On episode 19 of All The Smoke, music legend Snoop Dogg joins the boys to talk about his favorite Lakers moments of all-time, Nipsey's legacy, and Ja Morant. He also reveals how he got his start in the music industry.
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Moe Monroe just wanted for the financial terrorist attack. Black Monday. Black Monday was my idea. It's me. It was all freed himself. Moe's back, baby. We're excited to bring you a special episode of our brother and one of the greatest rappers of all times, Snoop Dogg. But we're here to let you know that this interview happened before the tragic passing of Kobe and Gigi and the rest of the people on January, So obviously, if that would have happened, the conversation would have been a lot different and uh, you know, more Kobe and more heartfelt. But this is previous, so we know how important Snoop is to the city of l A and how much he and Kobe had a great relationship and they were brothers. So we just want to give you guys that information before you guys watched this episode, and um, we're excited about We're excited for you to see it. Snoop dog Game is a great show, a real lived depth interview, a lot of stories about death row, a lot of energy industry, a lot of weed, a lot of weirds, great stories from from the dog Father. You don't want to miss it. So make sure you tap into this episode and we're smoking. So are you all the smoke smokers? Tune in Funk with Us episode of Snoop Dogg Enjoy. All right, welcome back all the smoke. It's been a minute, bro, we're driving mother, Okay, I've been doing good. Man. We got a legend in the building today. Man, So when I grew up listening to idolizing two became a friend mentor. O g to me, um Man, we're gonna welcome Snoop Niggers. What's happening. Hey, we're gonna get all the smoke to day. He's extra comfortable as we like everybody, but we want to get right into it. Man, you came in you one of the you know ones that made it. You came from a street gang, bang in life too. I'm mogul, you know, worth a lot of ms. Like talk to me what that transition was like? Well, I was telling somebody the day in the meet and I was like, imagine all of the fortune five hundred drug dealers that got locked up before marijuana was legal. Imagine how fly they would be and I shop they would be. I'm just one of those guys that just happened to beat the system. And I take my hustle, I take my streets savvy, I take my experience around people the the way my mother raised me. My mother raised me to love people. Right. I was born in the seventies, so I was raised in the era where it wasn't about color. So I had friends that was white, Hispanic, Asian, everything, you get what I'm saying. So I was taught to love people. So when I was able to get into the music industry, I was writing music for people, I was meeting people, and I was becoming accustomed to learning what people love. And that's what made me likable, eventually made me lovable, and that's why I'm still here. And that's why my longevity is with within the rams of meat and the peace put it out, you know service. That's why I'm the people's champ. So they say, your mom, your mom was man man mom sung in the church, led the choir, did all that good stuff. And you know, my whole family was connected to music, but nobody actually made that breakthrough to actually like get a big deal and become a big story. There was like a lot of writers, a lot of behind the scenes, a lot of artists that was connected to my family. But I was like the first one to actually break the mold. But it's the years of them not making it, which was the spirit of me pushing through. Come on, man, you know you can't do it without the forefathers and the grandmothers and the people that did it before you. They gave the foundation just their prayers along. Man, that goes a long way to Jack. They don't understand when they say I'm praying for you, how serious that is, Like we really be needing that. Like I always say that everybody parents or everybody that that's has people in their life that's older that always say I'm praying Tell your friends Snoop Dogg, I'm praying for him. I appreciate that. And I tell people all the time, you wonder why people, especially our generation, be so hurt when our grandmothers died, because that's the only people we feel like that we know that was praying for us every day all the time. They told us that every day I'm praying for on my head about praying for me, and then when I come to see you. She had Jimmy swagger. She was dumping boatloads of money in Jimmy's pot. You understand, Jimmy Swagger got to raise three million dollars every day, baby, three million. Yes, sir, Hey, let's take a real small chronic break real quick. Man. We appreciate you because you didn't say that, right, Matt, you gotta say, can we have a moment of silence for this small crime? Bright legendary You can say that though exactly that that was your tone, but you know, because that's how we wanted to come into and it didn't initially work out. But you know when I said we you know, we got snoop online, but were don't have to be able to the blow one for the Poe one. So it took a little finessing, but you know, shout out Brian, Brian made that happen. Brian finally came through line, Brian came through. Appreciate But anyway back, you've been someone that's been able to I guess connect different rules almost uh, someone who's a bridge builder between the streets and business, through football and in the communities, uh music, Uh, and it goes on. And where did you learn how to bridge those gaps and and bring all these different people together? You know what n B I think it became something that grew on me. I think it was always in me. It just grew on me as far as like the like my arms and my legs, something that I moved with every day. It grew on me like that to where it was something I had to move with every day because I come from violence. I come from negativity and hate and the negasin bitch ass neggasine win supposed to be cool with them nea. I come from that energy. So me making it was if I make it, I won't the niggas that don't post to like me to like me. Let me write something that they're gonna like, let me do something that they're gonna like. I may offend my neighborhood more than offending your neighborhood because I'm stepping outside of the box and breaking a chain of negative energy, and I'm bringing people together who would have never came together. And it's by coincidence, by the glory of God, that Death Row Records was built off of bloods and crips because prior to that, there was no communication with bloods and crips, Like our communication was like, nigga, what's happening, what's up? Disrespect on every level. So when Death Row Records came about, it forced us to communicate and to collaborate and to be around each other and either nigga man up or or hole up or whole show up. Nigga ain't knowing between you have to get down or lay down because it was always somebody aggressive there. But it taught us how to be better people. And like, I like these niggas. Let me now, y'all, you like the same cereal. I like nigga, You like nigga, all this ship, I like you like like you know, just like you know what. It's the stereotype that we gotta break, And I was just willing to be the nigga that just was like fuck it. In the beginning on Death Row, Sugar used to get mad at me because I used to hang with his homies too much, meaning that not like like mad mad, but like nigga, you're going on in the hood with this nigga and buying dogs and doing all kinds of ship with this nigga. This niggas a killer, so you brought him around me, Like that's what I'm supposed to do. I ain't supposed to be a shell nigg im supposed to get out and move around, and I moved around and I became a piece for motherfucker because I've seen that we was all alike, and I've seen I had power, and I've seen when I walked in the room, people listen and people react different. So instead of me being the nigga that's like, get that nigga, Get that nigga, I was like, Hey, go get that nigga, Go get that nigga. Come here? What's that name? What y'all tripping off of? Man? Y'all both got love, man quick man, get this nigga. Hook, Get this nigga your number? Quit playing nigga. We are family. Use your shot calling in a positive way, right. Never seen me for always the other way. Haven't ran into any kind of trouble with that anyway, put back always because that's considered it as soft. Actually, me and Tupac our clash was that because remember when Tupac got out, he was on a different path. After when he got out, I was fighting a murder case. That's different than niggas hadening. That's totally different. But if you ain't going through it, it ain't and if you're young, it looked like stripes. It looked like nigger. That's what you're supposed to nigga. Come on, let's get back in this ship, because that's the kind of nigga. He was like, Nigga, I take my stripes and get back. And that's the kind of nigger I was until that happened, because a life was lost. It's different, you get what I'm saying. So I was emotionally attached to that, and I couldn't find myself being mad at niggas no more and having beef. And he wanted me to not like certain niggas in there, like fuck them niggas, and I was like, no, mm hmm. They didn't do nothing to me. That's all real man standing though. If you don't like if if you don't like somebody, I don't like them. But at the same time, if it's somebody I don't know and they got beef, I'm not gonna jump on the side because I know one of them is different. Us three you pocket you, biggie, I'm snooped. We're all friends. At the same time. We didn't hung out at the same time, we didn't smoke weed, chopping up about bitches and all kind of ship ninety three ninety four. Then could go to jail cause get out, cause get shot. Now he tripping on Cuz. But I go and see Cus and they don't do nothing to me, and everything is cool with me, and I'm leveling it out, like I don't think Cuz did that to you. Then I say, hey, sure, put Cuz with us, get him with us. Now he with us? Now he really wants me to ride on him when I could beat the hold on. Let me show you that he didn't do it, but niggas didn't want to hear that funk that he did it and shoot pushing right with h Yeah he didn't suck him. Niggas when it's like no, no, no, I can get us all on the room when we can get some understanding, because I think we'd be better making money together. He's niggas is rapping just like us. They're taking the same stop. They really our little homies, stop pressing and learn how to be partners. Could be beneficial. Can you imagine big pocket Snoop all over something and they wanted that. Y'all wanted it too. I wanted it pocket Sho at one point, Park wanted it because he would him and Biggie was the tightest friends before he got on Death Fro. Before he got on Death Fro, was that almost the would you say, almost the battery in his back. He was just out nigga. It's some footage of Tupots bringing Biggie two l a party. Nigga. We was all rapping on the mic. Warren G was on first, Biggie me DC was there. It was an event that Tupac brought that nigga too, and we didn't know cause at the time we were looking at this big old fat nigga rapping like this nigga hard is a mother because he was whopp. It was cool. It was love shout out DC. I'm from Texas, so you don't have no nigga. That's my mentor nigga. That's my sense sake nigga, that's the god. I'm his voice. Know that. So you're breaking too the game? Really? Uh you know? It was when you pulled up on the chronic and really changed the world. How did you andre make that connection? DJ warren g Um. Warren G was a Snoop dog fanatic, like he loved Snoop Dogg more than Snoop Dogg. He believed in me more than anybody. So whenever I would make cassettes and ship like that, he would always try to get my cassettes in the right hands of people. And he just was like just the worst nigger but the best name. I ain't related to him