And that's what you really missed with Jenna and Kevin an iHeartRadio podcast. Welcome to you, and that's why you really missed ask me anything part I don't know, we've done asked me anythings with Ryan and what kind of and Jane and are So this is version one thousand. Yeah, that's just another one, another one. Okay, thank you for submitting all your questions. Again, we got thousands, so many questions. So many do you need to despite some people just write in people's names. It's like Cord Danna darn right. Okay, that's not a question. But yes, I agree. Um, let's let's let's just speed round, Jenna, let's get to as many of these as possible. Whoa, Okay, let's go. Yeah, let's give the people what they want. Jenna. Were you aware of all the Glee merch? We were not. I mean, there are some things that we saw and obviously on or we saw some things, but um, the amount of things that I'm learning about now that are out there, it's, um, it's mind blowing. So no, I was not. I was not. Um, Kevin, Yes, what song would Artie and Tina sing if there was a reboot? Oh oh um, oh man, what god, what do you think? Um? I don't hear what were we sign good together on? Well? What's in the top forty right now? I mean, oh, I don't know, Like I would love that would be funny. Yeah, I think you're right. I think you're probably right. That's yeah. You know, sometimes it's just you hear it and you're like, oh yeah, of course. Um did the cast ever break while filming where you had to stop so you could stop laughing? Absolutely, but not that often. The one that comes to mind for me is fix You. Yes see, this is why we tried not to happen have it happened, because we would get in trouble. We do get in trouble. We were filming Fix You, and that has to do this, like you know, he's the lead on vocal on it, and we're in the background doing the ooze, and we all decided to do basically what Leah's bad singing from Laryngite is, but all off key behind Matt as he's got a cry and we're all futzing around because like we don't have anything to do really, and we are singing really poorly. Everybody is laughing so hard. Our shoulders are shaking, probably probably see it. And because everyone else was actually keeping their faces and everything was fine, I was the one whose shoulders were like convulsive and I couldn't had nowhere else to go. I didn't know what to do. She's like Kevin, like she was right behind me. It's got so mad at us, and I was crying. I was. There were tears stream I mean tears streamed on your face. Doing is directed Kevin. Do you have any anger towards Ryan for how hard you worked? I can only speak for me. I don't. I think with the hindsight, I was always very of the mind, and I think maybe this is probably the wrong mentality, just because of how I grew up at a young age in the music business of just say yes and be grateful for the work, and if they're running you into the ground, it's fine. I was so happy to have a paycheck and be able to afford rent, and you know, all those sorts of things. I think we've had really good conversations with him now where he looks back in hindsight and realizes how it did not need to be the way that it was. But I don't know. I am empathetic towards you are a showrunner slash writer, and then all of a sudden you are put in charge of this billion dollar brand, and I don't think correct anyone is trained for that, and I don't think that's ever going to be perfect. Now does that mean? I don't know? I don't know. I feel like there's a gray area and thereof everybody could have been better, done better. But I don't have any sort of anger towards him for that. Well said, you know, did you do you have any anger towards him or do you just want to let me answer that? No, I you know, I didn't. I don't think I had anger towards him about that. I think the bigger thing for me was like when he kind of went away, right and he had to go do his other stuff, and it felt like the show kind of faltered because when he went in some ways, and now that we've had these you know, wonderful honest chats with him, and as you said, like he wasn't equipped or traded. There was no camp to go to how to show run, you know, and like manage a billion or multimillion dollar show. I definitely feel like I've found my um my closure and my like kind of therapy with him and being able to share our honest, you know, feelings of where we all were. So I mean, he's not lying when he says when he comes on here and says, this is like therapy working at all out in real time. Well, and also there's just no mental there was no talk of mental health in the workplace, like we keep saying that, Like had that been a thing, I think we all would have been able to have honest, open conversations where it didn't come from a place where you're like, I'm complaining, I'm not ungrateful, I'm feeling so because back then it felt like because we were in such a position of privilege in many ways that if we were complaining, we were assholes, you know, and like how dare you? So that was kind of the it's just a different time. Yeah. It's also something like we're a part of a union, like actors are in SAG after and it's like they're the amount of people who are actually working regularly within that union is very small, and so to get any opportunity to do work and have consistent work, you just feel like I have to just say yes to it because it is so rare that you get a job, and you get a job that you keep getting to do for six years. Yeah, yeah, exactly. There was another question sort of relevant to that, one of how how many days a week did we shooting? For? How many hours a day? Oh my gosh. Yeah, So I would say the earlier seasons, I think we're a bit crazier. As it went on, we sort of as there was New York in Ohio. You know, schedules were split, so it wasn't as bad. But the first couple of seasons we were working regularly I would say fifteen hours a day, fifteen, sometimes up to seventeen, but regularly I would say fifteen. Well, and additionally we were also shooting a long beach for all of our musical numbers, so it was like a forty hour minute drive for most people. That was the average each way, each way, and so it was just very it felt very aggressive, and we were just I remember so vividly, just constantly hitting my pillow at night and feeling like when I opened my eyes like no time had passed. Yeah, you just close your eyes open as you back to work, You're like where am I? And it was crazy and how it works with those things too. So you start on a Monday, you start early usually you know, five or six am, and then you have a certain number of hours you're allowed to work before the crew cast get overtime. And so what happens is the days start to get later as the week goes on, because you have to have a certain amount of time from when an actor is wrapped for the day. You're just to have twelve hours before they're allowed back onto set, and if you need to fudge that rule, you have to pay for it. There's a penalty for it, so they try not to do that. So therefore, by the end of the week on Friday, we could be starting up one pm. And what does that mean. That means we're going at least until one am Faturday. Faturday, and usually we go late later. And so while we technically didn't shoot on the weekends, we only shot five days a week, we still then had to be there at six am or earlier on Monday. So I'm like, if you're