Jonathan Fairbairn (standing in for Relebogile Mabotja) speaks to Penwell Lunga from the South African Furniture Initiative(SAFI) about the impact of illicit trade in the furniture industry, followed by the Social Media Marketer for the Shesha Board Game, Lungs Ndaba about the local South African board game they created called ‘Shesha’. The Founder of Virgin Creatives, Thabo Modau joins Jonathan to speak about his business which manufactures water wheelbarrows.