How's Your Stream?

Published Jun 4, 2024, 5:38 PM

Hour 4 of A&G features...

  • Apple's list of Top Albums
  • MTG and Katie Green cat fight
  • The Israel/Hamas war and cease fire talks continue
  • Final Thoughts! 

From the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the George Washington Broadcast.

Center, Jack Armstrong and Show Gatty Armstrong and Getty show.

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So that's Laurence Hill. A lot of you already know that from her album The Miseducation of Lauren Hill, which I know many people, particularly women, who loved that album, and it was Rolling Stone's tenth greatest album of all time when they put out their Big List a while back, and Apple has it as their number one greatest album of all time in their new list that they just put out. That is getting a certain amount of controversy. Although before we get into the list, Joe and I were just discussing do people actually like get into arguments about stuff like this anymore like they used to, like who's the better player Babe Ruther, Barry Bonds or whatever, Kobe or Jordan or Lebron.

Because there's so much actual outrage in the world every day.

Does anybody have any fun with any kind of like fake caring about an issue.

The way we used to well, and I think the other aspect of it is the faux how trade, faux trage the kind of Twitter online comments outrage where you're outraged about everything.

All the time.

Because we've said, here's an eight year old playing a banjo.

That kid sucks. He raped my ears? I mean, what is that?

And so I hear people clap back against the list of five hundred albums, and I think, I don't care yell at each other on the internet.

That's interesting. Care. It's hard to say because our job, as you nik, but like I used to be able to engage in a who's better Tom Brady or Joe Montana sort of conversation and you know, get into it a little bit, never actually angry. But I just got no time for that stuff anymore. And I don't know if it's this job or just there's so many real arguments like that, I mean, just real this or that. I don't know. I don't know, like you said, and everybody's angry about serious things all the time on the internets. I don't know.

Well.

And if I were to make you a list of the fifty albums that have brought me the most joy and inspiration, which is essentially what these lists are trying to do, and you said.

To me, no, you're wrong. I mean where do we go from there?

Oh, yeah, the home sucks. You know, awards for ard or hilarious, right, always have been. But it's you know, it's a good way to alert people the various good things that other people like and maybe you like it too, or it's commerce. It's a good way to get people to buy stuff or check stuff out. Anyway, Wall Street Journal this is where I got this article. It's kind of interesting. Apple says these are the one hundred best albums, even if you think different. Why did a trillion dollar company make a music list that would make people lose their minds? This week, Apple Music unveiled a provocative ranking of the one hundred best albums ever made as determined not by streaming data. That I hate when I hear about Drake being the number one selling artist of all time because of streams and sale whatever. That doesn't mean anything to me because everything's different about the way people listen to music. We don't have any way of knowing how many people would have streamed Beatles songs or Michael Jackson or anything like that, since it's apples and oranges AnyWho. It's not based on that, but by the metric of quality that sounds almost radical these days. Human judgment Apple and list to two hundred and fifty employees, artists and industry executives to vote on the albums, and they came up with a list unlike the many others that already existed, and they reference Rolling Stones one hundred best albums list that got a tremendous amount of attention I don't know, ten fifteen years ago. And then they put an up out, an updated version that they changed a fair amount, and I can read you just a little bit of the breakdown of this one, and there's more newer stuff on this than there have been some of your other lists, and that's that. A lot of that has to do with age. Neil Young can be found between fifty cent, fittycent and Eminem. Carol King is ahead of NASS but behind Wu Tang Clan Kraftwork is sandwich between Za and NWA. There is one album from the Rolling Stones, but two from Radiohead, and more records from the twenty tens than the nineteen sixties. It has Drake and Kendrick Lamar, but not Tom Petty, not one Tom Petty album, and in the top one the list includes Prince Lord, shot a Robin and Byork, Miles Davis, et cetera.

Jay Z.

