Cheaters, Botox, and Chardonnay! | Golden Hour

Published Jul 17, 2024, 7:01 AM

Today on Golden Hour, Kathy and Susan are here to dish out some advice to Bachelor Nation! We kick off today's episode with our question of the day: what do you consider cheating? Then, we get into some of your questions! How do our Golden ladies feel about getting work done? How on earth do you get over an ex?! Kathy and Susan have the advice to give and they are not holding back! Plus, we put a little twist on today's episode with a game of Truth or Drink you won't wanna miss! 

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Welcome to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. Here we are again. We're back. Thank you so much for coming back and joining us.

Katy, Oh my gosh, we are having so much fun. If you haven't listened to our episode from Wednesday, I have so many questions. The biggest one is why not check it out? We've had so much fun.

We couldn't stop laughing. I mean, I can't, can't. You can't make this stuff up? I know, I just we had a ball. You guys, definitely check it out today. We've got some great fan questions. I can't wait to get into these today. And don't forget if you have a question for Kathy and I send them to Bachelornation dot com slash Golden Hour. We have been getting so many great questions from you guys. Thank you for keeping them coming.

The questions and the comments have been great. We got our first update. It's been wonderful. Please send them in. But first, before we get started with today's questions, we're going to do the topic of the day. Are you ready, Susan? Okay? Today's topic is what do you consider cheating? Some people think flirting is cheating, others think dancing with someone else is cheating something. Some think texting someone else is cheating, and then there are some more obvious ones like kissing or sleeping with someone, or maybe hooking up with someone. So where is the line for you when it comes to what cheating is and how do you communicate that with partners?

Well, I'm all about communication. My lips aren't sealed, that's for sure.

I mean to me, if it looks like a dog and smells like a dog, it's a dog, right, cheat?

I mean flirting, flirting, it depends. That's not cheating.

I don't think flirting is cheating. No, I don't.

And I'm dancing with somebody.

Come on, I said, that's not cheating. I mean, I think even depending on how the kisses is not cheating. You know, it's just like a hugs, so nice to see you. Making out is cheating?

Texting? They're saying texting.

Susan, Susan, there's sexting and then there's texting.

I don't do that either.

Okay, we're teaching Susan about hooking up and sexting.

Okay, get passed the hooking up? Okay, So where cheating is making out with somebody and.

Going wait a minute. Cheating is wait a minute, having sex with someone?

Yes?

Or making out with someone? Yeah, that's cheating. That's it.

Great, I kiss somebody else?

Great? If those are your two rules for for for cheating, I can't knoll oh, what's coming is? I can't wait for your next boyfriend because he and I are going to Italy. I promise I won't sleep with them and I won't kiss him, but we're gonna have a great.

Time in Well, you can't do that.

It's not cheating. I just asked you. I said, do you can go on a trip together? Was not in this equation here? It just said, where is the line when it comes to what is cheating? I asked you what cheating was? You said making out? The world heard it, Susan, you said making out or sleeping with him. So I'm telling you I'm not going to make out with your boyfriend and I'm not going to sleep with them, but he's going to Italy with me and we're gonna have a great time.

I won't guess that I'm coming.

No, you're not.

Why would you want to go with my boyfriend and I don't even have one?

Because I don't have one? And if you have one in any port in a storm.

He'll do. What is cheating to you? Again?

Honestly, uh, I think there can be in all seriousness, which we have not been today, all affairs of the heart and affairs of the mind are cheating. But when I think of cheating, I think what does real danger to a relationship? And I think, yeah, exactly, That's what I'm saying. What can do emotional damage? You know, the physical. I used to say to my husband, this is true. We used to say to each other. You know, you can do a lot of things. You know, you can gamble the grocery money when we were younger. But you cheat on me, We're done, It's over. That is I would walk away. But what's cheating, I just for me, cheating is having a relationship with another person male female, another person sexual emotional that you've acted on where I am not number one anymore, even in the short term, where your mind and body part is somewhere else.

