Hour 3 of A&G features...
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty Armstrong, and Getty, en He Armstrong and Yetty.
Vice President Harris traveled to the southern border, where she attacked Trump for his role in preventing a congressional border deal. But it didn't look good that during her speech, thirty migrants snuck in behind her, and even worse, she handed every one of them a voter registration.
I like that joke.
That is some pointed humor right there from the infamously left SNL.
Yeah, I liked that a lot. I was pleased SNL back for their fiftieth season. I find it enjoyable. Many of you do not. So I wish this weren't true living in California. Well, I wish that weren't true. I wish I didn't live in California. But I wish it weren't true that the policies California sets around all kinds of different things often ends up being the policy for other states or the whole country. You know, you know, cars, emissions, just all kinds of different things. But on Ai, so a bill had passed through the ridiculous one party government in California to AI. It was going to be the strictest, most comprehensive regulation of AI yet anywhere in the country, really anywhere in the world, and they were hoping it would set to stage four AI policies across the nation and perhaps the planet before it really gets up and running. Elon Musk was a big proponent of it. Yes, Signic GAVINUSM Yes, Signic Gavin Newsom. According to The New York Times, a flurry of lobbyists descended on Gavin Newsom's office in recent weeks, hitting them with all kinds of different things, and I'm sure lots of people getting paid all kinds of different money. And Gavin Newsom vetoed this bill. I agree with him, but quite possibly not for the reasons that he's stating. He maybe just got lobbied to the point and anti Pelosi.
That's a nod position for both of us to be disagreeing with Elon Musk and agreeing with Gavin Newsom. But the bill, as briefly described sure strikes me as just the worst sort of California pie in the sky, isn't.
Oh Yeah, The first of its kind bill required safety testing of large AI systems or models before the release to the public, which they said would cost gazillions of dollars. And like there's no standard. I mean, how do we meet your standard of safety?
Yeah, go ahead, do that? Do that sign in China and North Korea? Well, rightly, everybody else?
Right Thirty of the most respected fifty AI companies in the world, thirty of them are in California and most of the rest of them are in the United States. But yeah, while China and rushing, everybody else screams towards AI and who gets it first is gonna matter a lot. We would be handcuffing our companies by making them reach some sort of safety model that a bunch of politicians came up with, even though nobody is exactly sure what AI gonna be able to do and not do in the near future.
Meanwhile, the Chinese AI powered death bots spread out across the landscape, leaving a sea of blood in their wake.
Sea of blood. Oh, my son and I talk about this constantly. He's scared the death of AI, Like he can't get like he can't get to sleep at night. I know, Oh no, And it's like the poor kids with their climate anxiety. I know, and I try to talk him out of it all the time. They're gonna have robots trying to kill us, And I say, what would be the motivation of AI to want to kill us so they could have more money or stuff. AI is not gonna care about money, so anyway, that's the argument.
You need to harvest our bones to power their death machines.
Here's the part of them that I think it was the worst. It also gave the state of California's attorney general the right to sue companies over harm caused by AI, like to individuals or companies or whatever.
There is actually an hilarious lawsuit going on right now. The Attorney General of California is named Rob Bonta, and he's a crook and a fraud and a liar. And I almost said something really unfortunate, but just use your own favorite epithet.
You can play along at home anyway.
So this piece of garbage is Wow Exxon, because that was the general version suing Exon because Exxon had misled California into thinking recycling actually works. But they'd misled California kill for you. Meanwhile, all the stupid recycling laws where you put your crap in four different bins and then it all goes to the landfill. All that stuff is still in a fact, even the rob BoNT is trying to sue X on next.
One, It's like, are you suing us? Some of it's recycled, well, some of it's not. There's not a market for it. What do you want us to do about it? So?
Yeah, given a fraud like Bonta or his ilk the right to sue for the ill effects of AI, you want to talk about a never ending well of litigation. Ah, the try lawyers, that's who wanted this. Oh, it would be never ending.