at all with him and Dray and Drake was a step brother. So he pressing the line, pressing the line so he could always go to inn w A functions. They had a bachelor party one night. So Warren goes to the bachelor party with our cassette. Music stopped. He throw the cassette in the cassette banging. Everybody at the party like who is that? He like, that's my own boy snow. So the next day Dr Dre calling like they I like what was on the tape? Come to the studio. So I come to the studio and record a song. I bring Nick dog when we record a song called Gangster's Life. That's the first thing we did. And he was like he's starting the label and this and that, and we just started buying and I started coming to the studio every day, no money, just every day writing, writing, writing, until we finally just like we called a motherfucking hit. He had moved me into his house and the deep cover soundtracker came about, and he was like, I need a song for the soundtrack. I'm gonna go to the gym when I get back, I need a song to be done. I'm like, well, what's the movie about. What's the soundtrack about? It? Like ship up? He called the company. It's about an undercover cop selling somebody selling dope to an undercover cop. And I'm like, damn, I got caught for selling dope to undercover cops. That's why I went to jail. So I'm like, all right, cool, I got it. I'm like, how you wanted to start off? He like, I want my first lines to be Tonice. Tonight, I get in some ship deep cover on the incognito tip. That's how you want to start off? All right? Cool? Too nice? Tonight I get in some ship deep cover on the incognito tip, killing motherfucker's If I have to pilling cap tools, let you niggas know I'm coming at you. I guess it's part of the game. But I feel for the nigger who think he's just gonna come and change things with the swiftness. So get it right with the quickness and let me handle my business, y'all classes. So that's the first song, y'all together. That's the first song that we put out. We recorded G Thing before that. Yeah, but I had a motherfucking toothache, and I went and got some peels from my auntie and violated my probation and had to go to jail for like four months. So that prolonged that ship. Yeah, so, y'all thing, then you got locked up. We recorded G Thing first and I got locked up. Then I got out, and then we did deep Cover, and deep Cover came out first, and then we re recorded G Thing once my ship had got healed, because my voice was like sucked up. But once my ship and got here and my ship was crisp as a mother, I heard that ship and in my airphone, I'm like this nigga, Dr Dre's the ship cut. My ship sounded cleanland one, two, three into the folk. That ship was like crystal clear. Because remember I was rapping on bullshit ass equipment before I meet this nigger. So imagine that they're going to walk man, then all of a sudden they get some beat by you know what I'm saying. Here your voice like that, It's like, oh man, that ship is mind blowing. Then at the same time, it's like d O C is right here and the nigga the the rap was so dope. That nigger only helped me with four lines. And normally when I was righting, like before that, he would be helping me with everything, he'd be like, no, you got the modest, modest around over there. You gotta put that first. Man, that gotta go right there, Doggie dog, you gotta you gotta cut this ship out right here. Ain't nobody gonna say that ship and it's right here. And when they put that right there, doggie dog, when I did g thing that nigga just said one line, he was like we had got to the end and nigger got stuck. He was like like this that in this center. It's like that and that's okay, cool, That's all I need because he gave me that one motherfucking line and that ship ended. That ship doesn't like my nigga dgo seat. No one could do with better. And I was stuck. He was like like this that in this center because it was about the way the cadence, because we was already saying like this and like that, but was saying like this that and this cat, and they had cats. That's that Texas ship, y'all Texas niggas moved to a different drum. Yeah, well you better know it. That drum is all that's motherfucker's on time though, So that puts you on the map, obviously. Is it like going from being a hood superstar too a real up and coming star. How do you handle that? Wow? Um? The first phases the the show The Box. I don't know if you'll remember that show where you could order videos all day. Yeah, you could order and then take you the next one that's coming, So jukebox and then they called it the Box. Remember, So, I didn't have no where to stay at the time g thing was popping, So I spend a night in my cousin. How she lived in Perkorima and Perkoma is all blood. So she lived an apartment to and so ghetto at like the apartment builders on Baby Boy that event, living living the same kind of ship nigging upstairs. So I'm upstairs sleeping ship. I wake up in the morning. In the video, just coming on back to back to back. That my fucking thing came on like twelve times in a row, like nothing else but that just because who were ordered just come yeah, No motherfucker just came on. I'm like, damn, this is my fucking poppet. I hear a bunch of niggas downstairs. I'm like, damn, I ain't got no gun. I'm like my cousin, she a female, but one of the niggas as the leader is her baby daddy. Come on, my Nigga's got to be a reason. So the baby daddy come up in that motherfuck he liked. He looked at me. He won a trip, but he can't because the music is banging so hard. He like, hey, blood that that music you got with Dr DR That ship hard. I'm like, good looking Caul. And then it was like a weird because remember I'm telling you this is one bloods and cryptic. It wasn't like so when he's saying, and I'm saying, this is still meat, like nigga still like because now I would be like, hey, homie, a dog, it wouldn't be no a blood a cousin, But back then that's what it was. So it was like an evil look off. And then he looked at me, and he was like me and my homeboys, we funk with you good while you over here. And I was like, all right. That's when I knew that my music had prevailed to the point to where I'm in the neighborhood when niggas could have my head. But the music means more, and they want to keep me around because they want to hear what else I can do. That's heavy that language though, But to even be in their hood showed a lot like what the nick even doing upter? That's this, that's this relative blood. That's all I'll keep you. That's this relative. It's my cousin. She didn't tell me she lived in a blood neighborhood. It's something in the morning, I gotta figure out I'm getting the funk out of here. Then I gotta walk downstairs and I got on all blue. I can't even change there ain't nothing to change into. Fuck it. What's happenings that? So we finally get to and where you drop your own album? Right, take me to that and just where you were? How old were you at that point? Twenty yep? Just now. My record came out in November. I had just turned two. Yeah, what the chronic album was like that ship didn't feel like my record, but everybody was trying to make it like this show album. Like me, I don't think like that. This Dr Dre ship like I'm just happy to be a part of. But when I got done with my record, it was a different kind of feeling because it was like with Dre record, every nigger in America was bumping it. Well my record, White People was playing and that was crazy because it was like I always made music for everybody, but just to see the kids coming up to me like loving me, like it wasn't no fake ship. It wasn't no like we just like him. They're like, we love you, and our parents don't even want us to listen to your fucking music, and we're fucking listening to it, and they come to concerts and they're rocking out and die hards. And he gave me a different perspective on who I was and what I was supposed to be doing. You know, I'm in the beginning. You know you're gonna be making making records for my niggers. I'm making records for the hood. But now I was like, hold on, I'm bigger than that. I got to make records for people and for the whole world. This so I was raised anyway, going back to my mom, going back to that circle. You know, your upbringing is what you're gonna become when you become a grown man. You know, shout out to all of the great mothers that raised great men that don't get credit, you know what I'm saying, because a lot of these great men had great women in their lives that shaped and molded them and gave us some concrete to stand. Though. This is crazy, it's facts though. Right when I say master p, what does that mean to you? Harriet Tubman mhm, underground railroad. Um, this nigga was the boy man you know I'm from. That's five hours he man and was giving him life. Right, that's a great way to put it too. He gave us life, man, and he put us all together. He freed us all and put us together because he knew our energy would match and we all was there for each other. It was like an all star team he built. And when he brought me up, I feel like I was like the first, you know, free agency in hip hop to actually execute the championship. A lot of niggas, you know what I'm saying, I'm being honest. I have to say it because ain't nobody gonna say it me. Nigger. I went from winning championship for death Row to no limit as the team that was winning at all, they was the motherfucking Warriors, Nigga, they was doing it, and I jumped right in and plug right on, right on. I plug right in, get my three in, did my three years. And they guess what I did when I finished with those three East Siders doggie style records in the chronic two thousand one. Back to another championship with my righteous owner, with the nigger that yestead I played with the best. But he got a new team. Now he got Eminem he got fifty cent, he got all these pieces. But remember I'm n G. So what do I do? I groom them. That's why they respect they g now when they all big dogs. Now Eminem's are goon in the game, fifty cent tycoon in the game, and they respect Snoop Dogg the same way they did when they first came in. No matter how big they get from the get go, I wasn't too big to say hello. A lot of niggas get too big to say hello. You know when you're so big and with that nigga, Now you better because he may take your spot one day. He may be the one, not the two. He's fifty as an executive. Now Nigga's on ABC, Hello, America's broadcast channel ABC. Let's transfer move over to your film career. You got a lot of movies. You play yourself a lot, but you in a lot of movies starts getting hut, which is one of my favorite movies. I'll laugh at that. You know that that nigga really hit me in real life and starts hut. I'm gonna take you to the scene. It was the golf course scene, me and Vince Vaughan. So when we were rehearsing, we rehearsing in the scene, it says, well, Vince is gonna say in line and then Snoop's character, Huckey Bear is going to interrupt him, and Vince is gonna say, hey, don't you interrupt me? So okay, me and the director, Tod Felters, we get to understand it. So it's time to shoot. So now we're on set. So Nigga like man and they saying his lines. I'm already and doing my ship and they can say something like, hey, man, that nigga said, he slapped the dog shit out of me. Nigg on my mama, he slapped the dog sh out of me. So that the nigga and me was from the punch him right. But the actor in me, I sold it, you sold it was like, and I shrug it off and I went to my next line and I did that ship and I killed your nigga, and they was like cutting. Everybody started clapping and the nigga, Vince Vaughan hugged me, tied his mother fuck said, man, don't don't kill me. Man. I just felt the urge. Man, just feel like I said, you told the urge you dog here, motherfucker. You slapped the ship out of mecause that's what happens when you're on the set of a movie and you're working with real actors. Ship like that just happened. I said, I don't want