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People modify their bodies all the time. A piercing here, a tattoo there… But what if you took it to the extreme, and reshaped yourself into something mythical?

Meet two people who use body modifications to turn themselves into dragons.

Related episodes:
Change Of Art: Stories About Tattoo Coverups
Retired CIA Chief of Disguise Jonna Mendez on magic, technology and the art of deception
(Almost) Everybody Hurts: An Exploration of Pain
Going Flat, or Building New Breasts: Two Women’s Post-Mastectomy Stories
Hearing every color, feeling every earthquake: Life as a cyborg

GUESTS: 
Legion the Dragon: Based in Los Angeles, and legally known as Tiamat Legion Medusa, he describes his transformation into a dragon as a metamorphosis 
Burns the Dragon: Also known as Josh Burns, he is a Vancouver-based performance artist 

People modify their bodies all the time. A piercing here, a tattoo there… But what if you took it to the extreme, and reshaped yourself into something mythical?
Meet two people who use body modifications to turn themselves into dragons.
Related episodes:
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.ctpublic.org/arts-and-culture/2020-08-28/change-of-art-stories-about-tattoo-coverups" data-cms-ai="0">Change Of Art: Stories About Tattoo Coverups</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.ctpublic.org/show/audacious-with-chion-wolf/2024-03-07/retired-cia-chief-of-disguise-jonna-mendez-on-magic-technology-and-the-art-of-deception" data-cms-ai="0">Retired CIA Chief of Disguise Jonna Mendez on magic, technology and the art of deception</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.ctpublic.org/health/2020-10-16/almost-everybody-hurts-an-exploration-of-pain" data-cms-ai="0">(Almost) Everybody Hurts: An Exploration of Pain</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.ctpublic.org/health/2020-06-26/going-flat-or-building-new-breasts-two-womens-post-mastectomy-stories" data-cms-ai="0">Going Flat, or Building New Breasts: Two Women’s Post-Mastectomy Stories</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.ctpublic.org/show/audacious-with-chion-wolf/2023-09-13/hearing-every-color-feeling-every-earthquake-life-as-a-cyborg" data-cms-ai="0">Hearing every color, feeling every earthquake: Life as a cyborg</a></li>
</ul>
GUESTS: 
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@legion.the.reptil4" data-cms-ai="0">Legion the Dragon</a>: Based in Los Angeles, and legally known as Tiamat Legion Medusa, he describes his transformation into a dragon as a metamorphosis </li>
<li><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@vancouver_silverman" data-cms-ai="0">Burns the Dragon</a>: Also known as Josh Burns, he is a Vancouver-based performance artist </li>
</ul>

Audacious with Chion Wolf will highlight the uncommon experiences of everyday people – asking the hardest, most uncomfortable questions. With curiosity and compassion, Connecticut Public producer and host Chion Wolf digs deeper, encouraging listeners to ask hard questions in their own lives.

Find out more at https://www.ctpublic.org/audacious

Audacious with Chion Wolf will highlight the uncommon experiences of everyday people – asking the hardest, most uncomfortable questions. With curiosity and compassion, Connecticut Public producer and host Chion Wolf digs deeper, encouraging listeners to ask hard questions in their own lives.
Find out more at https://www.ctpublic.org/audacious

Audacious with Chion Wolf

Audacious with Chion Wolf will highlight the uncommon experiences of everyday people – asking the hardest, most uncomfortable questions. With curiosity and compassion, Connecticut Public producer and host Chion Wolf digs deeper, encouraging listeners to ask hard questions in their own lives.

Find out more at ctpublic.org/audacious

Audacious with Chion Wolf will highlight the uncommon experiences of everyday people – asking the hardest, most uncomfortable questions. With curiosity and compassion, Connecticut Public producer and host Chion Wolf digs deeper, encouraging listeners to ask hard questions in their own lives.
Find out more at <a href="https://www.ctpublic.org/show/audacious-with-chion-wolf/about">ctpublic.org/audacious</a>

Conversations with two dragons

Enjoy our ode to farts!

