Former Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull joins the show to discuss how Australia should approach the second Trump presidency.

Malcolm Turnbull, Australia’s 29th Prime Minister, joins Dr Emma Shortis to discuss why sucking up to Trump will get Australian leaders nowhere and how the AUKUS “shocker” is making Australia more dependent on the United States, right at the time America is becoming less dependable.

This discussion was recorded on Friday 8 November 2024 US time and things may have changed since recording.

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Guest: Malcolm Turnbull, 29th Prime Minister of Australia // @TurnbullMalcolm

Host: Emma Shortis, Director of International & Security Affairs, the Australia Institute // @EmmaShortis

Show notes:

‘The Bad Guys: How to Deal with our Illiberal Friends’, Australian Foreign Affairs (October 2022)

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Former Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull joins the show to discuss how Australia should approach the second Trump presidency.
Malcolm Turnbull, Australia’s 29th Prime Minister, joins Dr Emma Shortis to discuss why sucking up to Trump will get Australian leaders nowhere and how the AUKUS “shocker” is making Australia more dependent on the United States, right at the time America is becoming less dependable.
This discussion was recorded on Friday 8 November 2024 US time and things may have changed since recording.
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Guest: Malcolm Turnbull, 29th Prime Minister of Australia // <a href="https://x.com/TurnbullMalcolm">@TurnbullMalcolm</a>
Host: Emma Shortis, Director of International &amp; Security Affairs, the Australia Institute // <a href="https://x.com/EmmaShortis">@EmmaShortis</a>
Show notes:
<a href="https://www.australianforeignaffairs.com/">‘The Bad Guys: How to Deal with our Illiberal Friends’</a>, Australian Foreign Affairs (October 2022)
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America faces a big choice this November. But whoever wins the presidency, the United States we thought we knew is gone – and it isn’t coming back. In this new Australia Institute podcast, Dr Emma Shortis asks what this means for the rest of us, and how Australia can help shape our rapidly changing world for the better.

America faces a big choice this November. But whoever wins the presidency, the United States we thought we knew is gone – and it isn’t coming back. In this new Australia Institute podcast, Dr Emma Shortis asks what this means for the rest of us, and how Australia can help shape our rapidly changing world for the better.

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Former Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull joins the show to discuss how Australia should approach the second Trump presidency.

Standing up to Trump with Malcolm Turnbull

With this presidential race now over, Emma reflects on an extraordinary campaign and the challenges that may lie ahead for Australia.

In the last of our daily election episodes of After America, Dr Emma Shortis reflects on the glass ceiling in American politics, the Democrats’ failure to address their own shortcomings over the last three decades, and why the Australian Government doesn’t need to just cop whatever challenges the next US administration throws at it.

This discussion was recorded on Thursday 7 November 2024 US time and things may have changed since recording.

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Host: Emma Shortis, Director of International & Security Affairs, the Australia Institute // @EmmaShortis

 Show notes:

Thick: And Other Essays by Tressie McMillan Cottom (January 2019)

‘Kidnapping, assassination and a London shoot-out: Inside the CIA's secret war plans against WikiLeaks’, Yahoo! News (September 2021) 

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With this presidential race now over, Emma reflects on an extraordinary campaign and the challenges that may lie ahead for Australia.
In the last of our daily election episodes of After America, Dr Emma Shortis reflects on the glass ceiling in American politics, the Democrats’ failure to address their own shortcomings over the last three decades, and why the Australian Government doesn’t need to just cop whatever challenges the next US administration throws at it.
This discussion was recorded on Thursday 7 November 2024 US time and things may have changed since recording.
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Host: Emma Shortis, Director of International &amp; Security Affairs, the Australia Institute // <a href="https://x.com/EmmaShortis">@EmmaShortis</a>
 Show notes:
<a href="https://tressiemc.com/writing/thick-and-other-essays/">Thick: And Other Essays</a> by Tressie McMillan Cottom (January 2019)
<a href="https://www.yahoo.com/news/kidnapping-assassination-and-a-london-shoot-out-inside-the-ci-as-secret-war-plans-against-wiki-leaks-090057786.html">‘Kidnapping, assassination and a London shoot-out: Inside the CIA's secret war plans against WikiLeaks’</a>, Yahoo! News (September 2021) 
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With this presidential race now over, Emma reflects on an extraordinary campaign and the challenges that may lie ahead for Australia.

Fill the sky

Donald Trump will return to the White House – how should Australia prepare? 

On this episode of After America, Dr Emma Shortis and Alice Grundy discuss what the Trump victory means for American society and democratic institutions, the soul-searching facing the Democrats after a comprehensive defeat, and the implications for Australia.

This discussion was recorded on Wednesday 6 November 2024 and things may have changed since recording.

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Host: Emma Shortis, Director of International & Security Affairs, the Australia Institute // @EmmaShortis

Host: Alice Grundy, Research Manager, Anne Kantor Fellows, the Australia Institute // @alicekgt

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Donald Trump will return to the White House – how should Australia prepare? 
On this episode of After America, Dr Emma Shortis and Alice Grundy discuss what the Trump victory means for American society and democratic institutions, the soul-searching facing the Democrats after a comprehensive defeat, and the implications for Australia.
This discussion was recorded on Wednesday 6 November 2024 and things may have changed since recording.
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Host: Emma Shortis, Director of International &amp; Security Affairs, the Australia Institute // <a href="https://x.com/EmmaShortis">@EmmaShortis</a>
Host: Alice Grundy, Research Manager, Anne Kantor Fellows, the Australia Institute // <a href="https://x.com/alicektg">@alicekgt</a>
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Donald Trump will return to the White House – how should Australia prepare?

Four more years

Will Trump declare victory on election night, regardless of the result?

On the final pre-election episode of After America, Matthew Bevan and Dr Emma Shortis reflect on an enormous Harris rally in Philadelphia, whether the polls have anything useful to tell us, and the dangers of a contested result.

This discussion was recorded on Monday 4 November 2024 and things may have changed since recording.

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Guest: Matthew Bevan, host and writer of If You’re Listening, the ABC // @MatthewBevan

Host: Emma Shortis, Director of International & Security Affairs, the Australia Institute // @EmmaShortis

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Will Trump declare victory on election night, regardless of the result?
On the final pre-election episode of After America, Matthew Bevan and Dr Emma Shortis reflect on an enormous Harris rally in Philadelphia, whether the polls have anything useful to tell us, and the dangers of a contested result.
This discussion was recorded on Monday 4 November 2024 and things may have changed since recording.
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Guest: Matthew Bevan, host and writer of If You’re Listening, the ABC // <a href="https://x.com/MatthewBevan">@MatthewBevan</a>
Host: Emma Shortis, Director of International &amp; Security Affairs, the Australia Institute // <a href="https://x.com/EmmaShortis">@EmmaShortis</a>
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Will Trump declare victory on election night, regardless of the result?

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