It has the Beach Boys and the BC Boys, the Smiths and Patti Smith, Bob Dylan and Bruce Springsteen, but it also has Bad Bunny and Billy Ottis. So I'll just hit you with the top ten. Compare it to the Rolling Stone list for what this is worth. It had the music we just heard to start this segment, Miseducation of Lauren Hill. That album is number one. It was ten on the Rolling Stone list. Their number two is Michael Jackson Thriller. Not at all a bad choice if you got to pick one based on popularity and people love it and all kinds of different stuff. It was twelfth on the Rolling Stone list. Beatles Abbey Rode almost the same spot on both lists, three and one five and the other Prince Purple Rain also top ten both lists. But then you get into something like Frank Frank Ocean Blonde, which I wouldn't know if I heard it right now. Fifth on this list, seventy ninth on the rolling Stone List. A little more boomer list, Stevie Wonder top ten on both of them, Nirvana never Mind top ten on both of them. You think Nirvana never Mind's a top ten all time album. No, No, It's always hard to figure out the categories on this or the criteria. If it's like enter ushered in a new era of a kind of music, then yes, But do you have to usher in a new kind of music to be the top ten best album? Do I care what it did for the rest of music? Or do I only listen to this as an album on its own right?

And there are things that were enormously influential but don't really stand the test of time. They're just too dated. And I'm not saying never Mind does, because it is a great album.

I play that.

My kids absolutely love Nirvana Nevermind. And you know, thirty years after they were it came out, they were born. Beyonce Lemonade ten on this list, thirty two on the Rolling Stone's a What's a Really? Oh? Rolling Stone? If you don't remember, they had Marvin Gay Who's What's Going On? As the number one album of all time? Rolling Stone did seventeenth on this list. Beach Boys Pet Sounds was two for Rolling Stones twentieth now Leetwood Mac Rumers top ten. Both of them. Can't argue with that. I find it amusing that people can get so mad about other people's music choices. It doesn't matter to me at all what you like music. I care if you like. Tell me the music I like socks that bothers me. But I'm not gonna tell you your music sucks. I don't care what you listen.

To, right, And you've kind of read my mind.

The only thing that I get fired up at these lists is I became aware at a young age that music criticism isn't really about the music.

It's about the critic.

It's the critic wanting to show how cool they are and to express this is who I am man, which is fine. But a lot of critics reviled some of my favorite music, and so I became very very skeptical, as I have a million times. I used to say this, when the revolution comes and I'm in charge, the first up against the wall are going to be the music critics. So you know, I see a list like this, and I just see virtue signaling and posturing and pretension.

On the other hand, I.

Also see, all right, maybe I'll go through this and see what I see that might scratch my itch, and I'll listen to it.

Yeah, That's what I use it for.

Absolutely absolutely stuff that I've never heard before in my life. I'm going to think, well, if that's their top ten, I got to at least, you know, listen to a couple of tracks.

Yeah, I guess.

You know.

It's one of those things mellowing with age or just enough experience. I've seen enough of these lists come out and the way they work and the way they reacted to and it's a list of albums people think are really good. Don't worry about whether they're the greatest or not. Your favorite album is the greatest album to you. But the age thing. So we mentioned this a little bit earlier.

I saw all these different charts of when people think the American family was the strongest, when they think our politics was the best, when they think fashion was the best, when they think music was the best, and all of them come down to, roughly, when you were a teenager. Everybody thinks everything was the best when you were like twelve thirteen years old, across all the categories. I find that fascinating. So your standard that you use for the rest of your life, I guess for judging practically everything. Bet when was the television Golden age almost everybody picked like when they were twelve. I wouldn't because it's clearly better five years ago than it was in the seventies in my mind. But so it's just worth noting that when you're thinking about the best time of anything, you're probably comparing it to roughly when you're twelve, for some psychological reason. I know, I'm not exactly sure why. That's funny, So that's your base point for comparing everything the rest of your life.

Yeah, I could geek out on this, but I don't want to bore people. I actually think I am not that. If you want to talk about the best era for pop music, I think it was when I was a kid, actually between like nineteen sixty four and seventy four. But that's not to say music that is incredibly great and interesting and innovative wasn't made outside of that period. I mean it's almost like saying, you know, between nineteen seventy five and nineteen eighty was the era of the most basis on balls in Major League Baseball. It's statistically true maybe, or arguably true.

But it doesn't matter what. Who's proud of it? That make me?

If the best pop popular music and The reason I think that, by the way, is because art and commerce and technology have huge influences on popular music, and I think there.

Was we hit a sweet spot in that period, and the music that was.

Popular was incredibly diverse in style and really creative and often really challenging, which I think is cool.

That's why I think that.

But do do I like insist on it or take pride in it or something. No, and I kind of used to, I guess now I just think the whole conversation's silly.

