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ALL THE SMOKE ALL-DECADE TEAM!

Published Dec 26, 2019, 6:11 PM

2010'S...THAT'S A WRAP! We were so excited to get All The Smoke off the ground and thank you to everyone for listening, subscribing and loving our show! What an amazing decade of basketball and it was a challenge, but we were able to select OUR ALL-DECADE TEAM! Enjoy and we will see you in 2020 with some great guests! 

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Welcome back all the smoke, Episode ten. Yes, finishing out the new year. Man, we're about to get into the decade of two thousand ten to two thousand twenties and how wild and transcending it was for the game of basketball where we were in the mix of all this and we're gonna sit back and have fun and remin that's a little bit. I'm cool, you're ready to do that. Good to see you. Man' been on a little buddy down. Yeah you mean it's because code out here took my jacket. This most take your hat out real quick. Oh you ain't got just like when you ain't got no hang it's coming. You know, you look like one of the badass little kids. Like you're a little badass little kids. But it's taking me back to it's taking me. You know, last time I had my hair like this, I was going to in the stands. Be careful? Do you care for alright? Man? So let's jump right into this two thousand and ten Man, I was third. It's crazy though, cause we go decade by decade, Like I was born in nineteen eighty, so every decade I'm I'm jumping into a whole new you know, set a number, so I'm pulling up on forty one, forty two. Yeah. So the two thousand ten season, where were you at ten? I was who knows, Charlotte maybe, Yeah, that's right. I left the Orlando going to the Lakers and we beat you guys in the in the playoffs that year. So this is where you know we start. We pick up with Lebron. This is Lebron losing to the Celtics two out of three years and in the tunnel takes off his jersey. You knew it was over. I think everyone thought something was going on as a fresh Dade where you been playing basketball all day, you can't win the game and you're playing good with your team, So are you just god quit? I just had enough that takes us to the decision. I love the fact that Lebron pretty much changed the landscape of basketball from a standpoint of a player finally being empowered to do what he wants to do. So often we know it's a business, so when teams cut us, trade us, wave us, don't play us, funk us somehow because with the business. But when players start taking control of their narrative and and doing what it's best for them, in their brand and their family. They're the bad gut of the villain. I think the only to me, the only place he made a mistake was drawn that long as sitting down. It just I'm gone, you know, or just to me, he could have tightened it up. It should have been a spectacle. It could it could have just been more of like, hey, you know, I decided to, you know, make this new move to Miami. You know what I mean. I agree with you on that too. But like for what he's done for so many players, like I just love the fact that he did it his way. Like I'm not mad at it. I'm at it if I was in braun shoes and that I could imagine robe out showed a rose raw security. Oh, it's like, man, chill out, men. You know what I said, I've been doing a little thing walking down for thirty chains on Like then listens, I know y'all want to know what I'm doing. You know, out of did I did that times? Tim? Like I said, I'm not mad. I just think to me it could have just it rubbed some people the wrong way. But I think the moment overall was amazing for athletes and when they let me know something about Lebron. He don't give a funk with nobody think Bro, That's why I love it. You don't give a funk. I'm gonna do it my way. I know. I could go out there and who everybody asked, and hey, y'all can love it and leave it. You got to take it. And when everybody was watching, I mean even me, I'm sitting there watching where are you going? Where he going? He had the whole world watching. Bro. That was super bad. I'm not mad. Boys and Girls Club or something like that. It ended up ended up being away. He was giving back at the same time. You know what I'm saying, what people didn't know. He always make it work. But anyway, so this is the beginning of super teams. This is a swing and the historical build through the draft and and hopefully get some good trades to build your team. This is superstars leaving their respective teams and building a team. Um. It was. It was scary though, because when when when Braun first went to Miami, everybody was like, oh my god, they've been dominated and they lose the first year. You know what I'm saying to me, like what it is just big three ships even gonna work, you know what I'm saying. But time right, Like we always talk about chemistry, and like I said, could always look good on paper, but you got to get that chemistry down. I think they learned from that. That was the year I was with the Lakers. I tore my knee going into the playoffs. We were going for a three pet Dallas beat the dog shit out of us, swept us, Jason Terry here like ten threes in one game, and then they ended up beating ya, Lebron and them and uh in the finals Dirk only Chip, Yeah, that's the one die. Ye. Those were good times. I wasn't in the two thousand times that. We'll get to that another time. Um. It's also kind of the be getting of of of social activism to speak to, you know, coming up in the years ahead of that, that's when Uh, I think Lebron in the whole Miami Heat team had the trade on Martin hoodies on and the Eric Gardner I can't breathe. I think it was the following year, so I think that was kind of the first time him opening those doors, like I said, for the rest of us. I think with his move to Miami, he opened up for players to kind of take control, and then with his lead, he kind of opened up our platform to kind of speak more on social events, not just sports, and things that we really feel that are near and dear. Time that one was the last time the face of the NBA did that. I led that, the face of sports led it. That's what I'm saying. When when was the last? Definitely was so big superstar I think we've ever had, and in any sport. I think it's come because he really comes from it, right. It ain't too many superstars that actually come from the mud don't really come from it, you know what I'm saying. And I think he sees things different. I wish people would just kind of understand, even though not just Lebron, but you know great players. I think we get so caught up in we're in the social media world, so you you're riding for your team or you want to just hate on guys instead of sitting back and realize, like you're witnessing history with some of these guys. But k D with Staff, for Lebron, with Kobe, and then it's crazy you see more slammer than you just not that they need praise or look for praise, but just you see more hate than you see love, not really realizing and in a moment of time when we look back on it's for fifty sixty seven years old, like we witness some of the greatest players ever to play this game. I'll think about it a lot because not not have ten times when somebody asked me about basketball, they're asking me about Tim Duncan. Said yeah, I said, I said, you're not out at ten times. Not out at ten times when people ask me about basketball, they asked me about Tim Duncan. Siries, I'll tell you about it later. Yeah, but Tim Duncan is you know people ask me about Tim Duncan like this is the best power for them all time in my mind. You know it might not be to everybody, but to be able to play with him and him to embrace me, to see him on let's get a quadruple double all the way through the playoffs into the finals, like that stuff with Special Man, and even to come in to see for to play against Jay Kid at that time in the finals, like wow, like he was unbelievable. Bro. I think we just get it. We get a different perspective objects because we're out there doing it. But I mean we see the greatest and understand how hard it is to do what they're doing. But I think from the outside looking in, we just live in the day and time where it's it's it's almost weak to show love, or to show respect, or or to pray someone. It's just a lot easier people think to just hate on people. It's so it's so much easy. And that's the gift in the curse from social media. You know, it's a lot of players such as ourselves to who were labeled one way in the game to show the world we are. You know, we both were just talking about this off camera. That definitely that we've been able to grow a brand that's going to be much bigger than our basketball brand, you know, post career, and that's because of social media and