People think flirting and dancing with somebody is cheating, Like.

Well, I mean some people. Who's some people? You know, I don't think. I don't think that's cheating, But I think insecure people might think, you know, if I asked your boyfriend to dance with me, You're not insecure. It wouldn't bother you at all. You'd say, go for it. I'm gonna go to drink at the bar.

But although I've been to religious churches and some people think dancing is not appropriate period.

But that's different. That's like a sin. I'll tell you my sister stepsister was very jealous. If her husband even looked at another woman, she could go postals. So you know, I think it's I think we all know what's cheating. You know, you and I know what would be cheating. And I can assure you my husband knew what was cheating.

All righty, you're ready for the questions today? Guess this is old Karen?

Are you gonna good questions?

She didn't put her age or where she's from. I Kathy and Susan, I could do some dating advice or words of encouragement. I used to be bed down and wigh a almost six hundred pounds. After getting gastric bypass surgery and working on myself, I am much healthier and happier. Unfortunately, despite losing a lot of weight, I am very self conscious of my new body. It's completely hindered my dating life and ability to put myself out there. I am proud of all that I have done, but I am bummed to still be feeling this way. Any tips, Thank you both, Love you ladies. God bless her.

Can I just say yay to you, Karen, and that you used to weigh six hundred pounds and I'm guessing couldn't. Yeah, you said bedbound. Let's just be honest here, friends, if you've lost out much weight, you've got a lot of loose skin because our body can only reabsorb react so much. So if if you can afford it, go get me. If you can afford it, go get the surgery and get your you know your body. I will tell you, and you know, Susan, I've said it on this podcast. I used to weigh two hundred pounds and you know now I I weigh you know, one thirty whatever, and my skin is not what it you.

Know what it is. You're fine, I've seen.

I'm saying it's not taught.

Pounds down to but.

But I'm just saying no, no, no, let me finish. My point is I sometimes feel I look in the mirror and it's it's like body dysmorphia, Like I look awful because I see the person that weigh that, and that may be partially what's going on with her, and maybe partially that you know, her skin needs some some medical tension, medical attention.

I mean, I'm just I agree with that. I would take a loan and I'd finish the process. Or maybe she already has. I don't know, but she's hindered by her dating like that, she had no dating life and she's worried about putting herself out there. You should feel fabulous you did this. Stand proud, love yourself, because it's not going to be worth dating anybody until you love yourself. Be proud of yourself. You've accomplished something really huge and you never dated. You were in bed, so it's like a learning thing for you. Try little things.

I was going to say, yes, you got to give it, but you got to do it. Yeah, Karen, you got to give yourself some grace here.

Proud of Karen.

Yeah, we're proud of you for losing the weight. And you said you're much healthier and happier. Yeah, you, but take it a step at a time. If you feel like a surgery would help you, if you feel like getting out in meeting small groups. Just just do it a step at a time. You don't just like you know, even after you have the gas to bypass surgery, you didn't lose all that weight overnight. It does. These changes in your personal life take time.

To oud of you, go for it?

Yeah, really proud of you. It's good for you. Okay. This is from Heaven eight, not from upstairs, but our person's name is Heaven Age sixty four from Chewu La Vista. Hello Golden Hour gals. I hope question isn't too personal. I am just a woman in my sixties trying to look my best and think you are both so gorgeous. I was curious about your beauty routines and your feelings on plastic surgeries, fillers, and botox. I am considering getting some work done to feel more confident in myself, but my husband says that I don't need anything done. It's not that I quote need it, It's more that I want to just feel better about myself. Would love to just hear you two talk about this topic and normalize it for women our age, so I could feel a little less shame self judgment around it. Thank you so much. Just do it, Just do it.

But the thing is, you don't do it for anyone else. That's right yourself. And she said that a little boatogs will freeze a little month's muscle. But the problem is it only lasts a couple of months, like four months.

