Alexia and Marysol share stories of their mother’s journeys to the US from Cuba. The chisme gets hot as they dish on Hollywood's favorite ‘viejos verdes’ (Al Pacino & Robert De Niro) and their expecting girlfriends, whether or not it's too soon for Kanye to be introducing his kids to his latest love, and Lionel Messi making his move to Miami’s MLS team.
I with Alexi Napola.
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Hi, Amiga, So you look beautiful.
Thank you.
It's good to see your face.
Yes, I feel like I haven't seen you since Saturday night.
I know, I know, I know, and I don't even think we chat. Yesterday.
I slept into like ten thirty and then hit the road with Steve to you know, spend my time on my.
Sunday bun day.
Yes, good for you, that's my sanity.
Okay, Well here we are again.
Jim Mussel and Cockies.
Yes, we have a lot of things to chat about today.
So do you want to start off?
Why don't we just start off by one of the questions that we left off last week when our fans were writing to us and asking us questions about us and who we were and where we came from.
Yeah, one of the ones we didn't get to finish was about our mothers and how they got settled in the US and what their stories were when they first got here.
What was Nancy's story?
My mom's story is a long story.
And I feel like you know many other Cubans who had to leave the island of Cuba in nineteen fifty nine through sixty two or whatever year it was that a lot of people came. Those were the years. So my mom came, and I think nineteen sixty one, she came a little bit after the revolution, so fortunately or unfortunately, she.
Got to live a little bit of the revolution.
And because of that, she was in medical school in the University of Lavana, and she had to leave from one day to the other, pretty much like a lot of the Cubans, and she wasn't even able to take her notes with her, like her grades, you know, as far as like the university went. So she pretty much came with nothing. And I remember the story of her telling me that when she got to the air where she got to come by plane, and she had an aunt in New York, my grandmother, her mom stayed behind, and so she came all by herself.
She was twenty seven years old.
She came with what she was wearing, and she wasn't allowed to bring anything with her, and in the airport she had to take off her ring, which was the only possession that she had at this point, her graduation ring. And she told me she just had to take everything off and just leave it there in the airport. But most importantly, she had to leave my mom and her family behind, and she came to Miami, where she had some friends of the family, and you know, they put her up and my grandmother, you know, was able to send her a little bit of money while she was here. She had an aunt that was in New York that was already working in La Factoria, so she started sending my mom money and then showing up a little bit later, my dad came.
At this point, my mom and my dad were not married yet.
They were both medical students in Lean ne Verzel l Lavana, so he was able to.
Come as well.
His mom and his parents were taking care of him here. They started cleaning the floor at the hospitals, and when they realized that they weren't going to be able to continue with their medical career here, they were going to have to leave to Spain. They went to Madrid and then to Salamanca. They registered there and they basically had to start medical school again because, like I said, they left Cuba with no grades, with no no no paperwork, with no degrees, with nothing. It was like they had to start from zero again.
Looking for them. They had gone, you know, they already knew some medicine.
But can you imagine like just telling you like you need to, you know, go from one day to the other, like leave all your possessions, leave your family, Forget about your possessions because those are material things that are very feasible. But just say goodbye to your mom, like at the age of twenty seven and not know where you ever going to see them again.
Did she see your mom again?
She did, so my grandmother was able to come.
You know, my grandmother was able to leave Cuba, to leave Lamana and then to go to New York where she started working at the factory with her sister. And that's how she would maintain my mom. You know, my grandmother would send her a dandydo like every month, you know, and you know they lived in like really poor conditions, but all they wanted was to go, you know, to go to medical school and to be able to graduate and be able to come to this country, come back to Miami, and you know, be able to live the American dream like all the immigrants you have pretty much been able to do thanks to this you know, incredible country that gave us the opportunity and gave my parents the opportunity, so they did that. My sister was born in Spain. Because while they were studying my sister, my mom and my dad got married. They finished medical school, and again like my dad's family was supporting my dad, my mom's family was supporting her. They had Dino, and then they were able to come here. So like everyone, like every immigrant that wanted to come back over here, and they started here. They studied for the boards, they did the residency here. My mom did her specialty in psychiatry, my father did orthopetic surgery. My sister was born in Spain. They came back to this country and you know, and that's it. Two years later I was born, and you know, luckily, you know, they were able to pass all all her exams and their boards, and then they started, you know with like their little office and guy, my mom.
Oh they worked together.
No, no, no they didn't. So my parents got divorced. But that's another story, uh huh. But that's how my mom, you know, came from from Cuba in nineteen sixty one, and my mother had a half brother, so he was able to come like with his mom, and I see, you know.
A little by little, they all started her.
Cousins and their aunts and all the family started coming. And you know, luckily I don't have any more family, you know, direct family like that in Cuba. So you know, it was you know, a good successful story and the fact that they were all able to leave and you know, and be and be here.
Yeah, and what about your mom?
My mother, so my grandfather was in the printing business.