Like I'm a jazz snob, so everything pretty much the only jazz I like is between fifty seven and sixty four roughly, and or anything since then, where they're trying to sound like an album from fifty seven to sixty four. I don't want anything else. That's just my taste.

Yeah, I just I hear modern pop music and I have no interest in ninety percent of it because I just hear it and think, all right, there's A, there's B, there's say I'm waiting for D. Okay, there's D. It's just formulaic, but if you dig it, if it makes you happy.

So just so does every generation just need a new version of the same thing then just an updated version of the same thing. That seems happen with movies, because you know, a movie comes out and I think that's that's this movie from the eighties. You just redid it.

Yeah.

Yeah, I remember a guy really liked at the time. We asked him why he wasn't into Rush, the band, which is one of my all time favorite bands. He said, I guess because I kind of heard Yes do the same thing, and I thought, well, it's not that similar. But no, that's what you're saying. I don't need more formulaic pop. I heard plenty of it, and there was plenty of it in the nineteen sixty four to seventy four, which I've bracketed.

There's plenty of formulated crap pop that people liked.

In music, that which it is most popular is almost never the best. It's just the most popular. The best selling wines in the world suck. They're terrible if you're into wine. But if you're not and you like them, swing it down. What the hell do I care?

I think the best selling jazz album of all time, kind of Blue Miles Davis very well could be the best jazz album of all time. It's hard to say, I'm going to check out practically everything that's on the top ten list though, and give it a good listen today, and it'll be fun to discover some new music. It's a if you have an Apple streaming thing. They've got it posted right at the front. They're trying to make a get a bunch of streams out of this.

How's your stream week?

I think I got low te more on the way.

There are a number of people of very small number, did not appreciate my take on MTG.

Oh really, and everyone knows it, and.

Everyone knows it, and everyone knows it.

You like her act, that's Harry. I gotta stand up for our point of view. I'll just say my point of view. I believe conservatism is the best political philosophy. It's a deep, rich, centuries old philosophy of how to run politics. Marjorie Taylor Green doesn't know anything about that. Nothing. Her yelling at people is not standing up for the political philosophy of conservatism. It's not.

It's very satisfying in a very kind of brain it way.

I get that.

I get it satisfying for her to take on Fauci, or to take on Biden, or take on whoever. But it's not standing up for I think the political philosophy you believe in, in.

Facting it's doing it. It's doing it harm. That's the problem I have.

It's gotten to the point with her where every time she talks, I feel like she's putting on a shell.

She clearly is and making lots of money, and she'll stay in office the rest of for life.

Hello, speaking of cat fights, that one in Congress the other day was entertaining as well, when she took on the woman at the eyelashes and all that built, built butch body was entertaining.

Yeah, oh girl, baby girl, don't even play again.

I'm telling you Space aliens come down side of contract. I want you to just watch us for a while and then give us your opinion whether you think we can govern ourselves.

I promise they would come back and say, oh.

No, no, no, that seems like a horrible idea. No. Oh boy.

So the inside scuttle butt on the wahpoh changing management and philosophy. I want to get to that at some point because it's deeply satisfying.

Yeah, they got rid of their The person was running the group newsroom at Washington Post and I think that's probably good for the whole country. Lots more on the way, stay.

With us, Armstrong and Getty.

According to the IDF, new intelligence confirms the deaths of four more hostages being held by Hamas in Gaza, Kaiam Perry, You're On, Metzger, Imma, Ram Cooper, and not If Papa Well were killed several months ago.

The IDEF has not said how they died.

This comes just days after President Biden's announcement of a new ceasefire proposal, but Prime Minister Benjamin at Yahoo insisting there will be no permanent truce until Hamas is destroyed.