the way we could really kind of we're both labeled this thugs, gang bangers, bad this, bad that. But the one thing we both always had in common with our teammates loved us, you know. I mean, so it was just a misconception and what the world thought I thought we were, you know back in the day when we you know, coming into this this decade, there wasn't really social media, you know what I mean. Like Twitter had just kind of started going in their own and we didn't really have much of a voice, you know what I mean. So if the media painted us one way, that's what we were, you know what I mean. And I think that the emergence of social media has given us outlets and giving us all platforms, but also growing the game tremendously to make it what it is today and for guys to make the money it is today. I think a lot has to do with social media and guys growing their brands. It's a gifting the curse though definitely. You know. It was one of the high school kid his name is Dio on Instagram, and he was talking about how some of these blogs be making certain players look good and blowing them up, and then when they step up to him like they really ain't that good. He said, you don't. He don't even want to be on you want to you don't want to be a part of that, you know what I'm saying. He wanted he want to stay real, And a lot of kids these days were like in the NBA, the get caught up in the social media world. It ain't real what they and and and and they feel like they sudden they're not you know what'cause they reallyn't even have to earn a spot no more. I've heard this from me, and they player like, God, young guys don't even show up early no more. A lot of this stuff has changed, and it's because of social media. They got them feeling themselves, Oh my goodness, super confident and a million followers is over touch back onto. It was a big thing, like I said, kind of piggybacking on the off the social media platform. When Lebron Wade CPM mellow uh spoke up at the piece, you know, just kind of speaking on all the violence and and and the killings in the in the senseless acts that we continue to watch day by day, and I think that was huge. Like I said, having kids, we know that it just kind of resonates when athletes said, you know so before sure, but then there's no question then for But I just think, you know, when we start using our voice, our voices heard around the world, you know, and that's the kind of attention I think we need you to continue to bring to the bullshit that was happening in the streets with the unjust killings and just where we were as a society. So, like I said, you continue to thank these guys for using their platform and opening up these doors. We could jump into a situation too, but both of us kind of went through. Donald Sterling. You mean, this is to the two thousand thirteen, two thousand and fourteen season. You know, I was with were obviously the Clippers. We felt like, you know, we had created a new vibe over there and we really had a chance to win the championship. So you know, if you if you keep in mind, we were the last team to kind of beat the Warriors before they had their dynasty run, you know, so we felt like we had some special we kept, you know, getting each other's way. That's another time. But something that happened during the playoffs that year was the tapes dropped it Downald Sterling, and you were on our team for a little bit that right before that happened. But you know, you took it one crazy way, and we talked about it off camera that I even know how you felt, because we hadn't really talked about it because you've already gone by the time you hit and then we took it one way. But tell me how you took it like I was already at the end of my career, you know what I mean? And I think need be. So you was on some n w A ship I was. I was on my black Panther ship anyway. But being cut cut before that happened, it was a blessing in disguise. Oh my goodness, because I would have I was just left the team. I wouldn't showed up. I wouldn't show up to the more games I would have been. I would have been outside of the fans, burning the jerseys. Oh all that too, burning trees, for sure. But I have been burning all the joys I've been. I've been protesting too, but I've been I've just heard as the fans. You made a song with face though, didn't you. I made a song called America the Beautiful about the whole situation. How I felt, you know, I felt. I was like, is it a quarter as a cotton field? And that's that's how he made it look about, you know, And it was it was just upsetting to me, knowing how much we played the game, you know, how much we love the game. To know that somebody that you know that that's benefiting off what we love to do feels like that about it, you know what I mean, real quick product. But where can they find that song? America the Beautiful. You can find that on iTunes and you can find it YouTube. We need to set a statement, scar face, scarface plug your ship and begging to get them download and trying to get you them download. We took it different, you know what I mean. And I think you know, the ship hit like out the blue. We're in Golden State right before game four, you know, and and then Lincoln we found on social media, and my reaction I think was different from other people's reaction. But like I touched on on on that shown episode last time we're here, I faced real racism, you know what I mean, Like Mannekins died nigger swasticks all over my school. Like I faced real racism. So they here old A's rich white man say speak to to the black culture that way. It didn't really trip me out because, like I said, like you just touched on, He's definitely not the only one that thought that when he was the only one dumb enough to get to get caught by a snake of a a snake, a rat neck ass goat mouth as woman who was dealing. Yeah, man, you know what I means. So to me, it didn't really trip me out. So like we as we kind of start, you know, kind of start spreading, like well if are texting each other, like yo, this ship just really happened. He just said that ship and so we you know, next next day we come in and Doc handled it beautifully. I think this is the first thing for the new commissioner, the first thing on the new Commissioner's plate, and then this is our first year with Doc, and Doc was the shield for our team, doctors just like, hey, you know, first he thought, he asked what we thought, and when everyone kind of expressed our opinion, he said, whatever you do, kind of do it together. But then Doctors kind of the shield for our team like he wanted, you know. He obviously everyone knew it was the worst time to have this ship drop, but he was the only one to talk to the medi about it. He addressed all the questions and we were just allowed to go out there and try to focus, try to play. We heard hell of ship. You know, you guys shouldn't play, You should boycott. How can you play for a racist owner? How can you do this? How can you do that? And I'm thinking, like, y'all know, I mean, first of all, we feel like we have a good enough team to win the championship. But yeah, you know what I mean. So they say something, are you just not gonna go to work? You know what I mean? So, like I said, it was never we were never playing for Sterling. We were always playing for us and trying to build our own tradition. They're trying to get the Clippers, you know, from being a doormat to a respectable team. So we got all kinds of crazy you guys should do this, you guys should do that. But we just sat down and talked, and we threw ideas out there, and I actually came up with, you know, let's flip our ships inside out and when we get out there, thomb on the ground and kind of just let everyone know. We know what he said was wrong, what he did was wrong, but we have a bigger goal. And then never had anything to do with him from the beginning. You think that just that however, and over y'all pay no. I mean, we got our asses blowing out in game four, if if I'm not mistaken, but we ended up winning the series and seven and then we were up three one against Houston and we tricked that off. So I don't think you know, it was noise, but it was. You can't blame us tricking ship off on that. It was just another distraction and we gonna deal with not the right motivation, not not from your owner, you know what I mean, not from the situation, and then you know, so it was just it was definitely a black guy. But like I said, it was a chance for Adam Silver, you know, the kind of okay, your first year on the job that you're you're you know, what are you gonna do? And it's amazing. I think that's when he kind of show people, Okay, you know, I'm ready for this heavy lifting. He did what he's supposed to do. We got to do without the