I don't know if you had newspapers. I don't remember.
Because my mom didn't like to talk about her life in Cuba very much. You know, a lot of people come here and they love to talk about how amazing it was. She never talked about it. She was more enamored with my dad's family and all their history. It was a lot of history. My grandmother is a daughter of the American Revolution. It's a lot of history on my.
Dad's side of the family. So my.
Mother's family had a home in Miami, and she came to Miami and lived in that home while she went to the University of Miami with her sister.
That's so cool. Oh, so she went to UM.
She went to UM before Castro came.
Then Castro came, and before you knew it, the whole family was in that house.
It wasn't that big for the whole family.
Everybody came, my mother Maya Waelo she had, there were five of them.
Everybody was there, and.
Well, they're so lucky that they all got to come here.
They all came here and they all lived in that house together. It was there over there, like near Flagler by the dog track over there when Miami was sparse, but.
From near the airport.
And then my mom had to go to work, and her sister too. They stopped going to the university and my mom operated an elevator.
Oh my god, how much fun. I can't even imagine your mom in an elevator operating.
You know that no one with the metal accordion door that you would pull like the ones they had in downtown.
Oh my god.
Yes she did that. She operated in an elevator. Then she met my stepbrother's father, Charlie Jones. They got married, they had my brother. He wasn't a good husband. They divorced very young, when my brother was like two. And then she met my father, who also had a small son, and then she married him. So she never finished school. She didn't finish the university. She didn't finish university. And my father went to eighth grade. He only went to eighth grade, but and he came from a very good, well to do family. But he was a worker, and he worked and he became very successful in his industry. Yeah, but I mean, you don't hear people just going at like eighth grade anymore. That's from the thirties and the forties.
Right, No, that's so.
Yeah, that's very back in the day. And they were still very successful. Like your education didn't really determine your outcome and life.
They were very hard workers. Yeah, had different different Yeah, they had different work.
Values and ethics different that's why they became so successful.
Yeah, it's the drive in your ballet at the end of the day. I always say that. So anyway, they they got married, raised to young men, and five years later had me. And that's their story. And that's how she got here. And she came on a plane.
Yeah, my mom came in a plane too, because not everybody. Yes, my mom was lucky enough too, they got to come in. I don't know that it was like a lottery. I remember my mother, just like your mom always never really liked to talk so much about Cuba because I feel like our parents' generation that were forced out of their country is such like a bad memory, you know, in their and you know that time in their life that they really didn't want to talk about it. But you know I did hear like different stories, and I remember the first time when I went back to Cuba for like art reasons with a friend of mine, I had to lie to my mom.
My mom did not know that I was going, that I was going to.
Cuba because my mom liked that person that was would have never gone back to Cuba.
My mother never went back either, never, So I.
Lied to my mom.
But because I would talk to my mom for you know, every day, just like you, so many times a day, my mom was like Alexia was Alexia, like I know, there's something going on. So basically like herman had to tell her, like your daughter's in Cuba. Oh no, right, but she went with her friend and everything's okay, but like she didn't want to tell you because she knew was going to upset you. And so of course when I was in Lamana, I went to different art and cultural things because like I said, I accompanied a front of mine that was very much into Cuban art, and I got to visit l n A Lamana and I took pictures and I thought I was going to come back and share all these things with my mom. And when I saw my mom and I sat down and I wanted to tell her all these things.
She started shrying and she was like, I.
Mean, you know, I mean, Santo, I don't want to see any pictures of that. I had to leave, you know, my country. She was, she was very nostalgic. And then she gave me the example. She goes, Alexia, imagine you being, you know, and when you were in school, like in your university, and that they come and they tell you you have to move out of this house. You have to leave your family behind. You never know when you're going to see them again. And they take all your degrees from your all your education.
You're nothing.
They're just like everything you get claim if you want to it's nothing. You have to start from zero again, yea. And she's like, so how can I, you know, be okay with that? How can I just you know, listen, because I was trying to tell my mom, Mom, you know things are changing, you know, hopefully, you know there's going to be you know, you know you're going to get to live it, you can get to see it. You know, there might be a future, things opening up. And my mother's like, no, no, no, like this is why we left. You know, you can't believe that, Like that's never I mean, I wish it would happen, but you know, here we are again. That must have been like seventeen years ago, and seventeen years have happened and it's still communists and it's still you know, the way that that they left it. And like I said, you know, my mom did leave live like two or three years that revolution, and I think that that's why she was so you know, affected by it, and she wanted nothing to do with knowing that I had gone.
Back to see Cuba.