It would be the you know, the high school kid who somebody makes an AI porn about, or celebrities voices or faces are being used, or politicians or some music or just endless, as you said, endless litigation. And it would it would It would handcuff the big companies and they just wouldn't be able to move forward again, while China and Russia and maybe even France they just scream forward with their AI and end up dominating the planet the way we have dominated the internet. The death bots, yes go on. Well even with out the death bots just we've been able to dominate computers, going back to Apple and Microsoft and the Internet and every Google and everything around all California or the United States. So we're gonna make it absolutely positively true that the next great technology, which could be bigger than the Internet, is led by someone else, whether it's Europe or an enemy.
So reminiscent of the meaningless gestures toward fighting climate change by choking the economy of the US and or California to death as a symbolic sacrifice. I guess as they build a new cold plant every week here, every day, whatever it is in China and India, is like, yeah, we got like six six hundred million starving people here, so yeah, we'll worry about climate change when they all are fed and clothes. So y'all, good luck. I am self imposed symbolic limitation. It just doesn't make any sense.
Well man, As I said, Elon Musk is a big proponent of this bill and is way more about AI than you know. I could even come close to every even slightly understanding, and I was surprised that he was for it. I think my guess would be he just wants some regulation of AI because currently there's not really any and he just wants to go that direction. But so, in addition to all the other things that I mentioned, it would mandate a kill switch that the companies need to have to turn off their AI systems in case of potential biowarfare, mass casual is r property damage, which nobody's sure if that's even possible to have a kill switch for AI once it gets up and going, so i'd be another thing. We would be handcuffing these companies try to invent something that might not even be doable. Yeah.
Yeah, I hate to be a defeatist or just let some of the negative aspects of the modern world wash over humanity without a fight, because I think we've been too place as a species and some of that stuff witnessed, social media, smartphone addiction, the rest of it. But I just I feel like, you know, those who at the dawn of the nuclear age were afraid that well countries would develop devastating weapons and that could kill millions of people at a time. And we've got to fight this, And there are a lot of folks who said, yeah, you're not gonna fight it. The history of mankind is everybody gets the best new weapons. Maybe it takes them a little longer than they would like, but they'll get them. I just I again, I don't want to be defeatists, but I see all these efforts to really rain in the bad stuff.
In AI as to be choking off the good stuff. Well yeah, and you know, thinking about the movie Oppenheimer, So imagine if this was all secret because we're in the midst of World War two. But imagine if it had been out in the open the way AI is, and a law comes along from California or wherever says no, no, no, no, sorry, mister Oppenheimer, no developing the nuclear weapon until you convince us that no harm could be done. And there's a kill switch in case you it's going to be used in a war we don't agree with or whatever else. And we just wouldn't have and Russia or Hitler would have gotten it first because we'd have had all these stupid regulations. Yeah, I don't. I don't know if there's anything any any hope other than being a defeatist in terms of trying to slow down AI. It's gonna happen, and I'd rather it's us than them the end. Is there a problem? Is there a flaw in that comparison. I'm racking my brain brain trying to figure out where it might be. It strikes me as a very, very similar thing. Yeah, I think so.
I mean because for all of the you know, vaunted promise of AI and freeing up all of our time to become poets and bad guitar players or whatever take take long walks in the woods, which sounds nice. It's also unquestionably like every technology potentially a weapon, and so there the parallel becomes a well, it's practically just an echo. It's another weapons system in the development. If we encumber it with too many limitations, the evildoers are going to get it.
I say, we get there as fast.
As we can and then deal with the perhaps horrendous.
You know outcomes. I just don't think there's any choice. Well, I promise not to bring it up again this show, but if it turns out to be bigger than the Internet, as what's his name Oran Google said, or bigger than the invention of fire, which he also said, yeah, good luck regulating that. We're going to regulate fire before hey, caveman, no, no, no, no, stop rubbing those sticks together before you invent fire. We need to have some solid rules here. Make sure it's never gonna be if a forest burns down, you're responsible, all right, you'll be on the hook for it. Well, I guess I want meat, raw meat, give me runs. I guess I will not fire. I guess I'll won't invent fire. Then if I'm going to be on the hook if there's ever a forest fire, right right, I think that's where we are. Unfortunately, Kevin Newsom did the right thing. I'm guessing for the wrong reasons, but I think he was on the right side of it.
