And that's what you really missed with Jenna and Kevin An. iHeartRadio podcast. I'm Jenna, I'm Kevin, and this is and that's what you really missed. I wasn't gonna eat the opportunity to say some other version hijacked what this show is. I was trying to think of it. It's fine. It's great to be here with you, Jenna. This is great to be here with you. This is very exciting. This is, you know, another big episode for Argentina. It's right, yeah, these are our favorites because we can talk about ourselves, right, so much fun. This was a really fun one, especially because we get to see Kevin Dean. Yes, and I wish I went when we get to it, I want to get some fan reaction. I want them to write in and tell us what they thought, because I have questions. Oh yeah. So this episode is season one, episode nineteen, dream On. It originally aired on May eighteenth, twenty ten, which was almost to the day, the year anniversary of the pilot premiering after the American Idol finale and how far we've come? How far? Like you know, Ryan said, I remember after one of those initial parties, after the premiere who I think Chris and Chenowith asked him, like, oh well, Kevin never like get up and sing and dance. He's like, no, that's never going to happen. I remember that yep cut. Two year later, here I am. We are dancing tales oldest time. Don't put the idea in Ryan's head because he doesn't forget. I also watched a little bit of the Glee tour last night online and he brought back a lot of memories. Now I remember the songs that we performed because the other one is fresher in my mind. So this was a good good I was like, I forgot they did boys mine. I forgot they did we did too jobs. I forgot. Yeah, we didn't do as many shows, so the other one was much more ingrained in our bodies. That's right, that's right. So this time, so this was the anniversary and May twenty to twenty second, we kicked off our first three our three night gig at the Gibson rip Amphitheater at Universal CityWalk, and that was fun because we were on home turf. It was nice to be sleeping in your own bed and then going to the theater or the right as a theater and performing the show and it was just such a fun, fun experience to be back at home. And if you go to Universal Studios in La now that's now Hogwarts, That's right. So the Gibson got knocked down to become Hogwarts. So whatever do you remember, though, Kevin? In between shows one day we asked them I think it was Amber who was like, can we go on some of the rides? And they were like, um, maybe, and we were like, we all want to go on our rights And then we started bugging everybody and they got security to take us to like the back lot tour and we we did Jurassic Park, right, I think we Jurassic Park. We yep, Mommy was a big one. We didn't we do the studio a lot tours? Did we do that? I don't remember. Yeah, we were very excited. Were we doing matinees? I think we had done to a two day, two show day to day do two doche there we go there is yeah, which I know. Jamie Lee Curtis said she wishes bands would do matinee's on the performance side of it personally when you have so normally cats don't have matinees on both glee tours. We had matinees because they were really trying to get their money's worth for the allotted time they had us under contract. Tell me what the audiences were like, Kevin, Look, it's not just on our end doing a matinee. And you can talk about this Janet as doing theater. Yeah, where it is a slog to get your body geared up to be at a ten by one pm. Correct, because and especially when you're doing music or doing a concert, you people normally make music late at night. It is very much a nighttime thing. People are out there drinking or doing whatever. And you feel that when you're on stage because the audience reacts completely differently and nine times out of ten and audience in the middle of the day also feels that way. And so when you're on stage, you're feeding off what the audience is giving you and at one pm they're not giving you a ten. I can turn that. I will say as a mom Aftu concert sound lightful. No, Logistically it makes a lot of sense, and especially for children's concerts, Yes, But performance and energy wise, it's brutal. It's brutal. It is brutal, and especially because if you've done a show the night before. That's a half of the time of the turnaround you normally, Yeah, you're flemmy, you're tired, it's still light out. There's just a lot of things, so I know, when the sun goes down, it's it's time to go, like you're you're ready to go, And when the sun's up mid day, like you just had lunch and you're gonna go, it's weird. Yeah, I agree. However, I will say this was a different tour, but Toronto. If there's anybody in Toronto listening, greatest of all time matinee crowd, yea we had they brought to matinees and yes, if that matinee was not louder than any of the evening shows because they were bringing it. And I think if you look somewhere on YouTube, I think I mentioned that as well. Well. The Canadians are just nice people, so they give us what we need. Yeah, you're right, all right. So that was the tour where there will be more tour later and um okay, I have a lot of notes for this this episode, just because there's so many memories that I didn't want to forget. Yes, all right. This episode was directed by Joss Wheden. This was pre Avengers right very early like post Buffy, Yes, um, what was the other? It was shortly after this where he sort of took all those first two Avenger movies character movies and then he crafted what we know today to be the Avengers and did the first Avenger movie. And he also was very musical. He was a very musical guy. So this was like, you know, just directorially, like right up his alley. And we also had he interacted with us very differently than any director had up to this point. This was our nineteenth episode, and so we sort of had a rhythm. We had a series of the same directors coming right now. And when he came in, because you and I had also like a lot of sensitive scenes in this that he do you remember this? He came to base camp, he pulled us out for a acting rehearsal which never happened never, and took us up to the dance studio of the Tin Shed and we worked on that scene with the tapping and where you fall. Yeah, And he just showed so much care and thoughtfulness, and I think you're able to do that when you're just coming in for one episode like this and you have the time to plan and do it, and the script is written. And I was going to say, clearly the script was on time, Yes, exactly. M Yeah, we'll get to that. Uh, this is a big episode. There's a lot happening. Brian Ryan is here, you know, Patrick Harris, who Josh has worked with UM in other things, and Um, Kevin is a dance and Shelby Corkoran has lots to do Our Greenwitch, Dinna man zeal And. Yeah. So the songs in this episode are dream On by Aerosmith wild Um, the Safety Dance Dance by Men Without Hats, and I dreamed a dream by the castline. It's very exciting. And then dream a little dream. That's right, Dream a little dream, Kevin. You had a lot, a lot of recording to do, and this I did. But it was one afternoon actually, oh it was one evening pre a Glee dinner at the Chateau Marmont. Oh really, yeah, pretty usual. I had a slight meltdown, which you know standard. Um. Both my voice just didn't feel great, you know, some days it just doesn't feel great. And yeah, and I did Safety Dance first, and because actually it was sort of like talking, it was harder. It was harsher on my voice, I think, and then you get into this really soft and you're like, oh well my voice is now gone. So but I was really excited. I remember talking to Amber at that dinner about how I was trying to make Dreamy Little dream Um sound older, you know, like do a different vibrato and things like that. I was very excited for the vocal challenge. It was okay, it was a great little number. Also, is that just the most like sampled and used song now and everything? I think every commercial I hear in every restaurant, It's just everywhere. There's a billion different versions of it. Yes, Yes, that's a great there's an episode summary. Do you want to talk about it? Sure? So, Will's former high school nemesis classic Brian Ryan shows up and causes some trouble for the glee club. Mm hmmm, that's no good. Then Rachel struggles with a lifelong personal issue, plus Artientina your favorites try to find a way for Artie to live his dream of walking again. Oh well dancing really right, that's what it is. So let's get into it. Well, let's talk about Brian Ryan. Let's talk about Brian Ryan. Um, so we learned that that's Will's arch and ousts from high school and he just happens to be on the school board and he wants to cut the glee club. Well, yeah, he wants to cut the glee club. He has to cut funding from the arts somewhere, from some extracurricular thing, and obviously, because he hates Will, it's most likely going to come from there, that's right. So he comes in and he talks to all of us and the a choir room scene where he says, you know, most of you probably want to pursue this and want to do this, and you know you shouldn't. You you shouldn't because you're not going to succeed. He's a drein killer. He had us actually write down on pieces of paper what it is we want