Big-time rappers Jim Jones & Maino join the boys on a special EXTRA SMOKE episode. The duo discusses their new collaboration, how they squashed a beef to start the 'Lobby Boyz', and their experiences with Biggie & Tupac.
M M. Welcome back all the smoke, New York edition. What's up, bro? You got the cocaine the day? Huh yeah, your I don't know, you don't know. We ain't gonna find out now, We're not gonna find out the day two in New York had a great day yesterday. We got two good ones today. Man, introduce your folks. My brother's from another mother. You know what I'm saying. Uh, I've been doing the vamp king for a minute, you know what I mean. But these brothers coming out with a new came out with a new project, the Lobby Boys. But we've benen't want to have Jim on the show, and he's just blessed. We're bringing May No. Two, So we're getting the two for one a day. Jim johnes a man on the building being big lobby Lobby Boys. Get to what I mean. Your interaction is like family. So how did y'all meet? We met a long time ago. We didn't like each other. Just get it right out the way. Three d niggas every time I'm seeing them. No, we we had we had mute you friends. We didn't really we don't really I can't say we didn't get along because we ain't know each other. You know, sometimes you know, you you you can judge things from the from from the outside, right, so it's like you can you can look at something like I don't like this nigger right until you get to meet him and you say yourself, then this man, this nigga, like we like some of the same ship, you do some of the same things. And that's how it was. We ain't wein't we knew each other from the outside, and that representation of our images and you know, plus I was saying slick ship. So it was like, you know a lot of yeah, yeah, but I got you said Jimmy getting big, something about Jimmy geky wrap. Yeah, I mean you know, I was that I had that type of energy, I said. And what happened was when we click, we click, yeah, we click. It wasn't no second it was it was it was just like love from the door. I told you about to say love at first sight. I'm about to say, your bugging bro, we up here. You can't yet, can't be this high yet. We've been debating, no enjoying. I think we live in a Hampson wheel so much that we don't get to enjoy our successes or what we accomplished. We always onto the next thing. We've been talking about that the last couple of days, a kind of appreciating what the fun you've been through. You overcame, what you've accomplished. This is important. You retired, you got millions, and you get to live the rest of your life however you want to. You heard, you already did the hard part. Now it is about bawling and living. Whatever it is you had on your buckelets. You got the money to make the buckelets go on, and if that's the south of it, whatever it is, you just feel like you need to do yoker do now. Basketball was the hard part. That's you know what I mean. As much enjoyment as you got from me, right, that was the hard part I had to go through. You had to go through days and days and you don't miss the game. I love what I'm doing the game, but I don't miss I miss it. I love what I'm doing. Now you'll need something else to fulfill that void because I coached my kids, so that's kind of my game. That's yeah, that's in box. So they couldn't call you, they couldn't pay you to get back on the court right now, no amount of money. Don't want to do it. I can't. I'm not gonna go out to embarrass myself. I've been five years or move. It's like you know what I mean, my body ain't gonna always play. But it's just like getting off that bikers. Why didn't starting so much trouble? It was not what's the problem? So we was talking to you next, buddy, what's your problem? Why didn't you try to flinch that Kobe? He didn't move? Did you feel bad after that? He was cold with that one. He try to do it. He Kobe was like dog. He he loved me for but no grant. He was sitting right here yesterday and he said, whenever throughout my career, whenever I had some ship, it was never with me one on one. It was me defending my teammates told me ship was different me and code was about that. That's my We always had a mutual respect, just back and forth respect because you know, I saw him at U c. L A. When he was young and I was in college, and so there was a mutual respect. But Kobe was obviously a physical, physical killer, but like a mental giant too. He tried to physically fun you or mentally fuck you over too, so that the grabbing the elbow and that just the ship that the rest wouldn't call. And I was just trying to hear me and my sternum and knocked all the wind out of me, and the rest of the rest just looked at me. So I was trying to fight him, I told him, But I was trying to fight you, bro. So the ball fake ship just happened. And what you did a lot of punching though, and how like you with it? I mean, I wish you lucky to say had every clip right, did a lot of punch. That's how me and Jack I just got along. We was very similar from that standpoint. Then when he came to our team and oh seven six basketball lobby boys, you know that to be they like that basketball lobby boy, like Manna get the shows made basketball lobby Definitely, definitely we don't. We don't have lobbies, and in Texas put off the Texas shout out pimps and bumby. But with the war we got our own for that's the lobby. The lobby, and you progregated. I'm trying to get that's the lobby. Any place in the street you face adversity and trying to get out of this, that's the lobby I figured I will fit for. That's not a version of all of in the cities. That's why the country. But we got lobbies, y'all got corners. So he's got the war, something's got. The project is all the representation of the same thing, same and what we're trying to show people as the unity and the things that we came up against and how we came over it, and we still a work in progress and trying to show people an example of what you can be coming from nothing, coming from different lobbies