Full Show: 4BC Afternoons with Sofie Formica, June 16th, 2025

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Good afternoon, and welcome to a brand new week. It's lovely to have your company on four BC and four RO. I hope you had a wonderful weekend. I'm Sophie for Micah, keeping you company through until three pm this afternoon and hoping that you would like to join me in the conversation today and every day. Just some of what we're covering on the program today will include what we do with old used masks. I'm talking about the face masks. Since COVID nineteen, we know that more than nine hundred and fifty billion disposable masks were dumped into landfill. That's around three point eight million tons of waste. So today Professor Pingingang Song from the University of Southeast Queensland is going to tell us how they're turning some of that waste into very smart things. We'll find out all about that after one. Yesterday was World Elder Abuse Awareness Day, so Sue Leech is going to join us from Elder Abuse Action Australia just after one o'clock today, I should say Professor Song will be up to two. Evan Lucas is going to be with us at twelve thirty. We'll talk finance with him, including what's going on with world oil prices and what that will mean for us. And speaking of the bowser, Paul Gover will be with us again talking cars for motoring Monday, Color Binyaska has our entertainment news covered after the weekend, and speaking of entertainment, how would you like to get along to see a little bit of the rugby on the weekend the rugby league I mean double pass for the Broncos and Sharks this weekend will be given away to a lucky listener before three on.

Afternoons and now on four BC and network stations across Australia afternoons with Sophie for Micah.

And hopefully you've been tuning in all morning to the different programs Breakfast and of course Mornings with Bell. Now if you'd like to join me in the conversation, you know the number one double three eight eighty two or text zero four double nine eight eighty eight eighty two. On this June sixteen, which is World Sea Turtle Day. You know this is a real day that we are reminded of these fabulous marine animals. The largest leatherback turtle ever recorded was found washed ashore in Wales in nineteen eighty eight, and it measured nearly three meters in length. Imagine that, weighing over just over nine hundred and fourteen kilos. Sadly it had drowned and the reason was because it became entangled in fishing gear, and unfortunately that is the demise for many of our turtles. World Sea Turtle Day highlighting the struggle of these marine animals and urging year round responsible action. So I guess it ties in nicely to talking about a reuse for our disposable mask, because I'm sure, like me, you can cast your mind back to those days of COVID where you just see them everywhere in the gutter, on the side of the road, falling out of people's bins. We were encouraged wherever possible before throwing them out to cut the loops so that they would wouldn't be an entanglement issue if they did find themselves in the wrong place. But it's good news today to hear that somebody's come up with a really great idea of how to repurpose and reuse them and turn them into something else. Today is also Fresh Veggies Day, So how are you all going with the goal of trying to hit thirty different fruit, veggies and nuts and seeds in a week, you're getting anywhere close. Maybe if you're aiming for thirty and you hit fifteen, but you are only ever eating the same three veggies. That's one step forward. Let me know. It's also Fudge Day today, many believing that fudge actually originated as a bit of a mistake when a baker accidentally fudged a batch of caramels and came up with what we now know as fudge. It's a great gourmet creation after a mistake. Have you ever made something accidentally? One double three eight eighty two zero four double nine eight eighty eight eighty two. Also on this day in history, let's take a look back. While it was on this day in twenty fifteen that at that time Donald Trump announced to the world he'd run for president.

Ladies and gentlemen, I am offacially running for president of the United States, and we are going to make our country grade again.

Two years later, he was elected as the nation's forty fifth president. Yesterday, he celebrated his seventy ninth birthday with a military parade. Nineteen ninety four, Officeworks opened their very first store in Australia were being bombarded at the moment, aren't we with suggestions that maybe if you need some last minute tax deductions you can head on into office works in these last couple of weeks of June nineteen seventy eight, and it was on this day that the video game Space Invaders was released. That was definitely a sound of my youth, I will admit it. Space's Vaders, pac Man, Frogger, they're the three that come to mind, and straight away, Asteroids, Galactica there was another one, and all the ones that were on Galagha, that's right, Galaga, all the ones that were on the Atari sixty four, they're the ones that come straight to mind. That game. Though Space Invaders made three billion dollars in its first four years. It was nineteen seventy eight on this day that the movie Grease premiered in cinemas. You're not tempted to do the moves? Ash, do you know them? And of course starring Olivia Newton John and John Travolta are Sandy and Danny. Now, we were only talking about this last week because we had the living Newton. John is our highlight on Friday afternoon with Sean Sennett. So you know how last week I asked the question whether or not they're actually people who exist that don't have veggiemite in their house, and we did have a couple of lists call to say that they don't like vegimite and there was no veggimite in their house. Is there anybody who has not seen the movie Grease and has managed to live their entire life? Well, Harry, you haven't lived here. I'm talking about people who were around when Greece came out, or were a kid when Grease came out? Why haven't you watched Greece?

See?

I blame your mother. She should absolutely have made sure that you would watch Greece. You've seen dirty Dancing, flash Dance, just not Grease. Okay, well there you go, somebody one double three eighty two is the open line number if there's someone else who who hasn't seen the movie nine eighteen eighty four. It was on this day the world's first rollercoaster opened in New York eighteen eighty four. Hey, that would have been a rickety wooden job. Twenty sixteen, On this day, the earworm of a song was uploaded to YouTube.

Shaky Baby checked it, Baby checked, baby.

Shake, Mommy shark do do do do doo? Mommy shok do do do do doo. Mommy shok do do do do Mommy shake. Okay, have I just given everybody that? Now that's the earworm for today. Can you believe that baby Shark Dance video has been played fifteen billion times on YouTube, making it one of the most watched videos of all time. And on this day in two thousand and two, a remixed version of Elvis Presley's nineteen sixty eight single A Little Less Conversation hit number one. It was part of a push by his estate to snatch the UK record for most chart toppers from the Beatles. At the time, Elvis Presley has had a total of twenty one versus the Beatles at eighteen. It's just some of what happened on this day, the sixteenth of June.

And now on afternoons it's time to find out what's making news.

Yeah, well, a couple of things. Obviously, we've all been shivering through a winter every weekend. There is good news on the horizon. The Bureau of Meteorology is now forecasting that these minimum temperatures should start to move back towards average across most of the state starting tomorrow. Much of the Wide Bay and coastal parts of the Capricornia region are also going to see a slightly warmed trend. However, I will also warn that the Darling Downs and the Granite Belt, we're told we'll still be looking at having cooler mornings ranging between three and seven degrees celsius. As for the clear blue skies that we've been enjoying, forecasters say that cloud and showers will start to develop, particularly to the north, where minimum temperatures are going to hover around the mid to late teens from tomorrow. The reason for the cooler temperatures was a front that brought in southerly winds and some Antarctic air from the south, so it really was Chilean. If you're suffering in the cold, get ready to feel a little more comfortable. We have our warmer week on the way for us, and I'll keep you updated with the weather throughout the course of the afternoon. Get your take on what we're learning today from the Education Minister that more children are starting school with poor emotional regulation and social skills than any other year since the record of this kind of measure began back in two thousand and nine and the Education Minister, Federal Education Minister Jason Clair is putting it down to the impact that the COVID pandemic had on young kids. So the Australian Early Development Census is done every three years and it's a lot of kids. They surveyed close to two hundred and ninety thousand children in their first year of full time schooling. They also spoke to sixteen thy seven hundred teachers across the nation and this was measured and looking at a child's development in five domains, one being physical health, two social competence, three emotional maturity, four language and cognitive skills and five communication skills and their general knowledge. So the census showed that across the country, in the Northern Territory they start school with a development disadvantage compared to other states. Forty point eight percent of Northern Territory kids facing a significant challenge in at least one of those five key domains. In Queensland twenty five point four percent, so a quarter of kids have a significant challenge in at least one of those areas that I mentioned. Kids were more vulnerable than ever when it came to social competence and emotional maturity. One in ten students experiencing several challenges getting along with children, taking responsibility for their actions, being able to follow basic class rules, as well as regulating emotions, including being prone to aggression, disobedience, inattention, and impulsivity. So as adults, you know, you listen to that. I read this today and I just thought to myself, well, there's sort of a bit of a confluence of a few different things that I think are intersecting here. And to be honest, I think it's kind of lazy to blame the COVID pandem on everything, because while the COVID pandemic may have taken kids out of the traditional classroom for a period of time, it also was an opportunity to be able to have them be engaged with other areas. Parents did a great job in many cases of using that time to be well engaged with their children. But if you took the kids out of the classroom and you did little or nothing to engage them either inside the household or perhaps with neighbors where possible, then of course those children would end up having some issues when it comes to being able to communicate and have relationships with others. Comes back to I think the same thing that I said to Bill when the pylon was happening today across the board. After that, that piece of research came out to suggest that gen Z's aren't as competent as generations that have gone by. And what's the reason for that? Well, isn't it all come down to parenting. At the end of the day, kids only learn what they are either taught or what they see. So I think we probably need to be shining magnifying glass a little bit more on the parents of the kids than just the kids inside the classroom. But I'd really love to get your take on it. If you've noticed this yourself, maybe you're a teacher or just you know, working with children in some capacity. Maybe you see the difference with your grandkids and your kids and the way that they spend time one double three eight eighty two texts zero four double nine eight eighty eight eighty two or send through a text to Afternoons at four BC dot com dot AU, because I can guarantee you if we don't start addressing these issues with these kids who are in their first year of full time schooling now where a quarter of them are dealing with these issues. We're going to be talking about this generation like we are Gen Z, only ten times worse. Just off the back of sharing that information about the development vulnerability, we're being told about kids starting school and that here in Queensland it was sitting at twenty five point four percent of kids having some issue in one of these development delays, whether it be physical, social, emotional, their col not even language skills or communication skills. Steve's on the line from Kingston. Good afternoon, Steve, Nice to talk to you.

Hi, Sae. Always loving the show.

Thank you.

Yeah, it's kids I'm peaking that make their parents while they're young, giving them the the iPad former time when the around probe at home as well.

Yeah, I think, Look, there's definitely something in that, for sure, Steve. We know that, you know, parents are time poor, We know that often they're trying to juggle two or three things at the same time, and we know that absolutely with toddlers, it's a really easy way to keep them still. We've all seen it, and I'm sure that there are some people who've also used it in that way. And look, I think partly having these conversations is just a bit of a reminder that they shouldn't be, you know, the crux that you use the entire time, and with us I think it was probably TV, but even that was different. It's a different kind of engagement to a tablet or an iPhone. I just notice it now more when you think there could be engagement that's happening, you know, like when a little one is sitting in a trolley and the shopping is being done and they're on an iPad or a phone and the mum or the dad or both of their shopping and I think to myself, isn't that a time when you can actually be talking to them about stuff? You know. It's interesting, Steve, because I think it's so easy for us to fall into that trap where you feel like, you know, you're the next generation up, and you try to look back at things and with a little wisdom of the things that you would have done differently, the things you may have changed in your own journey. But you can also identify how quickly that time passes. They're only little for such a short time, aren't they.