to be no more real actors. Put me with some niggas. Man coming hard of some the body. But what's it like to like, I said, So you're transitioning from the streets to a global superstar and then now you're sucking round. Now you in movies like, tell me what's what's going through your mind during this time? Matt, you know what's crazy because I always from church, my aunt das Mama, my Auntie Elane, and church. She used to always put us in place. She used to always put us in theatrical ship where we have to either play characters or memorize lines or be somebody famous for Black history. Benjamin Bannaker uh uh, James Washington Carver, all kind of motherfuckers that we had, Frederick Ducks. We had to do research on these people that we have to become them, and we have to act like them. We have to present that. Then when I went to school, I did like certain things in school that certain classes that I took that would give me the opportunity to to give a little bit of that. Then when I became a rapper, rappers had personality. When I came out, all of them, it was never a dead dull rapper. Niggas couldn't just be yeah, hey, we ain't yeah yeah. Niggas had personality. Look that style, they had all that ship that was like flatboyant, like you know what I'm saying, Like that ship. So it's like when I got a chance to act. I was like, I never went to act in school, but I'm not gonna blow the opportunity and my reputation is. And you can ask anybody that's ever worked with me on the movie set is Snoop Dogg comes to the set and he knows your lines, your lines, your lines and his lines, and the motherfucker is flawless. I just did a movie with Eddie Murphy, nigger, and I ain't bragging. I'm just giving you some facts. When we first hit the set, it's the first day. Nigga say action. True. Nigga said, hold on, let me one more time, action one more time. Damn Snoop Dogg got a nigga rattle. Damn nigga, Boss, I'm supposed to be rattled by you. You understand me. Boom knocking out the part, Boo wo whoop. Come back to the thing like, Nigga, you're a professional nigga the way you and to me, I ain't did nothing but just what I'm supposed to do. But to an onlooker, and the motherfucker has been doing this ship for a long time. The way I do it with is and the way I get it done, it's like nigga, this is what you meant to do. Like certain niggas on the b ball court, they just gifted. Like some thing has gotta practice and ship and all the left and weights and all this extra ship. That something is just like right there, that's the dunk on the nigga. Something has just gotta do mode than others, you know what I'm saying. And then something has just naturally got it, man Like, it's just like that. Like I look at y'all the niggas that made to the NBA, right, how many motherfuckers didn't make it? That was better than y'all. Know. A lot of my is maiden, most of them in jail. They were way colder than me. That's what I'm saying. It's just a matter of the way you did it at ease I had, but you did it at ease too. The favor gonna give it to you. But you still gotta do what at ease because if you do it reckless and you're gonna lose favor. Yeah, almost poked it off a couple of times. We almost right here and perfect combination. What was the best acting experience swords people you got to work with you felt, was it you just spoken. What was that probably coming to America to you telling about no dollar? Miite? Okay, okay. But the people that I had the great experience of working with. One of them was Fred Williamson. That's the hammer played the Super Bowl one, played a super Bowl one. He was a star, he was a lieutenant. But he told me because I had a long conversation with him, and um, I was like, Fred, I really want to start doing this acting thing. Heavy. What should I you know, do wishould request or whatnot? Because I just want to be good at what I do. He said, look here, young man, let me tell you something. When I started making movies, it was three things that had to happen. Well, I wouldn't funk with the movie. I got to win all my fights. Got to win all my fights, that's number one. Got the funk all the pretty girls I'm gonna get that's number two. And I got to live all three of them. Things got to happen in the movie for me to be in them. And I looked at every movie this nigga was in and it's the same, and they get beating up niggas from the beginning, sucking a bad bit in the middle, and that nigga lives at the end and in that time. But just listen to them in that time and in real life nigga would get beat up. We're gonna take your bit, and you're dead by the end of the movie. These are three things that's happening to you. Black actors, get that part in your head. So somebody had to create a stigma of hold on, we wanna see some superheroes that look like us. That's where the super Fly in the Shafts and the Black Dynamites and the Dollar Mites, that's where they come from. Because it had to be somebody that set the trend on You're not gonna do me like that. I'm not gonna be in it. So that's why when I got to a certain point of doing movies, I pulled back from Hollywood because they always wanted to kill a nigga. They wanted me to die in the movie the last movie I died in. Me and John Singleton had to understand it. It was like, look, I really don't want to die in no more movies because because I just don't like the spirit of that ship. I like to live. He was like nigga the way you're gonna die in this movie, Nigga, You're gonna live forever? And what was I to do? Nigga Rottney from Baby. Like a lot of your movies, like you got thirteen appearances where you play your self, the cameos is harder because what you don't want to do is you don't want to do the same ship twice. Like I could play me, but I could. I got different versions of me. So you've seen me and Reincordnated, which is the reggae version of me. Then you see me in the Bible of Love, which is the Gospel me. You see me and Coach Snoop, which is the coach version of me. You see me and some gangster ship shooting the nigger. You see me and some pimp ship. So it's like, it's different versions of me that I can give you, but I gotta know when, nah, I can't do that. That ain't cool, nah, because it was one movie that I just got that they wrote it for me to play Snoop Dogg, but I changed it up and made my name Lingerie because he was more profound for what I was doing. You did and it pay it all all? That't the writer credit. You gotta know what the mix and master ship, what you touched on. Its crazy, though, because there are so many different versions of you, and you get paid for every different version of who you are. You touched the gospel realm, you've touched the reggae realm. You've touched the gangster wrap realm. You've touched the family comedy like you've done all that. You showed the eight or nine different sides, but all them people always have a lot of different size, but they don't get paid for every motherfucker's side they got. You get paid for every side you got. You also want the MVP of the Hey, Jack, I do this basketball show. I gotta give your proberts. Don't don't talk about that. You probably was one of the oldest that all them young entertainment. You got it dubbed up on them and you got the win. Yeah, but you know what it is. They scared me on that ESPN Celebrity Basketball Ship. They'd be always having them whenies out there and all we don't really wants and motherfucker's that don't get down nigga and they have one nigga that's good going out there putting up twenty five. I'm like they put some real nick us out there. Man Quabo had a good game in his spot. That motherfucked our legend. Shout out about the ship Nigga, that young niggas ship. Hear me, like, I give props to niggas that deserve that young nigga is ship man. He put together some fly ship with Nigga was out there competing and getting it in. I'm talking about like, come on, man, but Snoop came in. It came to the game hotp what I played in some of these put it up and left, came killed for like ten minutes, yeah, then left. That was it. Next thing you know, people like where Snoop bad? My chucks? It ran out of game on the flat now. But he came in instantly. You must have stretched in the sprinter. Come on, man, we were came in. We we we keep you loose, man, We keep really stretch it really do clastic. Tell me what it's like working with Martha Stewart. Oh man, Martha Stewart. She's like your coolest aunty man, right, you know, like when your mom drop you off and be like I'm taking you down aunty house to stay over there for a couple of days, You're like, oh, thanks, Mom, it's the coolest motherfucking aunty. She's gonna let this just come over and she's gonna cook for nig and she's gonna, man, you know what I'm saying, Like just cool fool cool like. But at the same time, she's real educational. So if I'm doing something wrong, but if I'm out of adequate, she always gets me back in order and puts me back in place. And but if I'm doing something right, she's quick to compliment me and give me all of the love that I need. So her spirit is genuine, is beautiful and just. You would have never thought, But if you really know good people, you would always thought that we deserve each other just like any other. Two people that you may not know. Put them in the room together, let them talk and see what happens. Pretty sure they love the same things, and they probably the best of friends if you let them communicate. Shout out mother, stood man, she went and did a time like a real one. Yeah, she said, six nines a bit. Yeah, shout out Martha. Because he told and she don't know nothing. Martha said, take these two and put him behind my back. Pull up, Martha. You welcome on all the smoke any time, any time. Bring some some some of that infused. Yeah. What's the challenges? The challenges from transition the gangster wrapped to being like a global star like me personally, like being a basketball player like a lot of people, and he don't even know how to ship. I've been through, you know what I mean. As far as I'm perfect example, I'm probably the only basketball playing in history that went got nine hard at this part in the house while the house getting reidy, see what I'm saying. So I know you've seen, you've seen, We've seen different ships, and a lot of people don't see you know what I'm saying. So being growing up in that then becoming this global star going around the world doing how did that transition? Like? Was it hard? It was real hard because it's not you all the time. It's the company you keep. And a lot of times when we make it, we like to break. Everybody would us, and this ship ain't for everybody, and we gotta learn the hard way. Sometimes, you know, we get lawsuits, we get certain things that happened based off of the company that we keep. So we gotta learn how to separate and elevate at the same time. Some of the people that you brain definitely deserve to be there and gonna roll with you, But it's got to be about you first. You gotta get your game together, and then once you get your life right and get situated and organized, then you can start plugging and playing everybody else that's important in your life. And that usually is the wrong thing that we do. We try to plug everybody else up before we get our own feet planet and end up losing it all because somebody did somewhere. You gotta end up paying laws. So you gotta do this. You gotta help this and help that one. You didn't have nothing to do with nothing. Yeah, you know, I learned everybody ad meant to benefit off your blessing. You know what I'm saying. We we we got we grow with We grow up with big hearts, and we grow up with big families, and we talked to love and try to take care of everybody. But on the way to success, you found out the hard way that that ain't the way to do it. You want to pull everybody else, but everybody ain't meant to benefit out your blessing. And we learned at the hardway. Well, I like to use Lebron James is a great example of how he