too, right, coming from coming from that pain. So it didn't matter if it's the courtyard behind the building, on the project benches in front of your building, you know, because just because certain places is built geographically different, it's still the same thing where we congregated. As as as as young kids with dreams, you know, some of us had NBA dreams, some of us had dreams to be the biggest drug deal or whatever it was. You know, we lost friends, we lost family members, those that that that era at those times is what made us who we are. Today, right y'all, y'all living testament of of of hard work of progress, and y'all made it out. We we did the same thing on our side. You understands the whole different level because I know what you. I know what you've been through. Different levels, right, Indeed, and roads lead to the same place if you focus. Yeah, your shows early to use basketball as the vehicle to get out the same thing. For us, we figured out our vehicle. Our vehicle ended up being the music at the team min and ship like that. Even for Man, he's even more iller because he had a way iller start, a way harder start than anybody coming coming back from damn nig with banning them? Was that I mean shotting right now? You heard he was with banting that. Yeah, definitely with the bang. I like that Batman Batman, Yeah what I got the shot, I got, I got the start, I got the news. See, I'm cool with the Batman on Batman, but he don't want to come to groups that he got kle and I got the Dark Knight ship. This ship that comes with all a many my suit, come with all amenities. That ship is like a seven star hotel. My Batman, all amnities that they had in the cartoon. Oh, this is crazy comic books. Bro, you know you don't have the TV. You gotta have a question because we're gonna go through this whole day. Bro, I don't want to argue with you today. Bro, both of y'all give me two artist, two artist. Y'all idolized growing up people. Definitely one of my top that's like one that's like, I'm not nothing. We've in comment. We love Tupop Tupop, but then after that it's like I can't really put a finger on it. Maybe like but then it was like rock Cam. Then it was like Big Daddy King. Then it was like slick Drink. Then it was like dude, I would telling somebody yesterday, like I learned how to drink liking through hip hop music. Jason backed up in the steadcase Trupop put you on a duck passion. Nigus was a drinking Henessey to Trupop start saying Hennessey because we were drinking I and J because that's what Naves told us to do. And then we had the same nas the niggers were doing all the same. Nois you started drinking the same eyes, Like think about that you started drinking off of hip hop, don't you, nigs, We really started drinking of hip hop. Niggs did a lot off for hip hop, I said. I was like, that's it's definitely a blueprint to life. See the music was the soundtrack to to lifestyle that was already happening. It just broadened it, you know what I mean, Like the things that rappers were talking about were already things that was going on. Dr Drake, you know what was that uh Nigga Tanga ray Nigga? See grim Nigger, Nigger wasn't on that to Snoop and them start talking about that tang Yeah, that was a l a that was a West Coast drink. We wasn't on that. Soon as he said that Nigga was on that tangaray, Let's see what this tangaray is about my life? But that that that's the faction for you always did influence you. It's very influence you. And here we are today, many years later, and and we we're the biggest influence in the world. Facts that right, we've been that it took away, Yeah, but we're finally we're finally starting to monetize off it. That's why they're starting to recognizing that because we've never been They've always been telling our stories like this is important. What y'all important to show? Motherfucker's like damn those two did this, or y'all too, they did like anybody right, because at the end of the day, it's about inspiration, bro, Like we we were here for a certain amount of time, right then we're going right and and it's about not how long you live, but how well you live and what you did, what impact you may I want to do something that that is that is very impactful. I want to do something that that that that that I want to die legend because if you either you either you die leg you know, they just won't remember you, understand, So it's important on what you do with the time that you got. Right now. Sports fans, both of your Knicks fans, I'm a Knicks fans fan. I'm a Knicks fan, and and that's fans. I'm I'm a Knicks fan because I'm always a Knicks fan. That's just in my heart. But I was done when John Starts went after he dunked the Michael Joe in the game before it's ruined it. But I'm going to Golden State for like the last ten years. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When the music come into mix for y'all, and it always for me, music always better in the mix since I'm a hip hop baby, since my mom was teaching me how to break dance in the living room in the Bronx. But when it turned into business for me, is um do you well? A few years from my grandma pass Cam and Bloodshed Derek, God blessed. They always just wrapping and things like that. They always into it heavy. Then they started doing freestyles and they started becoming very noted, very dope and hallm and things like that. Um, my grandma passed, Cam and Mace went to school. Um, they both end up getting kicked out and had to come back and live with me because they didn't want to tell parents they got kicked out of school. Um, those few months of them living with me, they got into the heavy into music. Mace end up being the breakout artists, end up getting to deal with what did he coming back? And Snatch Cam got Cam to deal through Biggie And once Cam came back home, it was lit since then and we had an ups and downs through the music, but overall here we are right now when when you when when they hit? What year was that? It was like nineties, we graduated, ninety