Okay, let's spill it. Let's spill it. Have we talked to you, me and Nancy about the three of us going for facelifts, all taking care of each other.

Well, yes, we're all going to take care of one another.

You can't. I mean, my beauty started a kitty. I'm saying that I would do it all. Susan, I've done fillers, I've done both times. I mean, I don't have any.

Problembody that judges you or jealous because they're not doing it.

Tell us what you really think, Susan.

More power to you.

Yeah, no, and you're right, Susan's absolutely right. Do it because you want to feel good about yourself. It doesn't matter what your husband says. It really doesn't matter.

It's funny somebody asked me I would tell them, yeah, oh yeah, I got shot up over here a little bit. But I love the people that say, oh no, I've had no work done.

Hello. There were some women on our show who said that were like, we can still see the needle marks. But I will say as far as beauty routines go, yeah, own it and enjoy it.

Take care of our skin definitely.

Yeah. I mean I get facials once a month. I never I never ever go out in the sun without sunscreen on and hat on. And I washed my face with moisturizers I put on, like I cream night.

What creams? What do you call them? Your do you have a name for him? You pack your I don't know, God, yes you do.

Okay, well it'll come to me. But I'm just saying I use and you know what, it doesn't have to all be expensive stuff. It can be you know, drug store stuff. The real thing is making sure that you drink enough water, stay out of the sun, use sunscreen.

Those really your skin? Yeah, clean your skin, yeap. I had those different routines. I tried different products. Some are expensive summer or not. But I definitely, I mean I'm aging regardless. But imagine if you weren't taking care of your skin. But no, I'm a true believer, and yes I use sunscreen now. I didn't for a long time. I come from baby oil and iodine error.

Can I just tell you it's time for me to do my PSA. Otherwise of the public service announcement, I was at the dermatologist speaking of skin routines yesterday. I have not sat in the sun since I was twenty eight. I remember the day I said, I literally was twenty eight years old. I never go out without sunscreen on my body. I have just had yesterday. You can't see it up on my forehead. Three skin cancers pre cancer's things burned off, you know, just can't.

Tell them the truths were in Saint Martin, and we did go out in the sun. But she lathers up, reapplies.

And I wear long sleeves whenever I can.

I'm Italian. I get brown walking outside.

But have you ever had a skin cancer season?

Yes, I have melanoma. Actually I've had two. No surgeries. Like I said, baby oil and I are dine. I play golf, I have a convertible, I'm in the garden, I'm doing the mults. I'm outside all the time. So yeah, wow, I take care of it. I go to the dermatologist every year. But your skincare routine is yours. You use whatever you use, but definitely take care of.

Yourself and I will tell you my facialist set. People think it's about the makeup, like people say, oh, your makeup books so pretty. It's not. It's the skincare. It's what's underneath. So thank you for thanking you question.

Yeah all right. This one's from Lily and she's twenty nine and she's from Virginia Beach. Hey, ladies, hope you're both doing well. I love, love, love your podcast. I need help with an age old dating problem, getting over my ex. My ex broke up with me for someone else around a year ago. She and her new girlfriend are still together and couldn't be happier.

Me.

On the other hand, I've had trouble moving on. I compare everyone I date back to her, and I still just miss our relationship. I have muted her on social media, but when I have looked, seeing her and her new partner is so painful. How long does it take to truly get over someone and what are ways you've gotten over people in the past. Clearly she wasn't the right person for me, considering she dumped me to date someone else, But I can't get over her and the advice is appreciated. Thank you my queens life Wilia.

Now, yeah, that's so sad. I would say to you.

It's a year.

Well it's a year.

The first thing I say is time.

It's time. It's also instead of I don't know that she's doing this, Lily, but instead of sitting around and you're probably not sitting around, but you know what puts yourself in situations to meet new people because sitting and thinking about her all the time.