Yeah, practically all of his government seems to be in agreement, at least the people at the top level, that we need to pursue this until we get rid of Hamas. So I think the IDEF releasing this information, the timing of it with the push for a ceasefire, you know, they're wanting to say, hey, let's let's remind y'all what we're dealing with here. So Israel has no interest in Biden's peace plans slash ceasefire, and neither does Hamas, does seem which kind of gets to this article by David Sanger in The New York Times. In Israel and Ukraine, Biden navigates two of America's most difficult allies. President Biden has promised to support the two countries for as long as it takes. But both wars appear to be at crucial turning points. Yeah, that's the problem is that both wars are in a tough spot. By coincidence, both confrontations seem to be at a critical turning point, that moment when it becomes obvious how starkly national interests are diverging, to say nothing of the political interests of all the leaders involved. Adding to the complexity of the problem, it is unclear in Washington exactly what an acceptable endgame would look like in Ukraine or Gaza. Officially, Ukraine still talks about total victory, pushing Russia out of every inch of territory. Israel still speaks of the goal of total destruction of Hamas, but those are unrealistic. Russia's appears to be regaining momentum, and the Israelis just announced that the fighting in Gaza will likely continue to the end of the year, if not longer. So what is what is our official national stance on this?

We'll stick with.

You as long as it takes. Okay, how long is that? And what does what does the end look like? I don't know. I mean, I'm pretty hawkish on both of these wars, but but I don't know the other thing. David Sanger points out that I let me let me jump in here.

I'd love to engage with David because I think, you know, he'd probably have a pretty good answer anytime I hear like Ukraine we're gonna fight till Russia is expelled from every inch of our land, or Israel saying until we completely destroy hamas I always add a dot dot dot or as close as we can get.

You just you never say that out loud.

Right, which I understand from their standpoint. But where does that leave us with our commitment of as long as it takes?

Exactly?

That's where it gets interesting, because you know, if twenty seven years from now there's a single zip code of Ukraine that is still being held by Russia. No, we're not going to be giving all of our bombs an aid and the rest of it for that zip code.

That's where it gets more iffy.

Sanger points out that we're not treaty allies with either one of these countries, so we don't have to. We just think it's in a combination of the world interest and domestic political interest. I guess that's absolutely a.

Calculation, sure, as opposed to some sort of bedrock principle.

But I thought this was interesting that he threw this into the New York Times article on Thursday this last week with the most minimal of public explanation, As is always the case with these, the White House revealed that mister Biden had carved what it turns the narrow exemption to his twenty seventh month long insistence that American weapons can never be shot into Russian territory. He changed his mind, And every time Joe Biden has done this, we're we're not gonna give them bullets. That was the first thing, you know, we can't even give them bullets. Every single thing from bullets to tanks, to the machinery that shoots down planes, what do you call the anti aircraft stuff? All the way through this, it's always been absolutely not that would cause World War three. Then all of a sudden he says okay, and never explains.

Why yeah, yep, and never departs from his inch By inch incrementalism, he's a terrible leader.

Yeah, I don't. I don't know. I don't. I don't know how these are going to turn out. Nobody really knows what Trump's position is on either one of these wars.

Really, you know.

I read a great piece about Biden the other day where the right was pointing out that the worst decision Joe Biden made was to run again, how it was inexcusable given his age especially, and how he'd promised he would be a bridge to the future and just serve one term. And they made the point that he was going to be roundly rejected by the American people as a presidential candidate again for the third time. Except the traditional Democratic power brokers saw Bernie on the rise again and said, holy crap, we got to coalesce around somebody. Nobody hates Biden that much, Right, He's not Trump. Let so let's just go with Biden, and he's an accidental president again who is only in office because of Trump and his issues, the idea that he would run again.

Oh so, Israel is prosecuting its Warren roffas still and in those tunnels, and not a lot of reporting coming out of there. But they're trying to get the last of Hamas and you know, maybe perhaps finding these dead hostages. Who knows how many hostages are still alive, if very many? And how have they been treated? Oh my god, did.

You hear anybody reporting on how did those people die? And when I realize that's not answerable in a really dependable way, but.

You've got to ask the question.

They just reported it's been announced that four more of the Israeli hostages are actually dead. In other news, a heat wave is entered the Western U ask no, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. Were they alive before? Were they executed while Hamas held them? Does this somehow undermine your Israel's got to stop because they're hurting too many people.

Narrative?

Just man, the dearth of truth seekers in the media is a little discouraging.

Well, I think I thought it was on CNN on Jake Tapper Show, where they had some family members of other currently held hostages and who knows if they're alive or dead, pleading with Netanyahu's saying this is on the news of finding out these four had died. This is proof that we need to cease fire now to save our families, you have to do it, and which makes no rational sense to me whatsoever? I mean even if I was a family member. Uh, I don't know that that makes sense to me. I don't. I don't think if you call for a cease fire, Hamas is going to give them back. I wouldn't believe that.