put niggas to work. He gave a spot, but he gave him you have to work. We didn't do that. We gave my home was a sack and the job, and we gave him the money. We gave him the bag money and we ain't gotta do nothing or you security. We ain't securing ship, running niggas off, running my fans off, Like come on, man, like we gotta be better than that. Like Lebron did a good thing. He talked how to like self empower like they don't even need him no more, Like that's how I supposed to be the right way, Like how do you not need me? M Because I wouldn't put my foot down off of what you gave me. But that's why he got he so respected by athletes, basket you know, rappers, everybody, because he did it the right way. So many of us, me personally, I brought a whole bunch of homeboards and me when I came into the league and was thinking that same idea Lebron was thinking. But we didn't have the game plan, we didn't have the blueprint, you know what I'm saying, We didn't. We didn't have the smarts. And to be honest, we didn't have the intelligence. You know what I'm saying. We were two in the street. You know what I'm saying. We we we we We still had that nigga that that nigga mentality, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, So, so to see him do it, that's why I give him so many props because I know so many people came along and couldn't get it done. That's you gotta give him because he's the blueprint. I mean, that's the way you want to do it. Like as an old dog, I could look at his blueprint and say, I'm gonna take a couple of pages out of your book came do you mind? You understand what I'm saying Like that, And that's how I'm supposed to be. Why you can always teach your old dog a new trick if he's willing to listen. Wow, So creating basically a whole genre of music in the nineties to what music is today. I heard you speak on another podcast, Shout Out Arian Foster Shout Out Arian Dope Dope interview. You talked about one of the your the commissioner of this thing. Where do you feel the state of music was from the rules and the way the game used to be to what is that now? I think it's just less structure because it's so easy access, meaning that anybody can get in. Like it used to be at time to be a musician you had to have everything look um, communication, skills, dance, um talent, talent I mean I mean not to mention, I mean, you know what I'm saying. When it was things that that that were a part of your criteria that had to come with the package in order if you'd even get listened to by anybody that was serious. And then it became uh point where you could do it yourself. But then you start watering it down when you've got so many people doing it themselves and who have never been trained and don't know that the understanding of the dynamics of what music is so now that anybody and everybody can do it. There are no rules of regulations. That's why mother's come in the game and be hot and then turned snitch and still be liked. What the fuck like? What the funk kind of ship is a rat? Don't y'all watch movies cheese like rats. Man, Please, I despise. I need some D con Remember Mohammed Ali had the d coon trap a motherfucking rat. It's a new time, man, It's insane. But then if you speak on of you a hater, right because you don't understand his fan base. What do you got a bunch of rats niggas? What's happening? What goes with this ship here? Man? I mean, I'm not even gonna try to understand it. I'm just gonna stick to the rules and regulations that apply to me and my g code and just continue to do what I'm doing. And you know, I know that it will stand the test of time because I stood the test of time. And that's why I've been able to because I I go by the golden rule. I do me. I mean to me. Rap music is so influential that what you guys are rapping about back in the day people were doing. Now what they're rapping about is these pills and these heavy drugs getting kids addicted. And then people are dropping off artists and their fans, Like, what is your thought about the way the drug game is glorified in current music? Well, remember when I got in crack. Cocaine was out of high So what my mission was was to make this the forefront and the kill crack, because I sold crack and I've seen the effects of what it did and how it really It sucked a lot of my homies up, homies and bitches and everybody just sucked him all the way up. So I was like, let's push this and put this in the universe and making a better world. And it did. Like everybody was on weed, like it's legalized now, you're welcome from the chronic to hear. So our energy was get them off of that, get them on this, and get everybody communicating, because one thing about this it brings all of us together. Look at all the people in this room right now on a fucking weed show. Everybody feeling good too, but everybody loving their job though, like it's sat one of the test jobs where you're like, I gotta go fucking work with Stephen Jackson, fucking Matt Barnes, those fuckers gotta fucking take ship from those Fox all day fuck and nobody's saying that ship. Nigga's like, well, y'all going ship, We're going to work with madd and Jack nigger ain't really be doing ship with just you know whatever the fun stand right here and hold his camera for about minutes and and heal all this good content. Yeah zo being and out every once in a while, and then ship and I guess I'm done. I already know what it is, man, this is the best life. Tell me what Sugar, the good and bad uh did on the influence of your life, the sugar Knight, I'll speak on the good because everybody know the bad. The good is that he talked ownership, he talked strength, he talked unity, he talked um being a fucking man, Like, that's key, being a fucking man. How about that? Like, and that goes a long way, because there's a lot of motherfucker's that's not teaching you to be a man, and I'll just leave that there. But teaching you how to be a man in this industry when his industry don't give a funk about nobody. This industry treat everybody the same either you're pamper, your whole and now in between. So for him to teach us how to be men helped us break the stigma if you're gonna be a pimp or whole You're gonna be a man first, So you're not gonna give me the bullshit as deals. You're not gonna talk to me anyway, You're not gonna do me any kind of way. I'm a musician first. This is my art. This is what I love to do, just like the for the foundation before us, to Sam Cooks, the James Brown's, the people that fought for this ship, that own their own ship, you know what I'm saying. Like he was one of them, motherfucker's to teach us how to keep the foundation going. Nowhere you could have strong record label owners like MASTERP, Cash Money and any other label that came behind that was able to that was able to just do that ship. The rapper I was here before us, So j Prince was like, you know, he was in the game, him and Uncle. Look, the Niggas was there before us, but anybody after us. Sure, Knight basically gave the niggas foundation on how to be how to be men in this industry. Y'all made great music together. But I mean what you in pox relationship was like because as you touched on earlier, you guys are kind of on two different paths. When you guys really really started rocking. Nah. See, when we really started rocking was before death Row. That's how he got to death Row. We really started rocking when um and Michael Rappaport was there, when I fucking Mattie at the Poetic Justice Rappart. Yeah, Ricky Harris was the fucking like MC or the the host at night and I grew up with Ricky Harris. That's my cousin. Yeah, when I get to the party, Ricky Harris is dead. John Sam went to Janet Jackson all the Stars and ship is there and they got like a DJ booth and they got like a microphone. So Ricky Harris grabbed the mike and he know I get out, so he liked, yeah, I got more. My cousin, sloop rock in the house and who whoa whoa and then pockets right here. So and then when Ricky finishing what he's saying, Tiga pot grabbed the mike and started rapping. I'm like nigga out with my intro. So when he but it say it's a little blind, I grabbed a mic and I started rapping. Then he grabbed a mic and store, this is one mic, nigga. This is when they only had one mic, so they had to wait patiently and kindly and didn't grab it with aggression. After Nigga finished, Nigga said, so, then then we're rapping and rapping, so we both go about like four five times. Then we stopped and then my nigga lay Law from above. The Law was there and he walked us outside and he was like, Snoop, did you meet my nigga. I'm like, nah, what's up? Shooking nigger hand and they could roll the blunt. I'm like, Nigga, what's that. Ain't like Nigga's a blunt. And Nigga rolled the blunt lick that motherfucking lit it smoke that motherfucker. I'm like, let me get your number. Come, I let you got his number. Maybe like a month later, I finally called him and I'm like, what's happening, what's up with you? Like, I'm at the house some frying some shrimp. They could come by. He was in the scene though, and they got a house full of Niggas he was frying shrimp, they got flowering ship in his hands. It's the first time I gonna funk with him and the nigga like you ever see my movie. I'm like, no, theyre using the movie. He's like, yeah, they got got a movie called Juice, Nigga. I'm like, let me see it because and they gave me a big ass laser disc. That's when laser dis is out. And this motherfucker was about this big nigga was squared. He gave me that motherfucker I ticket to the house and and DC had a laser this player too. Put that motherfuck in. They could watch Juice and fell in love with that nigger. I was like, cud this nigga hall, Me and all the homie start listened to this nigga music, getting all this ship. Me and them started hanging out, started fucking. Wouldn't even fucking with him. And I did my record that I did, the Murder was the Case soundtrack, and I wanted this song he had called how many do you see life so hard on the nigga when you're living like a g I wanted that song bad, and he was like, Nigga, I paid him thirty five thousand. I man suld get him thirty five thousand. Sugar was like, Nigga, who is this nigga? We're give him thirty five thousand dollars to this motherfucker. Ain't ship, I said, man paid the nigga. Man this nigga the ship. The song is bombed, So sug pay him. Nigga. We didn't even use the song, my mom. We didn't use the song because he rapped on the song. But I wanted to rap on the song, and I was like, I was debating when I wanted to use him, and and it got too late and we didn't use it. But long story short, when he got back out and got on death Row, I had already paid for so I used the song and I did the lyrics over on the the movie that he was on before he died, the oneing that are a lot. What was the name of that movie, Yeah, yeah, Gridline. It was on that motherfucker's Gridlock, and we used it for that. But I had paid the nigger like oh years before that. And this is when Sugar wasn't sucking with him. Sugars like, don't get that nigga all that money my cause he's worth it. Cause so he was my friend before death row, right, so building a brotherhood with him. So when he was locked up, naturally, I spoke to Sugar and was like, we need to get Cuss out and put him with us because he will make us better and he's gonna push me and he's just the ship just because we need his spirit here. So that was the first successful free agency acquisition that I acquired with Sugar Knight as like a general manager to bring Cuds to the squad and then put him on the team and say Dash stop, dog father, get that nigga everything, And that was the best thing to Happitune was dash right. People don't know that give him everything. Gave everything. The Dads was hungry right at that time though, because Dre was like the man and Dads wanted. Dads has got that complex about it where he don't like being too. He want to be the one, so he couldn't come after me because I'm his