already obviously wrote he wants to dance. What were some of the other ones? Um, I have a threesome, not have stretch marks, and and then Tina. He breaks Tina basically yeah, and this was the first time that I had to cry. This is one of the first of many that will come. See, here's the thing. You do something and you do it too well, that's right, and they're just gonna keep having you do it because Tina cried one time and she never stopped crying. Run it into the ground. We did, Yes, that's we did. It's also not that easy for me to cry on you, like I can do it, but it takes a while for me to get there. So this was not something that was like in my back pocket, like I could cry out of one eye like Rachel Barry. But anyway, that's the beginning of that. So Will is like, what boo, he's Brian, Ryan's wrong. So I just had a memory. Yeah, do you remember when we filmed this, Neil Patrick Harris had hosted the Oscars the day before. Well, this was also the one when we want to the parties the night before, so everyone it was so if you go watch that scene, Neil Patrick Harris looking fresh and rested, glowing, had hosted the Oscars, the biggest award ceremony of the year, and everybody, including him and us, we're out pretty late, not party, praying, partying or drinking water. Yeah, no, we were. And Mondays is the earliest call. So normally on Mondays you have like a girls have like a five thirty am call. We were there, and we were in that choir room. That was the first team we did with them. It was the jacket one, right, yeah, first up, first up for him and for Joss and for everybody. We were just looking puffy. Neil Patrick Harris got an Emmy for this, so he's fine. And he did great, like he looked glowy. Um. Yes, good memories though. I remember sitting there being like, how is he doing this? I know we were like I I have no lines and I'm barely truly, I think I think there was somebody they will rename, real name, will remain Wow, Okay, they will remain nameless. You try and say that um fell asleep on the back wall. So this is why I remember. Because there is a shot of us and somebody looks very sleepy, more sleepy than the others. And yea, she her eyes were barely. She loves to dance. She does love to dance. She loves to dance. There's a couple of girls who would regularly fall asleep in all right, So they go they go to a bar, right, they go to the bar. Umar because Weill was just like, look, you're wrong about this. I remember how good you or like and let me take you out and refresh your memory about how rewarding this is. Like, let me just remind you. And so Will takes him out to this bar, reminds him how they used to sing together. Will and Brian talk about their crushes and Brian's like, oh, I love that Terry Delmonico girl, and He's like, oh I married her. What a last name? Right? It also makes me hungry for steak. Um. And then and then they do this. You know, there was a lot of live singing in this episode that never happens. So when they are when Neil Patrick Harris is singing in the flashback scene, um, he is singing live. And then when they go to the bar and they do Piano Man, they're singing live again. You're like, oh, yes, I have these musical theater pros sing live because they sound incredible. Do you know why was that just the request or was that Joss or what do you remember? I'm not sure, but I think it's because they're singing to track, like they're singing over like piano Man was singing to the actual song. Right, it's not supposed to sound super predict no, yeah, and it sounds great and that could have been a Jos thing. Jos was very much about. Even though he's famous for doing sci fi shows, he was very much into grounding this show correct. So then you know, Brian Ryan and Will hit it off, and it was like, look, they're doing lay miscasting. You should audition with me because I'm going to audition, Like, let's reignite this flame. So they go to audition for it, and all of a sudden, their nice little moment, you know, the reprieve of hating each other is ended because they realized they're doing the same audition song, and so we get a very good duet. Brian Ryan copies Will. Yes, It's like, that's funny, I'm doing that. Yeah, that's funny, I'm doing that. And then the guy says do it as a duet, which would never happen. But I feel honored to have watched that number. It's wild. That is a crazy high song. And it made me think of something that Ryan said in our last interview with him, where people forgot that the show was a satire. Right, you know, you watch a lot of it and you take it so seriously, like why are they doing this? Watch Will Schuster and Brian Ryan do this number like Matt with his hand over his face. This show is a satire people, right, that's right, that's right, And it is very much like a local theater thing, like yeah, I run the dry cleaners. You have thirty minutes? Like can we I don't care? Can we just do this? You guys like who? So they do this incredible number. I also found out my boyfriend Austin performed this version of this song in high school with his theater rival. No, He's like, I did this song in high school. Lets do it? I was like, was it this version? And then we were watching it together and he started doing the ad libs the Glee version ads like, oh, so what was this version? Because I guess so, Oh my gosh, sometimes you don't you're doing the Glee versions. Oh that's so sad, and I'm so sorry that he had to. That was it? Yeah? So Brian and Sue, um, we're supposed to be like we're Cotton Glee Club. We've both were taking him down. We're taking the Little Shoester down. But Brian Ryan decides he changes his mind and decides to cut some of the Cheerio's budget instead, and Sue tells will U that he got the lead in lay Miss in front of the glee club and in front of Brian and Ryan, embarrassing his ass. And Brian got a townspeople role, which I will say I played a townsperson in Lame is my freshman year of high school. Yes, um, and so Ray who Ray? Ray? So good? Um? But then what was the quote? He says to Brian says to Sue, you're an impressive woman. I can't tell how much she turned me on right now. You ever heard of the term anger sex? And she says it's the only kind I know. Brian. Brian says, I should tell you I'm married, as she says, not a problem for me. Um. So Brian decides to cut the program because he gets mad it Will Um forgetting the part, and then we bribe him essentially without doing it, and Will gives Brian Ryan the part Jeanjean so that he can save his preciously clan and then we're back to square one like it never happened. It's a one off. Okay, he's not available for any other traps. MPa just needed that guest star, Immy, you know, he's like calls his agent's look, I need a guest star. I mean which show, yes, but like we know the one. So the other thing. One of the other things that's going on this episode is during that classroom scene where Brian Ryan is having everyone write down their dreams, Artie writes and he wants to become a dancer because Tina took it out of the trash bin when I wanted to get my book bag. By the way, who calls it a book bag. It's like a pocket book. Yeah, that sounds like a Long Island thing. All right, sorry to interrupt you, No, you're good. And so Tina is like, come on, fess up, what's the situation here? Why first of all, to do lie about wanting to be an answer because that's not what already said originally, And then she's like, I got the proof. I have the receipts for you. And so then they get together and she's trying to help him live this fantasy and they decide to do a tap number with the little tapping things on the wheels, which, oh, it doesn't really work. The thing about a wheel is that it needs to be round, and to think about adding the little tapper things on is that they're not. And so it was were not the most practical, well thing, do you remember what? So this was. I'm glad it turned out this way. But initially Zach had said to the writer's room, what if we have Tina do a sexy tap number with like canes and top hats and have her and tap around. Now, I'm not the best tapper, but I can take it till I make it in an audition. You don't have to look like you're doing it. And it turned into this, it actually was, and we'll get to dream. We'll dream of me. That's a soft shoe number. That's not a tap number. That was a soft shoe number. I don't have taps on my shoes and neither do Harry. But anyway, it's supposed to look like it. That's movie magic. For the storyline, Yeah, for the storyline regardless. I'm happy that this worked out because you get to dance. But um so, so you're tapping, You're trying to tap. Tina's trying to help you live out your dreams of being a dancer, and and you're like, I can do it, I can walk, I can get up and use these things from I have some crushes laying around, right, don't worry about it right, and you fall and it's really sad. I was really insecure about filming this scene, and so when Joss made us rehearse this, I was also, you know, is that thing that I was dreading the one scene in the script I didn't want to do. I didn't feel confident in my acting ability to be emotional and dramatic comedy is much more comfortable for me to live in the seriousness, especially when you're surrounded by so many good dramatic actors. When you