getting home at three or four am on a Friday night, your day Saturday is sort of like a half day because you're sleeping in to recover. I just remember having the luxury of being able to sleep in where most of our crew had family least, that's the time you spend with your family, so like you go home at three, you wake up at six seven to be with your family, and then you go back to work again on Monday at five or six. It's just it's a vicious the energy human industry is really hard fron especially on crews like that because they're the ones who are there all the time. And for us as a Glee cast, we kind of worked like the crew because we were all in every scene all the time or rehearsing or recording or having more job fittings. So yeah, that was it was a lot in the beginning. Did you use stand ins a lot? So the way it works, we're stand ins. There's always stand ins for the principal actors. So if Tina n Lardy are in a scene, say like um, I don't know the episode dream on, they're in a scene, your standing is always there working and a lot of the time the stand in will get the job and then keep the job for our show. And so it's a really solid, insistent work because you know, as long as the show is running and you're available, like you're working for as seeing Tina's stand in or already stand in and yeah, shout out to Kim and somehow you know, it varies sometimes, but yeah, the standings are always on set and then they kind of sit off in when we're working and shooting. And then when we're getting ready for a scene and they're lighting the scene, that's when the stand ins are there standing in our place. Literally, yes, there's a stand in. And then usually when we get to then because what happens if we rehearse the scene and then we go get ready, like Jenna said, and when the stands are there and they're lighting it, sometimes there are little changes to the blocking and so then we get to set after we're all prepared and dressed and makeup and all that, and then they fill us in sort of on what the changes may or may not be. And then each time there's a new camera setup, if the camera moves to a different part of the room, whatever, then again standings come back in and we leave so they can work. Do you have a favorite competition song? Oh, you know, I have a soft spot for Oh God, what is the one you and Darren did? What have um? Boston m a feeling a feeling, yeah, not what a feeling, um more than a feeling, more than a feeling. I think you guys smashed that and also like that whole number was very emotional for a number of reasons. Yes, yes, we have like the tribute to Finn in it, and that I was going to say that's my favorite was still having found what I'm looking for. And that's also when we found out Marco, my ex boyfriend, was coming back to America because he had been trapped out of the country and we were singing the song America. I literally got off the phone with his mom and she told me his like his green car was approved after he had been trapped out of the country for three and a half years. And it was so late at night, and we were so tired, and I had to get back on stage and I just shouted to everyone because everyone was in on it. They everyone knew the situation, and we were shooting America Wow, and the song I did not love. And then you better believe I was shouting that number out loud like I was going So that's and yeah, I think that was probably my favorite set of Yeah, that's funny. I love that one. Yeah, great. We had a lot of fun doing those with that new crew. Is there any chance that tell Him gets released? I picked that one, Kevin, because I know how much you love it and I thought that was really funny. Wait, can I do something I legal right now? Are you gonna play? Can I play it off of my phone? I don't know, but I feel like if you play just like three seconds, we won't get in trouble? Right? Which part should I play? I'm gonna play? Don't know, honestly, I'm getting so trouble, but you don't know what you're missing? What a number? I'm gonna sad like some sort of SoundCloud and just put it on there. Um and also love the way you lying, which I'm not gonna Oh my god, it's so good. Um. Do you have a playlist of your favorite lay songs? Okay? Um? I don't, But do you think we should make Let's make one? Okay, I inspired? How do we do that? How do we make a proper Glee playlist for everyone? We're gonna do that. And that's what you really missed favorites? Okay. I did go on like a Twitter listening spree a while back, like a late night and I'm through all the seasons of like my favorites and like live tweeted them. Oh and we're just like I sounded like shit on this one. Oh, listen, I sounded pretty good. We should do that, um, like a listening party. I actually recently started in the car. I get coffee in the mornings sometimes with Emma and I go and get like a coffee out in the world and I will. There's a Spotify is just ugly all the seasons like in a row, and so I scroll through those and I pick them. So we should do that, all right. What do your go to? Um? Well, Never Going Back Again is one? Really yeah? Um Dog Days is another. Um. I just listened to Bridge Over Trouble Water, um and some Madonna definitely like but and then um and what's the one we did? The friend one? Um never? Yeah? Yeah, I love how we sound on that one. I love Yeah, it's really good. It's a good one. Okay. What are your song of your gots? I do Breakaway a lot lately. That's that's like the past year or so. That's really been I love it. I don't know why I do. I do the hundred episode version of a Loser, like me, Wow, Kevin, Yeah, it's I mean, it's selfish, it's narcissistic. I just know I like the harmonies and the runs that Luke Edgemond had me doing, and it's some of those things. But you know, I'm just like I used to be able to sing right some of those. I was like, wow, I remember when I was like I got to go into a professional booth and like be produced like really well and like beautifully, And you're like, oh, that was cool. I'm gonna go listen some paces after this. Okay, which style of temas did you like best? Oh? My gosh, well, which one did I hate the most? There was a season I think it was before season thing. I think this season two. At the steampunk it's just a lot of lace and a lot of buttons, and I remember at some point being so miserable I wanted to cut myself out of this dress. And I think I looked at you maybe or somebody, and I said, something's gotta change. Something's gotta change. And I talked a little about it, and she was like I was just thinking the same thing, like maybe we can do black a little black dresses and like dress them up with accessories. So they're more comfortable. And I just thought, like, God, if we're going to be here for six more years or five more years, I can't keep doing this. This is so hard, and it's you're in it for so long during the days and you're under bright lights and the makeup it was just it was really bad. So Steve Punk was my least favorite. UM. I liked the mod Gina like when she had the color blocking dresses later later in time, I thought that was really fun, what a great evolution. You know. I was very lucky. I did get to kind of switch up my look um quite often, so that was fun. And I will say there was a question to say, why did Artie never dress better? His old man clothes were too unrealistic? How dare you? I think Artie