Meet researchers who made a New York Times bestselling book series about the various ways that animals fart; A man who is internationally known for being a hand farter, (also called a “manualist“); And another person who was born without an anus and went on to make a living off of his ability to fart extensively on-command! Which he will absolutely do for us in this episode.

GUESTS: 
Dani Rabaiotti and Nick Caruso: Researchers who created a spreadsheet listing what we know about which animals do and do not fart, and which remain a mystery. It was later turned into a book series beginning with Does It Fart? The definitive field guide to animal flatulence, and the kids book, Does It Fart?: A Kid's Guide to the Gas Animals Pass
Guy First: A musician who plays music by making farting noises with his hands, featured on Britain's Got Talent. He is joined by his wife, Yaara
Will Bakey a.k.a “Will the Farter”: Born without an anus, he later became able to fart on-command. Featured on the Howard Stern Show, Jackass 3D, and Cameo. He is joined by his girlfriend, Aislinn.

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Enjoy our ode to farts!
Meet researchers who made a New York Times bestselling book series about the various ways that animals fart; A man who is internationally known for being a hand farter, (also called a “manualist“); And another person who was born without an anus and went on to make a living off of his ability to fart extensively on-command! Which he will absolutely do for us in this episode.
GUESTS: 
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.zsl.org/about-zsl/our-people/dr-daniella-rabaiotti" data-cms-ai="0">Dani Rabaiotti</a> and <a href="https://carusonm.weebly.com/about-me.html" data-cms-ai="0">Nick Caruso</a>: Researchers who created a <a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19gMMn4Wmw3BNLWMojEy7kgrjnjVB2JlMSwd1s-nYyUc/edit#gid=0%C2%A0" data-cms-ai="0">spreadsheet</a> listing what we know about which animals do and do not fart, and which remain a mystery. It was later turned into a book series beginning with <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Does-Fart-Definitive-Animal-Flatulence/dp/1786488264" data-cms-ai="0">Does It Fart? The definitive field guide to animal flatulence</a>, and the kids book, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Does-Fart-Kids-Guide-Animals/dp/0316491047" data-cms-ai="0">Does It Fart?: A Kid's Guide to the Gas Animals Pass</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.guyfirst.com/%C2%A0" data-cms-ai="0">Guy First</a>: A musician who plays music by making farting noises with his hands, featured on Britain's Got Talent. He is joined by his wife, Yaara</li>
<li><a href="https://willthefarter.com/" data-cms-ai="0">Will Bakey a.k.a “Will the Farter”</a>: Born without an anus, he later became able to fart on-command. Featured on the Howard Stern Show, Jackass 3D, and <a href="https://www.cameo.com/willthefarter" data-cms-ai="0">Cameo</a>. He is joined by his girlfriend, Aislinn.</li>
</ul>

For the love of farts! From animal biology to musical mastery

Back in the day — with your Walter Cronkites and David Brinkleys — it felt kind ofinappropriate for an interviewer to bring their full selves to the conversation. It was all about the guest, after all, so why bother bringing their own distinctive flairs?

But now, people tune in as much for the interviewer as the one being interviewed. And because of that, the experience feels much more authentic!

So today, you'll get to know three masters of the craft who each have their own distinct, but oh so compelling styles of asking tough, thought-provoking questions.

EXTENDED INTERVIEWS:
Mehdi Hasan
Ziwe
Gayle King

This episode originally aired on October 14th, 2023.