If Kevin Newsom ever does the right thing, you can rest as shirt it's for the wrong reasons.
Awesome, he thought he was doing the wrong thing. He just screwed up. Coming up.
Young men are off the rails in America. Oh boy, disturbing.
Oh As a guy who's raising a couple of young men, some of it troubling over the weekend. I don't like this story, but it's true. And also this hour.
What does immigration actually do for a government's coffers? The good and the bad?
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A Senate report on the first Trump assassination attempt says one of the biggest issues were technical problems, including delays in emails after the sniper was spotted emails who sees an assassin and is like, I better open out.
Look.
Hey, sorry for the mass email, but there's a sniper on the roof. Please respond by end of day.
That was pretty good criticism right there.
That is another beautiful example of humor and what an effective tool it is.
Ah. Yeah, I don't even know how to.
File the knowledge we've gained from this episode about the astounding incompetence of the most competent looking organizations.
Sounds like bureaucracy disease that happens with all bureaucracies. Yes, yeah, I think you're right. Whether it's lives are on the line or not. It's just we come up with systems and protocols and it grows, and that's we all know.
We've all lived through it, and I'd like to think God is on our side, as all humans have throughout history.
But maybe God has looked down upon you.
And I jack our humble radio show Slash Podcast and said, boy, these boys are just working like crazy to convince people that bureaucracies always get worse and worse and more expensive and bloated and useless through time, and people are just not catching on. Let me think of an example that would be so crazy, so insane, an indictment of a bureaucracy, nobody.
Could ignore it.
Having a president the almighty cooked up this one because I think it fits that description. So on a totally different topic, and maybe we go big on this another time. But there are more and more amazing statistics that indicate that young men in America are falling even further behind the life trajectories of America's sons and daughters, diverging, according to the Wall Street General, presented with a more equal playing field, young women are seizing the opportunities in front of them, while young men are floundering. The phenomenon has developed over the past decade, but was supercharged by the pandemic, which derailed careers, schooling, and isolated friends and family. The result has big implications for the economy. And I could get into the stats, but I'm not quivering with that setup for the article exactly. But it's been taking place over a number of decades. As a former very energetic boy and father observing public schools, the feminization of America's public schools is undeniable.
We went in.
One generation from a situation where I and my contemporaries and Jack you can obviously speak to this too. We would sit in class, we would do our stuff and all. Then we would go out and play hard games of soccer or whatever you played the.
Exactly how dare he have the ball? Kill him? Anyway?
We would play until we were sweaty and bloody and panting for breath, and then we could come in and pay attention again, and it went great, And then we'd go to gym class and do something similar.
For a while.
But now little boys are expected to sit still and act like little girls.
I think that sounds like a lot of toxic masculinity that I'm glad has been stamped out. Oh boy, there's that too.
But the whatever, the many causes this are more women age twenty five to thirty four of entered the workforce in recent years than ever before the share of young men in the labor market, meanwhile, hasn't grown in a decade. As of August, eighty nine percent of this cohort of men were employed are looking for work, which is fewer than the participant patient rate at the four levels women's participation rate up six percent. I almost see no need to juxtapose the two because it's not a race.
Yeah, that's true, although if everybody was the same, then you would just think you'd be talking young people. Yeah, fair enough, young enough. I guess why are so many young people still living at home? If twice as many men are living at home at age thirty as young as as women, there's song going on there.
You know, a lot of young men are neat which is a term economists used to refer to neither employed, educated, or in training, in other words, just slacking. Around two hundred and sixty thousand more men than women fell into this category in twenty twenty four, according to a big think tank. That's eight point six percent of young men are neither in uh, neither working, seeking work, in education or training. They're doing nothing going on ten percent of young men.