Yeah, Mabe hard to get out of that tree, just the switch things of things and talk to the kid.

Yeah, Yeah. Like I said, I'm sure it's because they're all they're always busy and they've got stuff to do. But I think there is definitely too often it's used as that crux when it could actually be an opportunity to engage. Thanks Steve, really appreciate you jumping on today. Nice to talk to you. Anyone else who would like to weigh in on that one give us a call on one double three, eight eighty two or text zero four double nine eight eighty eight eighty two. You know, I think that there is a time and a place for everything, but we know that it becomes a huge issue, and experts have been telling us now for years. I found it so fascinating to think that the very people who have been responsible for the invention and the contribution of so much technology technology to our lives have never let their own children use it because they know, I guess some of the detrimen We hear about it all the time. Every now and then we see another documentary or another piece of research evidence to come out to sort of question whether or not particularly very small children need to be exposed to this stuff at all, And families can find themselves in a situation where it's just easier to put a device into their hands than it is to deal with the consequences of not doing it. What we might also be seeing, though Education Minister Jason Clare, who's putting down the impact of COVID on these young kids having developmental delays, is I would have thought that'd be right up there if the COVID pandemic had an influence on our young children. Surely the amount of time that this generation is spending in front of small screens where they're also getting these hits of dope. And because even for toddlers, we know that the tablet and the iPad are set up to be able to play little games that give them those instant rewards, sparkly rainbows after they reach a new level, whatever it might be, and that there isn't the same sort of sensory engagement that they do with being engaged with the real world and with what is happening around them. You know, they're holding something so it's tactile, but it's really close to their face. We know that that's going to have implications not only to their brain development, but their eyesight as well. How much time is too much time before you have issues of having digital eyes strain, let alone the social implications that are now showing up in a study like the one I just mentioned to you, where there's issues with them being able to communicate and not having emotional maturity. That happens when you have engagement with other people, and it can be other little people, but it's other people full stop, and having your power parents communicate with you, or your care or communicate with you. I think what we're also seeing too much of, and I know that anecdotally you will either be guilty of this or you will have seen it, is that you see kids on their phones and parents sitting beside them on their phones, whether they're two, twelve or twenty. It just seems to be the way we're living at the moment, and the only way we change that is if we become really conscious of it. Let's get some of your feedback, in particular over what I shared with you about children starting school developmentally vulnerable and the Education Minister putting it down to the impact of COVID on young kids. I'm just finding it hard to wrap my head around that as a reason for it. We're talking about the first year of full time schooling, which means if it's a survey that's been done on kids now, they're in prep or grade one. So let's for argument sake said that say they're around the age of five or six, which means these children were babies and toddlers during the time of COVID. So Eric, I get your text and I'll share it with the listeners. But I don't think these children will have been old enough to understand what was going on at the time. Eric from Warreck says, Hi, Sophie, I don't think the extra use of iPads, et cetera was the only factor in a young child's development during COVID. The greater damage was also the way the government handled the whole situation. Kids were scared that they were going to die. They couldn't go to grandma's house, no birthday parties, lockdown after lockdown, daily death reports. The young minds and emotions completely confused in damage. And I hear you, and I do agree that for some kids who were old enough to understand the implications of what was happening, there was absolutely an impact. But these children that we're talking about, this two hundred and ninety thousand kids in their first full time year of schooling. I would challenge that they were emotionally mature enough or even old enough to understand any of those things that you've mentioned, But certainly older children at the time were they were directly impacted. There's no doubt about that. Steve says, Hey, so I have a bone to pick with you. I cannot stop singing baby shark. That ere worm is just not to go away. You're right, Steve, it's not going to go away, and I'm trying really hard to not have it infiltrate my head AND's on the line this afternoon from Ipswich your dad, Anne.

Yes, Look, I've been a dad for a single dad for or twenty two years, almost twenty two years now. My youngest was one when his mother left, and then I had three above him up until the age they were or four, but one went with his mum for this excuse of COVID. I have a lot of words I could use for that. The minister needs to go and bang his head on a wall and wake up. This problem with children and education has been declining for twenty five years. Look, I'm not going to do there's a lot of teachers. I'm not going to do favors for his Druly, some of the notes that were sent home from school, they couldn't even spell. You speak with them, their their grammar is not right. You can't teach children. You can't give children's skills if you haven't got the skills. There's a lot of parents on phone. I've seen parents now. I live in Ipswich. I've worked both as a legal practitioner and I've worked security and in both industries. You see parents go shopping with three important kids. Each kid has got a device that's their literacy is from security industry. I met a lot of the young people that we had to decay for shop theft and violence in retail, and their literacy and numeracy is shopping. But give them, give them a phone, and they can do what they want. They can find things we need. The school system needs to go back to the foundation. You can't build a house without found the same with children. They've got to have literacy and numeracy right from the word goo.

Yeah, well said Ian, and you know you've lived it, you've seen it. I think this is part of the issue that we've got even as kids get older, you know. I then extrapolate this conversation to the ones that we're talking about our kids, and you've got a twenty two year old minor in that age group as well. You know, therein lies the rub. If we've let them down as parents, I think we need to also be owning that, you know, they have grown up in the environment that we have allowed for them, whether they're the Gen z's or they're these that we're talking about now that the Alpha generation. If we don't identify this and we don't equip the parents to do those things that you're talking about, or to make it acceptable that you actually do step in and parent and do the hard stuff, then we're not going to change anything moving forward, I guess, is what I was trying to get to. You know, it's one thing to say, oh, yeah, the twenty year old can't you know, that can't cook. That's fine, but you're now talking about five year olds that don't know how to communicate with one another and a prone to aggression, maybe because they've you know, they've had that constant gaming reward. You know, I can get what I want. Aren't we going to be saying the same thing now in ten or fifteen years time when they're the twenty year old.

Yeah, Well the problem I it's the whole education system, both parents and school. Now, when I was in school, I'm sixty six. Now, if you had a kid that now they label ady, HDIs birds or special, we were treated normal.

I was. I was one of those.

My teacher reconed I was a total little ah. But we came out as an education. We were leaving coming out of primary into high school with a better education than a lot of year twelves leave with. Now that's a serious thing. Yeah, and stop treating the kids with special needs special. Stop using mental health as bloody excuse for everything. Little Johnny's naughty because he's got mental health issues. Now, little Johnny's naughty because he hasn't got the right discipline, the right structure, and the correct guides in life and mentors.

Good on you, Anne, Nice to talk to you this afternoon. Anyone else who'd like to jump in on it? You know what to do, like Ian, pick up the phone one double three eight eighty two, or you can text zero four double nine eight eighty eight eighty two. Sure, he says, Hi, Sophie, hope you and the team are well. Well we are, Cherie, Although I have to say, Karla. Like many people, she's fighting her head cold, but it hasn't stopped her. She's here today and she'll be bringing us entertainment. A little bit later, she says, on Saturday, I was having a Kappa after shopping and at the table next to me was a family. There were two adults and three kids, all five, she says, including the adults were on their phones the whole time, no conversation. I felt sad, enjoy this RiPP a winter day in Brisbane. Thank you, and yeah, as I said, I'm sure that that's not something that is surprising for anyone to hear, because I think we've all observed it in some way, shape or form. After the break will be joined by Finance today. There's plenty going on in that world, so we'll bring all of that news to you next. I'm just wondering whether or not we need to revisit with someone, you know, I had David Gillespie on a couple of years ago, when, not long after he had written his book Brain Reset, he'd done such a deep dive and so much research into understanding what was going on inside your brain when it comes to exposure, particularly young exposure to devices. You know, to me, it thumbs up text if you think that revisiting that kind of a conversation might be a really good idea, because again, it just gives parents maybe the information they need or cares or grandparents to be able to just have that conversation. Again, let's get to some of your texts just on this before we head to finance. And there were so many that came through. Barb says her grandson has just turned six and has had speech delays that requires speech therapy around the age of two and three. She says during COVID he couldn't see how people were speaking because of the mandatory mask wearing in child care and Canberra parents' essential workers, so obviously they had to keep working.

She said.

Lots of kids lived in fear as parents were fearful. COVID managed badly based on fear and little evidence. We need a royal commission on how we can do better next time. Yes, that I agree with one thousand percent. Bub I worry greatly that we've learned very little from what we went through. Jason says. We did home economics at school, we were taught how to cook. Yes, Jason, I was in that boat with you. I was spent a lot of time in the kitchen with my mom and my grandmom, and I think that made a massive amount of difference. I think just that invitation to understand where your food comes from and why you eat. Most kids are taught, you know, to eat, but never really understand the importance of why they need to or what it is that they're eating and how that impacts their bodies. Maybe it's just some of those back to basics as Ian was saying too. Matt says, neurodivergent child isn't developed disabled, They're just different abilities and sometimes the rigid structure of school needs to bend a little to accommodate. Rather than screens, give a kit a ball and some space, let their energies and silliness out so they can then sit and learn. Who knows, maybe we can share using the ball with friends and make connections that way. The options are endless, just need to be explored. Yeah, a little red rover, you reckon something like that, Steve says. Nowadays it's always someone else's fault. Everyone wants to own or take Nobody wants to own or take responsibility for their actions. He says, it's always someone else's fault. It's too hard. Someone else is responsible for that too. Nobody likes to take ownership for their life. Thanks Steve, lovely to hear from you all. Keep those texts coming in. Let's get into some finance. On four BC afternoon, it's still Finance Report and our economic futurist host of the podcast Exchanges with Evan Lucas, is joining us for the very latest in finance. Happy new week to you, Evan.

Happy new week to you. So if you followed them having some fantastic technical difficulty.

Though it happens, no worries. We've got you. And that's the main thing I wanted to ask you a little bit about ASSEX. So the Australian Securities Investment Commission has launched and a formal inquiry into the ASX. They're citing repeated and serious failures when it comes to governance, capability and risk management. When I saw that as a headline, I thought, well, that can't be a good thing.

No, and this has been coming so they have been threatening the AX for I would argue eighteen months almost like when the first issue happened around basically at the moment the biggest problem is that we know that ASIC is really concerned about the basically the transfer from the old aging Chess system, which is basically the clearing system for you know, if you buy shares, there's a system in the background to make sure that you sold them to me, that they go out of your system and into my system, et cetera, et cetera. There was originally the idea they would use blockchain technology saying stuff that's face out of things like crip so currency that went by the wayside when it didn't work. The system is still having massive technical issues, and then the ongoing concern to actually create and maintain a stable and maintainable overall market every day. I mean, this gets really technical. It's about the depth, what we call the depth. So there's buyers and sellers that being maintained, is there always access to information? Is the pricing correct? All this stuff has been going on the background. ATIC has been getting quite sort of narky with it, and today I think is actually the final straw and watching what you know Joe Longo has basically said is that finally he's they've all said there over it. We're now going to actually launch a full investigation into whether or not ASX and the head of the AX is doing this properly and whether or not basically there is there's almost a suggestion here does the ASX have to be not just panelized but also possibly you know, run in a conjunction manner with the Reserve Bank of Australian Is it with other players? This is it's a big day in our world because who would have thought that the actual runner of the exchange would now be at the mercy of the regulator.