league, and we've been moving on ever since. So this is also a time, you know, within that two thousand, fifteen, sixteen seventeen era, when we kind of start losing pillars that you know, we're great in our time. You know, this is when a window of time when Tim retired, Kobe retired, Dirk McGuire, I think d Wade was the last one to leave Paul Peers retired. Yeah, Kevin Garnett retired. We lost some greats of the game, and it was kind of a changing of the guard. Although you know, arguably Brown was still the best player at that time. You know, Kobe was obviously right there, you know, and there was a time where Kobe was the best player in the world. But we lost you know, guys that carried this league for fifteen, you know, twenty years, So it was a crazy time. And you know, you've got a chance to play with Tim and you know, I got a chance to play of a Kobe. I had great battles with Garnette. Garnette was a motherfucking dog. I wish he was. I did a radio interview last night with some Warrior people and we were They brought the we belief thing. But how true was the US getting chemical Garnett? Do you know? Because you were you were Nellie's right hand and went Nellie his dog, and then Jack he were a black step step son. I basually was, yeah, shout out Nelly. Sure. I didn't hear nothing about it, bro, So you didn't know if we were actually or with that rumor or anything. I honestly think I honestly know for a fact that they would about heard anything about KG. I would have said something to y'all. Can you imagine though, if KG would have came Dow we believed team that ship would have been sick me. I don't even want to think about it. Bro. Yeah, we passed that stop reminiscent. But like I said, it was it was not damn that KG b d you Monte Petrice could have been ugly, danger could have been ugly. And like I said, changing of the guards. These guys are on their way out. New guys are are are rising. Like I said, Lebron kind of had the throne at that time, but shortly after that we get we get Kaua comes on the site and thrown at that time, Yeah, what you mean he's been on the throne for how long? See minute? How long is that? So? How long has Lebron been up? With him and Kobe overlapping? Because it was, you know, only those two at the time we're considered probably you know, how long was Broun the best player? To you? I think Broun has been the best player in the league every year, said his first two years. I think from from his third year old he's been the best playing in the league. To me, I'm not mad at that. From his third year old, he just dominated. That's when he just all around. Oh my goodness, I just gotta give him his card. From his third year old, Lebron has been the best plan of the league. With guys like Tim Duncan and KG and all those guys being really and Kobe, all those guys, he's been the best in the teams. He took to the finals. He was going to the finals every year. Why those guys were in the league every year with whoever he had. Let's go, get on my back. You want to come Okay, you know what you're going right, We're going to the finals. Come on. I'm not mad at that. I'm mad at that. So, like I said, with with with the pillars of the of the community, the Elder Statesman's kind of exiting, this is like like I said, Lebron's at the top, and then you have Janice Is coming in. You have kauai is making the name for themselves, Steph Clay and Draymond. When with what the Warriors did, k D and Russ and Harden, all these new guys are ready to step up and be that wave of player and and and the game itself has changed as well, you know what I mean. It used to be uh something we both hung our has almost playing defense, you know what I mean, And that and that is on its way out as we're finishing as players. But you know, with this new almost like call of life, you know, the what was it called in baseball? When when? When? When the home run ball was going? This it's kind of just a just a new era of just crazy scoring and and style of play. And I think a lot has to do with the Warriors, you know what I mean. People always say you live by the three, died by the three. But you know, Stephen and Clay and and these guys changed the game. Well people don't understand though they did change the game. But they changed the game by having two of the best shooters ever. They played the same way we played. We just didn't make this money. We just didn't make it men shot we went. But people talked about defense. Every year they in the top ten defensively, So people talk about they're not playing deepense. Their offense makes them have great defense. So people have to stop saying that they don't play d because there was always one of the top defensive James every year they wanted, but I think two from the fact of, like you said, although they were the greatest shooters, it was just it was always you know, you hear the TNT crew that you can't win with the three ball. You can't do this with the three ball and the and they proved the game wrong. And now with just this newer gen narration of kids coming up, it's about shooting threes. And I go to AU games and I tell you, yes, you go ten possessions and then nobody touched the paint. Bro it goes everybody's watching. You know that the key to the offense back in the day was it had to touch the paint. You know what I mean, you know, work inside out, and now it's worked out and further out and further out half court, which is crazy from the logo with all these big six nine, six, ten, two sixty two fifty two fluid guys moving, a little dude you know named Steph Curry comes in and and and and finds a way to be effective, not being athletic, as a strong, as big as these guys, but just as effective, if not more. Yo. Yo. The question he got the whole package. We can handle the ball like no package. And you saw him early on. I mean you were his teammate. We drafted kind of the end of what our team was with, you know, Monte and you, You and Monte hung around. You asked to be traded, right, Yeah. When when they drafted, like they all, y'all was gone, all my home was going. Everybody I was around, obviously, no one new stuff is gonna be. I had no clue, I had no long I was with like a mother two And the time wasn't good because at the time I was within Brandon Jenn's game fifty five. So I didn't see that. I didn't see this step with that day. I didn't see that happening. But he should prove me wrong and a lot of people wrong. I absolutely agree. Also to think to how you know, now we can kind of touch on that that that Warrior running that Warrior dynasty. How they built you know, like I said, Lebron took it to you know, teams, I'm going to where I want to go and come join me. And then the Warriors did it the old traditional way, you know, through through through great draft picks and three great draft and and you know, front office moves and strategic moves. You know, Jerry West was in that mix, you know, Bob Myers and the rest of the crew they were in. They're kind of constructing that team in it and it kind of like, Okay, well damn, they did it the right way, you know what I mean. And then you look at Philly trusting the process. They did it the right way, you know what I mean. So's there's kinda do we see what way it's gonna work? You know? Now we've kind of have a little bit more parody where it's kind of more two stars and three stars. But do you see it staying come play with me, or do you see it kind of going back to the old traditional way of you know, building through the draft. I think it's gonna it's got to come play with me. Let's build our team, my homeworking most it's gonna stay there. It's gonna stay there because that's the only way you can win. Now it's too late to go back to the other way. You go back to the other way, you're gonna be at the bottom of the battle. You have to team up with guys. Too many, too many teams are good and too many teams have two or three All Stars, they might not make it to the All Star Game, and they may put up All Star numbers. You know, there's a lot of teams like that. So I think it's gonna stay with guys going to continue to try to play with each other because the guys want to win now, and guys want to be lawal like Dame. Literally, you want to show some largy. So it's good that they can make a move and get a guy like car Melo to add to their team. They can get big fellow back, they can have a good chance to win it. So I think I think guys want to stay law you and win it. But at the same time, they're gonna they still recruiting guys of the situation. Yeah, and like I said, the process takes too long, and we live in a time and age where trusting the process is going to get a whole bunch of head coaches fired and and and management fired and you know tread exactly. So it's it's