Well, of men twenty five to thirty four, almost one out of five live at home. Yeah, men twenty five to thirty four, one out of five live with their parents. What was the number like in the sixties? One percent? Zero Armstrong and Getty for ABC News.
I'm David Muir, and is it just me or is it kind of handsom in here? I hope to take away of the debate I moderated would be my striking good looks. But unfortunately it was whether or not I was biased towards the Democrats, which duh.
That's Saturday Night Live. We'll play a little more of their open coming up and a little bit. I thought it was pretty funny and uh, fairly evially balanced for Saturday Ana Line. Remarkable.
Yeah, absolutely, last segment, we were talking about the current state of young manhood in America, and it's troubled state. The drop and labor participation rate, the astounding number of young men who are still at home, the one out of five that's incredible, one out of ten of just given up on life. I mean they're not in they're not working, they're not looking for work, they're not in any sort of training or education. They're just laying around, which is horrifying.
You know. Just as an aside, Michael.
Yeah, I just remember growing up that if you were like twenty twenty one, twenty two and you lived at home, you were laughed at, you were marked, you were ashamed.
Well, you, Mike Peers, you're a little younger than Joe and I I didn't know a single human being did that, like at age twenty eight, not one, So I don't know how well you would have reacted because I didn't know.
Any right, right, yeah, and the okay, So anyway, they they go into a lot of the reasons for this, and some of them are familiar. I think we went through the feminization of school, I think, which is turning boys off to school in large numbers, and the idea that masculinity is toxic. Because you know, some of those who used that term would say, well, no, that just refers to the negative aspects of you know, brutality or sexism or whatever. But no, there is, unquestionably, in the very progressive world of schools of education and the folks running government schools, an idea that masculinity itself is toxic, and little boys get that message.
I've seen it for years. That's terrible.
Then you get to the more discussed aspect of shifts a weight from traditional gender roles and single earner family structures, as well as declines and traditionally male dominated industries such as manufacturing women conversely or flooding the labor market thanks and parts of more remote work opportunities, and their divergence isn't just economic. Young men and women are also farther apart on political and social issues.
Who're just think in general, just like really big picture looking at the graft that they had at the top of the Wall Street Journal article, where it's roughly over the last quite a few years, nearly double the number of men to women living at home as young people between twenty five and thirty four years old. Wouldn't you just, I mean, just God, without any other knowledge than that, wouldn't that strike you as holy crap? I mean, because even if the number of young people staying at home is growing, just based on the way I know men and women, I could see the number of women being higher than men, but twice as high, just like I don't know, if I was dropped in from another planet and looked at that, I would think I can't even come up with an explanation for this.
Yeah, it is absolutely shocking, said Richard Greaves, president of the American Institute for Boys and Men, a non partisan research organization.
Quote.
The sense of a lot of young men is not being sure that they are needed or that they are going to be needed by their families. By their communities, by society.
Wow.
And one of the first clues popped up a few years ago. Popped up before that if you were paying attention, but educators began sounding the alarm on high school boys plummeting college attendance rates. Now that this cohort is in their twenties, the feelings of aimlessness are spilling into the social and professional realms as well. Just a quick aside, beautiful picture of this smiling family, mom and dad and their sons nineteen and twenty five, and there's another son who's also living at home. The articles about how these boys are all living at home and they're all posing for a picture with mom and dad. It's kind of nuts. Daughters off living or life for what it's worth.
It's odd.
It's just odd. I find myself wondering. And sometimes we'll do this, will compare the human animal to other animals. And if you as a university no, I was gonna go with wolves system, if you were to, as a biologist, say hey, here's what we're gonna do. We're going to go into the wolf populations of Velaska. And since the male does most of the killing and hunting, then brings the meat back to the mate and the pups and everything. We're just gonna give them meat. We're gonna render the male of that species useless for five years and see what happens. First of all, no, the scientific community would come down on you like a ton of bricks. But how disruptive would that be? How would that screw up that species?
