This week, we’re taking a short breath and sharing Steve’s recent conversation with David Duchovny from his guest appearance on Fail Better. The two talk about their shared admiration for Samuel Beckett and the surprising amount of common ground between them.

They explore Steve’s two-decade retreat from the spotlight after the internet invented rumors about his death, and how he has returned with a podcast of his own. The two of them talk about listening, what people didn’t appreciate about Pee-wee Herman, and the deep, lasting importance of Sesame Street. This is a conversation about the past, for the future.

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