really now, like I said, the door has been opened. I think the Warriors are kind of an exception, but even they, you know, we're able to recruit, you know, Kde and kind of solidify their dynasty. So I think I agree with you with the game has changed and it's changed forever. When it comes to that, I mentioned previously how trust the process is the process of the Sixers took and a lot of people you know, had mixed opinions on if that is the process. They've had a handful of town of late, you know. They they've also built around em Beat and Simmons and and and did some good things around them. What do you think about them as a as a team right now? And the person that the slogan was made for and Beat trust the process. He's not happy with the process because he's the first person to speak on not having Jimmy Butler is a big problem. Choosing Tobias Harris over Jimmy. It was a big mistake they had. They had a chance to to to cater to Jimmy to keep Jimmy there. I think Jimmy is a better fit there. And he was leading those guys the guy who and be who they who they land, putting their hat on us who who the who, the big feller they team. He was the first person to say that he's upset with Jimmy Butter not being there. That is your star player for him to say that things are not right there. So they trust in the process, but they made their process took a step back when they let Jimmy go. So you don't see them having a chance to win anything. No, I wouldn't say that because they're in the East. They have a chance to still win the East. They still have heart for them and be together to paint. I think Reddick was a big loss to big loss too, you know. So that's that that's two big pieces to vetermans to two guys that can go anywhere and help any team right now. You know what I means. Jimmy Butter is an all star. So I just interesting, it's gonna be really interesting the process works and playing well. But I love Ben Simester and to me, the only way the process works is with the championship. That's right. You know that I'm not trusting it right now. You know you're not relevant. I'm not trusted it. I like them. I like that to me that they were my pick earlier to come out of the East, you know, and I haven't really wavered from that pick. So we'll see how it goes. But let's uh, let's talk about how the style of play has changed. You know, I think we got the old the taste of the old physical air. You came and went two thousand. I was two thousand, two thousand three, then actually locked in two thousand four. So we got a little bit of the hand checking physicality and in that part of the game. And that's what I loved. That's what we all knew how to play like. I still play like that. That's why that's why I'm not being playing the Big three, because the Big Big got the old old rules. It was fun. I mean, we would talk, we would talk about the dogs, you know what I mean with the hand checking, the horrid files, you know. And I think once again back to going to Mellow Nolot gotta taste it that too. And as you see, if you see Mellow playing on the court right now, you can tell he come the old school poles. He's saying funk all the doubters though he's out there playing with and I love it. He's saying funk everybody. I love it to But like his motor and his hunger, like you don't see a couple of weeks ago, there was one play where he had three offensive rebounds in the row finally went through someone's mouth, like, Yo, welcome to that's that's how we play. How we got that on some motherucker's though, Like I could tell some people Garden Mellower scared, but that's going to transfer on it to everybody on the team. It was a good pickup. It was a good pick up. But let's like I said, it went from being able to be physical to slowly like almost flag football now. But at the same time, and I tell people, you know, because I kind of think like I was one of the last of the dying brees to kind of like be like a defensive minded three in D type. You know, there's like maybe a camp maybe five or six of them the NBA now, But it was like it was kind of the end of what that kind of last real raw defense was about. And like I said, we didn't really get to play the defense they got to play, and you know obviously the eighties and nineties, but it was our form of it. But now with there being no defen and the game has grown, you know what I mean. And then you think about it strategically and from a business standpoint, like when you turn on sports and you don't want to see like a defense like an eighty three eighty nine game. You know what I mean. People want to see a hundred and twenty, but you don't want to see You're right, you're we don't want to see more teams losing by forty points, you know what I mean. But you gotta think highlight wise, dunks, three pointers, transitional game like that's what the game is. So that's why it's kind of crazy that they've gone away from you can't play no defense now. I feel like if you in the NBA and you get beat by forty when the playoff time come, they need to see you to the c A tournament. There's some good teams and still done well. You know what I mean. You you gotta be careful saying like this because they want to look sit up like the Lakers lost my Remember I came with me being on the team losing my party. I'm sorry, it's a lot of points, forty dogs, it's a lot of points. I don't I would I was kicked out? Are I filed out? I'm not being I'm not being involved in. I'm not being a part of a team that losing my party. I'm getting kicked out on purpose. He already I mean, I don't even have to say, but you know I was. You can kicked out too, There's no question taking that ship. A couple of weeks ago, Joanna's dunked on Julius Randall. I think from the next My god, I just I would have had that. I would have had the swing on dude, just the birth to no drill incredible in his face, like it was just like like that's how I supposed to be. Yeah, it's big played back in the day. I like, but they would have tried to pun it. Like imagine him coming to Lane with Shack. He would have dumped on Shock one time, and Shock would have had to take all this ship out, like all of it. That's why I like, you know, I mean, I got a chance to play with Shock on the backside of Crep. But you know in his hey that we used to talk and I'm just like, you know, when someone's cooking, the guard was cooking, he would tell them to send him for the paint, and Shock would lay their ass out and they would slow their whole momentum down, you know what I mean. And I think they're like stuff like that is strategically doing ship like that and then kind of in four I missed that kind of stuff. You know what I want to say about I got a story by saying I had the most vulnerable moment everyone ever was shocked happen. So you know, we'm sa really cool. When we played something, you know, I always run up to him and give him a chess buck. Bro Man, you know I'm not even thinking about it. I run up to him and give him get rid of chess. But he really not pay attention. But he turned around the last minute. This mother catch me Ben. I'm like, man, if you don't put me to all these people out here, this catch me mid And so I'm like, come on, manuye, dude, cannot be that big. I got some crazy stories about shock in Phoenix. Man, he was a big ass prank star. Oh man, when we get him on the show, I'm gonna call him on some of the shift he did. You got people gonna be blowing away with some big fellers did well. Let's go well, I mean we're turning of the decade. You know, we're heading into a new start where we have some great duos. Complete shift, would you say right now? Arguably the best dual is a d and Lebron. I think that's safe to say. No, the Can and the Brow, that's what you're talking about. The King and the Brow. That's their names. That's gonna be a duo. If they could, you know, play together for you know him, for the years. That that's that's gonna go down to history. Remember I said that he was. I said that Braun wasn't playing like the dog after that first game this season because the clip, I say, you need to play with more dog, I said, Bron, you can average forty. You can average fifty if you want. He's been getting triple doubles every night. Best record in the league. The legos are tough. I'm gonna lie, you know if he won't. Just don't take it easy on him, Bron. Stop playing to the level your competition. Get seventy points a night because you can't. It's easy. He gotta pace itself though, and damn that ship on his legs. You want it now, you wanted in you when you want it. I'm asking when you want it. I want it every night. You can't have it every night after year seventh, in the year seventeen war, I mean he paid a million dollars. But it's just things. If I just wanted a