cousin, so naturally he want to come at the production. So he producing horror and trying to make ship. That's like on the level of Dr Draft, not better than Dr Drell, trying to get to that level. You know, that's that drive, that's that competitive spirit of having great niggers on your team. It pushes you to be great. You got a bunch of sorry motherfucker's on your team, you're gonna be sorry. That's why the teams that can't win. It's a look at the bench. I'm sorry, motherfucker's over there. But then look in the office too, right, Nipsey hustle his legs. And what does his legacy mean to you? Nipsey leaves the legacy of gangsterism, uh, business education mentorship in future? Um just because he touched on everything and I spoke oh and he knew it, like we didn't know it what nobody really knowing? How deep? Cause was while he was here, we was rolling wood, he so we was enjoying the experience. So when you fully get to enjoy the experience, then you understand because all while we was listening, we was making our own music and we was doing other ships, so we couldn't listen like we listened to it when he passed away, we listened to it with a understanding because we ain't gonna hear him again. So now you understand it. He knew what he was saying because he could have said anything. Why would he say that? Why would he write that? He knew? Like we all know when I write what I right, I wrote murder was the case before it happened. I didn't wan't no murder case to happen. Yeah, but I knew that death was around me. So I had to write it to where I could survive. It's the only way I could write it. Everybody else was writing their death. Listen to my peers in ninety three. They all write about their death Snoop Dogg the only one that didn't die does he had a relationship with God. I prayed to God in that song, despite making a deal with the devil, but I prayed to God. That's game. M. You've spoke in the past about people like yourself, Jay Puff, really coming together, unified and really doing some meaningful ship speak on that um. That's just being together means a lot because the world don't never get a chance to see all of these black business minds collaborate. You know, we always do a song with he may got a song with him, He did this with him. But to collaborate on some business that can last forever, it's important because it it shows brotherhood and it builds something that's gonna last forever because we all don't lose. You got people that don't lose coming together. That's something that's eternal, and it's not even an ego thing. It's about who's gonna be mad enough to say, let's do it. I always bring it to the table, everybody knowing the life of the party. When I come in, I always pushed the line up, let's do something together. What's your initiatives so I can help you first and foremost what you need me to do for you? All right? Cool, that we got that out the way. Here's what I want to do with you. Let's get some money. How about that? Everything that a conversation about that. That's one thing that people don't know is how insane your hustle is and how many different things you got your hand in. And really it's and I've seen you in action when you're when you're in the process of deals and situations, you're really just being you and open these people eyes up to a whole new avenue. You know. I heard you're in the text pace now and they want you to come speak to tech stuff. And but like you said, you can't give all that game away for free. You don't know. They gotta break bread effect there, they know it. I need to bag and I need a piece of some of these companies in there. But it's very important to know your brand and know your worth because a lot of times we've been used. And you know, for example, an athlete that went to a certain college on university. When he's at that university, he makes that university millions of dollars because he plays his ass off on the basketball court to football field. He wins in the championship. He doesn't make it in the NFL with the NBA. How does that athlete continue to make money? The university ain't gonna pay because they ain't been paying. But if he was smart, he was branding while he was at the school. He was aden up ship while he was there to position itself to him when he finishes, the alumni, the state, the city, the community gonna give him some sort of business or something to tie him into making money because he was so impactful to that position at that school that's constantly growing and getting big deals year after year. But if you ain't talked that, you only concerned with the moment. That's why I say the difference between the u c l A Kid and the USC kid. The u c l A kid is always thinking futuristic and what's ahead of me, the USC kids that I've dealt with always about the moment, and we gotta break that and start thinking about how to do things together and be about us as a brotherhood and not just about the moment. And what can I do for now? Now? What can I do that's gonna last when I'm gone? That's the key, you think, because us, us in the hood, got something to do with it. I think you are seeing the hood has a lot to do with it. But I just think the mentality of the professors, the teachings and the alumni in the direction everything runs from up top. So however the ship is ran up top, his eye is gonna get to you on the bottom. And the way it's ran up top and U s l A, I just feel like it's more of a brotherhood and the fraternity and we got your backing. We're there for you, Like as C is, all right, what have you done for me lately? Because they banned some of my niggas that won national championships, they can't even come up there. How the funk y'all gonna do that? But I can go up there. I ain't want ship for y'all. I ain't done nothing. I ain't even went to one day of class. My picture on the wall, you know, so you're using me. But the motherfucker that brought kids didn't brought money there. I don't got no action what I'm supposed to do? Be happy my faces on the wall. It a funk about that. I got three humeboys that went to U s l A. Him bearing Enrico, and I didn't made money with all of them, all of all of them got something going on, all them smart brothers, you know. So you see he realized that, you know, his son came over. You've seen him in plenty of jerseys that you know, he realized that, you know, better late than never. So what what would I would have went? If I had went to college matt Where I would have went? I used to have a couple of chicks over that way, I wouldn't triple, you know, football. So I feel like there's been a few points, as fans we know, kind of turney points in your life, you know, being acquitted a murderer, um and then the trip you made to Jamaica and when you came you came out of that. It's a snoop. Lying as you say, Blessed Star talk to me about how those experiences kind of shaped your adulthood. Was the acquittal shake your livelihood? You know, my wife, which was my girlfriend at the time, was pregnant with a little snoop and Spank was born. So it was me looking at am I gonna be a part of these kids lives? And if I do get opportunity, how am I gonna be different? How am I gonna be better? And once I did get acquitted, my whole mission was to be a better person, a better man, and if that meant cutting certain people out of my life, that's what it meant, like with a quickness. So you know, when you got things like that where life is on the line, it's easy to make a decision, you know what I'm saying. And that was like it was real for me, but at the same time, it was necessary because that's what kept me alive because without it, AUTO went back to doing the same bullshit and probably being cut down. But realizing and um making changes and being a better person. I was able to create, like a football league all kind of ship from that negative this man from all of that and then the reincordnated situation. Jamaica was in the beginning, I just wanted to go out there and just experience something other than the hotel room because I used to always go out there and just hanging the room. So from doing a record to being affected by the people that took me to the not being e temple, something hit my spirit. Man. It was like I came there open anyway, so I wasn't like trying to like not find nothing. I was there looking and it found me. And Rostafari was like, it was who I was, Like, you don't know who you are and you travel, and when I seen other things and seen what it was about and how it was actually who I was, it helped me to get a better vision on what I was supposed to be do one and I was in two thousand eleven. So look at two thousand eleven snoop line to where I'm at now two thousand. All of the great things that I've done, all of the the up the uproar of things that I've done better people helped Cared tell us a little bit more about your league, because I mean that was something that was started. You know, I know your son played and you didn't really like the league and then but just really more creating a league for neighborhood to keep these kids out of troubling. Ha. Man, your kids are going on to professional careers. Where the league was created in two thousand and five just because I wanted to create a league that could help out single parents and you know, people from the hood that really didn't have a lot of money. Football was like three hundred dollars per kid to play when I started my league, So if there were three kids in one house, you look at about a thousand hours for one parent to pay for football, not to mention cleats and love pieces and jerseys and on kind of extracurriculuship you gotta get. So I was trying to figure a way to make a league that could have great football, have good organizations, and have a nice price connected to it. But grades was implemented, so you had to have a two point or g p A to play. But if you maintain a two point on g p A, your parents would have to pay one hundred dollars for you to play. But if there were two kids in the house, the second kid was fifty dollars. So and this was a clause that we put in. Matt and Jack, your cousins y'all don't stay together. But Matt, mom are gonna pay for you to play. So hunting for Matt fifty for you. That's the plan Buck fifty. So you see how took the price and sliced it in had But I put Grazes the initiative. So it wasn't just all this nig is just making money. Now I'm making about the grades. We gotta start somewhere, two point oh in a lot, but it's it's a start, it's average. We're gonna teach you how to be average. Then we're gonna teach you how to come up. I graduated with a one point seven. But so you gotta start somewhere, thought it too. You gotta start somewhere with these kids though, man, And when I was growing up, we always to say the best athletes was the dumbest. When I was a kid, it was always the dumb job that was the best nig on the team. He was the best athlete, But he's the dumbest, motherfucking class. He would sunk up in school, he would wouldn't remember the plays, come to the game late. That's just what it was. So I wanted to build an era of we want the scholasticket m athlete. There was scholastic. We wanted to be a scholar and an athlete. You understand me, because I've seen the game grow. Football got smart. It was just pitch right, pitch left. It was schematics, it was numbers, it was assignments. It was and in order to win, you have to adjust. So I had to adjust as a coach. So I had to adjust with my playbook with my football league to give them different ship and make my league fun. Because Vince Staples played in my league and this is the ship that he said that touched my heart. He was like, nigga called me coach snoop. Nigga said, coach snoop nigga, When you let us put our names on the back of our jerseys, that was the best ship ever. Not their last names, but they sweet name whatever their hood name were. That blew they fucking mind when I did that. And that just was me just being a real nigga, Like this nigga name hit chill