It's our social media with her new girlfriend.

Well she muted her, which means she can't see it. But I think that when you say you compare everyone back to her and you missed your relationship, Well, clearly, Lily, your relationship wasn't great because at least not for your partner because she broke up with you. So I think maybe you have a little bit of fantasy of what your relationship was as and compared to what you wanted it to be.

Right, Something crazy just entered my mind that people have said to me in the past. It's like a cliche, but get over somebody. You got to get under somebody to get over somebody. Remember that's saying no, I think somebody else. I don't think that's what that expression means. I do not think that's what that expression means. It is get under someone. In other words, be with somebody else. It helps you get over Are we talking having sex? Got to move on having sex? Really it's hooking up, Kath.

I swear to God, I'm going to write a primer for you. It's going to have all the terms and what they mean.

God these I feel bad, honey, but you know it's usually time and meeting somebody else.

And she says she wants and she says clearly she wasn't the right person for me, considering she don't me to date someone else, Lily, or she was not that. You're absolutely right, So honey, just wait, move on, try to get over it.

It's just feel blessed because obviously she may do this to the next person too, all right.

Sophia is thirty two from Milwaukee. Hello, Susan and Cathy, please help me lol. I'm in the midst of planning my wedding and my mom is driving the nuts. I've always dreamed of planning this day with her, but we've been at each other's throats for months. Every decision I want to make, she likes to complete opposite. Our tastes are just super different, and it's putting a huge strain on my relationship with her and also her relationship with my fiance. It's tough because she and my dad are paying for the wedding, so I feel like she is getting the final say on our day, but it's not going to feel like ours at all if she has her way with everything. Any thoughts on how we can come to a compromise on some of this, or should I just say we shouldn't work together on planning it anymore for the sake of our relationship. Thanks for any help you can give.

Obsessed with you, ladies, I love you, We love you, sing now s it's a pain in the button. Mom's are controlling.

I can tell you what I did with my daughter, and you might suggest to mom Sophia. I gave my daughter a budget and I said, you can do anything you want with it. You can put it down payment on a house, you can buy, to put it towards a car, you can do whatever you want. And she planned the entire wedding, and when she wanted me to come with her to look at things and flowers and sample food, we did that. So Sophia, my suggestion would be, Mom, how do you feel about since it's my day, tell me what my budget is and I want you to be part of it. But I really want to plan my wedding. And if she says, well, Daddy and I are pain then you have a decision to make because you know he who has the gold can make the rules. So if you don't like, get pay for your own wedding.

When she says, Daddy and I are for it in the bill, but it is my wedding, Mom, I don't like that. I mean, I'll compromise on some things, but that is not going to happen on my wedding day. But the daughter, That's what I'm saying. The daughter has a right. My daughters knew I would spend more than she would, so she goes, Mom, do what you want. Just make it black tye.

Okay, I mean my daughter had exquisite taste. But I'm saying, I'm I think there's two sides. No, But Susan, there's two choices here. One is them who has the gold makes the rules. You don't like it, take a loan and pay for your own wedding and say mom, you're an invited guy.

Why did parents have to control what kind of wedding it is?

They? I didn't say they have to, it's it's I'm saying. If mommy is controlling it and she's paying for it, she may be one of those moms who says, hey, I'm paying for it. I'm going to do what I want to do with it. That's possible. And I'm saying it's her wedding, but she's paying for me.

I don't care. She's supposed to. It's her mother.

Oh well tell that to all the girls out there paid for their own weddings. Okay, let's start that conversation.