The thing that we all need, we need to fight against, I think is the one of our favorite phrases around here, and I think about it practically daily. They didn't raise themselves, is uh. It's it's so common to blame the person that's acting this way. Well, people didn't used to act that way, and now they do. Right, It's not uh, it's it's something changed in the in the culture that would lead you to be that way.
Yeah.
Right.
Part of it is ideo ideological, as we've been describing, and part of it is economic, where just the vast majority of men for all of human history, we're either harvesting something or.
Making something, or fighting someone or fighting someone.
Yeah, and we don't do much of any of those things in the US in particular, or in the Western world for that matter. And I just I go back to this, this recurring thought that I never as a kid in Sunday school reading the Bible whatever, I never got exactly the whole tree of knowledge thing in the Garden of Eden, the Book of Genesis, and like knowledge is a good thing, why was God like holding back any old apple of knowledge there? But modernity is going to kill off humankind.
It's not gonna be atomic weapons. I guess one thing that ought to be studied more is the one out of five young men that are still at home. What's different between them and the four out of five that aren't. The fact that the number is going up over the years should be troubling, but because you know, we could end up ten years from now where it's half of young men are living at home, which actually wouldn't surprise me because there's going to be fewer young men. It's fewer people are having babies, et cetera, et cetera. But what's the difference. Is there something in the parenting or the I'd like to see how it varies from town to town, town versus rural state to state, you know, getting in the whole conservative politics versus liberal politics. I haven't been that would be really interesting. I haven't been on a college campus in many, many, many years. But just my observation of it from afar, it seems like, what is there that would make a man happy, make you feel welcome? Oh? Would it be the women, Joe? Given the fact that you need consent to like say or do anything that was perfectly normal when.
We were young, and they're all like nuts and communists, angry communists.
And the first thing you get asked is your politics? Is I learned from a babysitter the other day. Oh yeah, yeah.
The first thing you ask a prospective date is their politics.
If you can.
Imagine that, yikes. Well, and you know there are, like most things, it's probably a stew of different causes. But the whole self esteem movement, the trophies for everyone movement, a frequent target for derision, and I think appropriately, I'm just thinking about my attitudes as a lad. The way I would get respect, admiration, success was by achieving.
That was it. That was the only choice. I wasn't going to get.
Admiration for fogging a mirror. If I wanted a trophy, I had to win a championship and that made me want that approval.
Yeah, I think it is really hard to nail down and has been and I think it will continue to be. It reminds me of what they say about goal setting. The reason you need to set goals is, you know, you set a goal, this is what you want to do and when you want to have it done by, and then you do all kinds of little things to get there that you don't even know about because you've got a goal and things you wouldn't be able to write down or point to because of the way goals work. And I think most of us believe in this philosophy. Well, if the goal goal of academia was to boost women, and it seems like in many cases bring down men, how many different things have happened, like little things that we're not even aware of, in pursuit of that goal. Wow. Yeah, the way people talk, the way people the events that they have, that just everything, the way classes are structured, the way what the classes are, just so many things it would be, you know, it's just in the air. Here's the goal. The goal is to boost women and bring down men. Well you've been successful.
Yeah, Well, and it is indisputable. I don't think that the well, no, I know it. It is indisputable that the teachers colleges of America are at the far far left of our politics and our philosophy.
They are wildly progressive.
And that's the sort of extremist that embraces the idea that you should pick one sex over the other, which is an absurd notion. But there are lots of absurd notions in academia in these days. So yeah, I think you are probably right. Yeah, that's an interesting juxtaposition. I hadn't thought of goals like that. Now my goal is to set some goals.
There's no denying this. A culture where lots of their young men are at home with mom and dad and don't really have a life to speak of or any plan to get one, is not good. Not good in terms of competing on the world stage.
The number of young men quoted in this article that says something akin to I'm not sure what I want out of my life, and that's the problem purposelessness?
Right, Yeah, yeah, dang it, that is really really frustrating. I got to make sure my kids have a purpose. I got two boys, two teenagers.
