance floor was great. We weren't forced to dance for an hour and a half like most weddings, you know what I mean, where it's like we have to do the duck dance five times. You guys got to dance. Joe wish I wouldn't have seen you dance, but you look like you had fun.
You joined you.
So we're gonna take a few pieces from your guys. I don't know about the nos.
I think the only thing that we're just doing a little bit different than you guys. I think this size really is the biggest thing. We're just doing it a little bit smaller, but everything else like I love the black tie element. I love, honestly just the energy, like the low things that you guys did. For the energy, you could just tell everyone wanted to be there and love celebrating.
See, that's why it's important to call before it.
I do.
I do appreciate how I asked you a question about the negatives from our wedding and you turned it all the positive. Okay, let's well.
I did something there, but this I think it was Charlson traffic because Charleston traffic was so bad. So a couple of people showed up late to the ceremony until in So because of that, I was like, maybe we should do like a pre ceremony coptail.
Okay, yeah, I would recommend this actually, because we put I think five pm as the start time on our invitations and we actually started like at five pm, which I didn't actually expect. But I wasn't like looking at the clock at all that day. It was kind of just like when people told me to be places, I would, but I should have said, like say five pm, start at five point fifteen, yeah, just or say like arrive, like if you put like a arrive at four forty five. Ceremony begins at five pm sharp.
Yeah, I would recommend that it was also just the chop because I know I was like, I want to be there at least fifteen minutes early, Like I don't want to risk it. Me left early, and I think we made it with like five minutes to spare.
We weren't one of the ones sneaking in when the ceremony started. That was one thing.
I was specific about.
Lovely Well.
Part of the wedding thing for us is nobody knows what even is in Oklahoma.
We're gonna show you guys a good time.
And we're wanting it to be, yeah, like a weekend fun.
There is a state in Oklahoma called Oklahoma that's a lot of It's not just teepee's and horse drawn carriages, you know, and it's a lot of fun.
So part of it's going to be like the weekend some of our.
Closest friends that we got over the last two years to spend time with and obviously try to let Tulsa shine a little.
No, I'm excited.
On a horse.
Oh my god, I can't picture Joe on a horse. I've been on a horse yeah, I know, I just I can't picture it. I've never seen you the ones that you put quarters and don't count.
Actually I've actually been on one of those two. What do you say it's Serena. What were you saying?
Oh?
I was gonna say, like Joe and I would probably never go to Tulsa unless we were like, yeah, visiting you guys or visiting friends, so like it is fun to get to go somewhere we've never been. We would probably never go otherwise for like a weekend of celebration. But maybe we will come back. Me we'll fall in love with Tulsa. I know you guys are trying to get everyone you know to move there. So maybe we'll become best friends with Noahs seven hundred siblings and then we'll all hang out in Tulsa together.
Doesn't Sylvester Stallone have a have a TV show that's based in Tulsa?
Tula King?
Okay? Is it?
Do it?
What?
Yeah?
Yeah?
Is it good? I never watched it? Is it good?
Extra?
Yeah?
He inhaled the helium balloon and fell over. That was like his one scene.
Oh really, I thought it was good.
I thought it could have been better. I heard a lot of hype, like, oh, show about Tulsa. I was like, oh, heck, yeah, it's gonna be good.
So that's just alone. I was like, Okay, a little cheesy, but it was good.
Is it true to Tulsa.
It is pretty true to Tulsa.
It's he stays at the Mayo Hotel, which is like an og because Tulsa's got in the twenties was the oil capital of the world. There's decho, a lot of old money, so there is a lot of that still here. That's part of what's cool about it. So there was that aspect. And they're legal marijuana now, so that was also the other part of the show.
It's a big step for Oklahoma.
I always forget that, like that's such a big deal here because it's legal across Canada.
It's been legal in Canada, right, we didn't have Oklahoma had three percent beer for until the like four or five years ago.
So you couldn't go over three percent.
To go to a liquor store to get beer over three percent.
That's crazy.
A bar not long ago? What about it?
Like a bar bar is different, but just over it can't be cold if it's over three percent, and it can't be sold at a liquor store now it can't.
So wow, you guys are evolving.
Watch out, watch out everyone, Tulsa.
I love it though. It's great. It's like a tiny little like a whole month like everything.
Everybody's just so happy. It's slower, peace living.
So you guys are living in your own wholene.
What you guys doing, But it's just like slowly trying to convince people.
It is crazy though, because.
I feel like Abigail, your life has evolved, maybe more than most people from our season, because like we came off the show, you were like living it up in NYC as a single gal, partying hard, and then.
You've had Noah.
You guys were being in l a and like your apartment, you guys were jumping around playing pickleball, and now you're like wiped up Mary, living in a Hallmark movie small town, being ship.
And enjoying the games. You've lived many lives. These passed two years, both of us.
I thought on Paradise that was one of the things John, you and I didn't talk about anything important.
But one of the things I talked about. I thought she was just like a New York party girl. I was like, Wow, that's fun. That's cool, but you know, in two years it's.
Not what I'm gonna want someone to want to settle down. So it's funny to see how we both had.
Oh Noah, cut the bullshit. This guy.
There?
Anything else? Just a party or I just want to settle down.
Tell you what, Joseph, Wait, No, are you going to go back to nursing at any point?
Do you think, dude, you and everyone to me that I didn't quit nursing. No?
I know, I know you're like hunt, but if you're loving what you're doing now, like, do you think you'll continue to do that more actively?
I don't think I will right now. It's taking me, like literally a whole.
Year of debating that question with myself because it's something I've always wanted to do and.
I went to school for and it's my career. But right now, with the real.