are in a scene and Chris colfor can just cry and is so good, and I remember talking to Dante, one of the producers, being like, oh, I think that take was bad, and he had to sort of talk me off the ledge and he was like, do you think Chris is better than you because he can cry? And I was like, yes, he's better than me, because he's better than me. And while I do think he is much better than me, Dante said something as executive producers sort of you need to step in and do these things every now and then and calm your actor headcase down, which was me, and you know, just gave me some nice notes of being like, no, that's not how this works. You're bringing this, this and this and blah blah blah, and Joss equally was the sweet about it. Yep, and like, because it was a really sensitive dramatic scene, Joss would come in and talk like this and he would just he would get down when I was on the floor, he would he would get down on his knees and like just whisper in my ears like okay, I'll try this, and would just say a word. And it sounds crazy right now, but when you're doing those scenes and you're sowing your head and you're in the moment and you're doing it over and over again, you're like, am I giving enough? I have nothing enough to give? And he'll come in and be like just think of this and he'll say where you're like, you're right, that change and he did that every scene. Great. But we got through that scene and I thought you and I did a really nice job of this whole episode, Jenna. I was really proud of this nice. I thought you did a good job. I thought Josh really helped to guide us because we were still so green in terms of all of this. And now I look at back at that and I'm like, I cringe, but at my choices. But I wasn't looking at it from a director's point of view, which I would now, I was looking at it from an actor's point of view, which is like totally different. Um I wish I had that, you know, in hindsight, that like foresight basically yeah, But um no, I thought we did a great job in terms of like where we were in our lives and like and just having the support we did. I was nervous for that number as well, or for that scene in Jos would be like is there anything you need? Is there anything you need? Which is so nice. Not every actually you know director will do that, and especially like crying and things like that, like he's like you quiet, you know, do you need a quiet on set? Blah blah blah. Sometimes you just have to go off into a corner because like there's eighteen other young people who don't have to cry that day that are just like laughing and doing all this stuff and it's very hard anyway, great job, Kevin. Likewise, I think there's also something when we talked about this with Paris too, when you know you're in the hands of somebody who you can really trust, where like Josh had directed so much TV and created so much TV that he like he was a TV legend, so we knew we were in good hands and could just sort of trust him and also be intimidated by him at the same time. Totally. Yeah. So Tina is then like, look, I've done all this research on spinal cord injuries. You're she's really trying to help Artie. And they're at the mall, which is really cute. I love that we see people at the mall. And then do you remember we filmed that shot as actually outside the mall, not at the school with those with the school buses and the sunflair. I yelled sunflair when I saw it. Josh was so excited. It was just one take where we had the sunflair just happened to be in the right position at the right time. Yep. You know. I have to say watching people kiss is really awkward and uncomfortable, and it's not a good testament to tell if you're a good kisser. I thought ours looked pretty damn good, if I do say so much. Solf the that was like, you could tell we've done this before. That's not too strangers. Maybe that's right. Yeah, yeah, God, sorry, um, And so in the mall, all of a sudden, this is what I want to address. All of a sudden, it goes into a dream sequence without acknowledging that it's a dream sequence. All of a sudden's like, hey, ye I've been trying all those therapies and look and I get up out of the wheelchair and I do this line that I was like, really I want to do? Is damn? And I was. It hit me And I didn't feel this obviously when I watched it the first time because I'm too biased in it, But like, what the hell did people think when that happened all of a sudden? Because it looks the same, It looks natural, it looks like, oh, he's just getting up. I think that's the idea who was supposed to trick? Yeah? Yeah, but were people like what the Oh? I'm sure and they're probably really people who would get mad that they're like, what, he can just get up and ma walk right right? And then there were other people who probably were like what this is amazing? So yeah, I'm sure, but yes, okay, so this is where your questions come in. Yes, I just because I really felt for a second of how bamboozled or like slapped across the face an audience might feel when you're watching that. But I mean, yeah, the mad the whole point is is that it does feel like it's not a dream sequence until it is. And this isn't the craze of the flash mobs. Right in the middle of flash mobs being such a huge thing, wedding proposals and ye marriage proposals and at schools and malls and it was everywhere. And so we did it, and Joss had that really cool idea of filming it and all these different types of cameras and you see that, you see people actually doing it. It felt real. They filmed it unreal phones. Like Andrew Mitchell said in that interview with him, we filmed it on a mall that had like a fish market right off the bottomore. Yeah, where we were filming, when we were laying on the floor, that part we were facing like where the camera was in front of the fish market. So where I was performing to was directly into this fish market people were coming in and out of and it just smelled. It smelled so bad. And we shot a couple of things at that mall. Buy that fish market did, and it was smelly, especially that time. I remember that one especially. And then your family was there. Yeah, my mom and my sister happened to be in town or I don't know. If I coordinated this in advance, I don't know, but I didn't tell them what we were doing, and I said, come to this mall we're shooting. It's easier, you know, to have someone visit when we're on location like that, because it's a public place. And jes see, and I remember them when we were filming down on the floor, you didn't see anything else. They were standing up on the ledge that you see later on above the escalators, yep. And I remember right before take looking up and like waving at them and they're just saying hi. And then all of a sudden, I do the whole huge dance number with like eighty billion backup dancers, and after I look up at them and they're crying. Oh. They were like, you sign up a big us because they know how much I love to do that and love to perform in that way, and so they were just really excited that I got to do it. And I remember watching it too. I can tell I'm not confident doing it. I felt like I was not used to having the attention or spotlight on me. I remember even showing up to dance rehearsal. They had a whole because there were so many dancers, we had a whole different the same sound stage we used to rehearse in for a jump to all the mattresses. So we had this gigantic empty sound stage, all these dancers, and they were all waiting for me to show up because I was also filming. And then all of a sudden, staff yeah, and I was very, very uncomfortable. I was like, I am very happy being supporting Roland. Yeah, give me my two lines per episode. I am not used to this. But it was fun. It was It was so much fun. It's such a great number and we can talk about that when we get to the tour. I love that everybody was in it too. Yes, I just like all the Glee club was in it, and that was so sweet. Everyone looks so happy. I don't know if it was acting, but it was just fun. It was. We were so happy to that you got to dance. We got to watch you do that, and we knew how happy you were, and it was just a big happy black mom yeah, it was great. Then Artady goes to Emma and shares the research that her, you know, him and Tina had found and he's like, when I start walking again, and there's this kind of magical, hopeful thinking. That's very sad, and Emma has to kind of take Alreadie back down to earth and tell him the truth of like what you know, what the reality truly is. And so that was really sad. And that leads to Alreadie telling Tina in a very sweet scene that she should find a new dance partner. And I remember this scene to Joss being like this, you should be very quiet, you should get down on his level. And yeah, it was very specific with his vision. He wasn't forcing anything, but it was just very clear. And I remember shooting this and and then we go into dream a little dream with Tina and Mike Chang, and this is the beginning of Tina and Mike chan tell us about your fake tap number, your soft shoe number. So this is wasn't my big tap sexy tap number. And it turns really sad. Sad, She's not sad. I just mean how everybody is acting in the scene is really sad. Yeah, everybody has their own story line going on. This is a very