four, they went to school, came back at the end of ninety five, started going crazy and ninety six. I think May signed in ninety six and Cam signed in ninety seven. That's crazy. You don't really have three childhood friends like that that all blow up like that's crazy. That's I've been. I've been. I've been a die hard hip hop fan since since whatever. But I never ever had an aspiration to be a rapper. Never never thought about, never had a dream, never had any inkland, never nothing. I never wrote raps and nothing. I was. I was in street very early in my life, right, and you know, I wind up doing a long time. And during that time, I was in prison. You know, I was a young kid, so a seventeen seven, so I was, I was. I was getting into a lot of trouble in prison though, right, So I was always in the box. I was like, you know, problematic, and you know, you know the people that put you in the box for years, right said it's the s h U especially House and Unity put you in there and shoot you down for for a year or two years, so I was in those I spent almost four years you all together like that most and most people lose their minds right right right, but those see See that's the thing about about about having will strong will because under the under those conditions is when I became a stronger person. Under those conditions is when I even started rapping. So I started rapping because he was like, just pass the time, like, man, Dan, you know it's fun to do. So I'll get up, I'll be in my cell right I would. I would write, I write a round. It take me. Then then the whole day before I know what, the whole day is gone, and it started to feel good to do it. And then I would play with the idea like going home to do it, like, man, maybe I'll go out and do this, and they're like, I ain't a fucking rapper. So it's just as much as I was a fan, I had never thought about music in a business aspect, and who I started to say, uh, maybe I should try when I got home. Because one of the create one of the scariest thoughts why by being in prison, is not knowing what you're gonna do when you get out. So I never I never, I was I'm from the street. That's it. I was nothing else. Everything I've ever done it was in the I've never been productive and nowhere else. I've been two places in my whole life. Prison in the street, that's it. And when I got out of prison, I went back to the street. So music was a way out for me. So when I caught the ball, it was it was everything for me. This is why I'm smiling right now. To down save me saved us in the fact that the direction we was heading in was not a good direction from a young age, and the fact that we got a chance to do the deal so young, like we were all eighteen nineteen something like that. It saved this from a lot of things that we were heading into. Even though we still went in the wrong direction, we had some balance because we knew we were in a different position. But for the music and to start for me and to later on in the two thousand's after camping them to figure it out. But Cam and Mace always told Mace told me how to wrap, and Cam always made sure I was on every single album he had. He was like, boy, once you figure out how to wrap, the same way you acting the streets is gonna work for me, keep going, and that's all. So I always got to give credits with credits to doing ship like that would be no Jim Jones if it wasn't for them guys and ship like that and end up catching on because they started me. I was doing everything directing security engineering, but they was coming in every night off that show Money. I was like, no, I gotta figure this out. This is what I gotta really get into this rap mode. And that's what really propelled to seeing all the successor was the first joint you did? Were you Like? It was on cam first tape, right, first album? I mean my mom's and remember that, remember that, remember that like yesterday his first his first album. One of my favorite ships was Certified Gangster. You did with gang was all a great experience. That was a good time in my life. I was I was the first person to bring games to actually in New York. This is when me and Game really really really really tight. Word like that was my guy and she's still my guy to this day. But at that time we were moving and one of core bring him to New York. Shouts to for bed all p was best friend at the time. I would go to I will go to l A and ride through all bumped in shots. The term on no term. Yeah, Term had his own segment. He came on the show with Bed because I think've been shouted out probably he has a great bridge from especially on the West Coast, things like that, and he got a real hard you know what I means, family and things like that. But it shots the game shots of certified answers. That was. That's what really started it off for me and ship like that. Just being a fan. I was really a fan of West Coast music and West Coast movies, you know at that time Menister Society boys and gave us a whole different look on what life was from a whole another and it really turned and Snoop and Pocket and all of that West It just started. So I always a fan in end up getting that beat from Bang Shots to Bang Chicago. I was like, Wow, this is my speed. I gotta do this easy joining over and she's like that to the night that studio that night what can was there? Can was in there end up doing the last verse that man, That's how I got camera. We asked all NBA people like what was your welcome to the NBA mom when you feel like you're welcome to the music moment, Like damn, motherfucker's really know my name now, not through the streets because of this music though. For me, it was a song called Rumors, so it comes when I get out. I was was in a mixtape, mixtape game that the DVD game, right, so you know back this is back with the Smack DVDs was everything that That was my introduction into the game. And then I did a song called Rumas No not that one name you talk. You came after that. You came after that. Get the record straight. You know you came after