Estate stuff and kind of where we're at, I'm it's sort of replacing what nursing was for me. But I'm keeping all my my credentials and everything for a while. If we run out of money trying to buy houses, I can go back to work. But once we kind of get settled more here then I would like to get back, but right now it's kind of like it's not really.
Feasible and taking a back seat.
Yeah, do you guys something like right when we started planning our wedding, I instantly started planning the honeymoon. Do you have have you thought about where you want to go for your honeymoon? See it's not even a think. Noah, you and I are the same. Instantly we we we are the guys want to plan the honeymoon.
Well, we've traveled together. We're Joe, we are world travelers.
Yeah, okay, so of course they say where we should go, pick where we should thrive and chack life the most sure I can take that burning.
Experienced pick where we should thrive.
Oh, anyways we want to do We basically said no trips except for Chicago where you saw me be a wild animal.
Other than that, we haven't really done any trips just because we've been so jam packed.
So our honeymoon we kind of want to do like a big trip as like a reward for the house stuff honeymoon, and we were planning she's Scottish. We were planning to go to Scotland and all those Nordic places until we realize it's winter, so probably, but I want to try to do a couple of week, two to four week trip.
We do it all then get back to work.
That's amazing.
No, I haven't planned it yet.
Okay, we're gonna play a game with you guys before we let you go. But seeing this as a Bachelor Nation podcast, is there anything that you want to share? Anything that that people may not know about you guys that you want to share? If not totally Okay, it's a weird question. I wouldn't be able to answer it.
What do you want? Like your pregnancy? Like what are you fishing for right now?
I don't know?
Just like, like, is there anything you want right now?
Do you know something I don't know?
Okay, all right, let's news listen.
The only update I guess from us is yeah, we've been kind of removed from the show for a while, but we still love the show. Our new chapter is a lot different than I feel like a lot of people would expect. It's very random, but it's been super fulfilling.
We love where it's at, and I'm hoping to keep kind of continuing it nice.
Do you know something that I don't know. That's probably for salvage. That's funny, all right, Okay, so we are going to play rapid Fire Questions Wedding Edition with Abigail and Noah. Okay, question number one, Big wedding or intimate ceremony, intimate traditional or non traditional ceremony.
Probably that's a shock to a lot of Oklahoma people. I feel like, I don't think we're going to do a lot of like the groom's men and the brides and the what they called the garter hunt, the little all that.
Yeah, we didn't that.
DJ or live band.
Live.
Are you literally just trying to get exactly what our wedding is gonna be like?
Because I think, yeah, we're trying to say if we're gonna come or not.
Okay, oh yeah, it depends on costs. But I also have time.
You're gonna be the wedding.
Okay.
For the I guess was walking down the aisle, I was playing already down there.
I only know one song.
I only know half this song.
For the for the music A must play song in a song on your do not play list?
Okay, so far our do playlist?
Adore You Miley Cyrus A cover version maybe a violin.
Oh so classy.
It would be a shame to have a live fiddle.
It would be a shame.
Yeah, I do not play song. I have one go ahead, the Paradise theme song. Like I just want to try like Paradise and.
No, I get that.
We did say like we want callbacks to early periods in our relationship, like Joe framed like the note I gave him after Paradise, but like I was like, I don't want like red roses or like tropical drinks or the Paradise theme song.
Yeah.
One of the things we're going to try to do is the people that have speeches, they write something out before because we're gonna kind of have just like an open time for speeches because it's such a small wedding, and then we're going to try to let Abby read or be able to read those or put them all in like a picture frame after Unless we have no speeches, one speech would be an awkward picture frame.
No one is going up there.
Open bar must have or no go must have Okay, Okay, Yeah. Indoor outdoor wedding outdoor outdoor.
If the weather that was the biggest requirement for me. Outdoor Oklahoma weather when it's bad, it's terrible.
Yeah, I saw your sister was over for like a Tornadoesn't she have a.
Go tornado earth? Yeah? Alkloaholma guts everything.
Okay, just just to just to regard.
From us and shows up with her passport and her dog.
It's a thunderstorm, Okay, just to reiterate for just to reiterate for all three of you. These are rapid fire questions. So just I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm going to ask, and you guys are just gonna say the first thing comes to go by? Okay? Is this conversation as much as I love it breaking the rules of Abigail one perfect dress or outfit changes, I'll fit, changes, batch, party, relaxing trip or Vegas.
Trip, relaxing golf? Was that too long of an answer?
You just made it too long like you were there and then see now I'm jumping into it's the game?
Is the game?
Uh, Abigail, you didn't answer that.
Relaxing.
I find that I actually find it hard to believe, considering you were such a party girl before.
I like that.
Couples cocktail, must have her no go, must have ideal dress code for your guests.
You better look slick, but not slicker than me.
Oh, then I don't even know if I should go because I'm super slick, don't Well, Okay, honestly love talking to you guys. This has been a lot of fun. Thank you so much for coming on. I really do hope you guys get like an HDTV show or something, because I do think you're both very talented. And I probably wouldn't watch it, but if I went to the dentist and it was on, I would.
You're the kind of guy that wouldn't let Serena watch it. She'd make you do some of the work we're doing.
I know you.
No, I would never allow you. No, I would.
I would be more likely to fly you out here Noah to do it than recruit Joe to do handyman work on our home.
Love you, Joe, but that's not your strength and we both know it.
Well, all close this out since show can't close it out. Thanks for having us on.
You guys can check out our stuff at Noah Underscore HERB. I'm just for soon to be her. We love you, guys, and thank you for mentioning HGTV because we do want to show.
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