The A&G Replay Friday December 29, 2023 Hour One

Published Dec 29, 2023, 3:18 PM

Hour 1 of Friday December 29, 2023 edition of The Armstrong & Getty Show features...

  • NYT Honest On Immigration
  • Kamala Explain AI
  • Declining Schools
  • Joe Builds A BBQ

Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty.

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We're taking the week off because we're gluttons and we're going to eat so much that we're.

Sick, the incoherent, we're so full anywhere. Jack, would you like to remind everybody of Joe Getty's iron law of dog retrieval.

Is that the idea that you you can't punish your dog when you find like your dog's disobeying you, and then when your dog finally comes to you, you can't like, you know, hit him with a rolld up newspaper, right because they're getting the message that, oh, when I come to you, I get smacked on.

No, they've finally come to you, you're frustrated, don't smack them on the nose.

Of course, shouldn't beat your.

Dog anyway, No, no, no, no, it's a metaphorical.

And you shouldn't beat New York Times journalists either. I mean, there are laws. For instance, this is astounding. I brought this up briefly yesterday, but there's more to it.

Now.

The New York Times is actually paying a fair amount of attention to immigration backlash around the world, and they point out the foreign born population of various countries and how it's skyrocketed over the last sixty years. From Australia that's nearly doubled, the foreign born population of the Netherlands that's more than doubles two and a half times. France has gone from less than one percent of fifteen percent, so they have thirty times as many foreign born people in France, United Kingdoms, Netherlands.

I'm sorry that was Spain. France is just merely doubled. But they go into a bunch of countries and then and.

Again.

This is where we don't hit the New York Times on the nose with a newspaper when.

They're not talking about US immigration and it's politics, and I guess and the advocates on either side they act like intelligent adults and say things like.

The scale.

This scale of immigration tends to be unpopular with residents of the arrival countries. It's a signal that the country's laws don't matter. Also, lower income and blue collar workers worry their wages will decline because employers suddenly have a larger, cheaper labor pool from which to hire. We've been saying that for years and years, and it's not obviously as obvious as anything could be. You're a racist was the counter argument for like thirty years from the New York Times. Now they're quoting Tom Ferless from the Wall Street Journal, who wrote record immigration affluent countries are sparking bigger backlashes around the world, boosting populist parties, putting pressure on governments, etc. The backlashes repeat a long cycle in immigration policy. Business is constantly lobby for more liberal immigration laws because that reduces their labor costs and boosts profits. They draw support from pro business politicians on the right and pro integration leaders on the left, leading to immigration policies that are more liberal than the average voter wants.

This is the New York Times.

What happened to I'm a racist, Well, I'm neighboring lower levels of immigration is not inherent inherently bigoted or always right wing. Not to get off on a tangent to interrupt this particular story, which I find interesting, but I listened to like an hour and a half interview with the publisher of the New York Times. The Dispatch, Steve Hayes and Sarah Izger sat down with the Saltzman. Is that their name, the Goltzberger Sultzberger, the guy who runs and he's like the eighth person in his family to run The New York Times, going back generations and generations and generations, and it was really an interesting conversation. He's trying to take the New York Times a slightly different direction than it was going for a while. But he wrote a long and I mean really really long peace to counter the Columbia School of Journalism's new idea that objectivity should be taken out of.

Journalism.

So a lot you're leading journalism school in America, and a lot of your leading journalist thinkers have decided that no, no, no, no, no. Advocacy is what journalism is about. You pick aside and you make the best argument for it. That's what you should be doing. And he, as a guy who runs a New York Times, said no, that's going to ruin the country. We need to continue to have people who are just trying to lay out the facts and be as objective as possible. And I thought that was absolutely fantastic, and he sounded like he really really believed it. He also said, I thought this was interesting. He said, I don't get into the daily story stuff like I'm way way above that. I'm like long term vision and everything like that. He said, I read The New York Times every day, and there's stuff that makes me to get how could you write this or how could you leave this out? He said, I say that all the time, just like everybody else does.

Wow. Interesting. I was just gonna say.

Anybody's ever run an organization knows there are times the organization gets kind of over there and you've got to figure out, all right, how do we pull it back over here. You don't command every iota of activity.

I'm not denying that The New York Times overall, you know, tenor is left and will probably always be left. But he was talking about how you have no idea how much heat we get from the trans community for the fact that we've been covering all these stories about you know, the surgery and all this different sort of stuff for kids, and how their experts auld say it's bad.