minute, we spanned a million, I was my body just, oh my good. Might have spent a million sports. You'll be playing football and basketball. I'll be playing fucking rugby in basketball. We'll be all over the place, and I'll be boxing. I'll be jumping out of jets. All kind of said. If I spent a million dollars a million dollars on your body a year, nothing shouldn't be wrong with you. Log management, Are you kidding me? I'm the other way. Pace yourself. Bro. A million of games you can do during the season, but I want to see it in the I want to see in the playoffs. You can do it. Just do it. But right down the hall, Kawai and PG and and PG has been back for a minute. Kauai is Kauai, you know what I mean. He's really hurt, you know, but he's still doing what he's doing. But I ain't even talking about little man. I'm just talking about to deal itself, you know. I think when Paul George, you know, gets his footing back, he's been playing really well. I think it's gonna be a Western Conference battle. Uh final to go down. It's gonna be fine. We talked about all these duos. We just stick is due on TV. Yeah, we just do a period. They don't even know if you don't even know that. But honest, nice Luca. They're scary. Lucas scary. I don't think I was talking to someone. I don't think. And this is no knock on Brown and no knock on anybody, but offensively skilled. I don't think we've ever seen a player coming to the game this right. I mean something can say Kareem, but I don't even you know, back in the day when he came in, he came in completely dominant. But that the Luca is different because he can give it to you any where you wanted. Do they know that Luca's legit six nine, big body, but he's handles, He's step backs, doing whatever he wants to this league. All the records and numbers. Lebron was putting up that when he was breaking at the beginning's career, Lucas doing the same thing and squashing them all crazy especial. But what I like about him, I say this all the time about players. That's the first thing I noticed. He don't back down no, hell no, you know what I'm saying. That's the first thing, especially when you're coming. I got them from overseas to the NBA. The first thing they tried to take you are well you know that we I mean we that was always kind of the knock with you know, obviously a handful of him more special, you know, but a euro We was trying to punk them all off the rip. They couldn't bunk Carolinko. No, he was a dog. You couldn't, Carolina. I'm auer had our whole team, are our whole offense funked up in the playoffs. But you know, like I said, there were some exceptions for it from over you know, the knock back then was you know, they would be soft and getting their asks, and they had disappeared. But that's one thing. Luca, he's ready for it. He wants to get you know what I mean, he's he's ready for that head up any day, anytime, anywhere. And you know what's crazy though, everybody was talking about when Porzingis get there, how it's gonna be crazy. Porzinga's is not even on Lucas level. Not what I'll give Porzinga is gonna take him a hole after the type of knee injury he had. I'm not judging him until next year, but obviously I was looking at him the other day thinking the way you are else, just like I forgot this his first year back from knee injury, but like it's not it's man. Before Porzincas got hurt, we were thinking him up here, but robbing, I think, Lucas, I think they can still get there. You think so. I think they might have just slide another person in arriving and let him go to be out for something. You Alfred getting Batman stuff ready, He's gonna have to I don't know. I don't think he's robbing. You might not be robbing. I want to hold judgment into things just more Alfred. Right now, we done somebody in and Luca's Batman, Superman, Incredible, dog Knight, all of them, Dog Knight Rises, all that. But they said, I mean, you know you can check you can check my my paperwork. You know, I was telling people when he first came in the game that he has a chance to be one of the greatest players, not only European players, but ever. And you mentioned while we're talking, you think he's top three and v people. Right now, I think Luco will finish this year top three m v P if not definitely first team on if he don't win it, Yeah, definitely first team on NBA. And he's gonna be there for a long time. He stay healthy, gonna be there for a long time. I agree. I gotta get a Luca Jersey. Shout out Luca, Shout out Luka for real. He ain't got nothing to ask for beside to just tell him, you know, Luke ain't got the shoe deal. Yeah, you know I've been keeping He's still trying our shoes. And you don't want to jersey. I don't want to Jersey. I'm gonna go to the game up. I'd like to definitely like to do with Cuban home Rick call out of home me too. You mentioned something earlier about Lucas saying, uh, you know, and this is almost talking to the defense and what the game is like now. It's the easiest going the NBA than it was overseas. Yeah, and it makes sense, you know he playing overseas. It's probably him. You know, nine times over the overseas you have two Americans, so it's probably him and another guy that's actually getting to paid attention by defense. Everybody's keying on and the NBA, everybody has to be tend to. Everybody's hugging their man. Everybody gotta be respected. So he just walking to the paint, he has more space than anybody, more space needs ever had to go one on one and then and the NBA guys, they it looks like the guys take more pride and playing defense, but they have to because they're on the island and the ups and body want to be embarrassed. And like I said, I think it's great for the game that to have like players like Janice and Luca, and I think that talks to it at the beginning of the decade, how it's it's grown globally with social media and what players have been able to speak at about and you know, show that in the NBA is just an all around amazing thing to be a part of the global game. You know, it's definitely a global game. So it's you know, you're you're starting to see more younger European stars and that is what continues to grow the game. And I said, these players continue to get the contracts that they're getting. Have you seen Thundmaker's brother like eleven grades something something tall. He handled all that. It's crazy. I forgot the kid's name, but there's a young katie coming up to the pipeline to a helio or and forgot with the kid name. Boy he is nice. Let's transition right now into as we close out the two thousand tens. Me and Jack sat back and made a few lists. Don't try to go crazy. Just our list. You like it? Agree? If not right? You know, people, when you start making you said so and so, man, we don't. We'll care about all that we think. You guys, tell us what you think. But we're gonna start it off with the top five moments of the past ten years, and we'll start at number five. Kobe's last game and his story career points. Yes, sixty points had the whole stadium going craziness only right, like who goes out with their last game being sixty points? Kobe? That was crazy. I mean it was just good to watch man and knowing I heard he was and to see him finished, to go out like that, and how we stuck around, you know, like I said, especially with the climb and stay. A lot of guys bounce you know to get that ring at the end and Kobe stage true, Kobe rowed the ship into that motherfucker's sank un tempers healthy and can't get ten points right, Sorry, motherfucker's shout out to Code. Good back for for Kawai Leonards buzzer beater against Philly that ultimately gets the Raptors and then Canada their first championship. Note the kids that watch that, you see he helped the follow up through the goose neck. He just sat there and watched that mother bounce bounce. I said, everybody, you gotta keep you following through Coach Jack Top five moments number four with you know Kauai and you say what you want about Kauai, but he's got what two championships and two finals VPS and Defensive Player of the Year, and he led Ronald Raptors to their first championship and then came there was offering him the world out there too, free cars, free houses, free life. I'm just saying, you go to the country and get them a championship, and you need you can't be mad at it't be mad at expect the game respected to check it. Number three Russell Westbrooks Triple double run. I think we get as a society, we see greatness and we get almost tired of it and not really historically understanding how amazing what this man did was as a basketball player. It was. It was just unbelievable. Me knowing the few triple doubles I had my career, I only had one. It was close to like five. I probably have three or four. Yeah, you