It's interesting. Two things come to mind straight away. One, as per usual, how do we allow things to get to this place before something was done about it? And two will there potentially be any impact for investors and for the market more broadly so.

In terms of investors not yet we know investors have however, been impacted by the issues, particularly saw at the end of last year where leading into Christmas there was a proper glitch like there was almost a point where trades couldn't be settled. And therefore, let's say again, let's use the example of you and me trading I had bought off you, they the settlement might not have happened, So therefore my ownership isn't in the system and I could therefore not take advantage of being able to sell them. Let's say tomorrow all the day after is the best way sort of go to you on it. That got very close leading into Christmas that that situation almost eventuated, so that would be a problem. It also opens up to the idea that more and more providers need to be given. So the ASEX is not the only market making provider for the ax as in the actual the actual market itself. Chai X was the first one in there are other players out there. This will give Asset that biggest stick to turn around and say you cannot just be a monopoly player. We can't have a monopoly because clearly our major provider is not necessarily up to scratch in their view. So all that brings about I mean again, the as Sex has been through a very interesting fifteen twenty years. If you can remember all the way back I think it was two thousand and I want to say eleven twelve. You know, Singapore came along and was looking at basically taking it over and doing a mega exchange between Singapore and Australia, who was not backed on foreign purchasing rules sort of all sorts of others sort of slightly things. So the idea of actually merging with another exchange is off. So the AFX has been allowed to sort of move along as it has because it knows it can't be taken over. There's a domestic security inverted Commas requirement behind it. It's a very very interesting conundrum right now.

And then again, I guess I'm staying on the ASX and the markets because we're sort of looking at what's happening in the Middle East now and the broadening of that conflict, and everyone's attention turns, you know, of course to the human toll and what happens geopolitically. But we will also see some changes to oil prices, no doubt.

Yeah, so we've already seen them. We saw a big, big jump on Friday night. At one point it was up over ten percent. The impacts overall are near term. We are going to see a spike that is, given how long it holds, there will be again up for debate. I mean, we can actually use recent distance for the history. So we saw April, May and October last year similar ish events. There was an initial spike, but then the longer term impact on oil petered out. Will this time be different? Well, it always possibly could be. It's clearly got much much more involved this time around. The impact on Australian investors here or are probably motorists is a better point. There are some forecasts in the idea that we could see one hundred usls and barrel in the next three to five months. If it goes on longer than expected, that would probably mean rule of thumb, it could be as high as a dollar thirty five a dollar forty for standard unlettered, So that would be the bigger impact in terms of the horrible events going on in mid least hasn't happened each time this is fled up, So touchwood. We can find a geopolitical, negotiated, diplomatic solution that brings oil back down, But yeah, there is risk there.

How are the markets dealing with things today?

So, I mean, as you'd expect, they're not exactly enjoying what's going on, but not as bad as what was originally forecasting. So right now we're actually dead flat. In fact we speak, they've just popped into the green so they were pointing down twenty points. We are trying to work out how long this will go and where we'll fall out to.

All right, keep an eye for us. We'll have another dive into it all tomorrow. Thanks Evan, and in the meantime, you can keep an eye out for more of Evan's work by checking out his podcast, it's called Exchanges with Evan Lucas. I just wanted to make mention for our listeners in particular in Rockhampton on four Row this afternoon that emergency crews have rushed to a cattle truck roll over just south of Beila Wheela this morning. It's about one hundred and forty clicks south of Rockhampton. Sadly, authority say that some of that livestock there are expected to have to be put down. The crash happened just after eight thirty am. There were no serious injuries, but as I said, some of the cattle will likely need to be euthanized. That road at the moment remains open and traffic isn't affected. There's one fire crew that has also been sent to the scene. We'll keep you updated on the news as it unfolds live and local, both here in Southeast Queensland and for our list in Rockhampton on four ro it's four minutes to two one, and it's lovely to have your company kicking off the week together. Russ. Good to know your home. Russ sent me and to say he's been in hospital, but now he's home and he's listening. I hope all's good. Two thumbs up for you, Ron says, Hi, so for your highlighting how amazing my wife is. More and more she used her PhD and researched how kids can learn to regulate their emotions by having a half hour with no tech rest time after lunch, he says. Now both my kids can do jobs in the morning and don't need tech to get through the day. This is it, Ron. You know, we're going to look back at this time and we're going to be wondering how we allowed things to run out of control the way that they are, and we've kind of made apologies for it. People are busy, kids don't have concentration issues like all of those things. But you know, I think most of us can take a step back like you and your wife had and realize that at the end of the day, it comes down to regulation and then you see a difference in behavior as well. Stay with us on four PC Afternoons, we're going to talk about upcycling face masks, the disposable face masks after the one o'clock news headlines this is happening out of a Queensland university and they're being upcycled and put to great use instead of being in landfill where so many ended up. News is coming up next. It's the one o'clock hour of Afternoons on this gorgeous Monday afternoon, and we're turning our attention to disposable face masks and whether or not they now have another use. Also later in the program an opportunity for a lucky listener to pick up a couple of tickets to go along and see the Broncos. This weekend, we will remind ourselves of what happened yesterday it was World Elder Abuse Awareness Day. Today we will talk to somebody in the industry of what we need to be aware of, knowing that it can take many forms. Paul Gover's with us. We'll turn our attention to motoring in about half an hour, plenty of time for you to have your questions answered, and we'll head into the world of entertainment. Karla Binnyaska will join us. With the latest in the entertainment world. All of that and plenty more on Afternoons.

And now on full BC and network stations across Australia Afternoons with Sophie for My Car.

Yeah, before we turn our attention to what we can do with disposable masks as a potential upcycle, we know also of the weekend you might have seen this in the news that scientists in Japan have created a new plastic that dissolves in seawater within ours, potentially offering at least partly a solution to our ongoing plastic pollution problem, particularly in the ocean, and the harm that it can do to wildlife into ecosystems. This is a biodegradable plastic. It's been the subject of scientific experimentation for a really long time, and now these researchers at the Reconcenter of Emergent Matter Science and the University of Tokyo have said that their new material will degrade much faster and leaves absolutely no trace. So at this lab, the team have now demonstrated how a small police piece of plastic disappeared in a container of saltwater after it was stirred for about an hour Now, the team hasn't yet detailed how they might be able to commercialize this research, but they've certainly had plenty of interest in it, including obviously from the packaging sent sector. Scientists globally are actively working to develop innovative solutions when it comes to the escalating plastic waste crisis that we have right across the world.

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Well, we all remember how face masks became a part of our everyday life during the pandemic, But what we talked about a lot less is where many of them ended up. And since COVID first began, just for the use of COVID, we saw about nine hundred and fifty billion disposable masks used. Now that equates to a three point eight million tons of waste. Most of that just thrown out and put into landfill. Some would have been incinerated. Both options are bad news for the planet, and we know that they just don't break down, particularly if they've ended up in plastic bags. I mean this idea of the things that biot a grade when they end up in landfill is just nonsense, and they also release toxic gases in the process into the air. So there was this idea of turning these old masks into something useful. Professor Pingang's song from the University of Southern Queensland is doing exactly that, turning those gross used face masks into parts that could be in your next iPhone smartphone. It's not just recycling, it's upcycling. Professor songs joining us on afternoons. Good afternoon to your.

Professor Yafia King Ansung.

Yeah, a professor from what university?

A star in Queensland.

Okay, I'd love you to tell us how you came up with this idea of turning disposable face masks into a high tech film that can be used inside technology.

Yes, yeah, because yeahs ours uh as a competitive you can listening.

Listening is better yea.

Our vitia is to convert to them the West mask into high performance polymer.

Other countries that have that have the.

Metal like them, conductivity and the ability to share them. The Legato magnetic inference and so leg legator device and preceding equipment.

So what kind of electronic devices could benefit from this kind of upcycled material this film that you can make out of the disposable face mask.

Yeah, because yeah, as as imagine our matures from the Western mask has a metal like them conductivity, so the conductivity can can transpart the heat, get a ratchet up by s mootophone and how you delight to to action sourroundings.

So that's how that.

Can't help cool the amotophones.

So at the same time.

Yet no, I no, it's just going to say so if you've ended up with a film because it has the same property as a graphite or a metal, I guess the question then is are we going to be able to commercialize this technology? Can you take the way that you have been able to figure this out from using your ability to turn the mask into the film that is able to be used inside an electronic device. Can you see that there's a way to scale this up so it can be used commercially.

Yes, I'm I'm a comfort pretty competent because our solution it's pretty pretty simple because you jucket the surf washing flying the ft mark. After that we will just do the the treatment followed up by the holo prase, so you're to treat it simple for the genusquit to adopt this technology to produce these high performance polymer nincom bride.

I will ask you Professor's song, do you want us all to collect our face masks and bring them to you? Where are you getting them from?

Yeah? Because out of the moment, so we are lab just the hazard Campecity judge them through a couple of them, maybe one hundred grammars of the resum. But we cannot handle for your killos our even one hundred kill our wet and masks because you know we at the moment that we can do the level scale.