up. This nigga name hit him man. This nigga named man Chap, like you know what I'm saying. And then them kids weren't crazy and Vince Stay pull as a grown ass rapper said, you changed my life. You changed all of my homeboy's life when you did that, because we was bad as funck and all we want to do is playing your league. And one of the homies had to stand on push cans down to get fifty dollars to play, but he raised fifty dollars so he could play. Like it's stories like that that my league was built on. That's like, that's my baby. And I got over five kids that then graduated from high school, over three hundred that then graduated from Division one program, and over twelve that mayor in the NFL. That's better than some my school. Come on, man, we've been when just two thousand five tell me what what the most reported? That's the obviously the most rewarding part of mentoring for you. It's just showing them there's another way. You know what. The best part in n B I ain't gonna lie to you is want a grown man called me coach. That ship is like the best feeling in the world, man, because that means you meant a lot, because I know when I called my coach coach, I can see how it touches his heart that I still call him coach as a grown ass man. You know what I'm saying. Like, he came to my concert the other day, right, one of my coaches, and I brought this nigga back to coach my little league team because we couldn't beat this particular team until we brought this nigga back and then we wanted off. Coach, Murol Nickel, you know, I love you, Coach, come to my show soon as I get off stage. This is what the niggas saying. Man, he was up there for a long time. Man, you start drinking water to hydre, I said, coach, I've been drinking water all day. No, I'm just saying you need to highsta. That's just the coaching you. Man. I'm good. This is the ship I do, coach. This ain't football, this this ship is my lane. Nick I just scored something touchdowns, you hear me. I don't sweat this is what I do. But that is the best for them in the world. When I'm at a gas station, right and I'm by myself, like two in the morning in a car pull up with folk niggers, and I'm scared as a motherfucker, and the niggers jumped out of the car and one of niggas like, what's up, coach? No like ship that is good? Right? Used to be a time when that car and pull up? What's up? Niggle from? Yeah? See, we live to learn. Ye know what I mean. I'm gonna smoke the rest of your joint. I have smoked all my blood. You do what I say? There, you go, Jack, you appreciate it, Harry Tales, and make believe the Battle of l A. I mean you nigga got us right now, They got us right now, and our customer. You heard that I went off, did y'all? I've seen it. What you know, we saw it right in the locker room too, the locker room down. Yeah, that was signed out. Broke them niggas in. I rather them though, matter on something like because they got to understand what they mean. That a right, You niggas could go oh and eighty two. Beating them niggas across the street matters more than anything. That's like Ohio State Michigan, that's like any other rivalry in sports, Like they mean more than the Celtics nigga. Okay, and the Celtics got championships, but right now they got the mouth and the so you gotta shut that, shut that up. But I already know what the plan is. Let me hear Let me hear it, Coach. When they get to May, when they gets to the merry month of May, we're gonna see how y'all play we played them. That's the only thing that's missing is the tone of the gay that little nigga, Beverly I walk an alley with. I will go in the alley with him and slap the nigga's auntie. That's sant Patrick. Now I'm nickel because he's a goon. He takes Lebrono. That last play, Oh that was so goonish, Like, come on, man, he's a gooney man. Man, you gotta give him his man. I don't like him niggas, but I love him niggas. I mean, it is what it is, man, Kauai know what it is. I'll be wearing his sweatsuits and ship fucking with you, understand me. But I think at the end of the day, if we both make it to the championship, the Western Conference finals, we got something for them, because like they're shooting they wide out right now, Seattle. I disagree, y'all, got the top record. The chilling, that's what not once they see right now they're like three. But it don't matter what I said. The leg is gonna win, but the clip is chilling right now. We don't need to be mean to say they be clipping honorary Laker too. I mean, so, I just love the battle. I grew up a Laker fan, died hard Legger fan. But I really feel like we kind of put the Clippers back on the map. So I really took pride and trying to put them on the city. It'll never be. It will never be. The Clippers will never be with the Lakers are no matter. It just never happened. I ask you this, do you think this team better than Live City were what I'm saying, We're playing CP at the one. I think I think the only thing they was missing was a Lou Williams. Oh yeah, that's nothing. We had a Jamal Cross. The only thing we're off the same exactly. The only thing we was missing was chemistry. That's what held us back. We got in our own way and injuries. Yeah, because CP and Blake, Oh we did it, yeah, but I think we kept ourselves on When it to me, that's one of the teams that should have ended thing that I know the Clippers that it's gonna be effective if that that nigga Kawhi Leonard i Q so motherfucker highs like niggas don't even take that into the equation. But I'm a sports guy and I always have to look at that part of the game, like the i Q can win more than ability and skills. He's so sharp that he understands the dynamic of First of all, I've seen the nigga workout when I went to the finals against Golden State right last year. I've seen this nigga workout because I was there early. He was the only niggle on this goal that Nigga would shooting nothing but mid range, mid range, mid range. I watched the next nigga come out three three three, three free through three three. I said, Oh, this nigga is smart, see because everybody want the three, but the mid range is a guaranteed too. If your i Q was right, you're gonna hit that mid range more than you hit that three. Then when you want the three, there it's there. That's why this nigga is so good. A lot of his intelligence and gang smarts and the composure for sure come from being around Tim Duncan. But I'm watching I'm watching his the way he liked. He don't get right on nothing. And they could be down by fifteen and they can pull up hit that mere range. You're back on d Patrick Beverly didn't got a neigger to throw the ball off on his own feet. Now they're down by level, they're clapping and ship and the ship here comes to bullshit. Williams didn' hit the three from the corner and fell out and they gave him a four point play. I'm like, oh my god, the dread lock like the predator coming through the middle, and we just we just we just we just y'all. The Lakers need Jamal Crawford. That's who we need. That they need someone he can aswer. Oh I say, I say, in the merry month of May, we will have an acquisition because I just everything ain't what it's supposed to be at. Something missing. It's some missing. Jay Crawford and the White Howard. I got to give him a shout out, the new Dwhite Howard. This nigga is the Comeback Player of the Year or whatever that award is for. H am I right, A wrong, Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That ship from what the way he looked last year to now, he went through a lot last year. He looked good last time. Not even that when I seen him with the Hawks and the all the mother sorry teams, he looked bad. He looked amazing right now his spirit has looked, has rebound his deep and like that, Nigga is the ship. I watched the Lakers, Nigger, that's my squad. And then too, what a lot of people gonna tell y'all he going in the game plan against the second unit. Ain't no second unit and no league can stop Dwhite Howard. So that's another reason why he shined. He planned against the second He really he can dominate against starters. It looked like he on our planet now the way he playing in just because I can't see that just natural, just wake up in my game. I think he just had one of those welcome to the friendly Scott, you will be flying at an all time. But it was redemption. I think he knew this is his last chance, you know what I mean? He looked good. I'm happy for him, We're proud of him. I love him. I loved him when he came the first time. I love him on the second side. Good Ship, d White. That's what's up? What should have been your most favorite Laker moment as a you know what? One of them is this right? When the Lakers won, Right and Nigga's won. I think they beat the Trail Flagers in that game. And uh when when that motherfuck up and she caught that motherfucker nigga, Me and my homeboys kicked the locker rooms. We kicked it in and went in there with him nigga and busted in Nigga and came in that mother fucking was doing the interviews with Jim Hill and all kinds of niggas. We was excited like a motherfucker because that's when Shaq was the realist nag in the world. He'd leave tickets at the thing for nigger and he would leave wearing wrist band and he'd be like, when you just take it off and give it to the next person to come in. And that's how we used to get right. That's when the Skype whatever that ship was, I think with sky page or skyping or something, and I star always hit the nigga. Big Daddy I need some tickets to the game. And this was the big game against the Trailblazers, and I'm nigga. When the niggas won, we came in that locker room and it was just like we was a part of the team. And Phil Jackson was looking at us like we was crazy and the motherfucker he was looking like, how did these niggas get in here? Were like, Nigga, we went, We went the niggas, That's how we got in and they won that motherfucker. That was like, because yeah, all the mother Championship moments was like, I was just a fan that ship felt like I was on the Yeah. And then let me let me stop lying. When they beat New Jersey game Folk, they swept their dog head asses. And we was in New Jersey and and and jay Z was there and all kind of New York niggas was there, and me and Nate Dog. We had flow seats, nigger. We was on the float, Nigga, me and Nate Dog and we watched them count that ship down. N Hey and the Los Angeles Lakers are like two thousand three times defending give me the ball, a shock on me the ball, trying to run out with the ball. Nigga chase me. Now, hey, that's property of the NBA. Nigga niggah gave me the ship. I'm gonna fight this nigg over the ball and it's nigga tossing and ship. Give it to him, big Home. I'll get you another one. Motherfucker's well. People, we appreciate because when you came and started riding with that, we believe team. Yeah, we had a lot of fun hunt them there when we had beat Uh. Y'all niggas was representing California. Man please, y'all was representing Golden State, California. And I liked the way y'all played, and y'all spirit was like it was like mine, Like I funk with y'all. That was a hell of a team y'all had to. I had brought him down to my birthday party. Remember you're around the time too. He's supposed to do actually thirty minutes. Let me tell you how I really kept it. It was supposed to be on the stage thirty minutes. He ended up being almost three hours, and and in his rider he wanted to uh PlayStation in the back with games and food and all that. We left all that motherfucker took my xbox though you know what said say, could that nigga Stephen Jackson drink a lot of henness? She could I cook? Hearing all the threes and handing out like that, like that nigga is a jay nigger. And they got there hentied out here threes on y'all, nigga talking ship, ready to fight with every and anybody. So we go, we're gonna so we're gonna do ah. It's we're gonna animation. Animation part to this so by the time we're gonna make all this ship work, so we're gonna