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Armstrong and Yettie so Many made a really good point on the text line, Uh, getting back to the what's up with men? Young men still living at home and all the things we've talked about in the past. The reason a man gets up and pursues anything and has any ambition in life is so we can procreate and have a woman and children depend on him. If that element is removed, men will remove themselves, which is what is happening now. That is what drives everything that we're looking maybe we're looking at it backwards. The fact that the desire to couple went away. Well, if you're a guy, well then no, I don't care what kind of car I have, or what clothes I wear, what my position in life is is a job. What drives men mostly is I want to get a girl and be worthy of her. And if you don't have any desire to get a girl. I mean the way my son has changed, my oldest son since he discovered interest in the opposite sex is eaten well, exercising, dressing better. He changed so much about the way he is, all in pursuit of, you know, having a girl. Right, you take that away, absolutely necessary? Yeah, you take that away. I don't care I address or what I look like her if I have any money, why would I care? Well?
And I think if you're a good man, it's not just getting the girl but being worthy of her love and pride and the rest of it for a lifetime. Yeah.
I was thinking more on like just the subliminal level, that stuff you don't even think about. You don't even think about. Maybe necessarily you're doing all this stuff to get a mate, but you are anyway. Saturday Live I thought was dang good. They're open had lots of big stars playing the roles of all are presidential candidates, including Dana Carvey reprising his Joe Biden. We couldn't have gotten here without one man, and his name is Joe Biden, get on here, Joe Biden. Folks, that's right.
A lot of people forget I'm president claim me, but guess why.
And by the.
Way, I think I did a pretty good job. I passed more bills d president history. But folks, we've still got work to do. No, Joe, I'm being serious right now.
What you guess what?
And by the way, the fact of the matter is.
The rich don't day they're fair shared.
I gotta be fair share.
We got to build back better.
The build back the better, the better, better, build back the better. Can't believe it's not bothering.
So somebody pointed out the other day, and this is absolutely true. I don't know. I can't wait till the books are written. Who gets credit for this? That debate that drove Joe Biden out of the race that happened in July wouldn't have happened yet. Presidential debates are in October. And if that hadn't gotten scheduled so early, I think to obviously do a test can he do it or not? Because we need to figure out if he can't right away. We can't wait till October. But would they The answer is yes, would they I gave you the answer, it's yes. Would they still be pretending he was okay and covering for all of his old madness?
Yes, well I feel a little redundant here you having answered the questions several times. Yeah, they would be in a full blown panic and sending out everybody they could think of, from you know, the Clintons. They would get Jimmy Carter off his deathbed, going out and saying he just had a bad night. He had a bad night, he was sleep deprived, he was up worrying about Israel. Yeah, yeah, that's it, And they would be blanketing the country with desperate, ridiculous spin that no, no, no, he's fine.
But how about it a parallel the universe where we have our debates, where we normally have our debates in October, and we haven't had Joe Biden debate yet, and a lot of the country thinks he's fine because the media has been telling him that I can't keep up with him. How crazy is that? That that's where we could be if somebody hadn't come up with the clever idea of let's do it way early.
But it's even crazier than that, because prior to the debate, eighty percent of Americans thought he was too old to do the job right. And I think a fall full of or a you know, lie August September full of gafts and mumbling and whispering in the rest of probably triven that number higher, probably Trump pulling further away, yes, and then hammering the age thing as well, Yeah, unmercifully.
Yeah, what a crazy twist and turn. And it's basically tied right now. And we've got five weeks from tomorrow. Five weeks from tomorrow. Tomorrow night is the vice presidential debate. Nothing has moved the needle yet, so I don't know that that would or could.
That's the only perhaps impactful thing on the schedule too, outside of a foreign policy thing. No other debates, just Kamala hiding from interviews. Trump doing rallies that are part really good and part we're just a waste.
Where he calls her mentally ill, mentally disabled, he called it disabled metal, he disabled, he called her over the weekend. Wow, sure that's going to sway any swing voters in swing states. But get the photopia, Get the women who are struggling to decide whether they want to come. I'll call your opponent mentally disabled. That is something armstrong and getty