Production, well we hope that, we hope that that's what's going to happen next. Professor's song. Thank you so much for jumping on and for explaining as best we can understand the ability to be able to take what we thought was something that would go into the bin and be able to re use it, to turn it in to a piece of metal film that might be able to be used inside technology and fingers crossed Professor song, you guys find a way to be able to commercialize it, to scale it up. The less that goes into landfill, the better. All the very best to you, Yeah, thank you you're welcome. Yeah, I think we kind of got the gist there that what we're after is taking the materials they are able to melt them down, press them and turn them into a conductor and then use them inside a technological device wonderbull three eight eighty two, or you can also take zero four double nine eight eight eight eighty two. This afternoon, we have got ideas of other things to do with bidegradable plastic bags and things that have come through to me, so I'll share some more of that feedback with you as well this afternoon. All right, So just to recap for those of you who've sent questions through, just some clarity there of how this works. The researchers developed a new technique that would break down disposable face masks to be able to transform them into a opponent for an electrotronic device like the ones that you would use in a smartphone or an aled light. So the collaboration that happened between the professor at the University of Southern Queensland we just spoke to, and some academics in China actually converted these single use masks that we're all well aware of into a film into a really thin film that's capable of cooling electronic devices, And what they're hoping is that this is a recycled, upcycled product that would offer a cost effective and sustainable alternative to using other things like a metal or a graphite. They're the things that are commonly used to prevent a device from overheating. We all know what it's like when our phone gets too hot. So with the billions of used face masks that were discarded and continue to be used, you know, we might not be using them on a day to day basis, but we know we're still seeing more masks used than ever before, and there is always going to be a medical component to this. I was mentioning to Bill earlier that on the weekend on Saturday, I went and I gave blood, and I again just sort of for the first time, had that moment where I was exposed to sort of the absolute game changer that single use plastic has been in terms of medicine and what it's been able to do for us as people who can benefit from the health benefits of having something that is sterile, right, and how it's changed the world. But that all of that stuff ends up going into a bin somewhere, So they've got these face masks now, and they found the ones that you know obviously were able to be used, and they think that if they can upscale this disposal method, it would mean that these masks don't go into landfill, or at least reduce the volume that goes into landfill. So the commercialization hope is definitely there. And this new technique can recycle almost all of the components of a disposable face mask to create these materials for smartphones, LEDs, and other electronic devices. The process involves washing and drying the masks, applying a graphine solution, and then pressing them on a hot plate to create a nanocomposite film. And the study was published in Nano micro Letters that found that this regenerated nanocomposite film possesses this metal like electromagnetic shielding and thermo conductivity property, and that was what the professor was alluding to there that they realized that you could turn it into this metal like film, this substance that would be able to conduct heat. And the researchers proposed that this film could effectively isolate electromagnetic radiation and reduce signal interference in electronics, so the applications could therefore be quite broad. And I will say that Queensland Environment and Science Minister Andrew Powell, friend to Afternoons, has confirmed that the government is working with industry and local government to reduce the amount of rubbish that's going into landfill. So this would just be one of the many ways that that could happen. We'll never know. I guess we'll wait and see.

Live and Local on Brisbane's four BC. This is after the news.

Jeff says, Hi, Sophie Woolly's has buied agradable plastic bags. I just wish they didn't buy a degrade before I got them home. Jeff, I get what you're saying. I know, and the conversation has long been had about the quality or lack thereof, of the paper bag that is available to us. It reminds me of two things though. When I was a kid, and many of you will know this, when you went to Coals or Woolies and you got your groceries, they were in paper bags that didn't even have handles. Do you remember that they had like a jaggedy top. They and the packer used to stand at the bottom and they would open up the bottom and you put your groceries in and then you'd have to carry them from underneath, and you could carry maybe two bags and one arm, one bag and the other. So I go back to let's worry about changing human behavior. So Jeff, riddle me this and send me another text. If you don't want to talk, why don't you take your own bags to woolies? Because that just not a habit you've been able to grab a hold of that. You take your bag in one of the more robust ones. If you need some, Jeff, shoot me your address. I've got a heap. I'll send you a couple. My gift to you. Ron says, there's no apologies for what has happened to kids these days. We've turned them into commodities. This is going back to the conversation we've been having about children and this survey that was done. It's done every three years to so that they're just not dealing with things. In a lot of cases, twenty five percent of them falling under one of these current categories of having challenges. He says, we've turned them into commodities, not people, and there's no way to turn back time. Unfortunately, just deal with the consequences of our selfish actions as parents. Keep up the great work. Thanks Ron, I'll do my best.

This is Sophie for Mica on PC.

Complete change of pace here. There was a really cute surprise for some residents in Redcliffe and if you're listening from there or you were there on the weekend and you spotted this little seal sun baking on the pontoon in Newport, I would love to hear from you this afternoon. Staff from Eye License, which is a local boat and jet ski training business, found this little seal while they were out on the water and they shared the video on social media. They called it a rare and cute surprise. Now it's really not unheard of to see seals in Queensland, particularly during the cooler months. The species like the sub Antarctic fur seal, the New Zealand fur seal, the Aussie fur seal, even leopard seals can turn up occasionally. Locals reckon that they've seen one around this time of the year before. There was a little concern because this seal did appear to have sort of some sort of byte mark on them, maybe a shark little bite wound. Good news though the team from SeaWorld came to the rescue and they came to collect the seal. They've taken it back down and they'll make sure that it gets checked out thoroughly. Over the years, seals have been spotted from Morton Bay to the Sunshine and Gold Coasts. Back in twenty twenty three, there was even a young little seal that was stuck at Lake Or and if you know Lake Or you'll know it's also home to bull sharks. That one had to be rescued. In twenty eighteen, there was another one seen just chilling just in the sun, having a bit of a relax off the Redcliff Lagoon area. I will say this a little reminder for everybody if you do see one, don't get too close. If you spot a seal on land or on the water, if you're in the boat or whatever, by law, yeah, don't try and padded ash none of that. By law, you have to stay forty meters back. And if you get caught doing the wrong thing with a seal in any way, you could face a fine of seventeen two hundred and fifty dollars. It's one of those random, weird outlier fines, you know. We we do things that are so awful to humans and like, yeah, it's barely anything. Go near a seal. Just get too close to seal seventeen thousand bucks, thanks very much. I don't know if anyone has ever been charged with that. I don't know whether or not those records exist. You'd have to be pretty unlucky. I saw some in the wild the last time we were down in New Zealand, and they had just gorgeous and they're so friendly looking that I can understand why people think they might be able to just go over and give it a little bit of a pat not a good idea, stay well away. So this little guy's ended up down at Seatworld, so hopefully he's being looked after. And if you were there on the weekend and you saw it, let me know wonderful three eight eighty two. Now we're going to be going into the world of motoring after the one thirty news headline. So I won't labor on this story because I know that both Bill and Pete talked about it on their programs today. But you can't help but wonder what's going on when it comes to truck's hitting bridges and the reason we're talking about it is because now we've got some statistics to share with you, and inexperienced truck drivers and inadequate GPS systems largely being blamed for the spade of bridge collisions that we've seen around the southeast already this year. There've been one hundred and twenty four rail strikes in twenty twenty four. There were three hundred ninety eight a bridge and protected beam strikes in twenty twenty three, three hundred and sixty three. So you know, though, that's not too dissimilar thirty thirty odd difference between twenty twenty three and twenty twenty four, and it would appear if we're sitting at one hundred and twenty four this year, unless something drastic happens, we'll see that number continue to climb. The Queensland Trucking Association CEO Gary marn As i mentioned, was on with Peter this morning on Breakfast and he explained it's a new wave of drivers that he thinks is behind this. Have a listen.

There are a lot more smaller VENs around these days because you've got a lot more Internet shopping home distribution. You know, those smaller four or five six vans doing all that distribution work to homes. There's a lot more of those around these days, and more often than not they're driven by less experienced drivers. That may well be an issue those vehicles when you have looking at and they've got plenty of warning signs on the dash, on the window. You know, there's reminders everywhere, but for a variety of reas they might be distracted by trying to do the job at hand. They make an assumption that they look up and they think, oh yeah, I'll be right. They don't show caution and we know the result.

Is so the Southeast most frequently struck bridges last financial year where a Logan Road and Veranda North Street, Willowburn, Bergen Street, beval Oxley Road, Corinda, the William Berry Drive connection at more Field. You know, if you have had time to sort of digest all of this and you would like to weigh in on the conversation, I'd love to hear from you one double three eight eighty two. If the technology is available and there is adequate training in place, you would think that we would see that number have to go down by natural attrition. Maybe there needs to be a blaring I don't know alarm. I don't think that we had spoken about this in the past when we had one of our experienced truck drivers call the last time we spoke about this and they were saying that there is a GPS, but you have to use that technology. You know, we have so much tech that is available to us now, it just seems nonsensickal to me that we still find ourselves in this situation unless the bridge bar. You know how there's the one that comes in before it, like the protection beam, and we know that the protection beams, but it's better if it strikes the protection beam than the actual bridge. So if we establish that, then why don't they put the protection beam even further away from the actual bridge so you have to hit that first, because if you have to hit that first, you're not getting as far as the rail bridge, which then becomes a problem for a much bigger problem. It's still a problem if you hit the protection bridge or that the GPS when you put it in, has a better way of identifying where there is potentially low overheads and stops you from being able to go another way. Look, I'm not a truck driver, clearly, but I know that there are many of you who are listening. Are we not doing driver training well enough? Is that an issue? Is if it's inexperienced drivers. Does there need to be an extra amount of work that needs to be done before you're allowed to get behind the wheel and even deliver in one of those smaller vans that Gary was talking about, the four, five or six ton van. Do you need to do more before you're allowed out on the road and you potentially don't know how tall you are. I never hit my head on anything, so I mean, I just can't imagine that this is still such a huge issue in twenty twenty five, when we have so much technology that's available to us. Does there need to be some other way that technology can be incorporated. I will ask Paul about this. He'll be with us just after the one thirty news headlines. There's actually a fair bit going on in the world of motoring at the moment, not just at the f one and not just how well our Australian drivers are doing overseas, but plenty of other things, including the fact that we are seeing some changes from July one when it comes to registration and fines in Queensland. So we'll get into all of that with Paul and talk a little bit more about railbridge collision after the one thirty news headlines coming up next. Jeff and I communicating about the bag situation at Woolies via text. Well, I'm talking and he's texting. He says, well, Sophia, I've got a Sophia with an A. I do take my own bags to Woolies, but I use the self check out and you need to take all the fruit and veggies out to weigh them. It's easy with plastic bags, Jeff. Jeff, Okay, I've got another solution for you. You can use the reusable fruit and veggie bags as a little You can buy them a little pack three five different sizes, so you put your beans in. I mean most of the stuff I just you know, grab for apples. But you could use those, Jeff, the reusable fruit and vege bags, and then you unpack them and then just put them back in the bags you take to Woolies. Would you give that a shot? Thumbs up or thumbs down? Jeff? Let me know.

Yeah.

Now on afternoons, it's Motoring Monday, as we ask.

For the experts, and the experts with us. Paul go a good afternoon to you, Good afternoon to you.

I have some lovely bags, Hessian bags that I bought when I was in England once and I leave that one other in the car all the time. That's what I do for the trapping center.

Yeah.

But because I'm a single person not a family of ten, I can. I only have to pick up one apple or two ps, so it's not too bad buying this stuff.

I still dream of I want to be that person who goes to get all of their fruit and veg at the markets. It just doesn't happen for me.

Sunday morning, that's the time when you should be out driving a nice car. That's true, And yes I was yesterday.

Yeah, because you're driving the new v dub Combi. Yes, Like does it look like the old because I think that the thing about a combe is, you know, you need to know it's a comby as soon as you look at it, So please tell me they haven't gone.

It looks it looks exactly like a Comby until you get close to it, and then you realize it's the fattest, biggest combie you've ever seen in your life. And I say that it was interesting on the weekend I ended up talking to a lady who owned a nice purply pinky, sort of colored Comby at a car show, And then yesterday morning I stopped to charge it up for a while and a guy turned up and the Comby he was driving was exactly the same color as the one I was driving. His was nineteen sixty eight. Mine was ninety thousand dollars.

Wow, that's not a cheap Comby.