brought back Normcore. He's a trend setter. U. If you look up the trends, there's a correlation. Lou did that? Oh my god, norm Core. I think also because you are, like what you just said, because you are in these outfits all day. Those outfits were so hot, so hot, and I wearing long sleeves and thick usually wolf sweaters under these very bright and hot lights all day. All day and so eventually they started cutting off my sleeves of the shirts underneath. So I would walk around as soon as we were done, I would take the sweater off in between takes and I would just have this like cut off of this button up shirt. It looked very weird. I think I told you about this in high school. I had to wear a white button down collared shirt in high school, as we're a uniform. Well, when you were in a show, which I was in most of the musicals, you got to wear your show shirt the weekend of the performances. So Thursday Friday at school, you got to wear the show shirt. Your name was on the back, they had the logo on the front. What we would do was, because you technically had to wear your white shirt underneath your show shirt, we would cut the collars and you'd have like a fake like a dickey, Yes, exactly, And I had one that I would put underneath my show shirts so I could just wear a T shirt school, Which is like, what a dream? So smart? What a dream? Okay? Um, if you could give Artie and Tina middle names, what would they be? Well, I would like to give Artie a middle name, and you can give Tina's middle name. Okay, I think your middle name is Archibald Arthur Archibald Abrams Damn. Okay um, I think your middle name is Carolina, Tina Carolina. Yeah, I think that's what you can get on bord with that, and she might go by Carolina she gets older. I don't know. TCCCA, that's what I'm hoping, because it was tcc Jacob Artist at some at some point started to call me to Sissa, Yeah, to Sissa because it was tccum. But I'll take I know, I miss him. He had the best nicknames. He always had so many nicknames for you. He did. He was the king of nicknames for everybody. Jacob Okay, what was it like filming the finale? Devastating? Yeah, it was rough. We cried a lot, a lot, a lot. I remember. It was very celebratory though, it was like they threw that party for us on New York Street. It was like there was a huge like basically amusement park festival. Like they had a band, the nineties band, they had like games and it was really fun. But it was also like so sad because like there was so much time that passed for me personally that I was like just rushing to the end. I was like, get me out of here. I can't wait till this is over, like towards the end, not in the beginning, or like you know, just not being present and then all of a sudden you're like, oh shit, this is going away and we just don't know. This is home for six years. So it's just really a very wild experience. And then just filming everything. And then when Ben are one of our favorites on the camera team, I mean, let's be real, they're all our favorites, but Ben, who would put down our marks every day. The last last day, he put down one of our marks in a scene and everybody just started clapping, like yeah, and this grown British man, this very grown British man, just burst into tears. Yeah, And I was like, oh yeah, we all lost it. But as soon as Ben lost it, we lost it because he is so sweet, quiet, and then it's like, oh no, he's breaking, We're done, goodbye. That was the funny thing, was like that those like that last week one person broke, we all, yeah, if if you keep it together and keep it together, but if one person goes, I think we all. It was bad. That last um song that Matt did, Yeah, brutal. Do you remember we were shooting that and then Cord, Oh god, oh god. He cried thinking about it. Cord all of a sudden, and coord's not afraid to cry it and so when he does, he just let it's heartbreaking and he just stares at you and it's like, oh god, I have that all on tape. It was really bad. We were all just like grabbing each other's hands because we were all sitting in a line too and looking at each other and just losing it. I think I watched it recently, recently recently, but I watched that, and I is in full to yourself. Yes, there's a video of us online when they're wrapping each of us, and you could see that was at the end. We had already been crying for hours. We had started drinking tequila at some point, like we what a day. Yeah, we had had it. On that note. Actually, there's another question somebody asked, did you ever consider quitting the show? So interesting? Um, well, we couldn't if we want to do right. So, um, you know, it's funny because like I'm I think I definitely threatened, like I'm I can't. I'm done, you know, like your just mental state is like I'm done, I've got to get out of here, cut me out. But the actual thought of doing it, I don't think I ever would have done. Yeah, I wouldn't have let you. It's like, you know you're gonna get it together, you're yeah. Um, I mean it was some people wanted to quit, Oh yeah, definitely, and some people did leave, but you know, it wasn't like we couldn't really go without permission. Yeah, I think there was. There were, yeah, a couple of times when like you and you understand, like people will become really famous, and there are opportunities because this is taking up ten months of the year where you can't go do some of these other things. And that's why you see it. It's so common for people to leave TV shows after a couple of seasons because like I needed to start taking these opportunities or they passed by. Look. Yeah, and so I think you know that's that was happening a bit. But yeah, we weren't allowed to leave. I never wanted to quit, but yeah, I know you didn't which season had the best music. Oh that's tough. I really don't know. I don't know that it was a season. I think it was episodes. I mean I think season two. I'm thinking abstractly. I don't really remember, but I would imagine because we haven't gotten it to gotten to it yet. But season two, when we were in the full swing of things, yeah, we broke some songs, you know, like where people hadn't really heard them for the first time, and we got the rights to a lot more songs, right, So it was like Katie Perry, there was Gaga, there was Bruno Mars, there was Robin Thick, Like I think, yeah, that's right. Yeah, two two probably was like we had the budget to get it, we had the prestige and like artists giving us songs and the permission. So yeah, that sounds right. Um, we had a few times for a few where did the nickname be come from? So for those of you who don't know, my nickname, sort of amongst all the Glee folk, right was b and that actually is It's one of those things that makes no sense. But I had I had a friend named Carly pre Glee, and um, she and I had this running joke where we'd make fun of couples who'd be like Beanie Beamie, I'm hot trying the sundown. Yeah, like that kind of thing. And then night and I started doing that on Glee. Would be you know, in between takes or something like maybe why aren't you Mabie, why aren't you hearing me? And then it just short shortened tip be B, and then it came I became B. But then we all sort of like me and whoever, like Leah and I would call each other be Diana and I, Nia and I, Corey and I. The craziest was when Corey did it, because you have this like really big, very straight