know what I mean, to consistently average it for what it was a two or three years, and to even to the point where he went and got nip shoutout rest in peace. That was crazy. On the sixties. Yeah, that's that was crazy, you know. So definitely, Russell Westbrook one was definitely top one of the top moments the Warriors, but not for their dynasty so to speak. It was the year they beat the Bulls. Record when they surpassed the seventy two and ten was seventy three and nine. But they didn't win the championship, so that's kind of Yeah, yeah, played good. Your regularly was a great regular season team. But that's also they gotta think that. So that's when they beat down a three one to Okay, see okay, So they beat okay see losing the finals, come back with easy money money and you know what I mean, solidified the end of their dynasty. And the number one moment of the two thousand ten dead It to us was Lebron's blocking Game seven on the road after leaving Miami, coming back to his hometown and winning Cleveland their first championship in fifty plus years. Man, that was amazing. That's say that changed the whole series. That's say that saved it. That was it. I mean, he made a lot of blocks doing the course of the amazing, you know what I mean, But just that block on the road. He's how how he was like chin above the rim, like blocked it with all this ship those great players, especially in the finals. If you look back in the history of time, most great players their moment and their players on offense. That was a defensive just kind of speaks to what Lebron is. Lebronco beach in many different ways, you know, not just scoring. So that was our top five, uh moments. So let's get into some honorable mentions that just missed the cut. Um. One of them, I don't feel but feel free like that. One of them, I don't feel feel but feel free you're coming back. You don't have your sung glasses on the wrap right now, right now. Dirk Dirk's one championship and what they did to get it. Um. I was on the Laker team that they swept out of the playoffs in the first round, and they went up against that that that Big three of Miami and they got their first champion. Dirk was dominant. That was big. That was big. I mean nobody everybody thought that Big three was gonna win that and eight nine there was all that, and and Dirk came in there and and stole himself on it in convincing fashion. Dame Lillard's waved goodbye to the thunder Dame is cold. You gotta think too, It's not even on you. But the shott he hit to knock Houston out a few years before that. But his goodbye his way to Paul George and on the ground deep logo. So I mean that was all, you know, shout out Dame Dollar. Lebron finally gets over uh you know the David and Golias situation in Boston in two thousand well to win his first first title. So that was just missed. The Katie's scoring run. I think we forget. You know, in his MVP years two thousand and fourteen year one straight games of twenty five or more, we were definitely in the mixed probably. But it's crazy with Kate, you know, he was just one of the most efficient. Dude, you could play good defense, but he's just so much bigger than you. Didn't matter all time. And then ray Allen's shot against in the two thousand Things, but you don't like what what's on that shot? You got a problem with raised? Excuse me? So anyway, man, that was all honorable mention. Um. Moving right along, we want to rank the top ten players of the decade. And so when we say this and we maybe leave some people out or have them in the rank and are not in the ring, you got to realize we kind of felt like some of these guys carried over and ended their careers in the two thousand tents, but not weren't necessarily their best body of work in the two thousand tens with this list, so we're not ranking any of these in order. We want you guys to put them in order, or we're just giving you what we feel at the top ten. But let's start off at the top. You want to make sure they know that right, because we're saying all kind of ship, We're gonna get the honorable mentions out the way. First Star with Paul George p G PlayStation. I love PG bro coming off and coming back off the injury, a couple of injuries, yeah, but that, yeah, the big one for the Olympic team and came back to do what he has done and doing what he's doing with the Clippers. Now. You always got a lot of love with PG one. Oh yeah, there's no question Kyrie one of your favorite players, human joy stick crazy, one of the best finishers I've seen Rod stricking on steroids. I'm just a fan of his game, not only his shoes, but I'm a fan of his game. Yeah, mellow, someone we've advocated for, big fan for us, you know what I mean. And and he's he's only mounorable mention because in this hey days, I think we're more of the two thousands. But he was a monster Hall of Fame and glad he's back on Portland. You know, you see me and Jack advocating for him, and everyone's out there talk and ship saying he couldn't do this, couldn't do that. They're playing. We can say what you want, but he's playing very well important and we're happening for him. So when I got a chance to play with and he's just had the worst luck I've probably ever seen a player have his DeMarcus Cousins. Yeah, we both love he was on pace too, you know, numbers wise to be in one of the all time greats with his numbers he put up in Sacramento, and then going to New Orleans and on the brink of a you know, signing a huge deal, tears as Achilles, where are you? You know, then comes back and signs, you know, a little small deal with Golden State, tears his quad when coming back, and then the following summer tears his a c L. So it's been nothing of bad luck. We wish Boogie the best. Definitely absolutely Boogie. And then one of my former teammates and to me, one of the greatest point guards and leaders the game has ever seen. I think he gets a bad rep sometimes, but Chris Paul probably the smartest point guard I've seen playing my time. Chris Paul was a killer man, one of the most competitive. I put him right up there with a and Kobe as far as competitiveness and guys that I played with Chris is Chris is a mobster. But let's get into our top ten. This is not in any particular order. Like I said, we're gonna let you guys judge it. We want to see what you guys think, So make sure you guys tap in and tells what you think your order is. But we feel like these are the top ten players of the two thousand tens. Starting off with Dwyane Wade lash I think he's the number three shooting guard all time behind m J. Kobe. The way, what do you think? I can't argue with that? Um the dominant whole career. He has the championship to back it up, he has the final MVP to back it up. I mean, I can't argue with you on that. You shouldn't Steph Curry, someone who came in and changed the game. Um, you know you live by the three, died by the three, and they found a way to build a dynasty out of the three. And someone who's coming, like you said earlier with joy Stick handled too and has revolutionaries to revolutionize the game. How many and how many people can you say he's done that has changed the game and full of the hand of James Harden on the offensive run we've we've never seen, or we haven't seen in our lifetime. Obviously one of the greatest all time offensive players we've ever seen. I'm speechless when it comes to James hard because, like, but ke've been working on your actors ship, how like your mannerisms and all your breathing and all that. I've gotta see this Jack, is that you're trying to be an actor man with him right vact scene? Okay, um, but James though, like it's I don't understand, Like as much as we played defense and as hard as we work, it was no way that somebody would be moved so nonchalant and score points like that on us. Like he's getting sixty and it's not even sweating. You don't have a strong body. He looked kind of fat, like you drink beers all day. You know what I'm saying, He's getting sixty a game. I got some of that, James Harden. Uh. I got frustrated at one time. I just had a throne on the ground. I just don't deal with getting torched too. Well, yeah, it's none what can you do any and people get mad because he's mastered the game. He's learned how to make people foul, and he's learned how to go to the foul line twenty times, although I think the rest still calls some bullshit fouls every once in one's three point shots. But he's mastered, and I think people get mad at the fact that he's outsmarted the game almost and become one of the most prolific score we've ever seen. Kawhi Leonard the Claw, two time champion, two time final m v P. You know you had him as a as a young boy in San Antonio, and I remember you telling me you saw something in him early. Yeah. I knew, well