No, no, but you know it looks good and it's got. He was looking to buy one to actually convert into a into a camp e van, and all he cared about was how big it was inside and how far the electric vehicle range.

So what does yours look like inside?

Well, the one I had was a five seedter, so it's just a van, a van with seats like every other, you know, those big people movie type vans. You can get a seven sea one or a five seed to one, and it is really big inside. But straight away you look at it and you just know that it's a Comby. Yeah, even though they call it the id Buzz.

Do you think this one's going to last forever?

No?

There are some people that I know I've got, like the beautiful old ones from the sixties that these people.

On the weekend y yeah, yeah, yeah. Well the ones from the early ones what they call are splitty because they have the split window in the front and then the windows pop out, and I think I think they're called like a nineteen window, a twenty one window one. Jamie Oliver had one of those and he spent over one hundred thousand pounds on it, you know, so they are classically collectible but still dreadfully slow.

Okay, there are things I need to talk to you about. Let's go to the bridges first, and the statistics that I just shared and the conversation this morning that happened on breakfast with the Queensland Trucking Association CEO to say that we've got inexperienced drivers. There are smaller vans on the road, there's small events, but they're still high enough obviously to be an issue when it comes to.

Overhead gantries and things.

Yep, what do you think we aren't looking at here?

What we aren't looking at the level of stupidity on the road, Sophie. The fact of the matter is, if you're driving a truck and you come up to a bridge, you should at least think about it. All this stuff about oh the GPS took me the wrong w No. At the end of the day, you have a mark one human eyeball. They come into pair in the front of your head.

That's the thing, and they should both be functioning if you're behind the wheel of a truck.

Correct. But the other thing is he's right in one way that there are more and more of these smaller trucks, and the ones that you see the most of are Woolli's and coal's delivery trucks right that size. But you can drive them on a car license, and so people drive like they're driving a car. But having said that, that's.

Where I come down to basic education and training. Correct, If they just had compulsory training, and if part of the liability of making a mistake then maybe came with a penalty.

A big penalty that they advertise. But the other thing is when they go to pick this truck up, is there a checklist that they have to go now, don't forget da da da dah. And to give you some idea, imagine that you're picking the thing up and you're right in the idea of having those clangy things that they have in some underground car parks, you know, to let you know, but they could have a cleaning thing where you are picking the v up from the higher place. That will be because, if you think about it, if one of these things gets crashed, the higher company doesn't have the thing has to organize the repair. The single biggest penalty really is for the person that owns the truck. So if I was only one of those truck companies, I'd be getting an education thing for people who are going to hide these things. But at the end of the day, what's the line stupid is as stupid does. What can you do? You can raise the penalty, but also you need to publicize it, you know what I mean? And next time somebody hits somebody hits with one of these things, the police or some of those sort of people should call up the media outlet and go, did you know the fine is blah blah blah, so they can put it in to the story so people understand the penalty for doing it.

Can we turn our attention please to what happened this morning?

Yeah?

So Canadian Grand Prix yep. And I guess there was or this was in some ways anyone who's been watching Lando Norris and Oscar past and the rivalry between them. They run for the same team, like and the McLaren's have been performing so well all yeah, and they're competing against each other for the world championship. And they finally came together and there was I guess every race where they have been one, two or two and three people have been watching this. They've been told by their team whether they needed to let the other one go, you know, to be smart about it. This morning Lando decided just to get a little too cocky.

Yes. So the thing about it is when they're wearing one and two, they don't have any opposition. But in the race today the Mercedes Benz had the fastest car and George Russell won the race. You know, blah blah blah. So what happened this weekend is McLaren were on the back foot all weekend and they weren't competitive to win the race. Oscar Piastre did the grown up adult thing and went the best I can get. Today's fourth, So I'm going to.

Be fourth or as still in points still out correct?

Yeah correct. Lando started seventh and was trying to pull himself forward and just immaturity stupidity and immaturity, crashed into the back of Oscar. Didn't take Oscar out right. Oscar's just proceeded on and still came forth. He's written off the car and now he's wandering around going so I'm so sorry. I'm this is the turning point in the champion in the Formula One World Championship, because Lando has made a big mistake and all he's doing. If somebody else did that, who's stronger. Mentally, they just go, I'm made a mistake, Let's move on. He's been talking NonStop since the race finished about how bad it is and how I've got apologize and all that stuff. I think mentally, Oscar's now destroyed him because he went for a gap that wasn't there, and he's now realized that he's not good enough.

In the meantime, George Russell had his first podium win as you said he was. He took out poll and he just led the entire time. Max came second, and then little Kimmi Antonelli. Yeah, another Mercedes driver ended up on the podium for the first time. But yeah, eighteen can you believe that?

Yes?

I can these days because you've got to remember he's been driving since he was four and he's been a Mercedes Ben's junior driver since he was eleven, right, so he's been well and trolie green.

You know.

The other thing had happened on the weekend is Ferrari one at Lamont and Australia's Matt Campbell, who was racing a Porsche came second, which was good. So lots and lots of motorsporard on the weekend.

Shanevan Gisberg, I was bad to say, Ash, let me know that Shane did well.

Came what Yeah, and it means he's into the playoffs because you automatic qualify. He's also been put up for burnout of the year. This was in Mexico where they also raced Formula one and you couldn't see the car for the amount of tire smoke. Now, lots of greenies around the world, including some people I know, so this is terrible for the environment. My argument is the tiers are going to get junked anyway, so it doesn't matter if they turned to smoke.

Okay, next F one races Austria on my birthday, goodie.

Yeah, so the chance of Max winning there is very high. Max loves that place and remember last year who crashed into each other in maxim Land.

Here's form all right, first of July, there's going to be some changes happening to the roads in Queensland. Three point four percent increase in car registration and fines will also go up for Queenslanders from the first of July. We know that the former Lambor government had a freeze on those registrations and fines and that was set in place until September of twenty twenty five, so that's now scrapped. From July, fines are going to increase for speeding, mobile phone and seat belt violations. Speed limits are going to reduce in some areas, particularly tourists driven areas, from fifty kilometers an hour to forty kilometers.

An hour pointless. But anyway, reduced.

Speed limits are going to be implemented from the first of July in those areas of the Harvey Bay Esplenarde. And they've also said that a review of crash data from the last five years found there were forty repeated reported crashes on that esplanard involving nine pedestrians. So they're hoping that bringing down the price speed.

Yeah, I understand that in an area that's heavily pedestrian tracked. But the thing the police don't do is go and find people for walking out on the road looking at their mobile phone. Yeah, so it's you know, like a lot of these things, they go for the easy fix instead of looking at it's a social problem and we need to do sayings the truck thing. Oh, let's panelize these people. Now, hang on, who's driving the trucks? Why are they driving them? And what do they know when they drive the truck.

If you have a question this afternoon for Paul Gover, now is the time to either give us a call on one double three eight eighty two or shoot through a text to zero four double nine eight eighty eight eighty two if you're behind the keyboard and you need to email afternoons at four BC dot com dot au we will get to your questions and also have a bit of a chat about the high lux ute. After this break, Paul Gover is with us on Monday talking motoring as he does every week. Time now for your questions. As I said, if you'd like to speak to Paul one double three eight eighty two or keep the texts coming into zero four double nine, eight eighty eight eighty two. Paul, just before we get to the first question, I did want to ask you about Toyota and the CO two emissions rule for the new vehicles and how it might end AI. Yeah, how the question really is how it impacts the highluks, because we know it remains one of the most popular.

Yeah, basically anything it's big and heavy. So that's SUVs, pick up trucks, you know, land cruise and all that sort of stuff.

There.

Most of them are over the threshold for this NVIIS. But the thing about it is that companies average their whole vehicle emissions. Fleet doesn't apply to one particular vehicle. But what it's going to mean is the price of those vehicles will go up because there's going to be inevitably a penalty because they can't make the emission's number, which is what it's about. It's about trying to get people to buy greener cars and have carca, which is not going to work because people, you can punish them all you like, they're still going to buy what they want. So what will happen is they'll end up having to pay penalties to the federal government, and the price of those cars will go up. But when it's going to happen and how much it's going to affect a market buy, and nobody knows just yet.

Do you think the prices here are going to go down if the tariffs on cars that are built in China continue to be an issue to the US?

No?

Well, yeah, are they going to do now? You're going to say, are they going to dump more cars in Australia? Are or already dumping as many as they possibly can. Basically, the price situation is so competitive that some of the Chinese brands have not four and five thousand off recently on their vehicles to get them to sell. They are selling in huge numbers. I don't think the American situation is going to have any real effect in Australia because the fact is, for as long as I can remember, the Australian new car market is about one point one million vehicles a year and it's not going to jump up to two million dollars just two million a year just because they can bring them in for a certain say they were ten thousand dollars cheaper. You're not going to double the size of the market.

No, No, but there are more questions I think coming in from listeners about some of these brands that we don't know a lot about. So what's your opinion on the deeper.

Deeper deep Yeah, yeah, yeah, deeper deeper e ep Al.

Yeah.

So they're brought in by the same people that bring Suber into Australia, which means that they've got a little bit more credibility in terms of the dealer network and the distribution thing. They've been in Australia for precisely six months. What's going to be like in five years? I have no idea and I wouldn't buy. It's like saying there's a threshold with all these things. If you're going to go and buy a new TV. I'm researching TVs at the moment, So you go and look at brands that you've never heard of and say, Okay, they cost that much if it dies or it's terrible, how much money am I prepared to tear up? When it comes to a car, it's a lot more money involved and the consequences potentially are a lot worse in terms of what's it like to drive the number of people I've heard from recently who haven't test driven these things properly, and then complained afterwards about, oh, you know, the lane keep assyst is terrible and the banging, binging and banking and all that are giving me a migraine. Net literally have a woman complaining about migraine headaches. You have to go and test drive these things. I can tell you to beware. But at the end of the day, what you need to do is not go and just test drive a Chinese thing. Go and chest drive a Toyota and see what a good car feels like, and then look at the equivalent size, because it won't be the equivalent price the equivalent size, and then you'll have some idea of what it's about. But people have forgotten the old fashioned test drive because they live on the web all the time and they do the research.

You can buy. You can literally just buy a car, like just with your fingers. Yeah, you never actually go inside it. It's cross co selling cars, and like all of this sort of thing, they end up being like any other comity.

It's a commodity when it.

Comes to the emission standards, and yeah, the changes to those is that likely to have any real impact on the price of a car over the next couple of years.

Yes, prices will go up because there will be there will be brands. Let's talk about Isuzu. They don't have anything to offset. They have big heavy suv and pickup trucks that don't currently get under the threshold. They have to do something about getting under the threshold. The two things you can do well, three, change your model lineup. Go and buy credits off an ev company. So you could go to Tesla and buy some credits to offset, but that's going to increase your bottom line or pay the government penalty. And a fourth opportunity is to pack up and go home. Now there are some people that say some brands will either hugely change their model lineup to get rid of the heavier, more polluty type cars. This has been described by some people as a ute tax. In some ways it is a ute tax because they're the big sellers in Australia.