guy'd be like hey, B. But you'd also be on set and you would be like quiet and like we'd be like lighting a senior waiting for a take to start, and then somebody would just like to raw like a beat in the middle of Yes. I was like, I was at a restaurant I remember a couple of years ago, and I hadn't seen Leah in a while, and I just hear BE and I turned around because that's how you call each other. It's a good way to just cut through the noise. What was your other nickname, Kevin? What was my other nickname? What did that call you, oh, Zach specifically Woodley, he would call me tater, top o, tater or talk. Yes. I love that one. Loved that one. Um, wait, can I ask you a really fun fact question? Somebody presented this and I did not know this, or maybe I had forgotten, But did you know that Diana Agron exists within the world of Glee because Kurt runs for class president and he gives out burlesque DVDs as part of his gifts and his incentives, and Dana was in burlesque. So Diana exists within Glee. That's meta, isn't that? That's meta? I love that. Something like do you know this? Like now the more you know? Top three Kevin Zong, Oh God, don't you never going back again? Py t Well, whatever I call your friend is one of my favorites. Yeah, do that all right? I'm going with that for now. Great, that's a solid three. That is pretty good three. But there's so many other ones. I mean, like Empire State of Mind. I don't know did you shoot scenes chronologically? No? We did not. No, it was timing money. They would try to like get if we were going breadsticks and there are two scenes you do the back to back like it was kind of it was just for efficiency and production? Um correct? Did your partners watch Glee before meeting you? Yes, David watched it, and then when we met on hand, she thought he was being catfished because he was like Tenick from Las Campy. Ye here, I am, um, what has been your favorite episode? I have you watched so far? Man? Was it SmackDown or throw down? I laughed a lot. That was really inappropriate that one. But I think power of Madonna. Maybe I was going to say Madonna is there and and Prager's is definitely one of them as well in my memory. Um, one or two more, Kevin, one or two more? All right? Oh? How did the cast celebrate birthdays on the show? Well, it was always fun um crafty or production would always get you cake if your birthday landed in the production scare. I never did so. I never got a cake. Oh did you get a particularly get a cake on tour or anything? We did do a birthday. We did your birthday, We saw you. We definitely saw my birthday. Kevin did your birthday? Oh? Yeah, but we know they bring you a cake. And I never got my own cake because Harry and I shared a birthday, so Karen, I would always get a shared cake. It's like having a sibling you or like your birthday landing on like a holiday. Um. Um, Jennet, you have two Tony's that you want for producing? Do you enjoy acting or producing theater more Current State twenty twenty three, March March of twenty twenty three parties producing. Yeah, but you're so good at both. Oh that's very kind, very kind. Um. Oh so um. Someone asked, did we have any famous fans of Glee that we are surprised watch the show? Yes, they're so. Our first Golden Globes was very enlightening experience because yeah, that's right. We were on the red carpet. Jane and I were doing an interview and I turn around and I go, oh my god. Jane, Julian Moore, and Tom Ford are right there because tom Ford's movie A Single Man was out that year, and she goes, let's go talk to them. I'm like I can't do this. I'm like, you can talk to them. I cannot. So we go and Julian Moore knows exactly who we are, and she turns to us and it's talking to Jane. She turns to me and she goes, we watch every single week, me and my kids, and we think you're all so good. Wow. I was peeing myself and that's when Tom Ford walked up to me and fixed my bow tie. I remembered her, and then I just start like babbling like whatever. That was also the same Golden Globes where Leah was nominated and she lost and Tom and Rita Wilson We're bad and said you were wrong. Oh my god, that's amazing. Yes, there was a lot. We met a lot of them on tour, and like Ryan said, like we spoke to like all these are artsy underdog kids, so like they relate to this type of show, right right. Yeah. What advice do you have for actors starting out? Jenna? Oh god, um, exactly. I use this one a lot, but I'll share it because I think it's I think I wish I had this advice. Do not try to copy the stars that you I wise, do not try to be a carbon copy. Do not try to sound like them. Do not try to copy them, because there's already one of them. You are one of a kind. The reason that you're going to be a star because you're unique, you're different and you got something to share, so be true to you. I know it sounds so cliche, but growing up, I just tried. I tried to sound like Sutton Foster. I tried to sound like these like Broadway stars that were famous and like Adina and Kristen and all of these people, and I just I was like, Oh no, that's not what's going to make me successful. What's gonna make me successful is me giving the world where I have to share, so that'd be one of them. That's right, that's right, Jenna Ray Kevin, What about you, Kevin? I would say, and the most unjaded way possible, that you need to be so certain and secure in your self and your want and desire to do this that when you go into a room where you're on a zoom or whatever the audition process may be, you can't control what the person you're artitioning for is feeling that day. That is all out of your control. All you can control is what you bring in. And I think the ability to not take it personally when you get rejected, when you don't get a job, is a really powerful and sustaining thing, because if you go in there and you're like, well, I wasn't the one on that day for that role. It's not because oh it's me. They hated me. I didn't do a good enough job. No, you don't know what the person on the other side of the table or the other side of the camera has been through that day. You don't know if they got in a fight with their partner. You don't know if their dog died. You don't know, if they got the best news about something else. You just don't know, and all those things play a factor in it, unfortunately, and you could look like someone's ex, you know. And it's really hard to not take rejection personally. But if you can learn to not take it personally, you'll be all right. Because this business is mostly rejection that you get to work. That's like, um, that's like one on one, like you really do have to find that in you to sustain. I think for everyone and that's okay, And that's I think, that's absolutely okay. You give it a go. And if it's not for you, you're not a failure. It's not for everyone. I'm just dead on the inside. So it's fine. And on that note, thanks for writing in you guys, great questions. It can't wait to do this again. These are really fun for us um I hope join them love this. Thanks for spending the time to write in with some of these really thoughtful questions and fun facts. And that's what you really ask That's it. We'll see you next time. Thanks for listening and follow us on Instagram at and that's what you really miss pod. Make sure to write us a review and leave us five stars. See you next time.