Why would they? What's what's what's your leverage?

Yeah? I have so much sympathy for those people. Sure, it's a terrible position to be in. But I'm trying to picture and I can't think, what's my leverage? What is our leverage if we stop fighting that they're going to give back the hostages Now they're not. They're just going to take this time to like redig in, rearm refeed themselves.

Yeah.

Yeah, if they wanted it to end, they would give They would have given them back the hostages already.

Oh right, Yeah.

Israel's made a number of generous offers for exchanges and the rest of it. Hamas has rejected them for a specific reason. It's because the hostages are much more useful, you know, in their position than not possession, than not.

Right and keeping the hope that they're alive and you can get them back is like the only thing they've got going for Mamas.

I appreciate people who are gentle spirits and run their lives based on emotion and the rest of it, because we need them. But if you're going to be coldly rational, you can absolutely make the argument that virtually anything that Israel did in the direction we've been talking about would be rewarding hostage taken absolutely in a way that's just completely wildly unacceptable. And I say that with understanding of how horrible that is on a human level, but it's just, you know, we do need our gentle spirits who live their lives based on emotion, but by God, when things turn ugly, you better have people who are coldly rational or you're doomed.

Right of thing. Bit of a side, but related, still reading the New Cold Wars, and I'm in the chapters now about the beginning of the war in Ukraine, and it's a lot of interesting stuff that I didn't know. For instance, we were aware that Russia was serious about invading Ukraine months before it actually happened. Great Britain believed us, none of our other European allies believed us, and the Ukrainians didn't even believe so Zelenski didn't even believe it or didn't want to believe it. Well, look it's happening, it's coming. This is what they're doing. We've got you know, we've got intelligence it's going to happen. But anyway, we knew it was going to start because Putin had started other when he took Georgia, when he went into Crimea, the first thing he does is a cyber attack, so we knew that that's what he would lead with, which is what he did. We got our best cyber people into Ukraine two months before the war started, and we were in like every part of that country, government stuff, private stuff, whatever, shoring it up against what we thought would rush his best tools best we could. Like, we didn't know that at the time. I didn't know that at the time. So that's part of why Kiev didn't fall in two days like everybody was predicting, was we had we had laid out the very very best stuff we have in terms of protecting against the full on cyber attack. Putin wasn't as successful as he thought he would be with the initial cyber launch, Yeah, which is pretty interesting. The other thing is in this we did kind of know but the YouTube comedian President Zelensky, which is easy to forget that that's what happened. Is a YouTube comedian who played the president and people are like, why not might as well? I mean kind of when they voted for him, and then he ends up in this situation with the war. But he was not seen as a very good leader. He didn't. He just seemed over his head, his poll ratings were, and when the war started, he turned into a different person, Like he is one of those examples throughout history of people having greatness thrust upon them or growing into it or whatever. The only thing I could compare it to in the descriptions of people just seeing him like just like he just changed. And our government was hardcore trying to convince him to leave. Look, we'll get you out, we'll get you to Paris or whatever, we'll set you. I'm not leaving. I'm not going anywhere. And his own government was trying to convince him to leave, and he finally at one point said, look, I'm not going anywhere. You're not going anywhere. Nobody bring this up again. We are staying and we are fighting. And he just became this person. And the only thing I can compare it to is books I've read about Stonewall Jackson, one of the great military leaders in our nation's history that unfortunately fought for the South in the Civil War. But he was this laughed at, geeky professor at a little college that nobody had any respect for whatsoever. But when the war came, he he was went full time in the military and just grew into something that nobody saw coming could imagine. And I think Zelensky is a similar character. Nobody knows exactly what is inside them until you're presented with a certain situation.

Oh yeah, yeah.

And I just partly because of my contempt for the conventional politician, I'm not surprised that somebody who dedicated their life to political humor is somehow less qualified than some cynical, effing lawyer.

But I totally a point.

I totally get your point that he'd had no opportunity to show that sort of you know, iron resolve, and it's really it's a notable thing.

And yeah, when it comes to I'm going to stay here and fight and maybe I'll die, but I'm staying here versus leaving. Why would you think a YouTube comedian is less qualified for that than some guy who's been in the grubby game of politics their whole lives.