From a Senator Mikaalia Cash, Yeah, coming.

After your ute they are, and they are. But it's social engineering to admit a CO two target and that's what they're going to do. And if you think the problem is going to go away, it's not. And cars will cost more as a result.

Yeah, it's interesting. Because you're right, then what does that do to change driver behavior? It's going to be the thing that is the next It won't change anything, well, not in a country like ours, I think, because people buy them because they use them.

Yeah, that's right.

Joey from Tuwog is looking for a car. He said he's got thirty five grand to spend. Where would Paul recommend? Looking?

Well, how long is a piece of string? For thirty five grand? Most people are going to be looking at a mid sized suv in terms of having a good quality vehicle that's also not going to cost you the earth. Nissan make good SUVs that sort of price range, and so do the Koreans, Hyundai and Kia. I would just spend a Saturday walking around some show rooms, but start at Nis and go and have a look at Kia, and then just because you should, go and have a look at something Chinese and drive them all to understand what's going on. But there's a lot of really good quality vehicles now for under thirty five grand. Scoder is another brand I like, so Nis and Skoda and Hyundo and Care.

Do you feel the same way about the Coopers as you do about depul.

No Coopra is a proven brand. Dpart is a startup brand. It's you know, Coopra has been actually in Australia one form or another for more than ten years and it's part of the Volkswagen group and the stuff inside it is Volkswagen type stuff. Where does the depail stuff come from? One of the one of the new vehicle brands that's coming here is called Leap Motor. Leap Motor had not built a car five years ago, nothing, So they're a complete, you know, startup scratch thing. And yes, you can buy ahole a lot of technology, but you can't buy experience, and you can't buy reputation and you can't buy a quality.

Thank you as always for sharing your knowledge with us. Paul go over with me every Monday, and if there is a period of time during the week when something comes to mind, you can always still shoot them through to us. We'll hold on to those questions and till Paul is with us again next Monday. Drive safely, I will and.

We'll have another Grand Prix to talk about it. Yes, four BC's listen and win.

Two weeks go on for next week through the week after now at four BC it pays to listen, Paul Gover, especially if there's twenty thousand dollars to be one from next week. We need you to listen carefully to Breakfast mornings, afternoons and Drive. We'll ask you one question about something that we've shared on the show, and to make it easy, it could be either answer A or B. So then you listen for the que to call. Get it right and five hundred bucks is yours. If you get it wrong, that money will jackpot twenty thousand dollars up for grabs four BC's Listen and Win It will start next week on Brisbane's four BC. Yeah, Joseph, just on the subject of truck drivers and railbridge collisions. He says Peter at Breakfast was saying that truck drivers now have mainly automatic licenses. Was exactly what was backed up with what Paul was sharing there. Joseph, he says, has the scrutiny for truck driving become more relaxed. I don't know the answer to that question, but you have to say, I guess the whole process needs a little scrutiny. I mentioned earlier that after the two o'clock news headlines, we're turning our attention to what happened yesterday, which was World Elder Abuse Awareness Day, and just because it happened on a Sunday, it doesn't mean that we shouldn't spend a moment to talk about it, to once again use that day as an opportunity to raise awareness about elder abuse and encourage our communities to recognize that we do have an issue and that we are required each and every one of us to take action and be aware of what is happening in the community and stand against any form of abuse. In this case, the focus is elder abuse, mistreatment, the neglect of older people, and I've got to say the statistics again remain quite sobering. So that's the conversation that we will get into after the two o'clock news headlines, and of course, as always, you are welcome to join me in the conversation giving us a call on one double three eight eighty two or a text to zero four double nine eight eighty eight eighty two. News next coming up this hour for you. On afternoons. I mentioned that yesterday was World Elder Abuse Awareness Day. Sue Leach is the co chair of the Elder Abuse Action Australia Group and she's joining us shortly. Carlo Minyaska will be with us this hour. In entertainment news, they've had their nominations for the sixty fifth Logi Awards released and Hamish Blake, host of Lego Masters, is scared of his competition. We'll find out why. I'll give away a double pass this hour as well to go along and see the Broncos and Sharks this weekend before I.

Leave you at three and now on four BC and network stations across Australia afternoons with Sophy.

For Micah just before we get into our conversation with Sue, and I think to a degree it sort of fits to be talking about this now when we broadly talk of the vulnerability that we have as we get a little older in the community. And yesterday I learnt of an issue that happened to a listener outside of Churmside Hospital. And basically this person was sitting in the car waiting for their husband at the hospital inside the vehicle and a young person came up, opened the door, threatened her and asked for her handbag, which she handed over and he took off and police were obviously called. And the reason for bringing this up is twofold one. I think we've well and truly now understood that we live in different times and sitting in your car alone you become a target, particularly if people watch that A. You're waiting, B you're someone who may not be able to physically defend yourself and see you may be distracted. So if you are in that sort of a situation, do be reminded and remember for your own safety. Even in those moments where you think you're perfectly fine and you're in an area in the middle of broad daylight where you assume that there is some level of I guess assumed safety, that you are all vulnerable to those sorts of random attacks. So keep your cars locked, door locked, if you're sitting inside, maybe with the air conditioning on or the window down a little. Obviously be smart about it, but be aware that this is happening in the community. I've actually reached out to QPS to see whether or not this is something that is happening more often, and maybe if you would like to share your story with me. If you know of similar incidents, you can let me know on one double three eight eighty two. But just a reminder from all from our listener who wanted me to be able to pass that on to you today, so that we just have a bit of a heightened awareness. If you're sitting in a vehicle and you're on your own, you don't want to be a target for somebody who would find that as an opportunity to be able to steal something from you. And in this case, the wallet's gone, the money that was in at all of the cards. And also I think that feeling of now insecurity and vulnerability.

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I mentioned that yesterday was World Elder Abuse Awareness Day and this is a reminder for us that it's a growing issue. And I think the statistic with this is again a sad indictment, elder abuse affecting a one in six older Australians. And this sort of abuse can take on many forms. It's not just physical, it can be emotional abuse, financial abuse, psychological abuse. The most recent data showing nearly fifteen percent of Australians aged over sixty five have experienced some form of abuse in the past year alone. That's hundreds of thousands of people. Often this abuse comes from someone they know. Sadly it's a friend, a family member, even an adult child. So to help us understand what's being done, what needs to happen, what we need to be aware of, and where we turn for help. Sue Leach is joining us the co chair of Elder Abuse Action Australia. Sheares a long background when it comes to health and aging policy, deeply passionate about the mental health impacts of agism and how we can improve the lives of older Australians. Sue, thanks for joining us on Afternoons. Thank you very much, having me absolute pleasure. So let's go back to those statistics that I just shared about how widespread elder abuse is in our community and why we're seeing those numbers increase.

Well, unfortunately, it is, as you said, a very sad indictment on the situation that we have in Australia at the moment, and one in six is a very high figure. Unfortunately. Also it's important to realize that that is invariably someone that that older person knows and trust, which makes it one of our wicked problems that we have in society atland. And thank you for pointing out the different types of abuse.

I think we've still got a long.

Way to go about raising awareness in the community about it. With those of figures, it's highly likely that you potentially will know someone that is affected by elder abuse or a family that is involved with this. Unfortunately, which is a bit of an issue what's been done about it. We are in the process at the moment of being in between national plans. So there was before a National Plan against for the prevention of abusive I mistreatment of older people. We're in a bit of a hiatus at the moment in that there's been a range of consultations to prepare for.

The next plan.

It's currently sitting with the councils of the Attorney Generals. But this sort of part of the issue with that is subject to election cycles across the country and I think Tasmania Strowness Binarians and Works just recently and that they're going.

Back to the polls.

So we're really hoping that we will get sign off of on the next national plan soon. But more importantly is we need we need the services to be funded appropriately to be able to support the next plan so that we can take steps to try and reduce this this dread call statistic that we've currently got in the country.

You know, you mentioned the plan and you've been a part of shaping that national policy now for a number of years. It's one thing to have a plan, but it's another thing to make sure that the people who need the plan know that it's there and what the plan is.

Yes, yes, and look at the moment. One of the things that we are deeply concerned, I know a number of people in the sector are concerned, is that it's a bit of a post co lottery about access to services. And with the sort of data that we've got, you know that one in six Australians are experience older Australians are experiencing it.

We really need.

Equitbal access to services across the country, and particularly services that are equipped to be able to handle some of the nuances like you know, cultural nuances, particular services through Indigenous Australians and First Nations people, and also particular services that are aware of cultural issues that are in people from from different cultural backgrounds that we have limits in Australia as well.

Well.

What can we look for when you say that you know this just the statistic means that you know, it might be a neighbor, it might be in your own family, and you just don't know what it is that you need to be looking for, or maybe you intuitively suspect that something is off, but what do you suggest that people be aware of in that way, So some of the.

Scients to look out for. If there's been someone in your communities that you may not have seen for a while, so they're been a little bit more socially isolated. That may be because that they're not getting their supports to be able to get out in the community. So one of the one of the things that we see is that a person that is abused generally may be experiencing.

A sort of imposed.

Isolation, if you like, so that they're more withdrawn from general community, so you might not see them at the social groups as much as you have previously, like the Bowls club.

We feel that people that are.

In close contact with older people more regularly, such as hairdressers, the local GP practice for local pharmacy, may be the people that might pick up on these sorts of signs more frequently. Use of key cards with that yes, there may have been consent to be able to use mum or Dad's or grandma's key cards, but that may be without their consent, so there's a range of different things. Also looking out of course for unfortunately physical signs of abuse, so unusual bruising. I know that that can happen with older people through a range of medical conditions. But you know, if you're seeing something, you know, if you can get a private moment with that person to just check in and see if they're okay, I think it's worthwhile. One of the large areas of abuse that sometimes we don't get a lot of focus on is just a suite issue of neglect. Are people getting food and meditation, and that can be if someone's in a caring role is actually targeting an older person, that might be some of the things that are starting to happen. You know, they're not getting access to food and medication and access to services. So I think everyone in the community has a role to play, but also it's a matter of being respectful of what that older person's wishes are.

We often hear that.

Older people just want the abuse to stop, and this is where it's a more challenging situation because they don't necessarily want to ruin that relationship someone within the family, so it does take a bit of nuance. There are specialist services out there. There's a lot of also gateway services to put you in contact with them or specialist service, so it's worth, you know, finding out where that information is and I would recommend that people could go and have a look at the Compass website. So Compass dot info has a lot of really good information on a whole range of issues surrounding a group.