one. I knew that he wasn't gonna be in San Antonio. Let me say that too. I knew he was gonna be one of the top players in this league. He was focused, the way he was built and his knowledge of basketball in the way he played the game like he was similar to Tim Duncan. He's even killed. Hey, nobody take him off his game. You can say what you want to him, you can knock him down. He know he can play the game, and he's gonna play the game will and he was focused gonna be in the best Kobe so when I think obviously his best days were probably uh two thousand's, but he definitely was a killer coming into the early part of two thousand up until he you know, kind of body started giving out. When you say being that speak for yourself. Man, Like I've seen Kobe from high school to now, and you got to put together McDonald man and cop. It's just it was just it was just special. I heard they rob you the MVP in that game too. What happened? Well, McDonald's all American game check go check, thanks for USA, go check the footage. I think I was maybe eight for ten from the field, three ft three from the three point line, twenty one points. Nobody else was even close to twenty one points, and they gave the MVP to a guy named Shaheen Holloway. Holloway, but I think, all right, yeah, he had like eight points eight as a couple of turnovers. It wasn't we want just didn't add up to me, you know what I mean. When we get Kobe on the show, you gotta talk talking about that. I'm going to ask Kobe who he think should have won m VP and That's what matters. How code we play that game. He was solid, you know, he was chilling, Like, why am I here? I'm going to the league. You guys, you beneath me. Don't on you shooting? Played away on you and Clay Thompson a silent assassin. And you can say what you want, but Clay could arguably be, if not the one of the greatest shooters we've ever seen. Sixty points and twenty nine minutes on two and a half dribbles, one step back right, Clay was the killer man. I remember always having to chase his ass off screens and they get a chance to play with them, and seeing him and steps steps work ethic outside of the games, and how much they shoot and how much they don't miss. Like to really see, I say, Steph has these records and gets more shots up because he's better with the ball off the ball and can run, picking rolls and do all that stuff. But it can when it comes to just straight spot up shooting. I couldn't really tell you to me who I think is better. It's those guys are right neck and next to me. A lot of people that don't play basketball. I don't know how hard it is to catch a ball in the second and moving in your hand to get the scenes to shoot a perfect, perfect spinih shot does Oh my god, Watch it for all you guys that never know no wasted movement. When Clay catches the ball, Watch how he shifts the ball like this to where the scenes. His hands are right on the scenes and every time you don't even recognize them, sometimes moving right along. Anthony Davis, someone that you really like. He could have could have been I mean, you know what I mean, It could have been m VP of the last handful of years. That's something going great with the Lakers now. And Brian Yeah, I called him Tom Duncan on steroids. Now everybody's stealing all the smoke hits stelling now stuff and saying, come on, that's our ship. They take an hour ship. But it's cool, ain't okay? We'll get him later. Russell Westbrook Monster the human door cell battery man, to overcome the injuries he's overcome and to put up the numbers here doing what I love about Rush. You could you know, he's a hater love kind of guy. But I think what outside of the numbers, what I personally love is that motherfucker plays hard every second he's on the court. I like that he marches to the beat of his own drum. You know me love to leave it. You know hey, average triple double and y'all still kill me. You know what I'm saying, y'all, y'all say I can't shoot, Okay, cool, I'm still gonna have a triple like I just love the way he approached the game, you know what I mean. I love it. I love I love it too. Kevin Durant arguably one of the greatest scores. It's not the greatest score we've ever seen in the game. Is he human? Does he have snake? Plays like a point guard in a two guard mixed with you know, three guard, actually power forward, size, handle the ball. I mean, it's I've never seen nothing like in his efficiency, you know what I mean. I think people, like I said, James Harden is tremendous, but I think there's a few other guys that if they were in that role every single night, you know, I'm gonna shoot thirty to forty shots. I could shoot fifteen to twenty three to score like that. If Kevin Durant wanted to, he would lead the world and scoring every single year and efficient question, Steph could do it too. I think Steph could score like that too if that was his role and that that was his offensive system. But yeah, Kevin Durant and then last but not least, King James k And I think, you know, not only on but off the court. Unlike any superstar we've ever seen to do as much as he's done for the game itself, growing the game, giving guys platforms and giving them guys game overall, and in business of basketball, and and and branding yourself as a business. I just think Lebron has done so much for the game of basketball outside of basketball and in basketball, you know, and for president and past players. There's no question definitely carried the torch. So that was our list, like we said, in no particular order. You guys down in the comments, give us your top ten players and honorable mentors if you like, and see how you fare against our lists. Moving right along, teams of the decade coming in, and number five, we had the Raptors. They've been hanging around, they've been in the Eastern Conference, mix with the with the can you know, and then they continued to running too. Someone who went to the finals eight straight times. Every time they walked to school, they go this route right there, because they go this route we try to get to school. He right here, they go through Duncan Donuts. He had the drift through, Like yeah, like Lebron, get your ass on, bro, we don't have a chance. We got they got Lebron to leave, made a crazy trade that you know it's still talked about, but ended up working for him and inquiring Kauai. Kauai came about this business just like you said, Like Russ, I don't give a funk. What do you think. I'm gonna sit out here and make sure my body is ready to play, still playing hurt for you. I'm gonna come get you a championship, and then I'm a bounce, get these six seven brades to the back and just stretch your whatever penitentiary brade job on the business as usual. The Calves and Lebron, The Calves are the Lebrons, two and one are different, whatever I would say, the Lebrons the Lebrons. Someone who went to the finals eight straight years and remember a handshake with every teammate, every crazy right handshake. It was incredible. He sat down at the at the pre postgame press conference and explain the whole first two or three possessions of the game to a reporter though, like that was crazy, Like how do you remember something at happened in the first possession again? And they replayed it on TV and it was exactly you know what I mean, Like that's crazy, he's crazy crazy your former team to San Antonio spurs Man, they picked up one championship in this decade, right, but just just a fifty win team every year, every year. And it's a plug and play to me, I compared to like the New England Patriots, you know, me and Popping Belichick, and they create these systems where they're able to plug and play guys and they're not necessarily all the time have the best players, but they're always a team that's going to be competitive winning fifty plus games for however many years, there was a lot of years by the funk out booting your ass party there, you got booted because I wasn't buy anything. You wouldn't corporate, I'm not giving man. At that time, I wasn't a company. What are you still not a company? You've never been to come? No, no, but what it was I was a great teammate. Always yeah, I wouldn't be leeling myself. That's okay moving around along the heat. It's crazy the heat. Uh, you gotta get something off your chest. Just good. You need a hug, and give you a hug. You came back to the definitely the Miami Heat the number two team of the decade, winning two out of four championships. They should have won more. Dog, I think definite should have won more. I just you know, I think they could have added something to a solid piece to back up Chris Bosh because he wasn't all the way there all the time and he didn't show up all the time. With d Wade and Brun, I just felt like that