He said, we get so much pushback from that, you can't believe.

Yeah, the New York Times actually did a very courageous job of reporting on all of the European countries saying, hey, this stuff is unproven, it's dangerous, we have no data to say it's safe.

We're not doing it anymore on children.

I guess my overall point in bringing this up would be that the guy that runs the most important newspaper in the world probably still believes that object active journalism is a better goal than advocacy journalism.

So we'll see how that plays out. Yeah.

Indeed, one more note from the immigration thing that I want to move on to Turkey at least briefly, and again the country not to meet today. Though many progressives are uncomfortable with any immigration skeptical argument, they have become passionate advocates for more migration and global integration, arguing correctly that immigration usually benefits by moving from a lower that immigrants usually benefit from moving from a lower wage country to a higher wage country.

As if we on the right don't get that, we understand.

How does it benefit me is always the question, and your global in the long run, it's good for the country, while I agree with that, is fine, but is it making my town better to all of a sudden have thousands of people from some other country show up. Because I've lived in towns where that's happened and it didn't make the town better, make.

The country better.

Overall immigration, I get that, but you can't blame people if their real life experience is it's made the school harder to function. We've got more this, more that that we didn't have before, and we don't like it.

That's the way people feel all around the world. It makes the schools worse, just worse.

It also has costs, they point out, including its burden on social services, as some local leaders like Mayor Eric Adams of New York have recently emphasized, Yeah, we know again. I'm not going to hit you on the nose with the newspaper. But while you were calling me a racist for the last thirty years, these were precisely the arguments we were making. Moving along, tell you what you got your friends, your enemies, than your frenemies, and a Turkey might be the most interesting frenemy the United States and NATO will ever have. The the that's their national anthem right there.

The dictator of Turkey Air Dowan, and he's kind of a quasi dictator he's that tweener he controls elections then actually has elections.

But he puts his thumb on the scale pretty hard. Not like Putin, but thumb is on the scale, no doubt. Well, after a long ish period of really cozying up to Russia and giving the US and the West the finger, all of a sudden he wants to be our bud again. He's flip flopped from calling Putin my friend to suddenly, Monday, after more than a year being treated as an in house spoiler by Western allies, he dropped his objections to Sweden joining NATO, allowed the NATO Summit to convene on Tuesday. With a new sense of strength and unity. He is going to have a one on one with Biden. He's given recent indications he's distancing Turkey from Russia.

Indeed, we're going to sell him some F sixteens. I wonder if that has something to do with it.

But he is definitely making noises about Yeah, I'm a man of the West. Now we're a country of the West. Let's all get together. HeLa, HeLa.

Yeah, huh, I hope he means that.

Yeah.

I think giving him the F sixteen's seems to be. According to the people I listen to the big Deal, that's what they were holding out for. That's what they wanted, and all right, we'll see how that turns out. Quick question for you, what if you happen to miss this unbelievable radio program. The answer is easy, friends, just download our podcast, Armstrong and Getdy on demand. It's the podcast version of the broadcast show, available anytime, any day every single podcast platform known demand.

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You know, I mocked the Internet for many years.

Because there are all the promises about how it was going to change all these different industries and take over the world and everything like that.

And it did it eventually, did I mean, everything.

Took over, ruined. Everything about life is different since the Internet came along. There have been other things, though, that have been promised to like change society, and they have not panned out. I was speaking of being on vacation. I think it was in Santa Barbara. We saw some people on those had rented those Segway scooters. Do you remember when that thing was teased for months as this will change the world, it will change society.

It will, and it didn't. I mean people on vacation code name Ginger, right, is that right?

I think maybe you're right. Yeah, but you know, occasionally on vacation some people rent them.

Is not some.

People use them to tour the US capital. It is not changing the world. Mall cops use them, but so some. But like I didn't know when I bought my first iPhone that that would change my life and have the way everybody acts. I didn't know that when I got my first iPhone, but it sure did. Artificial intelligence is absolutely going to upend everything.

This one.

I just I feel like I have no doubt about don't right, I mean, that's just oh my goodness.

Yeah.