You yeah, I think it's the tricky part though, of Sue. As you said, the person who may be actually suffering the abuse a doesn't want to do something to ruin that relationship, just wants it to end. Isn't normally in the position of power to be able to access those services or step forward, which is where it comes back to that broader circle, the rest of the community, the partner of the person who might be, you know, realizing that this relationship has turned to a place where it could be perceived as being abusive from somebody from the outside looking in. Because we all know that there are stresses, there's housing stress, there's financial pressure, there's isolation, as you've already said, that plays such a role in this particularly for those who might be in that rural regional area. And there's a conference that happens every year and it seems to also be growing, like the numbers of people who need to access these services. I imagine that's a place where people who work within this space come together to be able to share what is working best, to be able to identify where abuse might be happening. At a time when we know we have an increase in our older population, we've got housing crisis that means that maybe there are now more and more opportunities for multiple generations to be living together. So all of a sudden, there's the added complexity of this. I imagine that's why a conference like the Australian Elder Abuse Conference is important.

Yes, yes, and look we'll be gathering next year actually the Gold Coast. To continue to have this sort of public succession with researchs, academics, yeah, the legal community, I think, and government importantly. It's a really good opportunity to come together and try and work out ways that we can tackle this issue. I'm glad you brought out the housing classis because that does put financial strength on people and we One of the terms that we here used is inheritance, in patience, and with a house in crisis, we find that, you know, there is quite often a lot more pressure on adult children wanting to move back in with either mum or dad.

Or see them transition out, so it might liquefy a little bit of the capital in the house.

Yeah.

Yeah, So I think it's important for older people, if they're faced in they've got those sorts of requests coming into them from family, to try and get some independent advice and that might be through a specialist service that that is more aware of some of the nuances of you know, what you might need to do, and there is opportunity to put in our family agreements where there's protection of rome putting play.

Look, it's complex, but it's important that it's a conversation that's had. I think as a community it means we can all be just a little more aware of what might be going on with our friends, with our neighbors, and within our families. You've already mentioned Compass as one source. That's Compass dot Info. We're sending people though to websites, and they may be the very people who don't have access to a website. There's your website which is e triple A, dot org dot AU and there are numbers that people can call as well. I think probably the best advice this afternoon is if you'd like us to be able to help you link up with those services. It's something that we can do here at four BC and the number is easier to remember and they hear it all the time one double three eight eighty two. And if there's any issue that you would like us to help you to connect with those services, we can either give you those websites or give you a number that you can call to speak to somebody who would be best placed to be able to talk you through your current situation or someone that you may know South. Thank you for your time, Thank.

You for and raising this a very important issue.

Pleasure that Sue Leach joining us this afternoon, the co chair of Elder Abuse Action Australia. After the break, a little news from around the world and we'll check in with Gary Hartgrave.

Now things that matter around the world.

Well, we know the conflict in the Middle East escalates. Many Australians are stranded in the region. The Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade is facing sharp criticism for its handling of personal information for Australians who are trying to escape the process has been labeled Shambalic after a critical error in online correspondence. Australians in Israel were reportedly emailed an incorrect link for them to upload personal information to be put on an evacuation register list. Instead of being directed to the proper registration page, they were sent instead to the Department of Home Affairs translation and interpreting service that's intended for people with limited English. Meanwhile, we know Israel's David Adom has said that three people were killed seventy four wounded lot following the latest missile attack. Two women and a man are believed to have been killed, without giving a price, like precise location, but adding rescue operations were ongoing in two places. Over in Egypt, and a group of Italian researchers are reigniting claims of the vast prehistrotic prehistoric city that's buried beneath the Pyramids of Geezer. By using ground penetrating radar signals, they claim to have exposed an extensive network of chambers and halls stretching two kilometers below the site. Researchers claim their software has made this solid granite more transparent than glass, and that they hope these findings and the photos are not just theories. However, these extraordinary claims face strong criticism and skepticism from mainstream egyptology. The researchers have yet to release the latest findings, which is crucial for scientification legitimization. Their original twenty twenty two study was criticized for the lack of methodology, so one can only wonder what might still beneath the secret of the pyramids. Finally, tourists getting a bad rap, and sometimes it's deserved. So two tourists, a pair of tourists you could say, have been caught on CCTV damaging the van Go chair. It's covered in crystals and it's at the Palazzo Mayaff Museum in Verona, Italy. So this incident occurred when a male tourist was attempting to sort of hover over this delicate chair for a photograph, but instead he lost his balance and his big butt ended up on the chair and it broke. His female companion was trying to take a photo during this time, and the CCTV footage has now been released strongly condemning the tourists and their disrespectful behavior. They were waiting for the security guide to leave so that they could take this photo. There was absolute disregard, clearly for the rules respecting art and cultural heritage. So the museum has announced they were able to repair the chair. They have once again used this as an opportunity to raise awareness for the value of art and the respect it deserves. Police, security and restorers for their efforts and it's currently unclear what the cost of the chair repair was, but likely that the individuals involved will have to pay for it.

And now time to find out what's coming up on four BC Drive.

Good afternoon, Gary Hargrave. Have you ever sat in the wrong chair?

Well, I was in a marginal seat. I was looking for a safe seat and never managed to find one.

No, I'm fine.

Yeah, I don't know what people are thinking.

I went to a party like that once, but it was the seventies.

This guy, this guy did not have the leg strength to hold himself in a semi squat to have the photograph taken. His wife or partner did it.

Never used a European toilet, well, yeah, she.

Had the legs, he did not. And the whole thing just toppled over underneath him. Silly silly stuff.

What's on the show today, Transport Minister Brent mickelbergle us this afternoon. Are we going to talk about a few things, everything from EA scooter inquiries into well, I don't know, go to the odd view about a couple of things. So we'll see what the Minister has to say. We're looking forward to talking to this Roads and trucks. I'm actually frankly fed up with the truck drivers being blamed for the bad infrastructure we've got around Southeast Queen's name. Trucks colliding with rail bridges, I get it. And so the latest thing now is to blame GPS technology being out of whack. But we don't have enough truck drivers. And the trouble is that a lot of our road and rail interfaces.

All out of whack.

It's too low, The rail bridges are too low. Also, the quality of our roads falling apart carrying more heavy loads than they were ever designed for. This is what's led to the potholes and the problems we've got all over Southeast Queens And then we'll get into all of that. Tomorrow marks two weeks until the end of the early mark for Olympics twenty thirty two, and it was always the first of July twenty twenty five was the reckoning date. For those involved in all of this. They told me a year or two ago marketing your calendar I have, so I can say two weeks tomorrow is the end of the early mark. And all this discussion about no build.

No plan, no nothing.

Opter stadium in Birth took ten years. We're seven. We're seven to the Olympics, so it'll be fine. I'm gonna host in my backyard. I think McGregor High school's football field could could be remodeled. We'll see what happens. Visiting Western Queensland. We'll talk to one of the great characters. It's not just the beautiful vistas and the opportunities to see things that you might not see. Although I must say over the weekend I can't believe how many kangaroos are now jumping into outer suburbs, just dropping in and around. I was out through Baronia Heights the other day and three kangaroos.

John we had our grad we had our first and at our place a wallaby. Don't think it was a kangaroo.

Well, I don't know.

These things look bigger than Wallaby, but either way it doesn't matter. These things are the time they hop and the fact that they're in suburbia means what's thing? Are we killing off their habitats? So just a question I asked, but that's just the thought. But visiting Western coins and for the characters, we're going to talk to one of the real characters. How we'll get into Israel and Iran what is happening there and the Department of Foreign Affairs. They're being criticized by people in Israel that they've kind of stuffed it up. There's a link technology link that's broken. My only comment on that is that this thing's not new, that there was this conflict coming. I don't know why you would actually fly to Israel as a tourist leading up to what's been occurring. But it's not the Israeli's fault that this is occurring. It is, in fact, the world's fault, and we should hold our head in shame. We've allowed Iran to be just so bad for so long, for decades, we've allowed them to institutionalize oppression of women of gay people, and something was going to give, and it has right now, So we're going to.

Get into that this afternoon too.

Thanks Gary. He'll be taking care of you this afternoon, as I bid you farewell in about half an hour and he will take care of you for drive. You know, I only just half an hour ago told you about somebody sitting in their car and having their handbag stolen by someone. Now there's this other issue that we've has been brought to our attention up on the Sunshine Coast, and I wanted to share this with you, and I hope it doesn't become a theme. A baby has been left injured. Someone on an e bike sprayed a fire extinguisher into a car on the Sunshine Coast. This happened last night at about seven forty five. The vehicle was stopped at a traffic light in Sippy Downs and this e rider or the e bike rider pulled up, pulled out an extinguisher and then used it and sprayed it through the open window and then took off. The car filled with white powder instantly. The issue here was that there was a five month old in the back of the car and the infant has ended up in hospital needing a sealine solution flushed into her eyes. Her mum said it was a horrible experience. The baby was screaming in pain. Little Pixie is now home, but she still has swelling red skin and a wheeze. The powder also destroyed the car's interior, including her pram toys and a car seat. Police are now investigating because they believe this could be linked to another incident that happened the night before, when two kids on EA scooters sprayed a fire extinguisher into a local Indian restaurant, forcing it to have to shut down temporarily. So sharing this with you is twofold one be aware too. Anyone with any information on this is urged to contact police. I'm sure that whoever is responsible for this thinks it's just hilarious. They need to know that it has consequences and hopefully they also receive some in the process.

On four BC Afternoons, this you See Entertainment.

Porter lighten things up before we farewell you today, join now by our four BC Entertainment and Lifestyle reporter Carla Binyaska.

Good afternoon, Good afternoon to you.

So I let the listeners know that you weren't you're fighting off the lurgie, but you're here with us hey feeling.

I am, I'm okay, I'm all right, good getting through it good.

Plenty going on in the world of entertainment after the weekend and the fact that it's Father's Day now do you speak.

Indeed, and plenty of stars have taken to Instagram and Twitter and TikTok and whatever to pay tribute to their dads and the men in their lives, including Rumor Willis, who of course is one of three girls of Bruce Willis with his ex wife Demi Moore, that very very touching tribute to her dad, who of course had to give up acting and revealed that he's battling dementia aphasia and also fronto temple dementia back in twenty twenty three. And you know, she's basically just said that she has this longing and heartache to be able to speak with her dad and that she wishes that she had, you know, spent more time getting him to tell stories and things with her dad. But you know, she has the gratitude to be able to still hug and kiss him even though you know he's not well, and that she also noted that he lights up whenever she brings her two year old to see, to see him and spend time with him, so that is lovely. Of course. He also has two young children of his own with his current wife Emma, who often updates, yeah, asks about his condition and how he's doing. But yeah, an update, heartbreaking, a sad update, but sort of sad and happy, I guess at the same time. Meanwhile, my favorite Mega Markle has taken to Instagram, not a rare posting, because she seems to be mining her family treasure trove there to pay tribute to the dad in her life, well, her husband, Prince Harry, she calls him h It's basically a two minute reel that's been very carefully curated and Instagram filtered of Harry sharing some very sweet and tender moments with their two Childrenchie and Lily Bet. But it's all for a reason, guys. You know, it's not because she I'm sure she does love him and her children, but it's because she's got a new Netflix something coming out and jammed that she needs to push over at the supermarkets in the US. And it's very you know, easy, I guess to be cynical about this, but everything is done, so it's done. It's very curated, and it's done in a way that just does not spark any sense of genuine or like any form of like love out of it. To me, she's just trying to make a buck. That's my take. That's my hot take on it. But she has posted the best Happy Father's Day to her favorite guy and then she's put it to a Jason Morans song and you can go and check it out if you want to or not, and just get on with your life fair enough.