GUESTS: 
Mehdi Hasan: Editor-in-chief and CEO of Zeteo. His latest book is called Win Every Argument: The Art of Debating, Persuading, and Public Speaking
Ziwe: Comedian, writer, actor, executive producer and star of ZIWE on Showtime. She is also known for her web series, Baited. Her book is called Black Friend: Essays
Gayle King: Co-host of CBS This Morning, and editor-at-large of O, the Oprah Magazine. She is also the curator of the book, Note to Self: Inspiring Words From Inspiring People

Back in the day — with your Walter Cronkites and David Brinkleys — it felt kind of inappropriate for an interviewer to bring their full selves to the conversation. It was all about the guest, after all, so why bother bringing their own distinctive flairs?
But now, people tune in as much for the interviewer as the one being interviewed. And because of that, the experience feels much more authentic!
So today, you'll get to know three masters of the craft who each have their own distinct, but oh so compelling styles of asking tough, thought-provoking questions.
EXTENDED INTERVIEWS:
<ul>
<li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/bonus-extended-conversation-with-mehdi-hasan/id1516288973?i=1000631245672" data-cms-ai="0">Mehdi Hasan</a></li>
<li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/bonus-extended-conversation-with-ziwe/id1516288973?i=1000631243796" data-cms-ai="0">Ziwe</a></li>
<li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/bonus-extended-conversation-with-gayle-king/id1516288973?i=1000631243927" data-cms-ai="0">Gayle King</a></li>
</ul>
This episode originally aired on October 14th, 2023.
GUESTS: 
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.msnbc.com/mehdi-hasan" data-cms-ai="0">Mehdi Hasan</a>: Editor-in-chief and CEO of <a href="https://zeteo.com/" data-cms-ai="0">Zeteo</a>. His latest book is called <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Win-Every-Argument-Debating-Persuading/dp/1250853478%C2%A0" data-cms-ai="0">Win Every Argument: The Art of Debating, Persuading, and Public Speaking</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ziwe.com/" data-cms-ai="0">Ziwe</a>: Comedian, writer, actor, executive producer and star of <a href="https://www.sho.com/ziwe" data-cms-ai="0">ZIWE</a> on Showtime. She is also known for her web series, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Season-1/dp/B0759Y51RM#:~:text=Watch%20Season%201%20%7C%20Prime%20Video" data-cms-ai="0">Baited</a>. Her book is called <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Book-Ziwe-Fumudoh-ebook/dp/B08WJT6M3Q%C2%A0" data-cms-ai="0">Black Friend: Essays</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.cbs.com/shows/cbs-mornings/cast/216503/%C2%A0" data-cms-ai="0">Gayle King</a>: Co-host of CBS This Morning, and editor-at-large of O, the Oprah Magazine. She is also the curator of the book, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Note-Self-Inspiring-Words-People/dp/198210208X" data-cms-ai="0">Note to Self: Inspiring Words From Inspiring People</a></li>
</ul>

Behind the mic: Gayle King, Ziwe, and Mehdi Hasan on the art of the interview

Jayson Greene’s daughter, Greta, died in 2015 when she was two years old. She was sitting on a bench with her grandma on the Upper West Side of Manhattan when a brick fell from a building and struck her in the head.

Now, nine years later, how would Jayson describe Greta’s presence in his life?Hear his reflections on life after unimaginable tragedy, and how much he appreciates the people that showed up for him and his family.

Related episode:
Views from the end: David Meyers

GUESTS: 
Jayson Greene: a writer and editor based in Brooklyn. He is the author of Once More We Saw Stars, a memoir about dealing with the sudden and tragic death of his two-year-old daughter, Greta, in 2015 

Jayson Greene’s daughter, Greta, died in 2015 when she was two years old. She was sitting on a bench with her grandma on the Upper West Side of Manhattan when a brick fell from a building and struck her in the head.
Now, nine years later, how would Jayson describe Greta’s presence in his life? Hear his reflections on life after unimaginable tragedy, and how much he appreciates the people that showed up for him and his family.
Related episode:
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.ctpublic.org/show/audacious-with-chion-wolf/2023-07-27/views-from-the-end-david-meyers" data-cms-ai="0">Views from the end: David Meyers</a></li>
</ul>
GUESTS: 
<ul>
<li>Jayson Greene: a writer and editor based in Brooklyn. He is the author of <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Once-More-We-Saw-Stars/dp/1524733539?ref_=ast_author_dp">Once More We Saw Stars</a>, a memoir about dealing with the sudden and tragic death of his two-year-old daughter, Greta, in 2015 </li>
</ul>

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