Jamila Rizvi and Astrid Edwards are joined by Min Jin Lee to discuss triumph in literature. The hero’s journey has shaped fiction since before we called it that. Is the heroine's journey different?

• Chapter 1: Min Jin Lee joins Jamila and Astrid from New York to discuss her novel Pachinko and explore the different ways her female characters experience success and triumph. 
• Chapter 2: Rodham by Curtis Sittenfeld.
• Chapter 3: Rising Strong by Brené Brown.
• Recommendations: Astrid recommends The Enlightenment of the Greengage Tree by Shokoofeh Azar and No Friend But the Mountains by Behrouz Boochani. For children, Jamila recommends We're All Wonders by R. J. Palacio.

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This podcast is brought to you by Future Women and Penguin Random House Australia. The podcast is produced by Bad Producer Productions.