And that's what you really missed with Jenna and Kevin an iHeartRadio podcast. Welcome to you, and that's why you really missed ask me anything part I don't know, we've done asked me anythings with Ryan and what kind of and Jane and are So this is version one thousand. Yeah, that's just another one, another one. Okay, thank you for submitting all your questions. Again, we got thousands, so many questions. So many do you need to despite some people just write in people's names. It's like Cord Danna darn right. Okay, that's not a question. But yes, I agree. Um, let's let's let's just speed round, Jenna, let's get to as many of these as possible. Whoa, Okay, let's go. Yeah, let's give the people what they want. Jenna. Were you aware of all the Glee merch? We were not. I mean, there are some things that we saw and obviously on or we saw some things, but um, the amount of things that I'm learning about now that are out there, it's, um, it's mind blowing. So no, I was not. I was not. Um, Kevin, Yes, what song would Artie and Tina sing if there was a reboot? Oh oh um, oh man, what god, what do you think? Um? I don't hear what were we sign good together on? Well? What's in the top forty right now? I mean, oh, I don't know, Like I would love that would be funny. Yeah, I think you're right. I think you're probably right. That's yeah. You know, sometimes it's just you hear it and you're like, oh yeah, of course. Um did the cast ever break while filming where you had to stop so you could stop laughing? Absolutely, but not that often. The one that comes to mind for me is fix You. Yes see, this is why we tried not to happen have it happened, because we would get in trouble. We do get in trouble. We were filming Fix You, and that has to do this, like you know, he's the lead on vocal on it, and we're in the background doing the ooze, and we all decided to do basically what Leah's bad singing from Laryngite is, but all off key behind Matt as he's got a cry and we're all futzing around because like we don't have anything to do really, and we are singing really poorly. Everybody is laughing so hard. Our shoulders are shaking, probably probably see it. And because everyone else was actually keeping their faces and everything was fine, I was the one whose shoulders were like convulsive and I couldn't had nowhere else to go. I didn't know what to do. She's like Kevin, like she was right behind me. It's got so mad at us, and I was crying. I was. There were tears stream I mean tears streamed on your face. Doing is directed Kevin. Do you have any anger towards Ryan for how hard you worked? I can only speak for me. I don't. I think with the hindsight, I was always very of the mind, and I think maybe this is probably the wrong mentality, just because of how I grew up at a young age in the music business of just say yes and be grateful for the work, and if they're running you into the ground, it's fine. I was so happy to have a paycheck and be able to afford rent, and you know, all those sorts of things. I think we've had really good conversations with him now where he looks back in hindsight and realizes how it did not need to be the way that it was. But I don't know. I am empathetic towards you are a showrunner slash writer, and then all of a sudden you are put in charge of this billion dollar brand, and I don't think correct anyone is trained for that, and I don't think that's ever going to be perfect. Now does that mean? I don't know? I don't know. I feel like there's a gray area and thereof everybody could have been better, done better. But I don't have any sort of anger towards him for that. Well said, you know, did you do you have any anger towards him or do you just want to let me answer that? No, I you know, I didn't. I don't think I had anger towards him about that. I think the bigger thing for me was like when he kind of went away, right and he had to go do his other stuff, and it felt like the show kind of faltered because when he went in some ways, and now that we've had these you know, wonderful honest chats with him, and as you said, like he wasn't equipped or traded. There was no camp to go to how to show run, you know, and like manage a billion or multimillion dollar show. I definitely feel like I've found my um my closure and my like kind of therapy with him and being able to share our honest, you know, feelings of where we all were. So I mean, he's not lying when he says when he comes on here and says, this is like therapy working at all out in real time. Well, and also there's just no mental there was no talk of mental health in the workplace, like we keep saying that, Like had that been a thing, I think we all would have been able to have honest, open conversations where it didn't come from a place where you're like, I'm complaining, I'm not ungrateful, I'm feeling so because back then it felt like because we were in such a position of privilege in many ways that if we were complaining, we were assholes, you know, and like how dare you? So that was kind of the it's just a different time. Yeah. It's also something like we're a part of a union, like actors are in SAG after and it's like they're the amount of people who are actually working regularly within that union is very small, and so to get any opportunity to do work and have consistent work, you just feel like I have to just say yes to it because it is so rare that you get a job, and you get a job that you keep getting to do for six years. Yeah, yeah, exactly. There was another question sort of relevant to that, one of how how many days a week did we shooting? For? How many hours a day? Oh my gosh. Yeah, So I would say the earlier seasons, I think we're a bit crazier. As it went on, we sort of as there was New York in Ohio. You know, schedules were split, so it wasn't as bad. But the first couple of seasons we were working regularly I would say fifteen hours a day, fifteen, sometimes up to seventeen, but regularly I would say fifteen. Well, and additionally we were also shooting a long beach for all of our musical numbers, so it was like a forty hour minute drive for most people. That was the average each way, each way, and so it was just very it felt very aggressive, and we were just I remember so vividly, just constantly hitting my pillow at night and feeling like when I opened my eyes like no time had passed. Yeah, you just close your eyes open as you back to work, You're like where am I? And it was crazy and how it works with those things too. So you start on a Monday, you start early usually you know, five or six am, and then you have a certain number of hours you're allowed to work before the crew cast get overtime. And so what happens is the days start to get later as the week goes on, because you have to have a certain amount of time from when an actor is wrapped for the day. You're just to have twelve hours before they're allowed back onto set, and if you need to fudge that rule, you have to pay for it. There's a penalty for it, so they try not to do that. So therefore, by the end of the week on Friday, we could be starting up one pm. And what does that mean. That means we're going at least until one am Faturday. Faturday, and usually we go late later. And so while we technically didn't shoot on the weekends, we only shot five days a week, we still then had to be there at six am or earlier on Monday. So I'm like, if you're