Caroline Ellison, former co-CEO of Alameda Research and Sam Bankman-Fried’s ex-girlfriend, takes the stand and has a lot to say. Ellison recently pled guilty to financial fraud, and is cooperating with the prosecution. In this episode Lidia Jean Kott discusses what came up on Day 1 of Caroline’s testimony with Jacob Goldstein, financial reporter and author of the book Money. 

This conversation was recorded in the evening on October 10. 

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Caroline Ellison, former co-CEO of Alameda Research and Sam Bankman-Fried’s ex-girlfriend, takes the stand and has a lot to say. Ellison recently pled guilty to financial fraud, and is cooperating with the prosecution. In this episode Lidia Jean Kott discusses what came up on Day 1 of Caroline’s testimony with Jacob Goldstein, financial reporter and author of the book Money. 
This conversation was recorded in the evening on October 10. 
Questions for Michael? Submit them by clicking the link in our show notes or visiting <a href="https://www.pushkin.fm/podcasts/against-the-rules">atrpodcast.com</a>
To access bonus episodes, and to listen to all of our coverage ad-free, sign up for Pushkin plus on the Against The Rules show page in <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/against-the-rules-with-michael-lewis-the-trial/id1455379351">Apple Podcasts</a> or at <a href="https://www.pushkin.fm/join-pushkin">Pushkin.fm/plus</a>.

Michael Lewis’s latest book Blockers: Rebels in the Deep State tells the story of federal civil servants who risked — and in most cases, lost — their jobs in the early days of the second Trump administration. In this companion series, we hear about how Lewis reported the book and what kind of government we’re left with after the ravages of DOGE. 

Get Blockers now at blockersbook.com or wherever books are sold.

Journalist and bestselling author Michael Lewis explores the figures in American life who rely on the public's trust, whether in sports, in business, in the courtroom, or on TV. What happens when that trust erodes and we can no longer agree on what's fair and what's not?

Michael Lewis&rsquo;s latest book Blockers: Rebels in the Deep State tells the story of federal civil servants who risked &mdash;&nbsp;and in most cases, lost &mdash; their jobs in the early days of the second Trump administration. In this companion series, we hear about how Lewis reported the book and what kind of government we&rsquo;re left with after the ravages of DOGE.&nbsp;
Get Blockers now at&nbsp;<a href="http://blockersbook.com/">blockersbook.com</a> or wherever books are sold.
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Journalist and bestselling author Michael Lewis explores the figures in American life who rely on the public's trust, whether in sports, in business, in the courtroom, or on TV. What happens when that trust erodes and we can no longer agree on what's fair and what's not?

Against the Rules: Blockers Companion Podcast

Michael Lewis’s latest book Blockers: Rebels in the Deep State tells the story of federal civil servants who risked — and in most cases, lost — their jobs in the early days of the second Trump administration. In this companion series, we hear about how Lewis reported the book and what kind of government we’re left with after the ravages of DOGE. 

Get Blockers now at blockersbook.com or wherever books are sold.

Journalist and bestselling author Michael Lewis explores the figures in American life who rely on the public's trust, whether in sports, in business, in the courtroom, or on TV. What happens when that trust erodes and we can no longer agree on what's fair and what's not?

 

Michael Lewis&rsquo;s latest book Blockers: Rebels in the Deep State tells the story of federal civil servants who risked &mdash;&nbsp;and in most cases, lost &mdash; their jobs in the early days of the second Trump administration. In this companion series, we hear about how Lewis reported the book and what kind of government we&rsquo;re left with after the ravages of DOGE.&nbsp;
Get Blockers now at&nbsp;<a href="http://blockersbook.com/">blockersbook.com</a> or wherever books are sold.
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Journalist and bestselling author Michael Lewis explores the figures in American life who rely on the public's trust, whether in sports, in business, in the courtroom, or on TV. What happens when that trust erodes and we can no longer agree on what's fair and what's not?
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Judging Sam: Caroline Ellison Takes The Stand

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