I wish you luck, honey. Try to talk to her, Try to make me cry a little bit and say, Mommy, I don't want to upset you, but I really don't want that. Oh great, want to Now you're saying to be disingenuous, Gus, she's upset, So cry, Sophia, good luck and call me if you need me. I'll come marry you. She probably won't like that either. She probably wants you in a church and that would get her back perfectly. DM me, babe. Okay. This is from Carrie Age. Fifty seven from Indianapolis. Hi, Golden Girls. I have a bit of a dating dilemma I could do some help with. I recently started dating this guy, let's call him John. John checks all my boxes and seems like the kind of guy I have been waiting to find. Everything was going great between us for a few months, and after it was all green flags yay, I got a call from my friend who said she heard he previously cheated on his last few girlfriends. I confronted John about it and he said it's true, but that he's worked on himself and has gone to therapy and promises he won't cheat on me. I am struggling because I have always been a believer in the once a cheater, always a cheater theory. But John is such a sweetheart and I really can't imagine him doing that to me. Am I being naive? Should I get out before we get deeper into this and I could get more hurt? Or do I trust him that he's changed? I mean, he's never cheated on me, and everyone has a past. I need an unbiased opinion. What do you ladies thinks? XO Carrie, what do you think? Because you don't want to ask me. I'm a believer, and he's good. Now he loves you, He's not going to do it again. I want to see the good in people. Everybody does make mistakes.

What do you think I'm going to say? Take a baseball on back to him.

I didn't know who said anything that I said about you.

You're like what, I always look for the good, so I look for the bad. He Here's the thing. We don't know how long they've been dating.

A couple of months, right, so.

Why don't we worried?

Why is she working? She don't want to get him really deep? Well, you know what, love a few months? Love his risk, so everything was going great for a few months. Take the risk you.

Got to take. Yeah, you like you got to take the risk, and you know what, no risk, no gain, And who knows? You might date him another two months and decide it isn't all green flags that you don't like him and has nothing to do with him cheating on his ex girlfriends, I mean in his past relationship.

So I like that he went to therapy about it. I know I'm freaking the cheats that way. You know, those guys have issues, but therapy helps people sometimes you got to take a chance.

I think it's I think it's.

Everybody makes mistakes.

Everyone has a pair. Well, yeah, everyone makes mistakes, but not the same one three times, right.

A couple of times she did it?

Yeah, I don't know. I don't think once.

How goody is to you and how happy you are with him. Yes, you're taking a chance, but you take a chance with anybody you're falling in love with. Anything can happen, And honestly, if he did, it's gonna hurt like hell, but never regret the moment, so that you learn from him, grew with him and enjoyed him.

Yeah, and I'm saying they haven't dated long enough to know they haven't dated something else. You know what I'm saying. She might meet a guid at the bus stop she likes better. I mean. But I will say to you, Carrie, when you say it's all green flags, is there a perfect relationship anywhere in life? So be realistic, Carrie in your assessment of him, Be realistic. No one is perfect. All right? Well, that amazing group of questions today. Thank you to everyone who wrote in. We're wishing you guys all the best. Whether you're dating, is planning a wedding, whatever's going on, And if you want to send us a question, head to Bachelor nation dot com slash Golden Hour and submit yours. Now, we really do love hearing from you. We love sharing our opinions. Susan and I love arguing with each other who's right? So keep those questions coming.

Okay? Then, now, before we wrap up for today, Kathy, I have an idea for a new little game. How about this is just because you failed at truth, I suck at quandary. Okay, so how about we play around of truth? Or drink?

Oh wait, w drink? Wait, drink? I mean all right, I got it.

Let's do this, all right.

I'm always down first, Spiley, I'll do whatever I gotta do to get my glass of wine. Let's do it all right? All right?

What's the weirdest thing you've been asked on a date? Now? I guess this means if we don't want to answer it, we drink. Is that yeah?

Well for me, it's it's it's you can't lose I get to drink or answer the question. I mean, who cares? All right? So what what's the weirdest thing you've even asked on a date?

Weird. I don't know.

I can't. I can't drink. We're going to drink drinking? Hmmm? All right? Oh, who had your favorite night one dress on Golden Bachelor? That's easy. I loved mine.

I was just gonna say my feathers, Yeah.