true Colors moment. I guess where everybody's sitting in their little things, um semi circle. We rehearse this probably one day, on one short day, I think, maybe twice, and it was very quick and as Harry's not a tap dancer, No, but here's a dancer, and he looks better than I do because my arms are swamping arms the whole time. It's just very cringey. And that is not my thing, like I like express my express yourself, that's my thing. Like this was not my thing at all, partnering being solo danced. It should have been Heather like me. And those are my dance shoes though from college and no way, yeah, that I'm wearing and they're not tap shoes. And Zach had to go in and in post production and do the tapping the sound. It was it all Zach. I was wondering who was doing that. It's all Zack. I can't imagine how meticulous and draining that must be to match up the taps to that number. Well, let me tell you it's very We weren't even nearly doing the proper tapping anyway, so we really just had to look like it. But we didn't learn in the actual taps off shoe number. And it's very simple, basic moves. Anybody can do it them if I can do them. So um anyway, that was the Yeah, it was a very quick thing. And I have these pictures from it that I can share from Adam Rose, who was our onset photographer, who's lovely, and I had some of these rehearsals, but I was like, this is annoying because this looks I know, I look terrible. I was just really annoyed. But that beautiful scene, that beautiful shot at the end of you in the foe, you know, in the foreground, and then us in the background. It was just really sad. It was a movie. It was a movie, and and that's it. So wait, but do you remember the line when you say I sound like someone put te she's on a horse and she. I love that line. And I think you and Harry sold the tap dancing, you know whatever, whatever, give me swamp hands all day. I love it. So the only thing that's happening in this episode, there's several there's like a reveal within a reveal. It's like when a drag queen takes off a wig and there's another wig underneath. That's what happens with this storyline. So Jesse Saint James, who was on the spring break apparently comes back and encourages Rachel to, you know, find her dream. What's her dream? She says she wants to find her mom, but she doesn't know how. She just knows that her dads have information in the basement. So Jesse's like, then let's go do it. And so there's this really I love the scene of of a trill and Jesse going through things, and then Rachel keeps referring to Patti Lapone as mother. Well, mother was here on this day. Yes, that was a very funny little vignett. Yeah, I love that. And then she also talks about how she has a theory that her mom is burned at Peter's and like, you know, I get it. Who wouldn't want them as your mom. So while this is happening, they find a tape and there and it says from mom, and Rachel's like what is this? And she freaks out and she can't listen to it, even though Jesse's like, you should do it, and he's like, she was like, no, no, you need to leave. So then cute I love when there's like Mistery Shenanigan's happening. It's raining and it's dark, and it's in a car always, it's always raining in the car and Jesse comes in the car and who's there but Shelby. And then we find out that Shelby because the whole thing with Jesse and Rachel is like, is this real love? Because in the beginning, where like everyone in the glee club is fairly certain that Jesse's up to no good, right, and now it's been weeks and we've forgotten about it and they do just like each other. Right. Nope, this whole thing has been a plan of Shelby's because Shelby directed Jesse to go become friends, not necessarily become lovers. But Jesse's you know, saying that, well, he thinks he's starting to actually have feelings for her. And it also turns out that it's Shelby's dream, even though she's legally bound to not do this, to somehow have Rachel find out she's her mother a wig on a wig A reveal after a reveal, And so what happens is Jesse goes back to Rachel's and gets her to play that damn tape. Well, Shelby's very adamant requests to the d yes, so Rachel listens to the day and of course we go into some beautiful dream sequence of I dreamed a dream, and which is pretty stunning. It was and this too wasn't like the big wavy um and they do look oddly similar. It's so crazy, um. And they basing this beautiful duet of I dreamed a Dream. Rachel says, when they're looking through the boxes, this quote, um, my first singing competition. I came in first place. And Jesse says, you were eight months old, and Rachel says, I was very musically vable. I also like when you're looking at the sonogram and he says, it looks like you're in fifth position. And that's that's dream on, folks. That is dream on. What a fun episode to do. I also, as an overall creative stylistic note, did this episode feel darker in terms of like how it was colored or how it was shot? Like the whole thing feels darker to me, And I'm wondering if that was like a Joss decision. Yes, you definitely, definitely looked a bit a little different, right, yeah yeah, yeah, yet so Tarty takes Jenna, let's do it. Cringe moments aka Paris Berkeley out cheese, I don't know I either. Actually weren't that many cringe moments in this episode for me, except for in the Brian Ryan storyline. Just the the married whole Brian Ryan married Sue thing was kind of like the cringeest thing of the episode, to be honest, I think that was, um, it's been worse than other episodes. I think also we can do this with worst Dance Move. I think Brian Ryan and Will Schuster there sort of rivalry and competitiveness and singing is cringey in like a different way, like a funny comedic way, like they're cringey because they're both like what do you You're both grown ass men upset about a glee club, Like can you calm down in a community theater? Yeah, and they're jumping around this stage like they're like okay on the bron Wood. I think we should do best dance move, and I vote safety dance, thank you very much. Would I would agree. I think some of that soft shoe was very nice. Jenna hair was really getting on the extension of those arms in those hands. He was really I know, because he's a dancer, professional professional. Okay, best song this song? Um obviously safety Dance. Yeah, Safe Dance. I don't like that song generally speaking, but it's the sentiment behind the actual It was really fun to get to do. Yeah, it was best performance by a prop, Kevin, you think I'm a prop? Jenna, wait till we get the episode to the episode props. Oh, yeah, the best performance by a prop. I think the little tappers on my wheelchair were pretty great. That's good Shelby's tape to Rachel. That means I actually did a lot. Yeah, that was an actual problem. Best lines, best line I think my favorite line honestly is John Groff saying you look like you're in fifth position at a sonogram. I gotta say, I feel like all I want to do is dance, Jenna, I hate you. Just the wall of CD players as well. Also, it was like, yeah, let's take out those burned CD and it in this wall of CD play. Get your zipber CD case out in your car. Okay, should we found on TikTok It is the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty three and somebody's having a Glee Night at like a proper venue in New York City. I don't understand. If you go on TikTok, it's Glee Night tour and they're throwing like a full I think they're gonna be playing like music videos. It's a full party of all Glee music in twenty three. What is happening? What is? I think it's hilarious and great, but I had no idea this was a thing. But we've been tagged on Twitter and on TikTok everywhere. Yes, is that a big venue? Yeah, it's a very popular Like what what? I'm perplexed? Yeah, Also, like are we invited? What's the deal? What's the plan? I guess if you go to Glee Knight, send VIDs, send pics. Didn't happen? Um? Great? Yeah, I think that's great. There's also a really cute video. So Chris Carmack, who's co stars with Harry on Craze, took a video of Harry videoing him dancing just to get his reaction, because you know, Harry's a professional, as we've learned with that fake tap dancing, and that's also very cute, and Harry looks the exact same. He does look he looks younger. Actually. You know, this was a viral thing though, because they were it was parents videoing asking their kids to video them dancing, and but they turned the camera around on them, so you actually get the kids reactions, which is very sweet and and very like innocent and young on fun. And then Harry did it and Harry doesn't look so pleased. Harry has no christ is dancing. It's wild, you know, it's very funny. It's very funny, and they look like having a great time on set. I know we shouldn't go visit. I would just lose my marbles. That is, And that's what you really missed for this week. Everyone, Thank you for joining us, and come back for next week's recap. Theatricality. It's a good Lady Gaga, the beginning of the Lady Gaga right over Glee, and thanks for listening. And that's what you really missed by see you. Thanks for listening, and follow us on Instagram at and that's what you really miss pod. Make sure to write us a review and leave us five stars. See you next time.