you definitely came after that, right you got yeah, you came after that. Um so so uh that was my my my in issue, Like damn, they just know my name outside of the street, like the music business is talking about me. And I actually my first record deal off that song. But she was I signed to, uh Universal Motown. This was two thousand and five. I thought she was only signed to I originally got signed because when I did the song room was he said, she said, right, I heard shook Smack game. My c say shook smack game. I was I was talking about yeah, and I was talking about man ship and then I got a record deal off that and I thought it was on. This was like I had just came home maybe eighteen nineteen months before that, so it was like it was it was a little change. It was wearing the black tank tops, definitely black tank top, black tank top, heavy black tank toop. Ever right, I took them off though the V next had a call run though last year I got a picture of my nigga. He was not you. I told you, man, I told you it was last year. I gotta pitch in. I got to pitch in. Let them died up in like twelve or thirteen. The next I thought they did V next. Yeah, I didn't know. One day and to my son, I was like, yo, what you're doing because I called him with the V neck that went there that was never was never stopped. That is it was that that was a fact. You know, you know, I just to wear that. Like dudes that like funny, different like different style dudes that went to clubs. You would see him they had that. I'm like, whoa, this nipples out that's crazy. That was showing his navel. That was bad. That's a super V. Who are some of the O g s in the music space to kind of help y'all along the process. You mentioned Cam obviously any others. Kim was my brother. We grew up together, and that was the thing. We didn't have nobody above us to help us. We learned unless is about trial stakes by running into wall trial and era um and got a grace of God. He know, he kept he kept his whole and we figured it out. But for the most part, I would say Dane Dan came in later on and helped Cam a lot, and through him helping came a lot and help all of us with a dipper mass when that whole Rocket Feller transition came doing things like that, So that was like the closest thing that we would had to somebody coming in and really giving us some understanding of what we had. But for the most part, it was just all us. We were pretty smart and we knew what we wanted and we knew how we wanted to be perceived and things like that, and that's how we ran. We gotta in the building. We did everything ourselves. They'll tell you we hadn't Rocket Fellow. We had our own offices, went the else to just jumped on tables, and market the meetings, let them know how diplomats wanted to be seen. Like I was getting uh money for what they call that Uh yeah, I was getting consulting money from Depth Share and like ten grand a month just because of how creative we was and that the space and you know how the streets was connecting to the music very heavy back then, and we had the streets hand dancer Kim Kim for me, little Kim for me. So when I when I, when I came out, she embraced me. She open up, open up her house, open up her doors, opened up a platform for me to come around, for me to to to have a peek into the industry. I'm standing next to a to a superstar, right, you know, I got to meet people, you know, so I'm I'm I'm always being debted to that because that was that was my first peek into the game on a on a superstar level. That was that was a heavy look. That was when that that wasn't heavy. It was looking for me. She just came, she just came back home to it was right. It was. It was before she went in and after so before she I was dead. So I was going to the court room you know when she had to trial whatever. But for me it was big because I had just got back. You know, people was starting to know me from the mixtapes and from the DVDs. But now I'm standing next to Kim, So it was it was a big moment for me. You know, I started to meet different people, Swiss and everybody. So that's that was my Uh, that was that was my because you know, Brooklyn got that whole mistake. So when definitely when you when people started associating you with the whole Kim ship, from my was like, oh boys going in deep there heavy on the Brooklyn side, hierarchy, the Boks, the top. Yeah, was dam in the streets. Did you know Damn was younger? Yeah, I know Dave for all my life. I knew Dame since I was six years six years old work. Yeah, so we grew up the same buildings. Um, I knew Dame actually before kr Cam moved in that building when we was like thirteen, Can moved over to eleven ninety nine. Dam was always differently. Um he went to private school, some fancy private school that he hustled and helped put himself through and ship like that. Um, he lost his moms at a young age. So I watched Dame navigate through the streets by myself on East side kid where we was at eleven nine, and considered us to be privilege because those were the newest co ops in Harlem and things like that, and there was the high rises and things like that, so it was just a little different on So they watched him navigate from the east side and go to the west side. West side was like okay corral back then, that was like you had to it was like showtime over there. So if you niggas that came back from the west side to the east side and was Dame lived in our building, so he was bringing back all our West Side flavor. All he had cars since he was fifteen and ship like that. So Dan was outside and ship like that. I mean, so for the east Side he was he was looking like that and be all like this nigga gotta be a droug champion. But on the west side he just was a mainly regularly the hustling out there you did because that was the West Side. That's where everybody did this ship like for us coming him coming back and forth. It was definitely definitely dopes I taken away from him. He had us and all when we was younger and shipped like that and going all the way up to