that makes they should have won more championships. It's a hell of comments, a hell of a duo. And then our team of the decade, the Going to State Warriors, three out of five championships, changed the game um NBA record for wins in the season. Although they didn't win the championship, they just I think they exemplified the old school way of doing it too. Outside of being able to get K D. Lure and KD. Away, they built through the draft and they had a great Core and Steph Clay and Draymond and people are tripping off what they're doing this year. And the way I look at it as I mean, these guys are just getting a break, you know. I mean Steph and Clay probably played more basketball the last fire than any player in the history of the game. Uh. You know, Draymond is healthy, but I look at his numbers and he's only playing about twenties something minutes the game right now. What they're doing is letting Dillo do his thing so they can use him later if they need to trade him, because he's a hell of a player. And then they're finding out what these young players can. They got this one, Pascal I think his last name is or whatever. He's leading. He's leading all rookies and scoring, you know, and they he would have never got that opportunity if they have a healthy team. You know, you don't get to show your things. So the kid pool out of Michigan. So what they're doing is they're developing their young talent and they're having trade assets and then you mess running put two of the one of these young good players de low in a lottery pick because they're gonna probably be at the bottom and they're gonna be in the lottery. You trade for Janice and you're right back in the game next year. To close this show out, man, we wanted to say goodbye. I think this this the NBA is in great hands heading into two thousand twenty with a lot of young, bright stars. But you know, with the closing of this decade, we saw some great retire man. We saw some great Jason Kidd Bayerry do one of the all time great point guards. My vet o ge story when Mike Bibby mom took me to try out, took me up there play beast pick up and Ja Kidd was there. I remember that like yesterday, like him to embrace me as a youngster. I always every time I see him, I thanking for that. But this was one of the best town business man to play against him in the finals where he was in his man and against Tony Park at the time that they were talking about trading in San Antonio. So I have a special shout out j Kidd absolutely, Dwayne Wade Flash we touched on them earlier. You know, great two way player before you know, the guy that could do everything. Someone played, even took pride in blocks like probably the all time leading guard and blocks or something like that. Amazing Kevin Garnett. We talked about him early in the show if he would have came to the We Believed team, but just what he's still for. I just wish everybody had his passion. It would be crazy. What if everybody had his pass for the games that it wouldn't be no for they point blow up. You got to get him on the show. Yes, Um, one of your former teammates and someone you love. Tim Duncans and duncan big fundamentals are paintball team. Um, but I're gonna be the greatest pile for of all time. Can do it all, best teammate, super smart, you can coach, do him everything. If you want to start an organization, you started with Tim dunk The only thing I knocked on Timmy can't dress for ship words. You know. I'm but that was horrible. That was horrible. Uh. Someone who could could have been one of the greats, but just injury, bug and and and some bad luck was t mac Man Killer because he jumped so high but all but shot with similar to clay like. He was always a straight range get to the basket dunk on your shoes. He's one of the best top ten scorers of all time. I agree. I think he's definitely up there. Slept on Steve Nash, two time, two time MVP, former teammate of mind, just saw the floor like no one I've ever seen, you know, up there with you know that the magic Johnson and Chris Paul's as you know, being able to see the floor and make place for others always made his teammates better. Great guy on and off the court, and uh, you know, he had a hell of a round and Steve move hip to y'all think too still stute, super Yeah, he get down, Steve, Steve, get down. Paul Pierce the truth very under He's really underst like stuff out of this game, WI add it him? Paul Pierce was all around killer, the best. He has the best footwork I've ever seen in any basketball player in my life. Footwork, crazy clutched gene crazy three pointer, mere range and get there and dunk on you talk shit, played at his pace, play to his pace. Uh, Dirk man killer. I don't We had some wars, but I really think I would love to get him in and talk to him about it. I think we really made him better with the ship we did to him, and during that we believe because he was the MVP that season wins, but we for the first time, like people like me and you guarded him and we changed the game and every time he you know, he turned like so we tried to punk him out of the series and it worked. We took it, but then he came back absolute animal. So that's why I think. I really think like we were like that, like little dogs just nagging the funk out of him and kind of put them on, you know, put more toughness in him and came back with a vengeance. You had to go home. That's something after losing that first round, like the wounds, Like what did these motherfucker's due to us? The rat for everything. We just loved to these dudes, just the killer. He was one of my favorite players man, just to be able to do what he can do to like, you know, one of the original st Etch four's, the one leg fade away, like there was nothing you can do with He was just a miss mismatched nightmare. Top five all time, not top five, but he's out there. We have to see Dirk. Dirk is tough. He said, if they got thirty, got thirty plus, didn't he You got a lot of points, so he should. I think Dirk is top. If he has thirty, he has to be top five. Right, players of all time? Scores, Oh, scores of all time. Yeah, I'm not sure where he ranks on the list. I think I think he stapped five. Let us know, you know, they don't know, they know the facts. And then like he said, Kobe Bean, twenty years in the game, you get a hundred points of your way out right, five championships. One of the most mentally tough players I've ever seen. His mental approach was second enough from me, just all around great. And then like you said, like who goes out with sixty points? I mean people, people, people living in in in the in the moment, and they don't understand how great Kobe is because they said they're watching So they're watching a great player right now, Lebron. But Kobe was special man kill and then last but not least, someone who's still pushing along at twenty two years Vince carter Man shout out Vince and bro. He took the He took the world by storm when he came into the game, and in the nineties, and and what he was doing when he did for Toronto, and uh, you know, for him to be able to steal the longevity to play twenty two years in the NBA, like that's hard to do. He also put a spark back in the Olympics too, when he dunked over that. The only thing I didn't like about it he tried to grow it. And I told him that he tried to grow a ship out that years. Ship was fuck. I don't know what that was. I told him to his face, Man, cut that ship off, I told him later once we played together, but that ship was got awful. But outside of that, he was incredible, one of the most athletic skilled players that we've ever seen. So it's been a hell of a decade, you know. Like I said, the NBA is left in great hands. We gotta let a lot of young, up and coming talent with Luca and the Greek Free and Tree Young and Ben Simmons embed the list goes on. Like I said earlier, the Warriors aren't done yet. The Warriors will, you know, find a way to get back in the mix, you know, can the Lakers, can Lebron bring the Lakers back to to prominence. Can PG and Kauai bring the Clippers their first title? Uh? You know, I'm excited to see what this next. Ten holes, but I'm about to be forty. Bro. I don't look like the best days ahead of you, bro, So next time we do it will be fifty. I don't know if we do all the smoke for ten years, no, no, no, we're gonna do it. Nay now, A lot of you're not doing it for ten years anyway, Gonna graduate at some point. Thank you guys for joining us. You guys have a happy, safe New Year, and man is gonna be crazy. We got some crazy schedules and slates both hands, man check out, and we got a lot of ship coming from you guys. Thank you for to the name. We'll catch you later. Um h m h m hm m hmm.

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