Yeah, I wanted to see where my parents were from. You know, had a different you know, you know, and even after, like I wanted, I took my kids because my kids were like, Mom, we want to know where, like we we're from, we want to know where you know, my mom, my grandmother, their dad was born in Cuba and came at a very young age. But you know, their dad's family is very Cuban, so he wanted to see that. He's like, you know, we want to see like the Cuba that your parents left, which, by the way, is the same like nineteen fifty nine, sixty sixty one. It's kind of like it stopped in time, like you go back now and it's the same Cuba that our parents left because nothing's been done obviously, So it was you know, it was it was a good experience for me. But I always respected that my parents and you know, our parents' generation felt the way that they do, because when my mom really you know, turned it back to me and gave me that example, I said, I'm sorry, Mom, I'm sorry for you know, for doing that, for disappointing, but I also wanted her to see that For me, it was more about knowing where she came from and you know, going back and listening to all those stories that she told me. Like when I got to Cuban, i met Cubans, they were like, how do you know so much about Cuba? And I said, because my parents would talk about Cuban and the culture and the traditions, like every single day we continued to celebrate you know, Nouana and eat Cuban food and speaking Spanish like you know, we we grew up you know, very Cuban.
I barely did any of that.
Well, you had a gringo die. Your father was American, he.
Was, and he did not want rice and beans. He wanted American food.
Why they're so good American people of rice and beans?
He didn't like it.
He's like it tastes like dirt. I want pasa, I want stay. We had steak every night, salad. It was very American European at home. Yeah, and she never really talked about Cuba.
That's surprising because you're really you're very Cuban like the way that you are, you know, considering it's from so non Cuban.
Yeah, well, Miami raised me, right.
I was raised by my city, and I find it very fun I love the folklore.
I loved talking Guana. It's very funny.
And yeah, I mean I remember like she was very in her own way.
She was very Latin, but I was felt like she was so Italian in her own way too, like I don't know she was.
Well, my mom was very European too, my mom.
Yeah, my mom, she was Spanish and she says it I wouldn't I would be you know, Parisian, so also very European. Yeah, she's also very pain but like inside of her, you know, she had like that, you know, instilled in her. So yeah, so that's where we come from.
Yeah, I didn't get too much info.
It was all about like my mother would keep scraps and scraps of newspapers and articles like the day my dad was born, when it came out in the newspaper in nineteen twenty nine, and you know, like everything that my family did on the American.
So I because she had no records nothing.
She really loved my gringo waspy father and that whole lineage.
And yeah, so that's that.
That's very interesting. Yeah, I like that too. You have a good mix, my friend.
That's why we like each other because we're so different. We're a lot the like, but we're very different too.
That is true. That is true.
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My friend?
Why don't we start off what MESSI said about coming to Miami.
How special and cool is that? You know?
I know you're not very into sports. It's a little bit more sporty than you, but like, this is so good.
You're more sporty spies. But I live with three boys and they love sports, so I have to listen to it. I listen to it. I obsorb the plasmosis.
Right, Well, it's a big deal. You know.
I've always been I've never been such a fan of soccer, but I am a fan of sports on my city, so I know how incredible this is going to be for our team and for our city.
Oh my god, it's we're excited about it.
Not that we need any more people in Miami because I'm you know, everybody wants to live here.
Or another organized sports team, but we'll take it.
Right well, it already exists, by the way, he's just going to join it.
He's going to blow it up.
Oh absolutely, yeah.
I mean with somebody like him obviously joining the team, it's going to take our team and our city to a different level because there's definitely going to be more interest than you know, I plan.
To go to the games. I don't know about you.
I said to Steve, I'm like, since soccer's starting up, maybe we can get those year round seats you know that we missed out on on the Heat. And he's like, oh, they're already quadruple what they were worth. You can forget about that, you know, right. But yeah, So this guy, so Beckham was able to buy the franchise for twenty five million, and now this kid joined and it's where a billion dollars.
Talk about that.
Right the play, I think he killed it.
You know. First of all, let's talk about like I've always been a fan of him, you know, of Messy and by the way, he owns an apartment here in Borsh I think he has it rented or.
Have you seen him at the hallways.
I've seen him before, you know, fix years. He's cute, you know, he's he's he's he's cute. Yeah, he's a cute. His wife is very cute. Also, they have a very nice family. They're always together. And also seen him around in Miami and I love that there's such a united family and they're always together. So I think that's one of the things, you know, like when I like the player, I kind of like to know who he is, where he came from, how he started, and what he's about. So I've always been like his fan, you know, not only as a soccer player and the skills he has and the talent he has, but like who he is as a person. And I feel like, you know, you can say hi to him and he says hi, he'll take a picture.
And I love what he did recently.
I don't know if you've heard about that when he was walking in the red carpet with his wife and the children, and they were taking a picture, and after they took the whole family picture, like the paparazzi, the photographer was saying, like you look to his wife like okay, now you can get out of the picture, and she's like okay, so she, you know, following the rules whatever, she wants to step away from the picture, and he goes, no, no, no, that's my wife and.
She's staying in the picture. So she came back and he took the picture.
All his pictures were with his family, and I was like, what a guy like? What a man like? What a husband like? I fell in love even more with him.
Isn't that the main reason why he wants to live in Miami? First family?