the days when you would see uh J pull up, when they had the lexuses and all that ship and they was getting money back. Then I could say that they really was doing whatever. I can't say what I mean. Legend has it. I was outside and watching what was going on. Legend had it they was really into what they was into and watching cam and my man Duke uh definitely making them UH runs across the bridge to the address that they be talking about and that I was. I was, and then I wasn't. In the midst, I was, but I was on the West side at that time, were going back and forth and ship like that, and you know, shouts to damn. He was a very He was a very instrumental person in our life coming up on the East Side before music then he he was always damed into what he mopeds. I give I give it to him. You did coming through Hustler, big stacks and ship like that like you. So let's get to the Lobby Boys album. How did this come from? How did this come together? We talked about doing this years ago. Years ago. This was something that we've been talking about doing. Um back when uh Puff and In and Ross used to say that they was the Buggatti Boys right when they used to call them none of that. When the used to call themselves the Buggatti Boys. I thought that that was gonna be an album or something. But you know, we did a song back then and in Capital said, uh, shout out to the Buggatti Boys, but me and may know we the Lobby Boys. And when he said that, I instantly understood what he was meaning, like where we come from. You know. So we talked about actually doing a tape or album him back then. But you know, sometimes you know, it's all about time, that's all about time, and and it wasn't the right timing and and and now is the greatest time, and it's no better time than that. It's no better time than now. We captured I feel we captured the moment. Yeah. Yeah, So tell us a little bit about the album we y'all got on the album we got fab on there, Benny the Butcher, young Man, Blue Young Blue Styles, p five year Davis, New York for sure. Yeah, definitely actually have you on New York. You got that little that little workout gym group. Don't you what how did that come about? That ship is dope. I started us talking ship inside of the mains restaurant, um Chelsea House. We just uh, it's like like New Year day after New Year. It was it was the day or was it before New Year? One of the fab had this he had Fab had a um this diet plan and said, yeah, we should start this diet plan the new year. So we said let's do it, and we said we might as will work out. Once we started, we never we never stopped. You know when it's it's it's different because for me, I always worked out probably on and off my whole life. But I will always do some time and then stop and do a little bit more. But now I'm I'm way more consistent because now I got people to work out with. So when we go on our group chat and I see that Fab is going in the gym, I'm gonna jump up and so I'm gonna meet you over there, you know what I mean, And we all we all end up in the gym together. So it just makes it makes it fun um and it makes working out easier, you know what I mean. It was a big initiative, Like we are just acquired some property that they're all gonna put some money in so we can finish building out the gym, which give us a piece of real estate for people to actually come visit your own gym. Yeah, we already have it and stuff like that. This UM so now we're gonna gonna put all the equipment and make it look all nice and dope and you know, people come by. But it's deeper. We're gonna do n F team membership. So we got these boot camp courses that we're gonna start. UM that's not like your regular boot camp. The ideas to make you feel like you actually came to the cup of the party instead of working out, but you're gonna be working out. So you're gonna have some of the dopest DJs inside of look inside of the gym, you might catch some performances with some of your dopest rappers you did like. So it was a whole initiative that we have that we're gonna bring forth to the table that mixes the actual culture with fitness. Because I don't know how people know how much money it is inside this fitness world. I do know you'll know because you're are athletes. But for the average rapper, a musician or artists like myself, I don't think they understand that that's a multibillion dollarge industry that is anonymous with music. Every one of the athletes is in the music while they're training and all that. So it's I mean, but it's also health and wellness, and there's something we don't talk each working out. I mean, we don't necessarily talk about enough if you're not an athlete itself, So it's it's important from that stands, I'm not into the dead body ship run around. I can't do it. Like what, I don't know what the funk that is? Bro like that, like, boy, you look crazy, Nick looks stupid, big stomach hanging out something chains on too much, the dead buddy, I don't care. Like like it's like balance. You know what I'm saying. You're seeing dudes having heart attacks at thirty two and like like that's not Listen. I'm not saying you got to be in the gym every single day, but balance it out right, because we we st stay active because that's what you don't use, you lose, right, So it's you know, we live in a lifestyle where we are uplaced and you don't want to be drinking and not eating it as well, right, but balance it out because we're trying to be here as long as we can. One turn, favorite collapsed to date for each of you, lobby boys, period period, period, the greatest, the biggest, the greatest. That that that like for the city, um and and hands down they're saying it's a classics nothing better right now, um slides the song of the Summer, And I feel good to to to be in a situation because I feel like what we're doing it's never been done before. You've never had a situation where artists been in the game, and and and at this point, this late because the game says that you don't supposed to get better. The game says you ain't