I remember them. Do you remember that I left.

Eight of his gold dress? I thought that was nice?

Yeah, that was pretty too. Yeah.

I honestly, Kathy, I was more into getting to know them. I couldn't even tell you what everybody war.

I can't either, I can't. All right, where is the weirdest place you've ever had sex?

Come on on a rooftop in Miami in the jacuzzie.

Oh shoot, you're gonna believe this? You know what? My answer was, thanks a lot. No, it was also in a jacuzzie. But it was not fun. I don't like doing Yeah that was yeah, but there was more of that story. But I don't have to drink because I can't. My kids can't hear this. All right? Which Bachelor Nation couple do you truly think we'll get married next?

Oh? I know that one?

Who?

Kelsey and No?

Are you joking?

Brandon and Christina? Why? And Zach got a drink.

You're going a drink.

You gotta drink your doesn't say drink when you're wrong.

Drink when I was right? Who cares?

I think a few of them are going to But who's next? Maybe you're Maybe you're right because they're closer to getting married than the other ones.

That's what I think.

Yeah, take a drink. Break.

You've learned Wait, wait, wait before you read this one. You've learned some terms. You know what hooking up it? Oh? You know? Okay, great? Read it.

I was a flight attendant, kat This has nothing to do with me. Yes it does. Are you a member of the Mile High Club? This is not a credit card club. Do you know what the mile High?

Yes? I do. It's having sex in the bathroom on an airplane.

Yes, those years and never was a member of the mile High Club. My ex husband and I went to Hawaii to get married. I said, Dicky, I've never had sex the airplane, so you got to come in here. I want to be a member of the Mile Hog Club.

Can I just tell you I was never a flight attendant, and I've never been a member of the High Club. But you know why. I can barely turn my ass around in that bath and by myself.

It's like it's just a moment. It's not really sex. But whatever. Yeah, okay, that was funny. Where are we?

What's the worst date you've ever been on?

Just a few of them?

Give me, give me one.

He didn't show up.

The work. That's good, you know my worst date? It was actually right for one on the show. It was a guy who just sat and talked about his deceased wife. I think I said this on the podcast before. I wouldn't shut up.

I was a counselor. I can't. I just can't. Let me pay the bill for you and let me out of you.

This guy was like, you know, I would say, oh, I like your glasses. My wife picked him out from me. Oh you know, oh you live in a house wherever. Oh, my wife picked up. I got to the point where I just wanted to say ship to see if I could get him to say, my wife did it all right.

I kind of want to skip the next one. Oh, while, have you ever sent a nude photo?

Absolutely not, have you?

It's not your business.

That's not an answer. Yes, I have drink. You didn't have to drink because you answered the question. Susan, you really struggle with rules of dance.

You don't do any rules? Have you met me? I break them all?

All right? Which Golden Bachelor date do you wish you could steal? That's easy anyone that Jon's on that.

Which Golden Bachelor date do you.

Wish you could sleep? I want to damn Ellen's rastes and diamonds who come up?

Or the helicopter, the helicopter with all that date before it happened?

Yeah, the But I mean, really, I've said this before on this podcast. I got nothing. I didn't get a date, I didn't get quartz, I didn't get a rose. I got nothing.

Okay, oh god, who wrote these? Who is the last person you text? Wouldn't you read the text?

Who's the last? My mine was born? Mister? My daughter? What was yours?

I'm on the podcast, can't talk.

To my daughter? How how to read her daughter? My granddaughter? How did she do in school today? Really boring? Okay, Oh, Susan, is there anything I do that really annoys you?

Yeah?

What?

Oh my god? But you're getting way better at a girlfriend?

And what do I do that?

You over talked me? Shut the hell up and listen, and you gotta do this and you gotta do shut up. Pause? Okay, Kathy, is there anything I do that really annoys you? Are they trying to put us in counseling or what they're trying to break us up?

Before?