animate. The night we beat Dallas and go to State and we ended up at your hotel at the rist Remember that, boy, do I ever? We have some strong conversations that hold on. Let but let me tell you how to it started. You're sitting at a desk with a fifty box of swishes. We want swishes. Then you had a fifty box, you busted down, hit it, pass it to him, and we go around rolling another You did it for about an hour and a half and we didn't move. My sister was so how My sister didn't smoke. She was so host she passed out. Maybe we was watching us there. You had the blue Carpet treatment cartoons. You know, you hadn't put it out yet, you were showing us it. Yeah, what what did the hotel people do? Bro hotel? So the hotel people come, ain'ting on the door, and we as athletes were like fun, were trying to prep. We're in the season still, so we're thinking like, oh, ship, here we go. They come in, Hey, snoop, the gang fellas. They unscrew the windows, lift the windows up just so the smoke, and go out, ask us if we need anything. We all look like that's when Stern was the president. Stern had understanding. They came and unscrewed the windows at the wrist. But the whole night was crazy. So we beat Dallas. We were the only teams they got seen a HBO special on that nigga blowing like a broke stow that nigga. I'm like, good, that's yeah. But that night, so we beat them. So we go back to Jack's apartment and we start doing what we do. So we drink and smoking, celebrating, and then Nellie lives on the top floor, so we go up to Nellie's penthouse. He got a gang of people in there, and we come in there as soon as he come in and uh, j hey, fellas, what do you what do you here? Says in the back rolling Dubis And we look at each other like what my motherfucking coach telling us someone's in the back roller. Week So we go out there and start smoking with him. You know what no NBA team doing, Like, come on, man, man, Don Nelson coach in the seventies, nigga. I remember seeing that nigg on the sideline the seventies nigga. That nigga is hard because I want to me I want to hang out with y'all, coach man. Wait, we're gonna take a trip out there and do that. Hey, I want to try to Nellie Cush this big snoop dog. I want to give you the five star green thumbs of approval so that way you can be official like a Reugh free with the West, we were doing the do we believe doc and everything. So just come with us out there with us. Man, Come on, man, I've seen his get down man looking flies with motherfucker Nellie. How was that place though? Let me tell you this is pre Steph Curry and them y'all had that motherfucker. And it was Loan in there too. It was it was it was made. You can smell. But on the way in that motherfucker, it was so littening. And I was openen California. That ship was so locked because I know my dad used to tell me, he said, you know, all these white people are smoking silets. I'm out here just smoking my joint the only bottom. They were special, man, they were special. That was man. I hug out with the owners kids. Man, the two little dudes, I let him wear my little chain. Happen. Yeah, Man, we start studied that out. So let's transferum, the current state of the NBA. What you think about the league right now? You know we play like a lot of us they alread like when y'all older guys hating. I don't think the game is physical. I don't think guys care as much. I know what I had to do to get to the NBA second to last draft pick. I know I had going overseas and all this ship. I know what I had to do. I know what the game meant to me, and I know how Man and Matt played the game until we couldn't play no more. We played it with a certain passion um. The game has grew a lot, you know, thanks to Lebron, with guys getting hate a lot of money. You know, the game that they're having to day where they can choose where they want to play. But the competition, it seems like and the and and and the fight to win, it seems like it's kind of dripped in the way. What what what is your uh? What? How do you think the game the state of the game is right now? Do you think it's like it's in a good place or shouldn't go back to the old type of style like the rough style, guy sewing they care more about the game. I started watching basketball in the seventies, gus, so you know the fight come with that, man, please. I watched Kareem and he's getting the fight and didn't get suspended, came right back, sat down for commercial. Nigga check her and we'll be right back back in the game. Looking for real. These motherucker's be getting man. I just I just don't know, man, like I say, And another thing, and I'd be wanting to speak on It's like they'll be putting too much on some of these new players. Man like they're good, but they're not that good. When they were talking about Luca Donche just being the best twenty year old, that rubbed me the wrong way. For one, Moses Malone came out of high school and nigga, you ain't nowhere near Moses Malone. Motherfucker at Moses Malone average a double double nigga with the Houston Rockets. Don't get it fucked up. Then he came to Philadelphia and beat us four games than none with Kareem and Magic, took them to the prominent. I cried like a fucking baby. He broke my heart. They made me cross. He was twenty years old, but he came in the league at twenty. I didn't see him at twenty, but when I seen him do what he did, I could imagine what the nigga was doing that twin And the league was harder back then. That's one thing I'll definitely give it to you, see what I'm saying. Starting back then, definitely, but even up until kind of we almost stopped was it was just a much more physical tougher to get it done. That y'all niggas had at the Palace made them solve in the league up speak on it because the league was real until that point. Like ship, motherfucker, gett into a squad. It is what it is. I mean, you know, fucking and I may see you after this and funk your ass something that it is what it is. It's what it is. If you bought that life, that's what it's about. After that, they started. If you jump off the sideline, you get to spend it for three games, which funck did the first Phoenix Suns when they came up the sideline, like you you softened in the game up he comes through the lane. The the was it the Jordan rule at first? Man? Damn it damn like they softened the ship up, like come on, man, like make this ship what it used to be. It's the same for football. It's like they softening that up. It's like you gotta lead the ship for what it is. But what I do like about the NBA is that the players are in control. I like that point because the half control means everything and their voices heard. They're not like shut up, nigga and throw the ball. Nah, you tell me to shut up and driple nigga. I may dribble up on your ask for the TV show and all kinds of ship's gonna You're gonna leave me alone, you know what I'm saying. So it's like that's the plus to it all. And then y'all got a motherfucking commission that's flexible. That's like, all right, he in there, what you even talked by the best, so you know how to do it? No, not to do it. They can get up in there, mix it up and get get to understand it, get flying with this ship. Let it be about the players. Let let the players grow the league. Let the players be the stars, let them shine, let them be the voice of the league. Whatever views that they got, match that. If they got social ingested, you match that. Whatever match that, get on it, get on it with a quickness. Because y'all generate a lot of money. Y'all make a lot of motherfucker's want to be a part of this ship. Come out for him. The platform is huge. Now. The next step is taking marijuana out like baseball did because baseball got smart and said, well, ain't nobody really hitting seventy home runs? Were smoking a joint? Now these steroids nigger may hit hunting thirty shot home runs and be a different color in for five years. Sammy hand side down bleached your whole life. Toy story here to ask Nigga, but my whole thing with that thing, it's not even so much the Major League Baseball says smoke weed. They just stopped testing for it. I think the NBA is worried about their image, like we're sending the wrong message. But it's not even the images. The images. This when players like yourself and you and players can admit to Hey, when I played, I smoked. It actually helped me. And that's why I'm able to speak in my right mind and conduct business and have a show and have other businesses because I didn't get addicted to open yours, none of the other ship that y'all was trying to give me. So now I'm able to conduct a regular life and raised kids and still have babies after I get out the league because I didn't suck my ship up and throw my ship off, and I'm able to still be a productive citizen without my sport that made me so much money and not being addicted to nothing that's connected to the sport. Who's your favorite player to watch outside of Lakers? Like we know you know you're a big Laker fan. Who's who's someone you watch outside of the Lakers. Damn Um. I like that new nigger from Memphis. He cold, he cold, he little, but he cold a lot of games. I like his heart like you can't buy hard like you know what I'm saying, Like, you can't buy that like and when you got that in you, that go a long way. Like when they put some goons around him, oh shipping matter there and get him somewhere else. He nasty. He like Kimba Walker looking Boston. You know, I like you put him the team with some niggers that can get out now. He looked good now and I set out there struggling every night to try to beat five niggas by himself. He put them to the Big Three championship. Yeah, who that you? I want you to Please tell them you're from. When you walked out the arena to the back to the locker rooms. Please tell them because you stopped somewhere else before you got to meet. Let him know how you know what steps on the way to my locker room. Well, when I walked out, the first locker room I've seen was the victorious team and they was in there popping champagne and pouring champagne with each other. So I was like, I'm dressed to fly for this ship. So as I continue to walk my two cans, Sam nose of mine, my nose always nose, but your nose nose. It was like, hold on, we need to go down this way. It's smell like we need to be in this area. So we're walking and walking and then somebody say, hey, my niget jacking him and there. Oh that's all I need to hear. I go in there with them, a couple of little bitties in there. We get the little bitties out of there, take a picture with him, smile bit get gone, now to be grown, chash side of head, get them out of there. And then we commenced to fine and the Clippers locker room. Fine, losing team, but we had the championship. It was it was emotion too. Was remember to see you came in there? Yeah, yeah, that was dope to man, you made me feel how deep that moment. He was on a losing team and uh, you know, we all are talking, but ceo Q come in there with his wife and just tell me how much they appreciate everything I've done. For the league and what I give to the league, and that meant a lot because we're just lost, you know what I'm saying. But qu to bring his wife and the shot. You know what I'm saying, That man a lot and you know he was there to see that moment. You help the league win. How was the kid? That overall picture was you brought a league up because of the way you play, the way you're having your business, the way you committed to it. You make it easy for the next retired athlete to say, let me gonna try that ship. Because I was in Arizona thanks to Matt with my Nigga easy riding and I was like, Jr. You need to get in the Big three. He's like, you think cute? What had me cute? N JR. Rider Cube saying, tell him to come to the combo Nigga and you're gonna get picked. Nigga. You JR. Nigga, Nigga show up and show up. N I miss you, Nigga, and the league is you. The League is us. It's like it's it's the rebirth of you. Nigga's man, and you