Of course? I mean, how much more money does this guy want? Right?
Like, this is a guy who's like putting all this money aside and say, how much more money than I want?
My family's more important. Miami is the city.
I think her parents or his parents also live here and have an apartment actually down the street from me too, in Sunny Aisles, and they want to be here. And he's so young, he's going to have such an incredible future is going to continue to have it with the team team, and he's actually going to be owners.
They're going to give him ownership, and.
He has a Didus that's also going to give him a share and Apple.
He's going to make so so so much money, more than whatever they offered him in Saudi Arabia. Way more four hundred million they offered him, right, Yeah, four hundred million is that what they offered him.
Yeah.
But besides that, I don't think he wanted to play with his rival, Likeitiano Ronaldo's already there, Cristiano Ronaldo, so like for him, it was like, why would I want to play with my rival? He's always been his rival, and like, I don't need more money. He's thirty six years old, He's probably he.
Wants to be his own star and lead his own team.
Yes, and I think that he can do it. I am super proud.
I can't wait to see him around Miami and I know he's going to continue to be as nice and humble and sweet. I think it was the right decision obviously, That's why he did it for him and his family, and sometimes it's not all about the money.
Well, he's going.
To do real well with those deals because those deals are more than no.
Even financially, this makes more sense because he's going to have a stake in the team, so like, not only are you gonna play it, you're gonna own it. So that's that's pretty cool.
And yeah, well, how are people visiting from all over the world to watch Messi?
Miami is getting so crowded. There's a lot of celebrities living here. I think the celebrities also like to come here that I don't feel like the paparazzi. I mean, they're around, but they're not as invasive as they are in Europe.
I think, like in Europe.
Spain about that before we even Shakira.
Shakira is nown here in Miami because that's one of the reasons, obviously, because the proparazzi are literally they live outside your house. There's no privacy. It's all about getting that picture getting into the Ola magazine, and it's really really becomes tiresome.
I think he just didn't want it.
He was done with Europe, you know, he was done with Europe and he had you know, a great career over there, and I think in Miami or in like the States, you know, maybe not Hollywood or California. But I feel like here in Miami we're not there yet. We're not there yet.
I'm not going to say that five.
Years from today or ten years from now that you know, we won't be that city. Because of the amount of celebrities that we have here, there's going to be you know, papazzing outside.
We go to La a lot.
It's not that bad, you know, the places where they're hanging out and the places where they're not.
It's not that horrible, no.
But it is.
I mean as far as that goes, yes, but if they know where your home is, how do you control that?
New York's I think it's worse.
Well, hopefully Miami won't become that because I love our city to be you know, chill, and I love you know, for people to be able to you know, to have a life. I mean it's already hard enough, you know what they do. I mean, he's really an athlete, Like who cares if he's like coming out of his house, you know, with his wife or his kids.
I mean, unless he's doing something he shouldn't be doing and that's the picture. But if he's always with his family.
And unfortunately that's what people want to see to get in trouble. He's a he's a great guy.
I was just watching the Anna Nicole Smith documentary on Netflix, and there was a she would constantly bash her mother and say that she had a very abusive upbringing, but apparently she didn't, and she told her mother would be like, Anna, why do you say those things? And she said, because nobody wants to hear good news. They love the bad news. They love to know that things are going wrong in your life. And I make more money if people know things are going wrong in my life than if they're going great.
So that's very sad. It is very that's very sad.
But unfortunately we know that's true because yeah, because we know, because we know, just take it from us. We know, right, And even though we want the world to be a better place and we're always you know, obviously encouraging not talking about all those things, I feel like secretly people don't wish you well and don't want to see I mean, I can't speak for everybody, obviously, but you know, I think in general, you know, even though we've made so much progress and so many issues social issues, I think that we still live in a world with with you know, a lot of hate and unacceptance. But yeah, here in our city, we want to focus on the good and people loving Miami.
And I know you and I do. I don't know about everybody else, but I know you not.
But coming to have a family, you know, I think it's you know, Shakira came to raise her kids here with her both you know, young children, so you know, I mean, I know Miami scene as like a party city, you know, and it is. We have that too, But I think it's really great like families like Shakira and like a MESSI you know, to come David Beckham and his family, you know, they also have children. You know. I think that that's a very positive thing for our city. And I'm very to have all those amazing families here.
Yeah, I'm very excited about that. Yeah, and this boy is going to make a lot of mine. This is actually a better offer than what he was getting.
Oh yeah, for sure. Well that's why he did it.
Just the Adidas deal. I mean, if they're giving him a percentage, Look how much Michael Jordan makes a year of Nike, you know, how much he makes a year?
Four hundred million hopefully Messi's mom is negotiating the deal too, just like Michael's mom did.
That would be great, that's the same money.
Well, no, his mammy had Intena.
His mom's nott in Dina, so she's probably a good negotiator too.
Yeah, the deal.