And that's what you really missed with Jenna and Kevin An. iHeartRadio podcast. I'm Jenna, I'm Kevin, and this is and that's what you really missed. I wasn't gonna eat the opportunity to say some other version hijacked what this show is. I was trying to think of it. It's fine. It's great to be here with you, Jenna. This is great to be here with you. This is very exciting. This is, you know, another big episode for Argentina. It's right, yeah, these are our favorites because we can talk about ourselves, right, so much fun. This was a really fun one, especially because we get to see Kevin Dean. Yes, and I wish I went when we get to it, I want to get some fan reaction. I want them to write in and tell us what they thought, because I have questions. Oh yeah. So this episode is season one, episode nineteen, dream On. It originally aired on May eighteenth, twenty ten, which was almost to the day, the year anniversary of the pilot premiering after the American Idol finale and how far we've come? How far? Like you know, Ryan said, I remember after one of those initial parties, after the premiere who I think Chris and Chenowith asked him, like, oh well, Kevin never like get up and sing and dance. He's like, no, that's never going to happen. I remember that yep cut. Two year later, here I am. We are dancing tales oldest time. Don't put the idea in Ryan's head because he doesn't forget. I also watched a little bit of the Glee tour last night online and he brought back a lot of memories. Now I remember the songs that we performed because the other one is fresher in my mind. So this was a good good I was like, I forgot they did boys mine. I forgot they did we did too jobs. I forgot. Yeah, we didn't do as many shows, so the other one was much more ingrained in our bodies. That's right, that's right. So this time, so this was the anniversary and May twenty to twenty second, we kicked off our first three our three night gig at the Gibson rip Amphitheater at Universal CityWalk, and that was fun because we were on home turf. It was nice to be sleeping in your own bed and then going to the theater or the right as a theater and performing the show and it was just such a fun, fun experience to be back at home. And if you go to Universal Studios in La now that's now Hogwarts, That's right. So the Gibson got knocked down to become Hogwarts. So whatever do you remember, though, Kevin? In between shows one day we asked them I think it was Amber who was like, can we go on some of the rides? And they were like, um, maybe, and we were like, we all want to go on our rights And then we started bugging everybody and they got security to take us to like the back lot tour and we we did Jurassic Park, right, I think we Jurassic Park. We yep, Mommy was a big one. We didn't we do the studio a lot tours? Did we do that? I don't remember. Yeah, we were very excited. Were we doing matinees? I think we had done to a two day, two show day to day do two doche there we go there is yeah, which I know. Jamie Lee Curtis said she wishes bands would do matinee's on the performance side of it personally when you have so normally cats don't have matinees on both glee tours. We had matinees because they were really trying to get their money's worth for the allotted time they had us under contract. Tell me what the audiences were like, Kevin, Look, it's not just on our end doing a matinee. And you can talk about this Janet as doing theater. Yeah, where it is a slog to get your body geared up to be at a ten by one pm. Correct, because and especially when you're doing music or doing a concert, you people normally make music late at night. It is very much a nighttime thing. People are out there drinking or doing whatever. And you feel that when you're on stage because the audience reacts completely differently and nine times out of ten and audience in the middle of the day also feels that way. And so when you're on stage, you're feeding off what the audience is giving you and at one pm they're not giving you a ten. I can turn that. I will say as a mom Aftu concert sound lightful. No, Logistically it makes a lot of sense, and especially for children's concerts, Yes, But performance and energy wise, it's brutal. It's brutal. It is brutal, and especially because if you've done a show the night before. That's a half of the time of the turnaround you normally, Yeah, you're flemmy, you're tired, it's still light out. There's just a lot of things, so I know, when the sun goes down, it's it's time to go, like you're you're ready to go, And when the sun's up mid day, like you just had lunch and you're gonna go, it's weird. Yeah, I agree. However, I will say this was a different tour, but Toronto. If there's anybody in Toronto listening, greatest of all time matinee crowd, yea we had they brought to matinees and yes, if that matinee was not louder than any of the evening shows because they were bringing it. And I think if you look somewhere on YouTube, I think I mentioned that as well. Well. The Canadians are just nice people, so they give us what we need. Yeah, you're right, all right. So that was the tour where there will be more tour later and um okay, I have a lot of notes for this this episode, just because there's so many memories that I didn't want to forget. Yes, all right. This episode was directed by Joss Wheden. This was pre Avengers right very early like post Buffy, Yes, um, what was the other? It was shortly after this where he sort of took all those first two Avenger movies character movies and then he crafted what we know today to be the Avengers and did the first Avenger movie. And he also was very musical. He was a very musical guy. So this was like, you know, just directorially, like right up his alley. And we also had he interacted with us very differently than any director had up to this point. This was our nineteenth episode, and so we sort of had a rhythm. We had a series of the same directors coming right now. And when he came in, because you and I had also like a lot of sensitive scenes in this that he do you remember this? He came to base camp, he pulled us out for a acting rehearsal which never happened never, and took us up to the dance studio of the Tin Shed and we worked on that scene with the tapping and where you fall. Yeah, And he just showed so much care and thoughtfulness, and I think you're able to do that when you're just coming in for one episode like this and you have the time to plan and do it, and the script is written. And I was going to say, clearly the script was on time, Yes, exactly. M Yeah, we'll get to that. Uh, this is a big episode. There's a lot happening. Brian Ryan is here, you know, Patrick Harris, who Josh has worked with UM in other things, and Um, Kevin is a dance and Shelby Corkoran has lots to do Our Greenwitch, Dinna man zeal And. Yeah. So the songs in this episode are dream On by Aerosmith wild Um, the Safety Dance Dance by Men Without Hats, and I dreamed a dream by the castline. It's very exciting. And then dream a little dream. That's right, Dream a little dream, Kevin. You had a lot, a lot of recording to do, and this I did. But it was one afternoon actually, oh it was one evening pre a Glee dinner at the Chateau Marmont. Oh really, yeah, pretty usual. I had a slight meltdown, which you know standard. Um. Both my voice just didn't feel great, you know, some days it just doesn't feel great. And yeah, and I did Safety Dance first, and because actually it was sort of like talking, it was harder. It was harsher on my voice, I think, and then you get into this really soft and you're like, oh well my voice is now gone. So but I was really excited. I remember talking to Amber at that dinner about how I was trying to make Dreamy Little dream Um sound older, you know, like do a different vibrato and things like that. I was very excited for the vocal challenge. It was okay, it was a great little number. Also, is that just the most like sampled and used song now and everything? I think every commercial I hear in every restaurant, It's just everywhere. There's a billion different versions of it. Yes, Yes, that's a great there's an episode summary. Do you want to talk about it? Sure? So, Will's former high school nemesis classic Brian Ryan shows up and causes some trouble for the glee club. Mm hmmm, that's no good. Then Rachel struggles with a lifelong personal issue, plus Artientina your favorites try to find a way for Artie to live his dream of walking again. Oh well dancing really right, that's what it is. So let's get into it. Well, let's talk about Brian Ryan. Let's talk about Brian Ryan. Um, so we learned that that's Will's arch and ousts from high school and he just happens to be on the school board and he wants to cut the glee club. Well, yeah, he wants to cut the glee club. He has to cut funding from the arts somewhere, from some extracurricular thing, and obviously, because he hates Will, it's most likely going to come from there, that's right. So he comes in and he talks to all of us and the a choir room scene where he says, you know, most of you probably want to pursue this and want to do this, and you know you shouldn't. You you shouldn't because you're not going to succeed. He's a drein killer. He had us actually write down on pieces of paper what it is we