So a couple of different things Elon before we get to Kamala Harris. If you don't understand artificial intelligence, we have Kamala Harris explaining it to you coming up in seconds. But Elon Musk announced some new AI venture yesterday. He was the original guy with chat GPT, which I didn't really understand at first. He and some other guys started it with the idea of we need this to be open, nonprofit, open AI, you know, so that so it doesn't get out of control. We can all take a look at this and say, how are we going to regulate it? Blah blah blah. Then he got out of it, it went private, and now it's a for profit thing, and off we go into the future with artificial intelligence being whatever it's going to be. That's why Chuck Schumer is looking into it, or Congress is looking into it, and as he is the lead of the Senate, they had a big hearing yesterday, and coming out of the heeing hearing, he announced that this is going to be one of the hardest tasks that Congress has ever faced. Now he is a man who likes his hyper bowl. I think that he's absolutely right. I can't even imagine how Congress is going to deal with AI. Well, the people are most into it. Point out that tomorrow will be very different from today. Ryan, I don't mean like when your kids are grown up. I mean freaking Friday, right right exactly. Yeah, So any you have to guess to try to stay ahead of it, and it'll change so fast and nobody.

Really knows where it's going.

I mean, if the very people who created AI don't know if they can get rid of those hallucinations that tells you everything you need to know. We don't know where this is headed anyway. He said it's going to be one of the most difficult, hardest tasks that Congress has ever faced. Making even more difficult rights Blue Burg is the fact that AI is already widely used them when washing the Washington political class. Then they do this, this is media criticism. Here Bloomberg talks about it's already being used for dirty tricks and campaigning. They mentioned a couple of Republican things. Then they say there are other ways to use AI and talk about how Democrats are using it for fundraising and to to help charities or whatever.

Oh, come on them, are you going to.

Pretend that only Republicans are are or are going to use AI for dirty tricks?

Hilarious?

Whatever anyway, and then this leads us to what we want to get to in the Bloomberg article. Down the street at the White House, Vice President Kamala Harris called a meeting with civil rights and labor leaders to discuss the technology, and I guess that's what this clip is. This is her explaining AI to a bunch of leaders.

I think the first part of this issue that should be articulated is AI is kind of a fancy thing.

It's for Swell's two letters.

It means artificial intelligence.

But ultimately what it is is it's about machine learning, and so the machine is taught and part of the issue here is what information is going into the machine that will then determine.

And we can predict then if we think about what machine, what information is going in, what then will be produced in terms of decisions and opinions that may be made through that process.

So they're just two choices with her as far as I can see, And you tell me, okay, she either thinks we're all that she's so much smarter than all of us she has to talk to us like we're five year olds, or she's an idiot herself.

Then go.

That was funny, Michael, Yes, it was all I can tell you. I mean, all the evidence points to the fact that she's an idiot. I mean her word salads are endless. Then it's an all you can eat word salad bar.

And she wouldn't do that in all situations. Bring to me the example where she is brilliant and incisive. That's a good point. If she were super smart. Sometimes when she's talking to some groups. She would think she'd come off as smart, but she always talks like she's talking to first graders.

AI is kind of a fancy things for Swell's two letters. It needs artificial intelligence.

Yeah, we know AI is two letters. We've counted them. I mean, that's an astonishing thing to say so, and I also must rely. And I've told this story before. I think it was while she was Joe Biden's ticket, make before she was elected. I had friends who were highly placed in law enforcement in California who'd worked with her, telling me she's an idiot. I'd be like, come on, fellas, all right, you know, I know she's a liberal and all they were like, Joe, listen to me, No, she's a dope. She's not smart. And I'd be like, okay, Fellas, all right.

And then after she got elected and proved herself to be a moron, they text me and say, what.

Did we tell you? Can you say moron?

Can you become attorney general the biggest state in the country, then a US senator the world's most exclusive club, then vice President of the.

United States being an idiot? Yes, b can go.

I mean you're sitting there in Yankee stadium asking me, can Aaron judge it a ball that far?

You just saw it? What do you want out of me? She's an idiot? She checks ethnic boxes. Reasonably attractive.

Yeah, the girlfriend of the most powerful man in California politics in the last one hundred.

Years, Willie Brown. Right, that doesn't hurt.

No, you know, in a one party state, she polled reasonably well and so just got elevated over and over again. And she does the bidding of those who tell her what to do.

Are some machine learning? And then she always does that pause the Armstrong and Getdy.

What in God's night.

Man?

That makes my soul? Leads suits a.

Little too much talking doctable?

The reality is is they're gonna wear are They're gonna wear fast?

Now From the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio and the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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That was unnecessarily Frankfurt.

How can this show be, on one hand, sometimes so high brow, yet and be what it is the rest of the time.

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I wanted to touch on a handful of the stories that all are on the same theme, essentially, and that's the crumbling of America's government schools. And I'm just going to touch on each of these things fairly briefly, with a couple of exceptions.