Oprah Winfrey has talked about why she never had kids. Yeah, and this feels like it's like, like, why is this coming back again as a story.

It's funny. I thought exactly the same thing. I didn't know that it was, you know, a huge issue. I just thought, you know, she was a crew woman, never let her the time past or whatever, and she just was never interested. But she's revealed that it actually it.

Was the fault.

Fault is not the right word, but it was because of her influence of her relationship with Barbara Walters. Now, of course Barbara Walters, very famous journalist in the US. She says that in an interview with Barbara Walters, Oprah Winfrey said that she chose not to have it because of the strained relationship that Barbara had with her adopted daughter, Jacqueline, and that motherhood. You know, Barbara had said that motherhood was the most fulfilling thing, but then she felt really differently. Oprah felt really differently having observed her relationship with Barbara's daughter and that it was complex and strained, and that definitely put a full stop into any conversation that Oprah ever wanted to have with her family or having a family.

Rather, was Barbara Walters's daughter adopted?

Yeah, she has adopted. It was the only daughter that she had even had. But all of this has been revealed of course, that Barbara Walters has a new documentary coming out next week. It's on Hulu and it's called Barbara Walters Tell Me Everything. It's got all these behind the scenes and.

Who's releasing that?

So Hulu it would be out of that.

But why they released that about.

Her because she passed away years ago, right, So it's it's and it's this never seen before footage is right. Stuff with the Kardashians, Taylor Swift, Donald Trump. There's some telling stuff in there about him and he's but let me have a listen to the trailer.

She asked the question that nobody else had asked.

I know you don't want to talk about guys, and I won't push it, but how are you going to find anybody?

You don't really act, you don't sing, you don't.

Dance, you don't have any to give me any talent, and asked in a way that always hit a nerve, why the.

Tears now.

Has been I was never beautiful.

If I had been a dog, I mean, maybe they wouldn't have put me on television, But I mean nobody ever put me on because I was beautiful and glamorous.

She was fearless and sometimes she got under people's skin.

Ever do drugs in front of your child?

My god, she could talk to anyone.

Why didn't you have your nose fixed about anything?

Are you bisexual?

She had a vision and that celebrities are news, and she turned out to be right. There were newsmakers never.

Say I made mistakes.

I make mistakes, and we don't think.

Of show any humility. It's going to be explosive.

Look, I'll watch it because I loved her and I was living there during the time that she was doing some of those really great interviews and she did. I think it was also that because she had reached a point where everyone knew who she was, she had level of respect, so she could ask what she wanted because people knew what they were going to get if they sat in front of her.

Correct.

I'm a little bit confused as to why now, like three years after she's passed on, have they decided now is the time to release this movie.

Well, the interesting thing is that documentary they're using archival footage right, and they're also so she at some point she's also sat down in front of the camera to address some of the issues. So it's obviously someone within her camp that has decided that they want to do it and do it now, and they've obviously spent a lot of time curating and doing it themselves.

So we'll only be able to watch it if you have access to Hulu.

Hulu.

Correct. I did some digging around to see whether or not we could see it in Australia and it turns out if you, I think you need a VPN. So you need like an American site and a VPN to access it if you want to get onto Hulu. But no word as to whether it'll be made you.

Know, it will, it will reckon, it will somehow or another.

It's amazing.

Closer to home and what we can watch will be the Logi Awards, and the nominations are out today.

Yes, they will be airing live at the Star in Sydney on August three. Congratulations everyone in the nine family. We have twenty three nominations and as well as everything from sports coverage to TV drama to act to actress. You've gotten your name it but obviously the most coverted one is the Gold Logi and it's a bit of a mixed bag vying for the top spot. It's nearly all all female nominations list for the Gold for the Gold Logi, So Lynn Granger and Lyn McGranger. Sorry who left home in a way she's nominated a Master Chef contestant turned host, Poe Lingo, She's there. Both first time nominees in the category. Ali Langdon is on the list, Lisa Miller's on the list, Julia Morrison, Ya Krueger. They're back for a crack at the title, as well as Hamish Blake, who is the only male in contention for the Knight's Top Prize and he has mixed feelings about this nomination. This is what the Lego Master's host had to say about it.

It feels like a most cher because I'm just gonna put on the record I never should never has someone, never should someone win it less than I should win it this year. I think, in this climate, this day and age, the only guy I geting able to win is the last thing anyone wants to see. So very happy to be nominated one of a bunch of ladies. I'm with my god, it would be just a disaster if.

I want it.

He's not wrong, isn't it. It's not wrong, isn't he?

What?

So voting is now open, of course, if you want to vote for who you think deserves the Gold LOGI or any of the other nominations, you can vote.

Do you think they're still relevant you? It's a thing, right.

I've got a cousin who buys TV week religiously, and I ask why, and they saig just because they've always done it. And I said, but do you really care? She's like, yeah, I enjoy like voting for it. But you're right. But it's like any one of these industry awards.

It's like it's just we do know how to celebrate ourselves in media.

Don't exactly.

You've got some news hot off the press for us about one of our favored sporting stars who's just had another bub.

I know if switch is owned. Ash Barty has welcomed the birth of her second child, her daughter, Jordan, has been She's given birth to her second daughter, well, the first one, her son, was born in twenty twenty three, Hayden, Hayden, And it took me a while to realize that she was pregnant with her second because it feels.

Like, yeah, and everybody else's pregnancies go really quickly, Carla, haven't you noticed?

I know, But it's so cute. She's she's put on a little jumpsuit or onesie and it says, embrace you're weird, which must say something about Ash and her family and what they want to put out the world. But yeah, welcome to the world. Jordan. You are loved unconditionally and we're so grateful to have you in our arms. Cut just girl, cute. That's exciting. Yes, Like I have a son the same age as her, for pretty much the same age as Ashes first. Can you imagine, I know, I can why people go around again for a second time. It's beyond me.

It is because it's joyful, that is it though as I battle a daycare sickness, is it yeah, yeah, no, it's it's one that's wonderful for her and for the congratul good stuff.

Thank you very much, Carla. We will check in with you again next Monday. You go and have a cup of tea.

Thank you.

Yeah, you know what that means. The whistle has blown. The Broncos are playing the Sharks this Sunday at Suncorp Stadium and I have a double pass to give you to be there. All you need is to have a Ticketech account so that you can redeem these tickets. And if you'd like to be at that game and you have a Ticketech account, give us a call now on the competition line one three hundred triple four eight eighty two. You might be their good luck charm. This weekend kickoff is two, so it's a nice afternoon game hopefully in the Sunshine four. BC is a proud partner of the Brisbane Broncos. Congratulations goes out to our listener Liz from Salisbury, who is off to see the Broncos this weekend when they take on the Sharks at Suncorp Stadium. As I said this Sunday two pm. I'm sure that there are still some tickets hanging around if you'd like to take the family. Just a couple of stories. I'd like to leave you with this afternoon one. You may be hearing first, because it's just in the last hour that we've heard that Leonard law Now he's the eldest son of S Day Lorder, and I know that everyone listening knows S Day Louder. And I'm sure you've used the cosmetics or one of their sister brands over time. So Leonard Lauder was the eldest son of S. Day Lauder and Joseph Louder, and he has died at age ninety two. A statement has been released by the company. He was the chairman emeritus and also the former chief executive officer. He passed away surrounded by family and friends. Born in nineteen thirty three in New York, studied at Columbia's University Graduate School of Business and served as a lieutenant as well in the army. But the reason I'm telling you about him is that he was largely accredited with transforming the brand and building it into the absolute behemoth that it is now being a multi brand global leader in prestige beauty. Serving as the president of the company in the seventies from seventy two through to ninety five, CEO from eighty two to ninety nine, chairman from ninety five through to two thousand and nine, launched a bunch of the brands under the ESDA Lorda umbrella, including Aramis and Clinique and Lab Series, and until his death he remained very much involved in the company's acquisition of other brands including Evader, Bobby Brown Cosmetics, Joe Malone, London all the perfumes there, Lemur which is the really expensive one that select few can afford to use, and also Mac widely known as the makeup artist company with all of the makeup that they now sell across the globe. So he, as I said, largely credited with growing the business to where it is now, has passed away aged ninety two, and here is a last random but interesting story that I wanted you to hear.

Here.

First, a genetically modified tomato it's the color of an eggplant, could soon be available on supermarket shelves as early as next year if regulators in Australia give it the thumbs up. It isn't your average tom and we've been talking about tomatoes because prices were up, supply was down, we had issues with the weather. This is a purple tomato genetically modified to include genes from the edible snap dragon flower. It's also been engineered to contain high levels of all the good powerful antioxidants that are inside blueberries and blackberries. Was developed by a US based company called Norfolk Healthy Produce. Creators say it's a super tomato, can offer a range of benefits, boost longer shelf lives, slower to develop any mold, even have the potential to have increased health outcomes because of all of those photo nutrients O mentioned. It's a purple tomato that's received the green light for human consumption and sale in the US and is proving popular and now is being reviewed for Australian consumption and if it's approved, it'll be grown in the greenhouses here in Southeast Queensland and then they'll roll it out other places. I have seen a photograph of said purple tomato on a plate. It looks absolutely beautiful, like when you talk about rainbow on a plate and you see this cut. You know how you can buy those punnets now with like all the different colored tomatoes in them, and it's like the light green ones and the yellow ones and the orange ones and then the deep red ones. Well, this is a purple one. That's a really beautiful deep purple, like a berry berry purple. So I don't know about you, guys, I reckon I'd probably give it a shot. It doesn't say anything about how it tastes in this whole thing. I'm assuming it tastes like a tomato. Maybe it tastes like a cross between a tomato and a berry. That would also be very exciting for a salad. So we'll see whether or not it gets the thumbs up from the regulators here and we find purple tomatoes coming to a shelf near you. Thank you for spending a little of your Monday with me today. Don't forget. You can always shoot us through an email to afternoons at four BC dot com dot au if you have ideas of things you'd like us to cover on afternoons. We often go down the road of doing some things a little bit different tomorrow.

It will be no.

Different to that, that's for sure. And I've reached out today Leslie. A few of you did send me a text through to give me a thumbs up on that. We'll see if he's available, if not, tomorrow Wednesday to just revisit that conversation again about the brain development and how it's impacted, particularly for young brains when it comes to the use of technology. For now, though my time is up. As always, I do thank you for yours