want already obviously wrote he wants to dance. What were some of the other ones? Um, I have a threesome, not have stretch marks, and and then Tina. He breaks Tina basically yeah, and this was the first time that I had to cry. This is one of the first of many that will come. See, here's the thing. You do something and you do it too well, that's right, and they're just gonna keep having you do it because Tina cried one time and she never stopped crying. Run it into the ground. We did, Yes, that's we did. It's also not that easy for me to cry on you, like I can do it, but it takes a while for me to get there. So this was not something that was like in my back pocket, like I could cry out of one eye like Rachel Barry. But anyway, that's the beginning of that. So Will is like, what boo, he's Brian, Ryan's wrong. So I just had a memory. Yeah, do you remember when we filmed this, Neil Patrick Harris had hosted the Oscars the day before. Well, this was also the one when we want to the parties the night before, so everyone it was so if you go watch that scene, Neil Patrick Harris looking fresh and rested, glowing, had hosted the Oscars, the biggest award ceremony of the year, and everybody, including him and us, we're out pretty late, not party, praying, partying or drinking water. Yeah, no, we were. And Mondays is the earliest call. So normally on Mondays you have like a girls have like a five thirty am call. We were there, and we were in that choir room. That was the first team we did with them. It was the jacket one, right, yeah, first up, first up for him and for Joss and for everybody. We were just looking puffy. Neil Patrick Harris got an Emmy for this, so he's fine. And he did great, like he looked glowy. Um. Yes, good memories though. I remember sitting there being like, how is he doing this? I know we were like I I have no lines and I'm barely truly, I think I think there was somebody they will rename, real name, will remain Wow, Okay, they will remain nameless. You try and say that um fell asleep on the back wall. So this is why I remember. Because there is a shot of us and somebody looks very sleepy, more sleepy than the others. And yea, she her eyes were barely. She loves to dance. She does love to dance. She loves to dance. There's a couple of girls who would regularly fall asleep in all right, So they go they go to a bar, right, they go to the bar. Umar because Weill was just like, look, you're wrong about this. I remember how good you or like and let me take you out and refresh your memory about how rewarding this is. Like, let me just remind you. And so Will takes him out to this bar, reminds him how they used to sing together. Will and Brian talk about their crushes and Brian's like, oh, I love that Terry Delmonico girl, and He's like, oh I married her. What a last name? Right? It also makes me hungry for steak. Um. And then and then they do this. You know, there was a lot of live singing in this episode that never happens. So when they are when Neil Patrick Harris is singing in the flashback scene, um, he is singing live. And then when they go to the bar and they do Piano Man, they're singing live again. You're like, oh, yes, I have these musical theater pros sing live because they sound incredible. Do you know why was that just the request or was that Joss or what do you remember? I'm not sure, but I think it's because they're singing to track, like they're singing over like piano Man was singing to the actual song. Right, it's not supposed to sound super predict no, yeah, and it sounds great and that could have been a Jos thing. Jos was very much about. Even though he's famous for doing sci fi shows, he was very much into grounding this show correct. So then you know, Brian Ryan and Will hit it off, and it was like, look, they're doing lay miscasting. You should audition with me because I'm going to audition, Like, let's reignite this flame. So they go to audition for it, and all of a sudden, their nice little moment, you know, the reprieve of hating each other is ended because they realized they're doing the same audition song, and so we get a very good duet. Brian Ryan copies Will. Yes, It's like, that's funny, I'm doing that. Yeah, that's funny, I'm doing that. And then the guy says do it as a duet, which would never happen. But I feel honored to have watched that number. It's wild. That is a crazy high song. And it made me think of something that Ryan said in our last interview with him, where people forgot that the show was a satire. Right, you know, you watch a lot of it and you take it so seriously, like why are they doing this? Watch Will Schuster and Brian Ryan do this number like Matt with his hand over his face. This show is a satire people, right, that's right, that's right, And it is very much like a local theater thing, like yeah, I run the dry cleaners. You have thirty minutes? Like can we I don't care? Can we just do this? You guys like who? So they do this incredible number. I also found out my boyfriend Austin performed this version of this song in high school with his theater rival. No, He's like, I did this song in high school. Lets do it? I was like, was it this version? And then we were watching it together and he started doing the ad libs the Glee version ads like, oh, so what was this version? Because I guess so, Oh my gosh, sometimes you don't you're doing the Glee versions. Oh that's so sad, and I'm so sorry that he had to. That was it? Yeah? So Brian and Sue, um, we're supposed to be like we're Cotton Glee Club. We've both were taking him down. We're taking the Little Shoester down. But Brian Ryan decides he changes his mind and decides to cut some of the Cheerio's budget instead, and Sue tells will U that he got the lead in lay Miss in front of the glee club and in front of Brian and Ryan, embarrassing his ass. And Brian got a townspeople role, which I will say I played a townsperson in Lame is my freshman year of high school. Yes, um, and so Ray who Ray? Ray? So good? Um? But then what was the quote? He says to Brian says to Sue, you're an impressive woman. I can't tell how much she turned me on right now. You ever heard of the term anger sex? And she says it's the only kind I know. Brian. Brian says, I should tell you I'm married, as she says, not a problem for me. Um. So Brian decides to cut the program because he gets mad it Will Um forgetting the part, and then we bribe him essentially without doing it, and Will gives Brian Ryan the part Jeanjean so that he can save his preciously clan and then we're back to square one like it never happened. It's a one off. Okay, he's not available for any other traps. MPa just needed that guest star, Immy, you know, he's like calls his agent's look, I need a guest star. I mean which show, yes, but like we know the one. So the other thing. One of the other things that's going on this episode is during that classroom scene where Brian Ryan is having everyone write down their dreams, Artie writes and he wants to become a dancer because Tina took it out of the trash bin when I wanted to get my book bag. By the way, who calls it a book bag. It's like a pocket book. Yeah, that sounds like a Long Island thing. All right, sorry to interrupt you, No, you're good. And so Tina is like, come on, fess up, what's the situation here? Why first of all, to do lie about wanting to be an answer because that's not what already said originally, And then she's like, I got the proof. I have the receipts for you. And so then they get together and she's trying to help him live this fantasy and they decide to do a tap number with the little tapping things on the wheels, which, oh, it doesn't really work. The thing about a wheel is that it needs to be round, and to think about adding the little tapper things on is that they're not. And so it was were not the most practical, well thing, do you remember what? So this was. I'm glad it turned out this way. But initially Zach had said to the writer's room, what if we have Tina do a sexy tap number with like canes and top hats and have her and tap around. Now, I'm not the best tapper, but I can take it till I make it in an audition. You don't have to look like you're doing it. And it turned into this, it actually was, and we'll get to dream. We'll dream of me. That's a soft shoe number. That's not a tap number. That was a soft shoe number. I don't have taps on my shoes and neither do Harry. But anyway, it's supposed to look like it. That's movie magic. For the storyline, Yeah, for the storyline regardless. I'm happy that this worked out because you get to dance. But um so, so you're tapping, You're trying to tap. Tina's trying to help you live out your dreams of being a dancer, and and you're like, I can do it, I can walk, I can get up and use these things from I have some crushes laying around, right, don't worry about it right, and you fall and it's really sad. I was really insecure about filming this scene, and so when Joss made us rehearse this, I was also, you know, is that thing that I was dreading the one scene in the script I didn't want to do. I didn't feel confident in my acting ability to be emotional and dramatic comedy is much more comfortable for me to live in the seriousness, especially when you're surrounded by so many good dramatic actors. When