getting home at three or four am on a Friday night, your day Saturday is sort of like a half day because you're sleeping in to recover. I just remember having the luxury of being able to sleep in where most of our crew had family least, that's the time you spend with your family, so like you go home at three, you wake up at six seven to be with your family, and then you go back to work again on Monday at five or six. It's just it's a vicious the energy human industry is really hard fron especially on crews like that because they're the ones who are there all the time. And for us as a Glee cast, we kind of worked like the crew because we were all in every scene all the time or rehearsing or recording or having more job fittings. So yeah, that was it was a lot in the beginning. Did you use stand ins a lot? So the way it works, we're stand ins. There's always stand ins for the principal actors. So if Tina n Lardy are in a scene, say like um, I don't know the episode dream on, they're in a scene, your standing is always there working and a lot of the time the stand in will get the job and then keep the job for our show. And so it's a really solid, insistent work because you know, as long as the show is running and you're available, like you're working for as seeing Tina's stand in or already stand in and yeah, shout out to Kim and somehow you know, it varies sometimes, but yeah, the standings are always on set and then they kind of sit off in when we're working and shooting. And then when we're getting ready for a scene and they're lighting the scene, that's when the stand ins are there standing in our place. Literally, yes, there's a stand in. And then usually when we get to then because what happens if we rehearse the scene and then we go get ready, like Jenna said, and when the stands are there and they're lighting it, sometimes there are little changes to the blocking and so then we get to set after we're all prepared and dressed and makeup and all that, and then they fill us in sort of on what the changes may or may not be. And then each time there's a new camera setup, if the camera moves to a different part of the room, whatever, then again standings come back in and we leave so they can work. Do you have a favorite competition song? Oh, you know, I have a soft spot for Oh God, what is the one you and Darren did? What have um? Boston m a feeling a feeling, yeah, not what a feeling, um more than a feeling, more than a feeling. I think you guys smashed that and also like that whole number was very emotional for a number of reasons. Yes, yes, we have like the tribute to Finn in it, and that I was going to say that's my favorite was still having found what I'm looking for. And that's also when we found out Marco, my ex boyfriend, was coming back to America because he had been trapped out of the country and we were singing the song America. I literally got off the phone with his mom and she told me his like his green car was approved after he had been trapped out of the country for three and a half years. And it was so late at night, and we were so tired, and I had to get back on stage and I just shouted to everyone because everyone was in on it. They everyone knew the situation, and we were shooting America Wow, and the song I did not love. And then you better believe I was shouting that number out loud like I was going So that's and yeah, I think that was probably my favorite set of Yeah, that's funny. I love that one. Yeah, great. We had a lot of fun doing those with that new crew. Is there any chance that tell Him gets released? I picked that one, Kevin, because I know how much you love it and I thought that was really funny. Wait, can I do something I legal right now? Are you gonna play? Can I play it off of my phone? I don't know, but I feel like if you play just like three seconds, we won't get in trouble? Right? Which part should I play? I'm gonna play? Don't know, honestly, I'm getting so trouble, but you don't know what you're missing? What a number? I'm gonna sad like some sort of SoundCloud and just put it on there. Um and also love the way you lying, which I'm not gonna Oh my god, it's so good. Um. Do you have a playlist of your favorite lay songs? Okay? Um? I don't, But do you think we should make Let's make one? Okay, I inspired? How do we do that? How do we make a proper Glee playlist for everyone? We're gonna do that. And that's what you really missed favorites? Okay. I did go on like a Twitter listening spree a while back, like a late night and I'm through all the seasons of like my favorites and like live tweeted them. Oh and we're just like I sounded like shit on this one. Oh, listen, I sounded pretty good. We should do that, um, like a listening party. I actually recently started in the car. I get coffee in the mornings sometimes with Emma and I go and get like a coffee out in the world and I will. There's a Spotify is just ugly all the seasons like in a row, and so I scroll through those and I pick them. So we should do that, all right. What do your go to? Um? Well, Never Going Back Again is one? Really yeah? Um Dog Days is another. Um. I just listened to Bridge Over Trouble Water, um and some Madonna definitely like but and then um and what's the one we did? The friend one? Um never? Yeah? Yeah, I love how we sound on that one. I love Yeah, it's really good. It's a good one. Okay. What are your song of your gots? I do Breakaway a lot lately. That's that's like the past year or so. That's really been I love it. I don't know why I do. I do the hundred episode version of a Loser, like me, Wow, Kevin, Yeah, it's I mean, it's selfish, it's narcissistic. I just know I like the harmonies and the runs that Luke Edgemond had me doing, and it's some of those things. But you know, I'm just like I used to be able to sing right some of those. I was like, wow, I remember when I was like I got to go into a professional booth and like be produced like really well and like beautifully, And you're like, oh, that was cool. I'm gonna go listen some paces after this. Okay, which style of temas did you like best? Oh? My gosh, well, which one did I hate the most? There was a season I think it was before season thing. I think this season two. At the steampunk it's just a lot of lace and a lot of buttons, and I remember at some point being so miserable I wanted to cut myself out of this dress. And I think I looked at you maybe or somebody, and I said, something's gotta change. Something's gotta change. And I talked a little about it, and she was like I was just thinking the same thing, like maybe we can do black a little black dresses and like dress them up with accessories. So they're more comfortable. And I just thought, like, God, if we're going to be here for six more years or five more years, I can't keep doing this. This is so hard, and it's you're in it for so long during the days and you're under bright lights and the makeup it was just it was really bad. So Steve Punk was my least favorite. UM. I liked the mod Gina like when she had the color blocking dresses later later in time, I thought that was really fun, what a great evolution. You know. I was very lucky. I did get to kind of switch up my look um quite often, so that was fun. And I will say there was a question to say, why did Artie never dress better? His old man clothes were too unrealistic? How dare you? I think Artie