can have your great ship. Nigga. Continue on, Mobley and motherfucking my mood. Niggers out there, great up, nigga. Go this us nigger, This is us nigga. We can't a right that ship. This USA m J L. Kobe Kobe Man all time, greatest time lank, all time, greatest magic. Okay, give me your talk, give me your top five, the magic Kareem Kobe Jordan's shack. That's your all time top fix. Lebron's number six. Maybe further back, Will Okay, well, gotta come, Will the sixth man. Got to have these were coming in here like the dog and niggers out who can deal with that? Off the bed? Yeah? And then Lebron, you go, Will Lebron, that's nice. Backup right there, six seventh man. In case Magic need a breather, You're gonna do it all. That's what I'm saying. With that run man, please on NBA two K you can have it like that. With your longevity and being an entertainer, what's been the secret of maintaining a relationship with your your family dynamic? What's been the secret? Nothing's perfect, everything is up and down. But tell me what would have been your tricks to maintain just trying to keep them involved? Um with my family. I try to like this ship is like a juggling act. And if you got a family, you understand what I mean. From the mother to the kids, to the grandparents, to the siblings and all of the ship to come along with it. I just try to keep them all attached, like in some form of fashion. That's why I built the compound, because that was my way of saying, how can I have something that's all of ours, that's an epicenter that we can always come to if we need to get away, we need to talk, need to cry, laugh, making music, video's party, whatever this is it. And I had to build that because for a moment, I only had that you know what I'm saying, and they had to get in where they fit in based off you know, my plays. But to be a better family man, a better business man, you build ship for the family and for the business. So that's why I built the compound, and that's why the family has been executing on the level that we have for so many years, considering that I have epicenter where we can do that, where we could chop it up and get it right when it's wrong. Me and you personally spoke because I was real. I was a football player first and just loved yourself the athletic busin you said, you what you questioned my football? No, No, I didn't had check all the records. I had to cough anyway out of here. Check the replacements. Yeah, I was gonna stop on the football. So we got plenty of people to speak to that anyway, As I was saying, we was talking about your son playing going to u c l A, playing football and then him stepping away from it because it wasn't really what he wanted. Talk to me a little bit about that. Who That was a heavy one in the beginning, because you know, as a father, you know, you you live through your kids. Ain't no other way around it, especially if you didn't make it in sports and your kids making it in sports, you basically you are them. You living for them with them, and you are them. So when he makes it, we make it. And for him to get to that level of going to a Division one program where Jim Moore and you know, coach ARBs all came and recruited him and you know, got him there, and it's like he's projected to do so many great things and then don't even show up to the first practice, just nowhere to be found music about it, and I was so excited, even though he chose a school, but I was excited for him because he was going to do his thing. And I knew that when he chose that school, he was gonna have longevity after football. So he don't show up ship going bad. We like six seven days into the first week a camp, finally sit down and catch up to him, and it's like a burden is off his shoulders when he say what he say to me, like in so many words, I've been playing for you my whole life like and he had coached him since he was six years old. I made that nigger play show ask all there and he became good. But I was always say in daddy ball, you're either gonna make your son the greatest athlete in the world, either gonna hate the funk out of you. Ain't no in betweens. And I made him the greatest athlete in the world that I could, and I beget I begin to see he was gonna hate me. So him pulling back made us do this because football was gonna do this. This brought us here to where now I gotta support you not what you're doing, but support you no matter what you're doing. And then I got got to a point to where I've seen that he needed me as a kid. So what he's six to a hundred and eighty pounds, looked like a grown ass, and they're gonna sun he a kid them your babies, Matt, when they grow up like they're getting taller, they steal them little bitty babies that cry and do all that soft ship their babies. And it's like, no matter how big they get, you gotta always remember that. So I had to keep that in mind and not be mean, but be understanding and say I got you now, I live your life, m what you want to do? I got you. Now I gotta pay for You'll ask to go to U c l A when you had a full scholars but I got you. How much of this ship? God damn you? Sure you don't want to go to a community college? Niggas something that's interesting here though, because I coached my boys. But one thing I learned early too, it was to never pressure them to do you know, I made it, I played my my I spent my fifteen years. You enjoyed the ride, You saw what it was about, but it's always on your time. So if you want to work out, we could work out. If you don't want to work out, if you want to be good, you want to be better, you want to continue to prove us on you. And it finally just turned the level and they finally go shoot dah, let's go dribble, let's let's let's go do this, let's go play. And it made me feel good because, like I said, I was never gonna push him so that he had a coach Cordell at six years old and seven years old. At eight, nine, eleven twelve, I stopped coaching. He was on my team, but I never talked to him. He played wire receiver and he played defensively. Only time I would talk to him as if I would give him the signal to run the nine route or to run a slam route. I wouldn't talk to him at all because I've seen that he was better getting coached by somebody else, and he was better just being my son. On the ride home, we was on some like what you want you want to buy her fresh? Nigger? What Bert nigger? Don't want to hear nig? You know you were supposed to catch that ball nigger that x M was wrong and I told you the why four or five six, two three, x L left two three five? Isn't that the funds? All these numbers shut the funk up practices over? Wouldn't what's your top three movies all time? The mac? Can't you buy that? Yes? Don't make me going to yes, get into it. Just I'm cool. I'm cool angle to do it right now. Uh, let's see what two is? Godfather and it's got to be a Eddie Murphy movie because it's probably gonna be Trading Places or forty eight hours. Classic top three movies you played in the roads? You liked training Day, Uh, star skiing Hutch and Bones as I got to the wheelchair training Day? Yeah, but well Bones, I got to be uh with Pam Grier that's you know what that means? Man? Please? Who would play you in your life story? Fuck? I don't know. Maybe something young actor that's flies and motherfucker that's up, up and coming. I don't know right now. I would say Wesley Snips, but that nigga too. Chocolate. Biggest regret up to this point. Biggest regret. Uh, I have none nor regrets. I love it how old are you right now? Nine? Brof what we're doing for fifty? What are we going? I'm about to be forty in March, bro fund of let all my ship go great because I'm gonna sleep with it. Looking you're gonna stop dying it. I ain't died it. That's what I haven't done. Like you didn't die your ship. You over looking like Bernardi niked real quick before we finish up. You're kind of the poster boy. You've been telling us this ship before about weed and what it does in the powers. What do you think of the state of cannabis right now? They're starting to legalize and all the ship to come with it. I'm so happy for the awareness of cannabis and how it's becoming so necessary. So rather than the topic of discussions, so many bars, dispensalies, so many states, cities, um, so many politicians. It's like that a great discussion is great for health benefits, is saving a lot of people, is keeping people here? Is keeping our sandy level? Right? Um? I think if the motherfucking president smoked some dope or smoked some weed, he wouldn't act like he was on dope. He understand what I'm saying. So with that being said, the growth and how it's growing and becoming a vehicle, I'm happy at that, but I would like to see all of my niggas that's locked up for weed to be released a sap like right now, like just because like why not not? Why we're the NBA version of you because everywhere we go we smoke always. Yeah, we're gonna. We was raised. We was raised on and weirds was raised on me too, because this nigga is crazy because like you know, as you get older, you start getting like nice, right, So I didn't got older and nice. So we had a friend of ours wedding and turks and cacos and a whole other country. Right, So I got weed. But I'm trying to be it's a wetness. You know. It's my my white home girl. There's a lot of white people there, so I don't just want to act a nigga just coming in. So I come in. I me and my wife and my daughter were sitting down being respectable, and hey, how you guys doing here? What's going on? Hey snoop, Hey, hey it's going out all that bullshit here this nigga, Weirds walk in, walk right to me. What's up. I'm like, hey man, I'm trying to be different today. Oh fuck it, you're just gonna turn me out like that. Huh. Now, everybody looking at me like we thought you were better than that. Well fuck it. He brought the ship in. But that's a product of what I've I've raised shouts. What would the forty nine year old you tell the one ye old you about this game? Oh man, I would have uh been a little bit more selective with the people that I put in positions of power. M hm, Like that's very key, like to give people power. Everybody don't deserve it. That should be earned. When you earn it, you get it, does somebody give it to you? It's really like miss misuse or Yeah, that's what I learned. Last question, what do you know for sure that Snoop Dogg gonna live forever? M It's a great way to wrap it. What do you know for sure? I'm about to smoke as soon as we get it finished, I'm gonna make ten million. Can I guess that? Whatever you need? Hey man, that's all. Hey, we want all the man. We appreciate Snoop for coming through the show time d o double hey man. Shout out to the showtime executives for um being uh smoked friendly. Appreciate you all, and now you got to You said you're coming with us to tow you're on the way. I'm coming to funk with you. Why I normally have a begging segment, I don't know. This is a different one, snoop. So I you know why I came back from that. Remember last time I've seen you, what you blessed me with? Did I hit you a grocery bag? So I'm good, We're good. We're good. No begging today, first time, first time for first show, elvera. What my grocery bags looked like? Healthy cent sex with the green tied the big ones talk to him like a real guard man. I took it all home, they talked back. How about you calls though, h how about you call? Street prices are dispensiony price? Because I know both know what did you pay? Oh I pay? I didn't pay a dime. That's that's what I didn't pay a dime. So that's why the beggart segment is getting counseled today. Three nine. That's what we call it. Man, that's a wrap We want to thank our guest Snoop, my brother Jack another it again. All the Smoke twenty takeover Showtime YouTube, Basketball channel in all platforms, streaming, podcast, all of them. Mo Monroe's wanting for the financial terrorist attack Black Monday, Black Monday, what's my idea? It's me It was a Wall Street himself. Mos back Baby,