gonna have a hit when you after you've been in the game ten years. This is, this is, this is, this is we're writing our own, our own narrative right now, right fun what they said before, right, you can't do this because you can't. You've been you've been in the game, and nobody funk all this because the only requirement is that the music be dope and fly the best rapper slash basketball player for me, rapper slash basketball player current or this period period period that you're seeing an action that you're seen on the GRAM. You did because you've been you you've been to a game I hat you did, scored thirty thirty five something like that against two changes. And then they want what was talking about niggers. You've seen the action really dog and like playing it in real, real action. Now, okay, we're talking about seeing an action only seen three You had the best showing. You definitely had the best showing. But he's not it. I don't consider Chris Brown a wrapper. He's a ball player that mother. He could have wanted the NBA. But he's different. Remember Ship, don't get busy. He can hoop bro, Yeah, he get busy. Chris brownkle who he reminded me of Cam when he was younger, Like he's getting I heard that about Camera. He Cam was nice cams, a beast cams in the niggas that could have won to the NBA playing in ruckors since he was fourteen. Cam to all American scraping niggers, taking championships and all the tournaments and going ahead and head against Marlbury since they've been fifteen, like real wars against Smallbury, like nasty wars like you can Sham ask You asked Sham guard you heard Sham and tell you that they come from the same hood. Cam was bullying Sham everybody like you did. Like in that day you did like and he clips loose clips everything his ship is. You did and you asked anybody you can look at him and tell you canda hoop a little bit. Kenny Day. When I first met Davis is my man bully little brother. So when he used to come to the studio, he was in Baltimore playing basketball in college. K D and all the ship. They used to be talking about KD before KD even got Did they have a basketball ir Q humans just who, ir Q Healing just who he can think the game to day? Actually they definitely Yeah, Yeah, they playing college together. And the next year he came back like I need a record, Like but you you need a record? Broke like y'all, I didn't even play ball no more, trying to go to the wrap and ship like that, and that's how that they are. Yeah, what's your thoughts on hip hop today? I love it. I love it. I love the opportunity aspects of it. What I'm saying, I love the opportunity to gets that some of the stuff that that happens, meaning as far as like, oh, it's not not not having the foresight to take advantage of the opportunity, meaning like to miscounter it is counter productive, right. This is to get in the game after you'ven't been through all of the ship that you've been through the streets saying and then and then end up in prison, try to try to end end up dead get money in turn gangster, right, you know what I'm saying this, This is this, this happens all to all happening inside. But I'm not I'm not gonna I'm not gonna lie. We was always into a lot of mischief. You did a lot of mischief. The money this gave me an opportunity to get if I didn't have people to really put me aside sometimes and save me from some of the directions. I was going like, this game is there's a lot of smoking mirrors and ship like that, and once they get this money propels you to feel like you need to be ten times of who yours already was. And ship like that so if you was in a position of who I would turn me into an absolute monster and ship like that, and it shouldn't be. But on the flip side of this, I want people to know that this is a business. So when you ask do I love all parts of it? Yes, I do love all parts of it because it's all about how you approach the game. And I tell people all the time, you get what you negotiate, now what you deserve. So if you approach this game with a with a clear mind, thinking and knowing what you want, you're gonna get everything that's gonna come to you. But if you don't understand their business comes before the the artistry. I mean, wait, let's get that back business artistry. You need to typicine artistry to get that ninety percent business. But once you get into that business mode, the the artistry becomes minute to what you have on hand with the ancillary money you can make from this game, and that's what it's all about. So I'm completely happy with everything that I've got, the ups and downs and where I'm at today because do it all. It helped me put food on my table and my family never had to worry about anything, and I live a hell of a lifestyle. You didn't let it play you out the street though. I mean, that's a tricky situation. I mean I was, I come from a certain I come from a certain thing. So when when people, even yesterday when I was at the basketball game, get certain calls like to ask me why I'm still in the like, I don't. I think people think I'm out here trying to prove a point of I'm some type of time. I'm not. You dig in my neighborhood. Inspiration to anybody comes about, Like I told somebody, the respect that I gotta respect that I earned. It's not given where I'm from, you digging, I respect each of them the same way to respect me. That's why the lover is did. That's why we can go and have basketball games with no violence in Mohore. That's why we can go and runt out the whole restaurant, let the whole hood eating things like that. It's not saying this is something that we do every day, but where we come from the people need that inspiration. That's why we call ourselves the lobby Boys because we come from that. So if people can't see where we come from and see the better side of the ship. Then what type of example are we setting? You heard, like, should I left this five star restaurants too? Just like everybody else, But there's no better gratification than me being going the hood and helping feeding