brought back Normcore. He's a trend setter. U. If you look up the trends, there's a correlation. Lou did that? Oh my god, norm Core. I think also because you are, like what you just said, because you are in these outfits all day. Those outfits were so hot, so hot, and I wearing long sleeves and thick usually wolf sweaters under these very bright and hot lights all day. All day and so eventually they started cutting off my sleeves of the shirts underneath. So I would walk around as soon as we were done, I would take the sweater off in between takes and I would just have this like cut off of this button up shirt. It looked very weird. I think I told you about this in high school. I had to wear a white button down collared shirt in high school, as we're a uniform. Well, when you were in a show, which I was in most of the musicals, you got to wear your show shirt the weekend of the performances. So Thursday Friday at school, you got to wear the show shirt. Your name was on the back, they had the logo on the front. What we would do was, because you technically had to wear your white shirt underneath your show shirt, we would cut the collars and you'd have like a fake like a dickey, Yes, exactly, And I had one that I would put underneath my show shirts so I could just wear a T shirt school, Which is like, what a dream? So smart? What a dream? Okay? Um, if you could give Artie and Tina middle names, what would they be? Well, I would like to give Artie a middle name, and you can give Tina's middle name. Okay, I think your middle name is Archibald Arthur Archibald Abrams Damn. Okay um, I think your middle name is Carolina, Tina Carolina. Yeah, I think that's what you can get on bord with that, and she might go by Carolina she gets older. I don't know. TCCCA, that's what I'm hoping, because it was tcc Jacob Artist at some at some point started to call me to Sissa, Yeah, to Sissa because it was tccum. But I'll take I know, I miss him. He had the best nicknames. He always had so many nicknames for you. He did. He was the king of nicknames for everybody. Jacob Okay, what was it like filming the finale? Devastating? Yeah, it was rough. We cried a lot, a lot, a lot. I remember. It was very celebratory though, it was like they threw that party for us on New York Street. It was like there was a huge like basically amusement park festival. Like they had a band, the nineties band, they had like games and it was really fun. But it was also like so sad because like there was so much time that passed for me personally that I was like just rushing to the end. I was like, get me out of here. I can't wait till this is over, like towards the end, not in the beginning, or like you know, just not being present and then all of a sudden you're like, oh shit, this is going away and we just don't know. This is home for six years. So it's just really a very wild experience. And then just filming everything. And then when Ben are one of our favorites on the camera team, I mean, let's be real, they're all our favorites, but Ben, who would put down our marks every day. The last last day, he put down one of our marks in a scene and everybody just started clapping, like yeah, and this grown British man, this very grown British man, just burst into tears. Yeah, And I was like, oh yeah, we all lost it. But as soon as Ben lost it, we lost it because he is so sweet, quiet, and then it's like, oh no, he's breaking, We're done, goodbye. That was the funny thing, was like that those like that last week one person broke, we all, yeah, if if you keep it together and keep it together, but if one person goes, I think we all. It was bad. That last um song that Matt did, Yeah, brutal. Do you remember we were shooting that and then Cord, Oh god, oh god. He cried thinking about it. Cord all of a sudden, and coord's not afraid to cry it and so when he does, he just let it's heartbreaking and he just stares at you and it's like, oh god, I have that all on tape. It was really bad. We were all just like grabbing each other's hands because we were all sitting in a line too and looking at each other and just losing it. I think I watched it recently, recently recently, but I watched that, and I is in full to yourself. Yes, there's a video of us online when they're wrapping each of us, and you could see that was at the end. We had already been crying for hours. We had started drinking tequila at some point, like we what a day. Yeah, we had had it. On that note. Actually, there's another question somebody asked, did you ever consider quitting the show? So interesting? Um, well, we couldn't if we want to do right. So, um, you know, it's funny because like I'm I think I definitely threatened, like I'm I can't. I'm done, you know, like your just mental state is like I'm done, I've got to get out of here, cut me out. But the actual thought of doing it, I don't think I ever would have done. Yeah, I wouldn't have let you. It's like, you know you're gonna get it together, you're yeah. Um, I mean it was some people wanted to quit, Oh yeah, definitely, and some people did leave, but you know, it wasn't like we couldn't really go without permission. Yeah, I think there was. There were, yeah, a couple of times when like you and you understand, like people will become really famous, and there are opportunities because this is taking up ten months of the year where you can't go do some of these other things. And that's why you see it. It's so common for people to leave TV shows after a couple of seasons because like I needed to start taking these opportunities or they passed by. Look. Yeah, and so I think you know that's that was happening a bit. But yeah, we weren't allowed to leave. I never wanted to quit, but yeah, I know you didn't which season had the best music. Oh that's tough. I really don't know. I don't know that it was a season. I think it was episodes. I mean I think season two. I'm thinking abstractly. I don't really remember, but I would imagine because we haven't gotten it to gotten to it yet. But season two, when we were in the full swing of things, yeah, we broke some songs, you know, like where people hadn't really heard them for the first time, and we got the rights to a lot more songs, right, So it was like Katie Perry, there was Gaga, there was Bruno Mars, there was Robin Thick, Like I think, yeah, that's right. Yeah, two two probably was like we had the budget to get it, we had the prestige and like artists giving us songs and the permission. So yeah, that sounds right. Um, we had a few times for a few where did the nickname be come from? So for those of you who don't know, my nickname, sort of amongst all the Glee folk, right was b and that actually is It's one of those things that makes no sense. But I had I had a friend named Carly pre Glee, and um, she and I had this running joke where we'd make fun of couples who'd be like Beanie Beamie, I'm hot trying the sundown. Yeah, like that kind of thing. And then night and I started doing that on Glee. Would be you know, in between takes or something like maybe why aren't you Mabie, why aren't you hearing me? And then it just short shortened tip be B, and then it came I became B. But then we all sort of like me and whoever, like Leah and I would call each other be Diana and I, Nia and I, Corey and I. The craziest was when Corey did it, because you have this like really big, very straight