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January 6th & the midterms

Where Trump's money comes from

American perceptions of Trump & the midterms

Faced with an entirely new type of president, the Australian government insists on playing an old game by the old rules.

Dr Emma Shortis reflects on Trump’s “joke” about a third term in office at the White House Correspondents’ Dinner, before If You’re Listening host Matt Bevan returns to the show to discuss the midterms and Trump’s finances.

This episode was recorded Friday 24 July.

Pre-order More Fool Me: How the gas industry tricked Australia by Richard Denniss, the latest Vantage Point essay from Australia Institute Press. Use the code ‘FOOLME’ on a four-edition Vantage Point subscription to receive a free copy of Richard’s book, Econobabble.

Guest: Matt Bevan, journalist and host of If You’re Listening, Australian Broadcasting Corporation // @mattbevan

Host: Emma Shortis, Director, International & Security Affairs, the Australia Institute // @emmashortis

Show notes:

Where EXACTLY is Trump’s money coming from?, If You're Listening, ABC News (July 2026)

If You're Listening: Declassified by Matt Bevan, HarperCollins (May 2026)

After America: Australia and the new world order by Emma Shortis, Australia Institute Press (May 2025)

Theme music: Blue Dot Sessions

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Faced with an entirely new type of president, the Australian government insists on playing an old game by the old rules.
Dr Emma Shortis reflects on Trump&rsquo;s &ldquo;joke&rdquo; about a third term in office at the White House Correspondents&rsquo; Dinner, before If You&rsquo;re Listening host Matt Bevan returns to the show to discuss the midterms and Trump&rsquo;s finances.
This episode was recorded Friday 24 July.
Pre-order <a href="https://australiainstitute.org.au/store/more-fool-me-vantage-point-issue-6">More Fool Me: How the gas industry tricked Australia</a> by Richard Denniss, the latest Vantage Point essay from Australia Institute Press. Use the code &lsquo;FOOLME&rsquo; on <a href="https://australiainstitute.org.au/store/vantage-point-subscription">a four-edition Vantage Point subscription</a> to receive a free copy of Richard&rsquo;s book, Econobabble.
Guest: Matt Bevan, journalist and host of If You&rsquo;re Listening, Australian Broadcasting Corporation // <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/mattbevan.bsky.social">@mattbevan</a>
Host: Emma Shortis, Director, International &amp; Security Affairs, the Australia Institute // <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/emmashortis.bsky.social">@emmashortis</a>
Show notes:
<a href="https://youtu.be/p-s8kbK8jNY?si=vKPRgGPurEx9rUpD">Where EXACTLY is Trump&rsquo;s money coming from?</a>, If You're Listening, ABC News (July 2026)
<a href="https://harpercollins.com.au/products/9781460719220">If You're Listening: Declassified</a> by Matt Bevan, HarperCollins (May 2026)
<a href="https://australiainstitute.org.au/store/after-america-vantage-point-issue-1">After America: Australia and the new world order</a> by Emma Shortis, Australia Institute Press (May 2025)
Theme music: Blue Dot Sessions
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The United States we thought we knew is gone. And it isn’t coming back. 

Every week on After America, Dr Emma Shortis examines the second Trump presidency, its impact at home and abroad, and how Australia can help shape our rapidly changing world for the better. 

Presented by the Australia Institute.

The United States we thought we knew is gone. And it isn&rsquo;t coming back.&nbsp;
Every week on After America, Dr Emma Shortis examines the second Trump presidency, its impact at home and abroad, and how Australia can help shape our rapidly changing world for the better.&nbsp;
Presented by the Australia Institute.

After America

Faced with an entirely new type of president, the Australian government insists on playing an old game by the old rules.