people for a day and things like that, like it mean more, way more you heard if he way more better than all these restaurants we've been to. And I'm still able to do that you did. I don't go to the hood to throw without gotten people. That's not People tell you that's that's never been exactly you did. And I don't think people understand that. And I know there's always pinpoint the tragedy that go on, but tragedies go on everywhere, Like you can't when God calls you, you know you could do. He's even gonna call you a call upon you just be ready for even short as you heard, no matter who you are, you know what I mean. You guys both had a lot of love and respect for Tupac, and obviously Big was from out this way. You guys got any stories with either one and interacting with either one of them, my both I've never I've never met Big and I never never met Tupac. But I've seen both of them on the Hunt twenty fishtreet. You heard see Biggie twenty Fishty jumping up the land cruiser with little seeds. I level forget that day Seas had on the Black Lown construction boasts. Now you gotta remember, this is like this is you heard ninety four ninety like it's like ninety six, like this is that? So this was like the most mind blowing thing for me ever. Now, when Tupac was doing above the rim, me and my man James walking Dale to five uh eighth and seven on the obviously side of Apollo, we're going back to the to the block towards the east side and nigger hanging out the MTV my man James Tappy like Dick or your man right there because they knew how much I love But I almost fainite hang out there. Almost died that day, bro, like because he was in Hall. That's but he used to be home, so we used to be looking for this nigga. He'd be over at eight K because he did the whole movie. Wasn't home. So he ended up finding the hood that he really funk with. That niggas loved him, and that was over there eight case, and we used to run around home all day trying to find Tupac when he was filming the movie. And that was it tough when y'all obviously fans, was it tough when there was the east coast west coast tension? For y'all? Was that? That was how excitement to see that you did like it was because it was for the music. So we were just waiting for the response like, oh, Biggy just bomb. Then Tupac came like this ship. But then when niggas got killed at termed ship way differently. It just was music. That's fact. When you had scary at that point for a response, the response might be too three months later, the Lord is what you wanted to read ship in the magazine. It wasn't. You couldn't go online and pull some ship up like you had to read whenever that issue came out. That might have been a two month and it was that was what we was used to. It was tupacking. It was like there's a lot of different true true and ship like that. So the responses and everything was something that we was already you know what I mean. It was more exciting because it wasn't oversaturated right now. It's just like you say something, now, somebody got a response two hours later and they want to up at Andy Senter Addie and it's lit and we got quick hitters. Now. The first thing to come to your mind share five dinner guests that are alive? Five what dinner guests that are alive? Richard to be at the dinner? Tupop um? Who was? Who else? I at my dinner? Um ship? I don't know. I got a short list. Oh I want uh what's um red fox? M um, yeah, give me some um last my mother, my father, um uh definitely big, definitely pop um nick h Kobe. That's a nice table. Yeah, that's that's tin. That's that. We're drinking, eating, smoking, laughing. You're not smoking, you're just catching the content you smoke. It's my own smoke with him. I'm just yeah, I'm my association. Top five n y C m C s of all time. That's a hard one, bro. You can't do that to me. It's hard like when people ask me that because I used to bust my brain about what the top five? But bro, these artists are so instrumental to me in my life. Is really like not nothing I would say, definitely hold at the top of the list. Right he's he's at the top of the totem pole. Um hove um nas. I want I want to throw on Fat Joe because Fat Show is like a person that I really really really admire, right because family, Right, definitely the reason why I really admired Fat Jo, because it's something about him that he never dies and I I mean inspired by that that he's lasted errors he's been around longer than anybody, and he is still just as just as potent, just as popular, just as relevant, as as as as he was in the nineties. That right there. So he's definitely my top five. I did I say three uh nash Joe Joe nas um she's see what I got? Let me see I go uh tupacket of course. No, it's New York, just New York, New York. Of course he's from New York. No, no, no, no, no, he was born in New York. We can't give him New York. Were claiming him to be a New Yorker. He didn't rep New York. He was born here. We understand that. I'm not gonna right, all right, all right, you don't identify with being in New York. Now I'm gonna go rock, I'm gonna go rock. Call Um I would I would say slick Rick, but boy slick Rick got locked up and cut his legs off, like damn my whole slick like it was like my whole slick Rick thing was like damn but slick Oh man, Um rock Kim slick Rick, Cam and Je Welles is off top hove Nas. It was a time where Nas Nas Nas was the end all be all for me, from when he did the Barbecue Ship to his first album and that whole little run right there, like Nas was flying helly Hansen's Uh armies has far he has to fold it up and all I took a lot of I took a lot of drip from Naje paid nas page coming up in high school. Um who else in New York? Uh that Biggie of course man like, but once again Biggie was one of them that we didn't get to see his full potential and so so so upset with that, um who else from New York. Let me let me be clear. Did I say big Daddy came? You said rock him? Yeah, but you gotta go Big Daddy came even though that See it's tricky. Oh I'm bugging caress One, I