you are in a scene and Chris colfor can just cry and is so good, and I remember talking to Dante, one of the producers, being like, oh, I think that take was bad, and he had to sort of talk me off the ledge and he was like, do you think Chris is better than you because he can cry? And I was like, yes, he's better than me, because he's better than me. And while I do think he is much better than me, Dante said something as executive producers sort of you need to step in and do these things every now and then and calm your actor headcase down, which was me, and you know, just gave me some nice notes of being like, no, that's not how this works. You're bringing this, this and this and blah blah blah, and Joss equally was the sweet about it. Yep, and like, because it was a really sensitive dramatic scene, Joss would come in and talk like this and he would just he would get down when I was on the floor, he would he would get down on his knees and like just whisper in my ears like okay, I'll try this, and would just say a word. And it sounds crazy right now, but when you're doing those scenes and you're sowing your head and you're in the moment and you're doing it over and over again, you're like, am I giving enough? I have nothing enough to give? And he'll come in and be like just think of this and he'll say where you're like, you're right, that change and he did that every scene. Great. But we got through that scene and I thought you and I did a really nice job of this whole episode, Jenna. I was really proud of this nice. I thought you did a good job. I thought Josh really helped to guide us because we were still so green in terms of all of this. And now I look at back at that and I'm like, I cringe, but at my choices. But I wasn't looking at it from a director's point of view, which I would now, I was looking at it from an actor's point of view, which is like totally different. Um I wish I had that, you know, in hindsight, that like foresight basically yeah, But um no, I thought we did a great job in terms of like where we were in our lives and like and just having the support we did. I was nervous for that number as well, or for that scene in Jos would be like is there anything you need? Is there anything you need? Which is so nice. Not every actually you know director will do that, and especially like crying and things like that, like he's like you quiet, you know, do you need a quiet on set? Blah blah blah. Sometimes you just have to go off into a corner because like there's eighteen other young people who don't have to cry that day that are just like laughing and doing all this stuff and it's very hard anyway, great job, Kevin. Likewise, I think there's also something when we talked about this with Paris too, when you know you're in the hands of somebody who you can really trust, where like Josh had directed so much TV and created so much TV that he like he was a TV legend, so we knew we were in good hands and could just sort of trust him and also be intimidated by him at the same time. Totally. Yeah. So Tina is then like, look, I've done all this research on spinal cord injuries. You're she's really trying to help Artie. And they're at the mall, which is really cute. I love that we see people at the mall. And then do you remember we filmed that shot as actually outside the mall, not at the school with those with the school buses and the sunflair. I yelled sunflair when I saw it. Josh was so excited. It was just one take where we had the sunflair just happened to be in the right position at the right time. Yep. You know. I have to say watching people kiss is really awkward and uncomfortable, and it's not a good testament to tell if you're a good kisser. I thought ours looked pretty damn good, if I do say so much. Solf the that was like, you could tell we've done this before. That's not too strangers. Maybe that's right. Yeah, yeah, God, sorry, um, And so in the mall, all of a sudden, this is what I want to address. All of a sudden, it goes into a dream sequence without acknowledging that it's a dream sequence. All of a sudden's like, hey, ye I've been trying all those therapies and look and I get up out of the wheelchair and I do this line that I was like, really I want to do? Is damn? And I was. It hit me And I didn't feel this obviously when I watched it the first time because I'm too biased in it, But like, what the hell did people think when that happened all of a sudden? Because it looks the same, It looks natural, it looks like, oh, he's just getting up. I think that's the idea who was supposed to trick? Yeah? Yeah, but were people like what the Oh? I'm sure and they're probably really people who would get mad that they're like, what, he can just get up and ma walk right right? And then there were other people who probably were like what this is amazing? So yeah, I'm sure, but yes, okay, so this is where your questions come in. Yes, I just because I really felt for a second of how bamboozled or like slapped across the face an audience might feel when you're watching that. But I mean, yeah, the mad the whole point is is that it does feel like it's not a dream sequence until it is. And this isn't the craze of the flash mobs. Right in the middle of flash mobs being such a huge thing, wedding proposals and ye marriage proposals and at schools and malls and it was everywhere. And so we did it, and Joss had that really cool idea of filming it and all these different types of cameras and you see that, you see people actually doing it. It felt real. They filmed it unreal phones. Like Andrew Mitchell said in that interview with him, we filmed it on a mall that had like a fish market right off the bottomore. Yeah, where we were filming, when we were laying on the floor, that part we were facing like where the camera was in front of the fish market. So where I was performing to was directly into this fish market people were coming in and out of and it just smelled. It smelled so bad. And we shot a couple of things at that mall. Buy that fish market did, and it was smelly, especially that time. I remember that one especially. And then your family was there. Yeah, my mom and my sister happened to be in town or I don't know. If I coordinated this in advance, I don't know, but I didn't tell them what we were doing, and I said, come to this mall we're shooting. It's easier, you know, to have someone visit when we're on location like that, because it's a public place. And jes see, and I remember them when we were filming down on the floor, you didn't see anything else. They were standing up on the ledge that you see later on above the escalators, yep. And I remember right before take looking up and like waving at them and they're just saying hi. And then all of a sudden, I do the whole huge dance number with like eighty billion backup dancers, and after I look up at them and they're crying. Oh. They were like, you sign up a big us because they know how much I love to do that and love to perform in that way, and so they were just really excited that I got to do it. And I remember watching it too. I can tell I'm not confident doing it. I felt like I was not used to having the attention or spotlight on me. I remember even showing up to dance rehearsal. They had a whole because there were so many dancers, we had a whole different the same sound stage we used to rehearse in for a jump to all the mattresses. So we had this gigantic empty sound stage, all these dancers, and they were all waiting for me to show up because I was also filming. And then all of a sudden, staff yeah, and I was very, very uncomfortable. I was like, I am very happy being supporting Roland. Yeah, give me my two lines per episode. I am not used to this. But it was fun. It was It was so much fun. It's such a great number and we can talk about that when we get to the tour. I love that everybody was in it too. Yes, I just like all the Glee club was in it, and that was so sweet. Everyone looks so happy. I don't know if it was acting, but it was just fun. It was. We were so happy to that you got to dance. We got to watch you do that, and we knew how happy you were, and it was just a big happy black mom yeah, it was great. Then Artady goes to Emma and shares the research that her, you know, him and Tina had found and he's like, when I start walking again, and there's this kind of magical, hopeful thinking. That's very sad, and Emma has to kind of take Alreadie back down to earth and tell him the truth of like what you know, what the reality truly is. And so that was really sad. And that leads to Alreadie telling Tina in a very sweet scene that she should find a new dance partner. And I remember this scene to Joss being like this, you should be very quiet, you should get down on his level. And yeah, it was very specific with his vision. He wasn't forcing anything, but it was just very clear. And I remember shooting this and and then we go into dream a little dream with Tina and Mike Chang, and this is the beginning of Tina and Mike chan tell us about your fake tap number, your soft shoe number. So this is wasn't my big tap sexy tap number. And it turns really sad. Sad, She's not sad. I just mean how everybody is acting in the scene is really sad. Yeah, everybody has their own story line going on. This is a very