But it's notable.

I think that they come from media outlets left right and center. For instance, the New York Times is reporting it's not just math and reading. US history scores for eighth graders have plunged, and it's not just the pandemic. About forty percent of eighth graders scored below basic in US History last year, and basic is low, significantly lower.

Than ever before.

Just thirteen percent of eighth graders were considered proficient. And they mentioned in a very New York Times in way that, yeah, part of it was the pandemic, but part of it was that teaching history has become somewhat controversial in around America.

So I will be vague about this. I don't want to hurt anybody's feelings or get anybody in trouble. But a grade schooler I know, saying completely unprovoked and not having heard any complaints in their home about this, actually said on the discussion of history, how come the only history we learn about is black history?

Yeah, yeah, and then charmingly the New York Times as it usually does, uh. Said President Biden's Education secretary, Miguel Cardona. Seized on the results, admonishing politicians for trying to limit instruction in history, often on topics of race, a trend that has played out in dozens of states, typically Republican controlled. Now is not the time that banning history books and censoring educators blah blah blah. So in other words, if anybody pushes back on the not teaching American history, just teaching activist racialist history, then they are considered the perverters of historic education. It's something so reading math, science and history disastrous results in government schools and getting worse. Other than that, they're doing terrifically well moving along. Schools are ditching homework and deadlines in favor of equitable grading. We talked about this when it was first implemented a couple of years ago. It became hot, and all I'm going to tell you is, briefly, they go through a bunch of school districts, including Las Vegas, where teachers are saying things like this has not worked out like we expected it to we're really setting students up for a false sense of reality. If you get a job in real life, you can't pick and choose what tasks you want to do and only quote do the big ones. And so this is so because anybody with the least understanding human nature knew this that if you give kids the entire semester to finish something, let him take tests over and over again.

I get that from, you know, in a the point of view of like an open hearted eye. Just want kids to learn.

And if this kid takes longer than the others, I don't want him quote unquote quote punished as long as he learns it eventually.

That's a very nice attitude. Sure, I get it too.

If humans weren't humans, right, I wouldn't have worked on me. I need deadlines. Let's see uh.

Samuel Wang, a senior at high school in Las Vegas, has spoken out against the grading changes, saying they provide incentives for poor work habits, etc. There's an apathy that pervades, pervades the entire classroom.

He said.

Students are prone to skip class now unless there's an exam, nobody feels motivated to do anything, which again was obvious how human beings are moving along. Chicago drops public school ratings in favor of a less punitive system for assessing schools.

What does that sound like to you, sir? Less punitive?

So if I'm getting bad grades, I say, can we come up with a less punitive way of judging how I'm doing?

The Chicago Board of Education on Wednesday voted to replace its school ratings policy with one that's intended to provide information about a range of school characteristics, from how students perform on state tests, to whether instruction is rigorous and student centered, to whether a school environment is healing.

All right, so you get a an A on your student environment is healing, but your people can't read. But overall, you know, but the instruction is rigorous and student centered. Nobody can read, write, or do arithmetic, but by golly, the environment is healing. So they're going to drop the ratings of the schools that were based on academic achievement and go with mush in Chicago. Speaking of Chicago, LORI lightfoot, Yes, I was just thinking about the number of people I've known as I got older through my life, before I had kids who their kids were straight A students, since just like so many straight A students, way more straight A students than existed when I was in school, which is now a long time ago. Yeah yeah, oh yeah, we could absolutely talk about grade inflation.

And you know, even with grade inflation, the school achievement is terrible because you don't get grades on like standardized tests, you get a score. How much do you know you can't inflate a wrong answer into the right one. So, speaking of Chicago Mayor, Lori Lightfoot seemed to reject Randy Weingarten's claims that the evil head of the American Federation to teachers. You remember when she went before Congress all sorts about landish claims about how hard they were trying to reopen schools all through the pandemic.

She said, we spent oh I'm sorry. Winegarten said, we spent.

Every day from February twenty twenty one on trying to get schools open. And Laurie Lightfoot said, that may have been what Randy was saying at the national level, and I believe that to be true. I had conversations with the time that led me to believe that's what she wanted to do. But that's not the reality that was happening on the ground in cities like Chicago, like Los Angeles and other places.

We needed to get our kids back in school.