say, Carrol, h let me explain the instruct you to a game. See, I'm not the same. In fact, I'm kind of rashing asking you. It was more dramatical this one, that one, the white one, of the black one pick puking. I jumped up to attack one. Carress One is just the guy to lead the crew right up to your face and this shoe. So we if we if we go back like that, then it's it's it's something. Then I got like an unsung hero that I don't hear his name no more. But he was definitely influence you in New York hip hop. It was the time. It's definitely influencing in Queens the hip hop. That's Cougi Rat cool g was. That's why I brought my maserati. We like to eat hardy party. I think Coolgi Rat kind of is not getting that that that that he don't like he's written out of He was really the real ones. No, but it was a time when he was he was ball right as far as you know young rappers, he was the ball because he was talking that talk. He was working with skarface like it was. He was working with people. What was it? Quick and quick and im in l a. Who was the ball he was coming? I was flu influence, he had the little list. He was the guy like you know, like I don't think about real stre like niggas was hearing that, Yeah, getting dick on the curtain. Man, he was talking crazy And I don't think his name comes up enough in these in these topics facts. That was a good one. What's the realest thing that happened you'll recently? Who the funniest thing that happened to you recently? The funniest thing that happened to us recently? Ship funnies, It happens all the time. You want to tell him about buill board, I'll build board ship so once so so we dropped the first song, right, Um, it's called a Lot of the Boys anthem. So this is this everybody we've we've been teasing this project like almost a year and everybody has been like you know, talking about all right, man on, Jim, Jim and man about to drop this thing. So we come and we we dropped a lobby boys anthem. We got all black leather on. We're looking like you know what I'm saying. Puff and Black Rob back in the nineties, like you gotta fire the pyro going up, We got we go, we go off. So then a person from my camp shout out to my my god, noneber love for him. He's like, yo, listen, I got you out the billboard. So I'm like for the second Street, I'm Tom Square. We got the billboard, Like, yeah, you got the billboard, you gotta I want you to come down and at nine o'clock shop, and you know we we the billboards is gonna get revealed. You can take pictures videos. I'm like, oh man, it's emotional for me. Like I'm like, damn, my mom is just pasted. She would have loved this. I'm like, it's it's like, damn, this this is happening. Man. We get down there were still there were still It's like, hold on, I'm not yo, bro, what happened? What's going on? He like, it's gonna happen right now. Five more minutes, five more minutes. It kept being five more minutes, and I was getting mad at every time I turned around here on the phone and I can't hear what he's saying. He's like We're in the middle of town, middle time mothers that still boards up on people coming over and taking pictures with us. We just standing out there like this, what the fuck is happening right now? Like? And he over there on the phone like, I'm like, yo, bro, what's going on here? Like not five more minutes is about to happen, It's gonna be uh ninety eight. So we're still waiting for five more minutes for I shouldn't come up. We're still waiting like you never said what happened? It was some type of a glitch or something. And he put me on the phone with the dude that was running it. They got it right because it was stuff like that. Definitely. Yeah, if you can remember by one bar lyric that you spit, what would it be? Um man? If the lobby boys are my life is up and down? My life is up. I said, uh, take a look at my eyes. See the places I had to crime at. Life is up and down. I was down, had to climb back and had That mean a lot to me, you know what I'm saying, because you know you you measured man by what not how many times he been down? That's right, That's right. That's right. Um, God bless my own vote is fast. She like one of the most influential people in my life, so I had to I started a record that has my own I said, it's a bit of Christ and all of us. She also said it's a time that's gonna come to Christ, gonna call on us. I saw I started off in the record school. Actually on had did that before she passed, like last year off Mom Harry Freud Harry Freud album. So you know that's one of the lyrics the always stick out. And you said your mom just passed in January? Is already hear that? All right? Last question, if y'all can have a guest on our show, who would it be? But but before you answer that question, you have to help us get your answer on our show. What you mean you don't know? If I confused? High both probably what would you like to see on our show? First of all, but trump, hold hold, hold hold on. Before you answer, whoever your answer is, you gotta help us get them over here. So I gotta be somebody, you know, gotta be somebody we know, somebody you can put a call into come funk with your boys that we ain't had because we damnly had everybody. Mm hm oh, I was um, I thought you were sold like a basketball plus No not hen did you did you have hey, y'all? Yeah, Davis up here. Yeah, I talked to him. I talked to him that. I talked to hiout the fight, so I need his line. If you got his line, they would be dope. Now. I wasn't. I was serious about the Tiana Trump thing though. Yeah, you got all the question platforms. We're talking about basketball. You got some for y'all. Boy. Yeah, yeah, remember and if anybody out there watching the end of that, all the smoke that store, that store, man, that's the rap Jim Jones may know. Boys, I got a lobby boys out now streaming be me. Just don't smoke it. You heard me, man. We appreciate youall. Man. We kept having us catch her Showtime Basketball YouTube and the heart platform Black Effects. We'll see you all next week, Jones