And by the way, Adidas needs to need like somebody like Messy because you know, wasn't it Kanye that was like associated with Adidas and the Easies and all that scandal before.
So they need to get back to athletics and get out of fashion for a bit.
Yeah, I agree, I agree.
Well, talking about Kanye, yeah, we're not going to talk about certain things other people like to talk about him because I actually like him too.
He's a little bit of an enigma to me.
He is, but that's you know, that's that's that's interesting, right, Yeah, that he himself doesn't know like who like who he is or how he is. But I'm happy that he's found some you know, happiness and peace. That looks like with his with his new wife.
Right, doesn't he seem calmer?
He does, or quieter, or he retreated or he just I don't know, or maybe he just got a big spanking from life and he needs to go away for a little bit and recalibrate.
Yeah, I mean it's hard to get you know, it's easy, Actually not hard, it's easily.
Is it easy?
And no, it's easy. Well, you want to get caught up and that, you know, especially when you were married to Kim Kardashian and and I lived that kind of life. You know, I can't even imagine. And he got so sucked up in it. And I'm very happy to see that he's, you know, found some peace. Yeah, he looks like and a woman, because you know, sometimes a woman can take you to hell, or a good woman can actually bring you some peace and stability in your life.
He must be creating something good because he's very quiet.
I hope so.
And because they took away a lot of his money or he lost a lot of his money, so he needs to replace it.
Mm hmmm. Yeah, he needs to recalibrate for sure.
But you know, I'm happy that he's around with now North. You know, that's what I've been reading that. You know, North spent the week and for his forty sixth birthday that he got to celebrate with his wife and North his daughter was there and she seemed very like loving with his new wife, Bianca. So you know, I'm always happy to see that because I know, as a parent it's very important for your children to love who you're with, and I'm sure it's important, you know, for the children to feel loved by whoever your mom or daughter are with. So I was very happy to see that. How do you feel about that?
We all know I have no children of my own, but I was brought into a family through my new husband and my new relationship where he had his own sons, step kids, and I met them very quickly, like within the month of us dating, I met them, and within two months we were already on a Thanksgiving vacation cruise together, you know, remember on the boat in the Bahamas. And you know what, what I what I find from them is that they love me because they see Steve's happy and Steve loves me, and that makes them happy and that's all they.
Care about, right Serry. Stepsons are older, sometimes the kids are younger teenage, and they really don't have a voice or don't have a choice. But you know, I feel like it's not so much how long does it take or what's the right amount of time. I think it's more like it should be the right person, right Like for example, like sometimes you're dating or getting to know someone, but you kind of know it's not that guy or it's not that girl. I don't think you should bring your kids around, you know. I feel like you need to have something more solid. You have to be more like you have to know before because you mean, the kids get attached to these people and you don't want to see like you know your mom or dad right like switching partners every three or four months. Oh by the way, this is my new boyfriend or new girlfriend. At any age, it doesn't matter whether you're a little kid or you're an adult.
Oh my god.
It's it's difficult because you get attached obviously, and I me, you know, my parents were married until they died, but I can imagine that the attachment and then the severing of that is very difficult. And it's up to the parent to decide if this is the right time or not. So, you know, it's a difficult call to pick a time frame when it's the right time. Because some people pretend to be great and you think you're doing amazing with them. In a few years down the road, they're a totally different person and you get blindsided and that things don't work out.
So every situation, I mean, I think.
That some people overthink it, and those are the people that take forever to kind of like bring, you know, to introduce their kids to their partners. And then I think that some other people, you know, men or women, could just be very quick and even without thinking about it, they're like, oh, meet my kids. Right, So I think it's something that's.
Personal, you know, I think it's obviously it's something that's.
Very personal, and you kind of have to know whether it's worth it or not or like, yeah, this is the person that I can see myself, you know, and at least the rest of the year and the holidays and all this, so you know, it's a good time you guys meet and other times, you know, when it's not that person, I.
Think you should keep your kids away.
It's unnecessary, Like you're the one that's in the relationship with the matter of woman, like, not your kids, So you need to take your time.
And Pete is I mean, listen to me, Pete, you're talking David Pete Davidson, Well, she's an kid. Yeah, she brought North around him at six well, I don't know when she brought him around, but the first photos came out after six months. Kanye is allegedly married to this woman, but not legally, so she's a wife.
I don't know.
They're all they want to already discussed about the legality of things. You know, a piece of paper doesn't really change things. But if you're with this person, and obviously he is, she's been in his life for you said a year or two, I mean, that's that's important in Kanye's life.
So I think it's important, you know.
So imagine he's having a birthday party and he can't invite his kids because you know, you don't want your kids around this person I'm with. I think it's important because as a parent, you want your kids to like and love and respect the person that you're with. And even though North is still a very young child, she knows what's going on. You know, it's not like what we were growing up, MADDI like, nowadays, these kids know everything. I mean, you think North isn't reading about these things. Yeah, you know, it wasn't like when we were growing up that our parents were going to talk certain things.