Let me drink to that girlfriend. Cheers, cheers, Love you maybe one hundred years.

People wonder we really are good friends. I tell you the help with Gary and terreiesa. You are the best thing to get.

And we argue and we at each other and then we love you. We don't say goodbye without saying I love you good night.

Yeah, all right, what do I do that in? Wait a minute, Kat, wait a minute? Dupid?

He annoys you?

I know, honestly what you do?

First of all, go to have a list in a minute, now, be nice?

What you Susan asked for your advice? Asked for my advice? Particularly in one I know I'm dying. Susan asked for my advice, and then I give her my advice and she goes, yeah, I'm not going to do that. I'm like them, why the hell did you ask my advice? I want to Yeah, I was curious. So now when she asked my advice, I'm like, why do you want it. Are you just curious or do you want?

I want to know what you think? Yeah? Oh god, okay, if.

You ever had a one Susan, have you ever hooked up? That's the old word for one night stand? No, I have, that's I haven't either.

No, we're weird.

We're weird.

Well maybe no, Oh jesus, it was more than once. That would have been like a friend with benefit thing.

Oh my god.

But I liked him like I wanted a relationship, but he did so yeah, so no, it wasn't a one night.

While you're talking, I'm drinking, I'm just yeah. Okay, what are your thoughts on sex toys? That truly is the next question.

I wish I took stocking them.

Oh, look at you, you're learning the financial rules? Body?

Do I enjoy them?

That?

I think partners should be comfortable with everybody enjoying them?

So should we tell everyone what Susan gave me for my birthday?

And she loved the best birthday president she ever? A hookup would have been a better birthday gift. But yeah, hold up, that's a one night stand. This one gets recharged and it could go forever.

Okay, al drink to that.

No, I don't think there's anything wrong with them. Some people struggle in certain ways and they're helpful.

Oh look at now now, now she's playing the political guard struggle. You're not on the struggle bus. Okay, all right? Besides each other? Who from Golden Bachelor? Oh this is easy for me. Besides each other? Who from Golden Bachelor? Would you want to be stranded on a desert island with you? Got to think about this. We take the people we really like, and then we take the people we really don't like.

I couldn't know.

I'm kidding. Don't write into me, guys, kid, I'm.

Talking all right, Kathy? You ready for this one? Would you have sex in the fantasy suite? You're down to two.

Or three?

Or three?

You know the truth? You want the truth to answer?

You could give me whatever you want.

No, I'll give you the truth to answer. If I had gotten to the fantasy suite.

Try it before you buy it.

No, I would have been so convinced, because I am confident. I would have been so convinced that he would choose me. I would have been planning for the future, and I and I would have probably had sex with him. Yep. What about you.

I'm not telling yes you are. I have to be in the moment probably if you got that far like that's yeah happens, yeah yeah, But nobody knows what goes on behind closed doors. They just assume.

I mean, I would like to have I'd like to go to the Fantasy Suite just to see what goes on there. I mean, you know, I don't want to watch Scared with you.

I'm having wine. You're making me drink every question.

See, here's the problem for all of you who are listening.

Susan.

Yeah, Susan drinks, she gets loose lips. You know what can we say?

I'm funny, that one cute sometimes all right, kids, as I just choked on that last and it was a lot of fun. Kats that you think.

It really was super fun.

And once again we thank you all for joining us today on Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. You know what, guys, we couldn't do this without you. I'm so glad that you're tuning in and enjoying us. We mean no harm. We love everybody and we just speak from the heart.

And you know it's Susan that is such a great point. The other thing is, guys, we love hearing from you, but know that we are kind hearted people. If you take what we say and it makes you feel better and helps you, we're happy for that. But the biggest message here is love your life into your life. That's what we're doing and to that, and we love that you tune in and listen to us, and we hope you're following our podcast because life is hard enough. You gotta laugh a little bit along the way.

And it's very short. Enjoy every single moment of it.

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