Right, fashion their whole life to gain political power, and it's perks. Yeah, I need to read more about Stonewall Jackson. I think you turned me on a book about it, but I didn't finish it, or I can't do that, a man.

That is a great book.

What's it called?

I will look it up. I will look it up and have it when we come back. And Moby Dick, I believe by Harmon Melville call me Ishmael. It starts with which is a weird start for a book about Stonewall Jackson.

I got to finish that book because I read quite a bit of it and hadn't even gotten to the beginning of the Civil War.

It was all ships and whales.

We don't finish strong. Next, the average person wastes two plus hours doom scrolling every day. The average person. Now, I do this for a living, and I don't know what of my searching stuff would count as doom scrolling versus research for the show. But if you don't do this for a living.

When you say the average person spends two hours, do you might mean that they found the average person.

Intelligence?

Wait, five nine knowledge, one ninety humor, And that's how much they spend on the internet.

Or are you saying among people.

Who scroll doom scroll, it's a pretty average amount of time.

This would probably be pretty easy to do, or I've probably been done. The average person, So the average person would probably be a woman. Is there more women than that?

Let's go ahead and have a man and a woman.

Okay, there are only two sexes, by the way, two sexes.

The word is sex, now gender. I'll go back just because it's so. The average man is probably five to ten. It's a little shorter than that, I believe, but five nine one is something overweight?

Now probably three ten or so.

Probably average probably eats fast food to three times a week. Definitely shops at Walmart and or Target, drinks white Claw and.

No, I didn't we learn the other day that it was like high thirties, low forties the percentage of people who eat fast food. So the average person does not eat fast What do you think they eat.

Them other food?

I don't know slow foods well for the average though with it so with rosaries, no, they eat So what is like your Red Robins or Chili's are those considered.

Fast food they're eating there? Yeah, because those places are packed full average people who just got back from Walmart.

Yeah, the usual restaurants as opposed to fast food.

Sure. Yeah, Now we were going to.

Talk about the WAPO, but there's no time.

Any drives on and listen to the Armstrong and Getty Show. That's what the average person does.

Thank you for listening, Joe, Average.

We appreciate it.

I'm inspired every single day by the remarkable work that Jack and Joe perform on behalf of the American public. They've got a busy day Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and so on. They have carefully prepared for these final thoughts, and the fact of the matter is they have final thoughts, and they have them every single day.

That's really good it is. Here's your host of final thoughts, Joe Getty.

Hey, let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew. To wrap things up for the day. There is our technical director, Michael Angelo leading us off.

Michael, this is a message for all our young graduates. You hadn't got your hard shoes or your fancy clothes yet, go out and get them now. You don't want to be the one going to your graduation wearing bowling shoes.

That's funny you mentioned that, Michael. In just a couple hours, I'm taking my son to get his first tie and hard shoes.

Katie Green are esteemed newswoman. As final thought, Katie, I haven't had fast food in a long time.

It's delicious.

I had it over the weekend, did not feel well afterwards.

No, if you if you don't, if you haven't accustomed your body to it, it does not treat you well. In rebels, I.

Admire you with heroin addict.

Yeah.

Uh, jack final thought for.

Us, So this average guy that we were describing, is he the one is the average guy in the left lane not realizing he's supposed to move over? Or is the average guy the one behind them angry? Well?

I think the angry guy problem doesn't take many jackasses to screw things up.

True.

My final thought is I didn't get to this really clever scam, but we can certainly do it tomorrow. I got an email from a guy who's talking about a scam that does what that Mayorkist tape does. It takes your voice, analyzes it and then you can type in whatever and have it do it via Ai and he and a bunch of people, and he cites examples now have taken their custom voicemail off of their their smartphone or their cell service. Just go with the standard one. This number is not available. Please leave a message.

Obviously that's not gonna work for us, but interesting no. Armstrong and Getty wrapping up another grueling four hour workday.

Your website is armstrong in geeddy dot com. Many fine clicks.

See you tomorrow. God bless America. He's a gentleman of America.

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Turtle, ne can get I'm embarrassed, I'm ashamed. They deserve our contempt. They also deserve our mockery.

That's not what I was told.

And when it's over, it is over. It is over. So everybody chills.

Okay, thank you everybody.

And on that possibly nightmare inducing note, thank you all very much. Have a terrific day. Armstrong and Getty

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