Have big ears. I heard that so much.
Go to your room. Everything was like so I never really heard like adult conversation when I was growing up, you know, unless it was like my mistake, I wasn't supposed to hear it. But nowadays, I feel like the kids are always around and they have so much information.
Well they know that you would remember because you remember everything. They're like, get Alexia, how are you're just gonna remember everything was.
Talking about got out twenty years from no no, but the thing is exactly no.
But the thing no. Back then it was just like a different preventing style.
But I feel like today, you know, the parents do want to involve the children and everything, and the children like have a say and have an opinion, and you want to take your you know, your children's you know, feelings into consideration. But again, you know, I mean, who am I to say or you right? Like when is it?
How?
When is the right time? Nobody has an answer. It has to be right for you. And that's why it has to be right for you, guys, to make sense for you.
Absolutely.
I remember in Hollywood it's not like they live, you know, like they stay together like for such a long time. So it's like if you don't introduce them soon you may never meet them again.
Well, in that family, definitely, they keep they keep recycling quickly.
But I feel like other people like it have gone like that, that same critique.
You know.
I think Jennifer Lopez is another one that you know always, you know, brings her children, you know, into all her relationships. But if you want to see the good in it, there's going to be a good argument and a bad argument. So like, is it mentally healthy psychologically for the child you know, to see this and to introduce them to or is it because she's such a good mother she wants to like embrace her family and she wants to bring the kids in and she wants to make sure like everybody gets along and do the blended family thing. I mean, it's something that's really personal and you just have to know yourself, right. I mean, I don't know about psychologists or anybody in the mental health thing, like it's it's been proven right or there's like research to back this up.
I don't mean Nancy for that, because she would have had the research.
Well, my alm was married and divorced sometimes, so I met I met a lot of guys, how but you know, yeah, so so it depends, you know, Like again, I mean she'd try to hide those.
She did, but you would find out. Yeah, that's why she'd send you to Quarto. Oh yeah what.
I and like, look, I don't even know what the hell I would have done. For God's sake? How many times have I rushed into a relationship? Thank God I didn't have kids. Who knows what I would have put them through. Meet this, well, meet that one. I love this one, I love that one. They would have hated me. They would have been very confused.
Right, Like I can only speak like you know about me, you know, like having my kids, and sometimes you're in a relationship with the guy, and then it's important to know whether the guy is going to be accept of your of your children, and it's going to be loving and it's you know, because that's you know, obviously for a mom, a very important trait that Narayana has to have. So if the man doesn't like children and he doesn't like to be around children, it's kind of like in the beginning you can kind of you know, understand that and say, you know what, then you're.
Not has that ever happened to you?
Have you ever noticed someone that you thought this isn't good for my kids or this guy.
No.
I mean I was lucky enough that, you know, after the dad I had.
Herman that was super loving.
That's how he actually won me over because he was so loving with my kids. You know, he adored my kids, my kids, So I was very blessed with that. So to me, that's a deal breaker, Like you have to love my kids. You know, I come with the whole package, so you have to love.
Me and my kids.
And they were young, so it was easier, you know in a way. I mean they were kind of hard with Herman by the way.
They were so little, they were hard. They were so little for they were.
Hard that age. They only want you to be with their daddy. Yeah, they only want you to be with their dad. Remember, So that's how it is. And then you know, I was like so involved.
You know. They always, you know, small children always think that whoever comes it's going to take that love away from them, and it's going to like take their mom and dad for them or that. So you know, that's what they think when they're little, and you know, as they get older there's different issues, you know, but but.
Yeah, you know, it's just like working through them.
But I think, you know, as a mother and even as a father Americ only speak, I'm sure the man wants the same thing. You know, the man wants to know that he's with a woman if she doesn't come with kids and he has kids, that is going to be accepting of his kids, and it's going to include them, and he's going to love them. And you know, you're not there to replace their mother or father, but you're there to be their friends and to support them.
And that's what I do to love.
I just try to be like a friend, a big sister. I'm not here to teach anybody anything. Just remind them it's Father's Day, which by the way, is coming up. And I reminded them five times it's Father's Day. Don't forget about Father's Day.
Yeah, I mean, that's that's all we can do.
They have a mom and they have a dad that raised them. And my step kids are so nice, and so asked him that maybe I shouldn't. I definitely shouldn't get involved because I dont want to mess them up because they're perfect.
Well, I mean, that's good. That made it easier for you.
Then I was lucky. I got very lucky.
Well, hopefully Kanye will get lucky and and you know all of his kids will love you know, whoever he's with. I mean, I know he's married to this woman now or whoever may be, because as a parent, I know that we we always want that.
Yeah, I think he seems good. I think he seems calm.
Speaking of parents, can you believe Aino is going to be a dad.
Him?
No?
No, no, I mean I didn't even think you could still like have.