I'm unapologetic about the fight to make sure we put our kids and parents first. She responded, So, that's a very diplomatic way to say, sure, sure, but the kids weren't in school and it was a disaster. And finally, I love this The editorial board from the Wall Street Journal Randy Winingarten's incredible COVID memory loss. Much still needs to we learned about long term health EFFECTICO nineteen, but we already know one of the clear long term political effects memory loss. That's the only way to explain why longtime advocates of pandemic lockdowns are now denying they ever supported the school and economic shutdowns that did so much harm to so many. Then he goes back to that awful Randy Winingarten quote alas her, uh, where's we know that young people learn and connect best in person, So opening schools safely even during a pandemic guided our actions, which I will describe in detail alas they write her detail admitted a few things, such as her description. In July twenty twenty of the Trump administrations pushed reopen schools for in person learning that autumn as this reckless, this callous, this cruel. That summer, she also endorsed teachers' safety strikes if unions deemed local reopening protocols to be inadequate. Hundreds of private and charter schools did open that fall without the surge of illness that Miss Winingarten claimed to fear. She also left out the detail that local union affiliates were the aggressive opponents of school reopening throughout twenty twenty one and even into twenty twenty two. We are practically begging the Chicago Teachers Union to come to the table so we can get a deal done, said Lory Lightfoot in February twenty twenty one. We are begging them, and they won't even come to the table.

I've given up on the idea that there's ever going to be the great reckoning on this whole thing.

But it's amazing to me that.

We weren't able to have a national discussion about this when the evidence was so clear of private school right here you go, a couple of miles away, here's a public school. One's open, ones closed. Everything's fine at the open school. What's your argument? What's your argument? But yet the public schools stayed closed for months and months and months like a full year longer in one case that I know, and in you know, with the exception of a couple of think pieces that have made their way into the New York Times for instance, or whatever, we haven't really confronted that in a broad way. And I would guess that blue state and Blue City America they might not even realize how many private schools and charter schools were wide open and doing great.

I'll bet they don't even know it. But to finish up this Wall Street Journal thing, I like their conclusion. After Governor Ronda Santis ordered Florida schools oh he mentioned, they mentioned that the Chicago Union voted against in person learning again and again and again.

They wouldn't relent.

After ron De Santis ordered Florida schools to reopen in autumn twenty twenty, the Florida Education Association sued the state to keep them closed. The schools opened, much to the benefit of students who learned far better in person. According to all the evidence. We could cite many other union quotes and efforts. Ms Winngarten and others are trying to rewrite history because they realized now far too late, that their lockdowns are unpopular. The public can see the damage and lost learning in livelihoods. The lockdown lobbyists want everyone to forget it all happened, but it's important for democratic accountability that they don't get away with it. Oh, I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for accountability. As we've been discussing lately, nobody seems to be in favor of that. Educations are about the I'm sorry, educations. Elections are about the.

Future, not the past, right You hear that all the freaking time. Can you think of a reason a politician might say that, You know, I was just looking up at the TV screens. I got in here with the thousands of people that are living on the streets in these border towns as ten thousand people are crossing every day every day, and there's no place for them to go, obviously, and everything. And while listening to you talk about dropping test scores and no wonder, we had that poll to site last week of three quarters of Americans thinking, what was the question, is America out of control or whatever?

No wonder?

No wonder we have ten thousand people coming across the border every day. I don't know who they are, what are their skills are, where they're gonna go? The people that are here, our schools are just that we We expect to demand nothing of anybody. Don't hold the teacher's account accountable while we throw more money than ever at them.

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I suspected that Sweet Green was ripping me off with my online orders, and with the help of a cheap kitchen scale, I was able to prove it. On average, I got sixteen percent less food when I order it online. So if you want a filling meal from Sweet Green, ditch your phone and order face to face.

So there's a guy claiming, well, at least at that Well, I don't know what Sweet Green is it as a restaurant.

Or I believe it's like Chipotle, Okay, But so.

He's he's saying that when you order online they give you less food than when you're there in person.

I'd like to know more about his data set. That seems odd. Why would they do that? Yeah, I don't know what the motivation would be.

Michael, Is there more to this story? No, but I've experienced this. I'm just saying, hell yeah.

I've dined in person and got nice big, large portions.

Then it ordered the same meal to go. It was small.

Need I need. I don't need nice large portions. I need nice, smaller portions of everything. Everywhere I go I very rarely, except for like an expensive steak. Sometimes be the only times I ever get food and think this is it. Usually it's like, good God, this is giant. Why did we each order our own food?

No human beings should ever eat this many French fries?

Or do you eat a cheeseburger this big? Or eat a burrito this big? Or whatever the hell it is?

