Hey there! This is the VERY much extended conversation that Chion had with the writer Athena Walker. She's got over 40,000 followers on Quora, where she talks about what it's like being a clinically diagnosed psychopath.

Please do check out the original episode posted just before this one, which also includes our conversation with Dr. James H Fallon.

He's a neuroscientist studying psychopathic killers, who found out via a brain scan that he IS one. Well not a killer, but a psychopath.

And that's something that comes up a lot in these conversations! The idea that just because you're a psychopath, that you are violent - this is not necessarily true. And it is one of so many things we often get wrong about psychopaths, and Athena is here to lovingly - well maybe not lovingly, but willingly - correct us.