That, you know what I mean, Bro, he has a super sperm.
That guy is like, I know you could still, but you.
Know how full of himself he is right now?
I know even saw a baby, but I didn't think it was still like sexually active like that.
And his girlfriend's like what twenty nine.
There's something called viagara. Okay, so this is not fair? Okay, So I know how he can you know, how he can have sex with her because obviously there's viagraas I know, they are like stimulants for him and he can get harder and he can do it. But what about her, well, I mean, well apparently she.
Was with like make Jacker before, so she's got like I love, I'm hot for daddy vibes.
Well, I mean she justinitely had daddy issues.
She actually she's hot for Grandpa.
Yeah, it's not even daddy.
It's kind of like a Willie though, like a whelo. She has like a willow complexes. Where's her grandfather?
Please?
And I just think it's gross, honestly because the it's age difference is so significant. It's so large and like, don't want to compare. Oh, well there's you know, there's fifteen twenty years. Bro, this is a lot. This is two too many years and to the point that it's gross.
Do you think they planned it?
No, he didn't even know himself that he can impregnate a woman. Think he thought he had done some treatments in Yes, so he himself. That's why he questioned it. And she had the praternity test because he didn't know. Obviously they were having sex, but he didn't know he could get her pregnant, so she had the you know, the testing or said he was the father. So now the guy Cloud nine, he's like, oh, it's super sperm. I made this happen. I'm eighty three years old.
But he's gonna be the hit at the nursing home. Hey, I can make anybody.
I'm baby.
Yeah, that guy's never going to see a nursing home. Dude, he's going out with twenty nine year olds. The guy's never going to see a nursing home. He's you know, a nursing home is going to be like at a girls club, like at a teenager's.
Club, he's gonna die.
And the strips a little bit too much.
He's gonna die at the strip club.
No, I mean, I don't know.
I mean, truthfully, I know everybody's been talking about this for you, like what's an age difference? Like do you see anything wrong? And like having this age difference?
Is it just me? Like how do you feel about it?
So, like we said, is it something emotional? Is she won't have like grandpa shoes? Like I don't know, it's just.
Like why you have those kinds of issues.
Yeah, you need to go see other something.
I mean, I know most women in their twenties want a hot young guy.
Mahina HiPE ye hoy, oh my god, the balls to the knees.
That's not cute.
Yeah yeah, I can't.
I mean, let's be honest. She was with Mick Jagger before, and he's in his seventies that's like I think.
She sets these guys up. I mean, it's not like I mean anybody could be I get it. You know, you know these are like legends. You know, I'm not saying that it's anybody. She must have like some psychological thing, like I don't care who they are. Obviously she's she's okay with that old and you know, I just want to have the attention. You know, some people are like have these problems that they just want that kind of attention. They don't care whether it's good or bad, negative or positive. They just want to be talked about. This must be one of these instances. And she figures, you know what, I'm twenty nine, you know, I have a baby with this guy, and and he'll be the heir or errors of this fortune empire. And you know what, your dad's al Pacino. I just I just how does she even know who a Pacino was? I don't even think she was born when he was when his movies were like playing on the screen.
Maybe Mick Jagger told her about him, and then she's like, that's my next move.
Who knows. All I can say is that I feel bad. I think it's irresponsible to have a child.
I think it's selfish, yes, because let's be honest, what has he got five seven, eight years left?
Ten max nineties?
It's hard, No, but he cannot be a great dad to run around and play football and do all those things.
And okay, you know, I guess what. There's an argument. There's also an argument. I mean, a great dad doesn't make you just because you run around and throw a ball.
But what I'm trying to say is.
Even being aparent, when you get older, you lose your coherence.
Well, I think he's not coherent right now. I mean that this is why he was able to do this. Like what coherent man? You can go out with a twenty nine year old? Like, what are you talking about? She on tiktoking, showing them the tiktoks. I mean, what does a twenty nine year old have to talk about? At this point? Anything is possible. But the fact, like, I don't think he must be like one hundred percent when you know you can even have a conversation, that's what somebody you're going to have.
A baby when you're not one hundred percent. It's like it's we both have parents that got older. We know how it is.
The decline is strong to have a baby, like, you're just not going to be able to be a great parent.
Right, It's like I think, I mean, the age difference is already, you know, really really significant between them. I can't even imagine what they talk about, what they you know, their dynamics or anything like that, but having a child.
They have a fifty four year age gap.
The couple that has the largest the most amount of years, like in Hollywood, I want to say, because I'm sure there's other couples. I mean, I haven't looked that up in a Guinness World Record Book or whatever.
I don't know. But Anthony Quinn had his thirteenth child old when he was eighty six.
I'm still he's trying to beat him.
And what about wholi Les's father? What about do you remember Huli Las's father. He was a doctor.
He also repregnated a woman and he was like eighty something years old. Actually was going to look it up and I forgot.
There's a few of them out there. Yeah, there's a few of them doing Yeah.