guy'd be like hey, B. But you'd also be on set and you would be like quiet and like we'd be like lighting a senior waiting for a take to start, and then somebody would just like to raw like a beat in the middle of Yes. I was like, I was at a restaurant I remember a couple of years ago, and I hadn't seen Leah in a while, and I just hear BE and I turned around because that's how you call each other. It's a good way to just cut through the noise. What was your other nickname, Kevin? What was my other nickname? What did that call you, oh, Zach specifically Woodley, he would call me tater, top o, tater or talk. Yes. I love that one. Loved that one. Um, wait, can I ask you a really fun fact question? Somebody presented this and I did not know this, or maybe I had forgotten, But did you know that Diana Agron exists within the world of Glee because Kurt runs for class president and he gives out burlesque DVDs as part of his gifts and his incentives, and Dana was in burlesque. So Diana exists within Glee. That's meta, isn't that? That's meta? I love that. Something like do you know this? Like now the more you know? Top three Kevin Zong, Oh God, don't you never going back again? Py t Well, whatever I call your friend is one of my favorites. Yeah, do that all right? I'm going with that for now. Great, that's a solid three. That is pretty good three. But there's so many other ones. I mean, like Empire State of Mind. I don't know did you shoot scenes chronologically? No? We did not. No, it was timing money. They would try to like get if we were going breadsticks and there are two scenes you do the back to back like it was kind of it was just for efficiency and production? Um correct? Did your partners watch Glee before meeting you? Yes, David watched it, and then when we met on hand, she thought he was being catfished because he was like Tenick from Las Campy. Ye here, I am, um, what has been your favorite episode? I have you watched so far? Man? Was it SmackDown or throw down? I laughed a lot. That was really inappropriate that one. But I think power of Madonna. Maybe I was going to say Madonna is there and and Prager's is definitely one of them as well in my memory. Um, one or two more, Kevin, one or two more? All right? Oh? How did the cast celebrate birthdays on the show? Well, it was always fun um crafty or production would always get you cake if your birthday landed in the production scare. I never did so. I never got a cake. Oh did you get a particularly get a cake on tour or anything? We did do a birthday. We did your birthday, We saw you. We definitely saw my birthday. Kevin did your birthday? Oh? Yeah, but we know they bring you a cake. And I never got my own cake because Harry and I shared a birthday, so Karen, I would always get a shared cake. It's like having a sibling you or like your birthday landing on like a holiday. Um. Um, Jennet, you have two Tony's that you want for producing? Do you enjoy acting or producing theater more Current State twenty twenty three, March March of twenty twenty three parties producing. Yeah, but you're so good at both. Oh that's very kind, very kind. Um. Oh so um. Someone asked, did we have any famous fans of Glee that we are surprised watch the show? Yes, they're so. Our first Golden Globes was very enlightening experience because yeah, that's right. We were on the red carpet. Jane and I were doing an interview and I turn around and I go, oh my god. Jane, Julian Moore, and Tom Ford are right there because tom Ford's movie A Single Man was out that year, and she goes, let's go talk to them. I'm like I can't do this. I'm like, you can talk to them. I cannot. So we go and Julian Moore knows exactly who we are, and she turns to us and it's talking to Jane. She turns to me and she goes, we watch every single week, me and my kids, and we think you're all so good. Wow. I was peeing myself and that's when Tom Ford walked up to me and fixed my bow tie. I remembered her, and then I just start like babbling like whatever. That was also the same Golden Globes where Leah was nominated and she lost and Tom and Rita Wilson We're bad and said you were wrong. Oh my god, that's amazing. Yes, there was a lot. We met a lot of them on tour, and like Ryan said, like we spoke to like all these are artsy underdog kids, so like they relate to this type of show, right right. Yeah. What advice do you have for actors starting out? Jenna? Oh god, um, exactly. I use this one a lot, but I'll share it because I think it's I think I wish I had this advice. Do not try to copy the stars that you I wise, do not try to be a carbon copy. Do not try to sound like them. Do not try to copy them, because there's already one of them. You are one of a kind. The reason that you're going to be a star because you're unique, you're different and you got something to share, so be true to you. I know it sounds so cliche, but growing up, I just tried. I tried to sound like Sutton Foster. I tried to sound like these like Broadway stars that were famous and like Adina and Kristen and all of these people, and I just I was like, Oh no, that's not what's going to make me successful. What's gonna make me successful is me giving the world where I have to share, so that'd be one of them. That's right, that's right, Jenna Ray Kevin, What about you, Kevin? I would say, and the most unjaded way possible, that you need to be so certain and secure in your self and your want and desire to do this that when you go into a room where you're on a zoom or whatever the audition process may be, you can't control what the person you're artitioning for is feeling that day. That is all out of your control. All you can control is what you bring in. And I think the ability to not take it personally when you get rejected, when you don't get a job, is a really powerful and sustaining thing, because if you go in there and you're like, well, I wasn't the one on that day for that role. It's not because oh it's me. They hated me. I didn't do a good enough job. No, you don't know what the person on the other side of the table or the other side of the camera has been through that day. You don't know if they got in a fight with their partner. You don't know if their dog died. You don't know, if they got the best news about something else. You just don't know, and all those things play a factor in it, unfortunately, and you could look like someone's ex, you know. And it's really hard to not take rejection personally. But if you can learn to not take it personally, you'll be all right. Because this business is mostly rejection that you get to work. That's like, um, that's like one on one, like you really do have to find that in you to sustain. I think for everyone and that's okay, And that's I think, that's absolutely okay. You give it a go. And if it's not for you, you're not a failure. It's not for everyone. I'm just dead on the inside. So it's fine. And on that note, thanks for writing in you guys, great questions. It can't wait to do this again. These are really fun for us um I hope join them love this. Thanks for spending the time to write in with some of these really thoughtful questions and fun facts. And that's what you really ask That's it. We'll see you next time. Thanks for listening and follow us on Instagram at and that's what you really miss pod. Make sure to write us a review and leave us five stars. See you next time.