true Colors moment. I guess where everybody's sitting in their little things, um semi circle. We rehearse this probably one day, on one short day, I think, maybe twice, and it was very quick and as Harry's not a tap dancer, No, but here's a dancer, and he looks better than I do because my arms are swamping arms the whole time. It's just very cringey. And that is not my thing, like I like express my express yourself, that's my thing. Like this was not my thing at all, partnering being solo danced. It should have been Heather like me. And those are my dance shoes though from college and no way, yeah, that I'm wearing and they're not tap shoes. And Zach had to go in and in post production and do the tapping the sound. It was it all Zach. I was wondering who was doing that. It's all Zack. I can't imagine how meticulous and draining that must be to match up the taps to that number. Well, let me tell you it's very We weren't even nearly doing the proper tapping anyway, so we really just had to look like it. But we didn't learn in the actual taps off shoe number. And it's very simple, basic moves. Anybody can do it them if I can do them. So um anyway, that was the Yeah, it was a very quick thing. And I have these pictures from it that I can share from Adam Rose, who was our onset photographer, who's lovely, and I had some of these rehearsals, but I was like, this is annoying because this looks I know, I look terrible. I was just really annoyed. But that beautiful scene, that beautiful shot at the end of you in the foe, you know, in the foreground, and then us in the background. It was just really sad. It was a movie. It was a movie, and and that's it. So wait, but do you remember the line when you say I sound like someone put te she's on a horse and she. I love that line. And I think you and Harry sold the tap dancing, you know whatever, whatever, give me swamp hands all day. I love it. So the only thing that's happening in this episode, there's several there's like a reveal within a reveal. It's like when a drag queen takes off a wig and there's another wig underneath. That's what happens with this storyline. So Jesse Saint James, who was on the spring break apparently comes back and encourages Rachel to, you know, find her dream. What's her dream? She says she wants to find her mom, but she doesn't know how. She just knows that her dads have information in the basement. So Jesse's like, then let's go do it. And so there's this really I love the scene of of a trill and Jesse going through things, and then Rachel keeps referring to Patti Lapone as mother. Well, mother was here on this day. Yes, that was a very funny little vignett. Yeah, I love that. And then she also talks about how she has a theory that her mom is burned at Peter's and like, you know, I get it. Who wouldn't want them as your mom. So while this is happening, they find a tape and there and it says from mom, and Rachel's like what is this? And she freaks out and she can't listen to it, even though Jesse's like, you should do it, and he's like, she was like, no, no, you need to leave. So then cute I love when there's like Mistery Shenanigan's happening. It's raining and it's dark, and it's in a car always, it's always raining in the car and Jesse comes in the car and who's there but Shelby. And then we find out that Shelby because the whole thing with Jesse and Rachel is like, is this real love? Because in the beginning, where like everyone in the glee club is fairly certain that Jesse's up to no good, right, and now it's been weeks and we've forgotten about it and they do just like each other. Right. Nope, this whole thing has been a plan of Shelby's because Shelby directed Jesse to go become friends, not necessarily become lovers. But Jesse's you know, saying that, well, he thinks he's starting to actually have feelings for her. And it also turns out that it's Shelby's dream, even though she's legally bound to not do this, to somehow have Rachel find out she's her mother a wig on a wig A reveal after a reveal, And so what happens is Jesse goes back to Rachel's and gets her to play that damn tape. Well, Shelby's very adamant requests to the d yes, so Rachel listens to the day and of course we go into some beautiful dream sequence of I dreamed a dream, and which is pretty stunning. It was and this too wasn't like the big wavy um and they do look oddly similar. It's so crazy, um. And they basing this beautiful duet of I dreamed a Dream. Rachel says, when they're looking through the boxes, this quote, um, my first singing competition. I came in first place. And Jesse says, you were eight months old, and Rachel says, I was very musically vable. I also like when you're looking at the sonogram and he says, it looks like you're in fifth position. And that's that's dream on, folks. That is dream on. What a fun episode to do. I also, as an overall creative stylistic note, did this episode feel darker in terms of like how it was colored or how it was shot? Like the whole thing feels darker to me, And I'm wondering if that was like a Joss decision. Yes, you definitely, definitely looked a bit a little different, right, yeah yeah, yeah, yet so Tarty takes Jenna, let's do it. Cringe moments aka Paris Berkeley out cheese, I don't know I either. Actually weren't that many cringe moments in this episode for me, except for in the Brian Ryan storyline. Just the the married whole Brian Ryan married Sue thing was kind of like the cringeest thing of the episode, to be honest, I think that was, um, it's been worse than other episodes. I think also we can do this with worst Dance Move. I think Brian Ryan and Will Schuster there sort of rivalry and competitiveness and singing is cringey in like a different way, like a funny comedic way, like they're cringey because they're both like what do you You're both grown ass men upset about a glee club, Like can you calm down in a community theater? Yeah, and they're jumping around this stage like they're like okay on the bron Wood. I think we should do best dance move, and I vote safety dance, thank you very much. Would I would agree. I think some of that soft shoe was very nice. Jenna hair was really getting on the extension of those arms in those hands. He was really I know, because he's a dancer, professional professional. Okay, best song this song? Um obviously safety Dance. Yeah, Safe Dance. I don't like that song generally speaking, but it's the sentiment behind the actual It was really fun to get to do. Yeah, it was best performance by a prop, Kevin, you think I'm a prop? Jenna, wait till we get the episode to the episode props. Oh, yeah, the best performance by a prop. I think the little tappers on my wheelchair were pretty great. That's good Shelby's tape to Rachel. That means I actually did a lot. Yeah, that was an actual problem. Best lines, best line I think my favorite line honestly is John Groff saying you look like you're in fifth position at a sonogram. I gotta say, I feel like all I want to do is dance, Jenna, I hate you. Just the wall of CD players as well. Also, it was like, yeah, let's take out those burned CD and it in this wall of CD play. Get your zipber CD case out in your car. Okay, should we found on TikTok It is the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty three and somebody's having a Glee Night at like a proper venue in New York City. I don't understand. If you go on TikTok, it's Glee Night tour and they're throwing like a full I think they're gonna be playing like music videos. It's a full party of all Glee music in twenty three. What is happening? What is? I think it's hilarious and great, but I had no idea this was a thing. But we've been tagged on Twitter and on TikTok everywhere. Yes, is that a big venue? Yeah, it's a very popular Like what what? I'm perplexed? Yeah, Also, like are we invited? What's the deal? What's the plan? I guess if you go to Glee Knight, send VIDs, send pics. Didn't happen? Um? Great? Yeah, I think that's great. There's also a really cute video. So Chris Carmack, who's co stars with Harry on Craze, took a video of Harry videoing him dancing just to get his reaction, because you know, Harry's a professional, as we've learned with that fake tap dancing, and that's also very cute, and Harry looks the exact same. He does look he looks younger. Actually. You know, this was a viral thing though, because they were it was parents videoing asking their kids to video them dancing, and but they turned the camera around on them, so you actually get the kids reactions, which is very sweet and and very like innocent and young on fun. And then Harry did it and Harry doesn't look so pleased. Harry has no christ is dancing. It's wild, you know, it's very funny. It's very funny, and they look like having a great time on set. I know we shouldn't go visit. I would just lose my marbles. That is, And that's what you really missed for this week. Everyone, Thank you for joining us, and come back for next week's recap. Theatricality. It's a good Lady Gaga, the beginning of the Lady Gaga right over Glee, and thanks for listening. And that's what you really missed by see you. Thanks for listening, and follow us on Instagram at and that's what you really miss pod. Make sure to write us a review and leave us five stars. See you next time.