By the way, we live in Miami that we see this all the time, so we're used to the significant age gap. Yeah, yeah, I mean we go here, we go out of all marathon, and we see a lot of super old men with very young women.
That it just doesn't make any sense.
You know, obviously, they probably have a lot of money, because there's no other reason why any of these women, you know, would want to be in a relationship with somebody that's thirty, forty fifty. But in this particular case, al Pacino's girlfriend, her family is very wealthy supposedly, so you know, they're they're kind of saying, like, well, it's not really because of the money, because obviously that's the first thing that people think. But I think she's psychological problems, which you know, is even because she has some kind of needs that she needs.
To it's definitely psychologic. It's definitely psychological.
For me, it is as well.
And then you see Robert de Niro that did the same thing a little younger. He had a child when he was seventy nine and his wife was forty five plus.
Fantastic better they have a smaller age gap, right, thirty year age gap thirty.
That's okay, And you know, I feel like a woman that's forty five, don't you think, you know, has a little bit more understanding life that has a little bit more wisdom and experience than a twenty nine year old. Yes, definitely imagine her parents, like her parents are younger, way younger than al Pacino. Yeah, I know, but you know, at this point, you know, some people, you know, I'm sure her parents are saying, well, it doesn't matter because it's al Pacino, you know, and not too many people can say that, but in their defense, I'm going to say something like in their defense, so for example, like you know, people will be saying, well, you know, he's you know, it's really selfish and consider it because you know that the child is not going to have their dad for a long time. But then again, there's a lot of children that are brought into this world that don't have their dad around for a long time either. So like nothing is guaranteed, you know, I just hope that the time that he is alive, he is a good father and he gives the baby a lot of love and that she continues to do it, because it's you know, those years that counts, so hopefully he'll be healthy enough. But you know, that could be his argument as well, like, you know what, I'm bringing this baby into life with a lot of love, and I want this baby and I'm going to give it as much love and nurture and support that I can, and so the day I'm not here, But nothing is guaranteed. There's a lot of young men that die as fathers and or their fathers, you know, to their baby absolutely, or that they get divorced and they never take care of their babies.
They all have a bunch of brothers and sisters that are going to be their family. They have young mothers that will be their family. And they have a lot of clips and a bit of money and clips and movies to watch and see who they were when they were young, middle age and older.
And I relish that's what she's probably doing what she wanted chects with him. She's probably thinking of Scarface A Patino, say hello to your little friend.
I love.
One of the greatest things and gifts that I have is the footage I have with my mother on the show, because I can see her alive again and it's great. And so they're gonna have hopefully they're a lot of brothers and sisters. They have grandchildren, so their babies are gonna be uncles and aunts to the kids too.
They have big families.
I mean me as a baby, I would ask my mom, mom, how did this happen? Like the babies can have a lot of questions because well, you're baby, grow up to be baby, young woman, and she's gonna say, mom, how did you like fall in love with my dad that was eighty three years old?
Oh my god, I don't right, I don't know.
I'm sure she has.
I'm sure she has, you know, really good reasons why she fell in love with him. So whatever, I mean, not even know they're in love or not.
I was gonna say, way, don't know if there's love there. We just know there's baby.
Well, how did you have sex with my dad?
Mom?
And now they're going to be aunts and uncles to their father's grandchildren that are actually older than them. That's confusing.
I don't know that you're getting a little bit so they confusing.
I know our Virginia has grandchildren. I'm not sure if al Pacino does.
Yeah, yes, seven children, right, but he has seven.
Here's also a grandfather, so the new baby will be an auntie, a younger auntie to his grandchildren.
That's confusing.
Yeah, well al Pacino has four and his oldest is thirty three, which isn't that old because I mean I have a thirty one year old son, so he had children later on in life. You know, these men from Hollywood and their actors, you know, I feel like they all have these inflated egos, you know, and they think that every woman in the world, any age, wants to be with him. And guess what, they're right. That's how we found this one.
They're keeping their virility alive. It's their legacy, their virility. Look at me, I went out. I will never forget Anthony Quinn. I remember when I was in my twenties, I'm like, this eighty year old man is having another child who doesn't And when you're in your twenties eighties is like so old. My grandparents died in their eighties.
By the way, it's still old for me. Yeah, come on, I mean I won't even like, no, I can only speak from myself. At my age, I don't even see that happening.
So it's like, I mean, it is like we're going to go pick up and start dating in a nursing home, because that's apparently what this is starting to look like.
Well, welcome to the world, Welcome to Hollywood.
Welcome to Miami, because we have the problem here in Miami as well. I think where there's money and fame, there's always you know, availability. Oh yeah one of my friends.
Oh yeah, as my friend.
This was great. I could talk with you for hours. I'm sure we're going to hang up and talk like we usually do.
Mm hmmm, yes, because we know we don't have enough time to talk and we can just sit here and talk all day long about age difference, about children, about family, about.
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