Right right? Yeah?

Oh my god, Speaking of eating, Judy and I had some dear friends of ours in town for several days now, visiting, and they're on vacation. I've been working, I mean to the working, but generally get off the air and they come back from some morning adventure or whatever, and then the day drinking begins and the eating and the rest of it.

It's been festive and great fun. But you know, you can't be on vacation, your whole life. But so it was decided while I was working yesterday that what we really ought to do, the four of us, the two couples, is put together this giant new gas grill that I just bought.

That's pretty complicated. You have to assemble it. It's multiple cooking surfaces and all. And that would be a fun thing to do.

What an interesting idea. I've never considered that before. We have people over, Hey, let's put together something complicated as a team. It's almost like a team building exercise, yes, which frequently go around.

Yeah right, so, and you know how everybody kind of has a different style, Yes, absolutely, with the frustrations and the lack of clarity in the instruction.

My style would be, how about y'all three do something else and I'll build this on my own.

Well see, that's the thing.

Some of us are more collaborators than others. Some of us are more willing to share our opinions than others, with varying levels of confidence.

But so it was an interesting exercise.

I would know, my god, that's a gutsy thing to do, even with people you're close friends with. In fact, I'd be less likely to want to do it with people I'm friends with.

Well, the funny thing was it was their last afternoon in town, and so I think everybody thought, all right, if this melts down, people start yelling at each other, this is going to be devastating.

So we got to keep it friendly.

So everybody sipped on some survasis and we worked at it.

But I almost want to name.

The the brand. I should say, I'm not going to, but I am going to review them online and I am going to unleash my full eloquence slash sarcasm. Their instructions, their assembly instructions were entirely nonverbal.

Just pictures.

Yeah, but there is money. You don't have to print different versions with different languages.

Oh lord, I was gonna say, is it for the illiterate community or what?

You're probably right with that, but so but these pictures were too small, right, utterly unclear, absolutely, and frequently just mystifying. I mean, you got four intelligent adults looking at it and saying, I can't tell where it's supposed to go.

I've had that experience recently.

Or we're all college graduates, you have an advanced degree, and none of us can figure out this thing.

Well, right, and we'd run into things like you're supposed to put in the littles that the casters go on the wheels, but in two of the holes there's metal in the way. Well, as it turns out, you just bend the metal out of the way. But wait a minute, you can't just willy nilly go bending the thing if you don't like the.

Shape you find.

Well, I don't know, this screw doesn't seem to be going in here, so I'm just gonna drill another hole. I mean, that's not the way you're supposed to assemblize this, but they're gonna tell you.

Well.

Luckily, the company has a couple of plucky young women in a YouTube video assembling the grill.

So you can watch that.

Of course, that's completely nonverbal. It's frequently from too far away. Their hands are.

Hidden behind the panels of the grill, so you can't see what the f they're doing. They don't show you which of the screws they're using, and they sit there like mutes. I don't know, AI created robots, smiling at the camera while they do something you can't see. Oh, and then I call there, gosh, dang, and I've more fired up than I realized about this. I called their helpline, right, we're experiencing a higher volume of calls and yearsually your waytime will be less than ten minutes. About two minutes later, they say, we know your time is valuable. Would you like to be placed on our callback list and we will call you as soon as an agent is available.

I thought, yeah, that's a good idea. So I go ahead and select that and they say, thank you, you will receive a call. It occurred to me two and a half hours later that they had not called, not at all. It was probably after business hours where their company is located. But so I just I'm honestly as a free market guy, because I was aware going in that this was a problem. Judging by the reviews, the reviews of the product are terrific, both professional and user reviews. The reviews of the assembly procedure are scathing. I, for instance, and our buddy Matt Gray, filmmaker geographer, we could go in there and in an afternoon assemble one of the grills with helpful hints. And now you may find this part challenging, but the key to it is seat the back first, then click the front, and just little hints like that, we could do that in an after noon.

Why don't they? I don't know.

I do come across YouTube videos a lot where people, you know, for profit on their own are assembling things and that that's very, very handy. But they have nothing to do with the company and they've just you know, created their own site where they assemble things.

Yeah, like, that's good.

I did that with a big screen TV not long ago. There's there's a guy who he just installs big screen TVs and shows you how to do them. But he's independent, makes his money that way. But yeah, how many times my kids would tell you this, how many times I've yelled.

I want the guy who designed this right here on. I want him to show me how you do it. Go ahead, smart guys, show me how you do this

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